Cannibijuana

[Akzle]

interesting... (http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21573135-americas-first-market-recreational-marijuana-will-be-far-free-tax-and-tax-again)
i wonder how long it is before the NZ monarchkey admit the inevitability and start insitagating/enforcing the taxation thereof.

[mashman]

"Hours later, eight former heads of the Drug Enforcement Administration, which has led America’s drug war for decades, expressed alarm that federal laws were not being enforced. One predicted that stoned drivers would leave roads “littered with fatalities”."

ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa... coz no stoners currently drive on the roads.

A step forwards.

[clonak]

With thier push for banning ciggarettes do you really think they will legalise or even decriminalise weed anytime soon. Despite new revenue from tax and saving on stupid court hearins and prison expenses, I doubt it will ever happen. Hell, even the greens have given up. :facepalm:

[Madness]

With thier push for banning ciggarettes do you really think they will legalise or even decriminalise weed anytime soon. Despite new revenue from tax and saving on stupid court hearins and prison expenses, I doubt it will ever happen. Hell, even the greens have given up. :facepalm:

Maybe you should smoke a J, it just might help with your atrocious spelling.

:doobey:

[Road kill]

Maybe you should smoke a J, it just might help with your atrocious spelling.

:doobey:

Hasn't did fuckall for mine.

Annnnnywaay,,haven't we done this one before,,like very resently kind of before.

Ahh harvest season right,,ok I get it now,,,as you were.

[blackdog]

I would quite like mine to be available in licorice allsort, and energy drink can forms thank you. It would eliminate the harm risk from inhaling hot tar (lung cancer/heart disease), so a winner from the healthcare perspective there too.

Hey Madness, you want a piece of this carrot cake?

[Madness]

Hey Madness, you want a piece of this carrot cake?

:motu: Homo.

[blackdog]

:motu: Homo.

That's how you are getting it with cream.

[Madness]

That's how you are getting it with cream.

Remind me to never eat anything at your house. Ever.

[scissorhands]

Things are moving quickly now.
And I've given up grog weed and coffee, go figure!!:wacko:

Both below news items from the last few days....

Auntie Helen has started making noises at the United Nations

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/130536/war-on-drugs-failing-helen-clark
Updated at 4:20 pm on 15 March 2013
The head of the United Nations Development Programme, Helen Clark, says there is increasing evidence that the war on drugs has failed, with criminalisation often creating more problems than it solves.

Speaking ahead of the presentation of the UNDP's 2013 Human Development Report, the former New Zealand Prime Minister said Latin American leaders in particular should be encouraged to develop different policies to tackle the drug scourge.

She said as a former health minister herself she had no doubt the health position would be to treat the issue of drugs as primarily a health and social issue rather than a criminalised issue.

In recent years, many Latin American governments have begun to openly challenge the 40-year orthodoxy of the US-led "war on drugs" that seeks to stamp out the cultivation and distribution of drugs such as marijuana and cocaine.






Copenhagen is going to dispense from pharmacies

http://cphpost.dk/national/life-after-cannabis-prohibition-city-announces-its-ambitions


Life after cannabis prohibition: The city announces its ambitions
March 15, 2013 - 22:53
The Copenhagen Model will see the production, sale and consumption of cannabis legalised, but many questions remain
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The conference was the latest attempt by mayor Frank Jensen (Socialdemokraterne), centre, to legalise cannabis in Copenhagen for a trial period (Photo: Peter Stanners)

The tide is turning against the criminalisation of cannabis. Portugal, the Netherlands and several US states have to varying degrees decriminalised its use and now Copenhagen has decided to join the movement with a three-year trial to decriminalise the drug.

But while city officials envisage Copenhagen undertaking the world’s most ambitious decriminalisation project – both the production and sale would be legalised – large questions remain about what shape the so-called 'Copenhagen Model' would actually take.

[blackdog]

Remind me to never eat anything at your house. Ever.

If the missus' dyke sister's been round I'd probably stay away from most of the salad items anyway.

[Madness]

the missus' dyke sister

See, there ya go again. Fucking holding out on yer mates.

[Berries]

The head of the United Nations Development Programme, Helen Clark, says there is increasing evidence that the war on drugs has failed, with criminalisation often creating more problems than it solves.
Ha ha. Rearrange these two words, shit and no. The war on drugs has failed? FFS, it could never and will never win. Legalise the lot and then deal with it openly.

[scissorhands]

yep and Dakta Green will feel somewhat vindicated I'm sure, especially as his 'model' of the cannabis club has taken off in the states. Seems like they are opening up all over. Was a lot of fun for me, great spirits amongst the punters, a bit like a great war ending. I miss the pool tables


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR-5Ih7Ic8M

[Akzle]

It would eliminate the harm risk from inhaling hot tar (lung cancer/heart disease), so a winner from the healthcare perspective there too.
vaouriser mann...


Ha ha. Rearrange these two words, shit and no. The war on drugs has failed? FFS, it could never and will never win. Legalise the lot and then deal with it openly.

yes, that.

but i've got a better idea: world government collapse.

[Bassmatt]

It would eliminate the harm risk from inhaling hot tar (lung cancer/heart disease), so a winner from the healthcare perspective there too.



Don't worry about that:
"The results of a new government-run research program are now forcing medical authorities to overturn these beliefs. The study has been ongoing for the past twenty years, following the smoking habits of over 5000 people. Researchers found that, contrary to popular belief, smoking cannabis, does not interfere with lung function or capacity. This holds true for ongoing regular -even including daily- and long term consumption. Curiously, as a general rule, cannabis smokers had better lung function than nonsmokers, which researchers attribute to the smoking action itself, rather than the cannabis. Pot smokers inhale deeply and hold those breaths to make the most of their supply, expanding the lung's capacity.

Dr. Tashkin found that, in almost all instances, cannabis consumers had rates of cancer that were no different from those who didn't smoke cannabis. The one exception to this rule was between cannabis smokers and individuals who didn't smoke anything (including tobacco), in which marijuana smokers actually had lower levels of lung cancer.

http://www.naturalnews.com/035980_cannabis_smokers_cancer.html#ixzz2NpVCaFR1
American Medical Association - http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1104848

[avgas]

I don't think that Cannabis is bad. Fucken stuff grows on the side of the road.
I have deadly nightshade in the overgrown front yard right now (next weeks mission). But you don't see me ripping it out to make a salad.

Let the stupid get wasted, hell help them along by turning all the taps on, plugging the sinks and turning on the power points for them. Then tell them all of this after you have given them a bag of free weed.

The really good ones will take a break and turn off the taps, or at least find the hardwired fusebox. Those are the ones we want - they will be good workers.

The rest will just fry.

[scissorhands]

True weed is anti cancer,antiviral, antihepatic and antifungal, but lung function DOES most definitely impair

How do I know? Just spend time around major daily users of the herb and listen to their smokers coughs and their smokers voice. Look at the tar on the roach and the by products of burnt plant material

Mitigation is best achieved by moderate to light use and [choosing to] smoke ultra strong buds. You need less of a strong substance, and consume less of the carrier... the plant material the desirable trichomes sit on.....

Same as pills or anything... tableting fillers are less, all things being equal, light cigarettes are probably more harmful than strong cigarettes

Cannabis coffee is the bomb. Simmer milk very lightly for 15min till weed crumbs look like grey overcooked cabbage, add to coffee, sip very slowly holding each sip swilling in mouth for 2min per sip, take 20min to drink a cup of cannacoffee, holding each sip

Caution: sublingual administration potentiates all substances so make a weak cup of coffee as the coffee will be 5x as as strong as compared to gulping it down and absorption via the stomach

Absorbing via the gums, lips and tongue is how I ingest my herbal remedies from the local naturopath. Good medicine

Adding weed tincture to fine sipping whiskeys..... mmmmmmm

Smoking is a cocktail of THC, carbon monoxide, dioxide and hundreds of other unwanted things.
Smoking is primitive

[steve_t]

True weed is anti cancer,antiviral, antihepatic and antifungal, but lung function DOES most definitely impair


Antihepatic??

[scissorhands]

Improves liver function, prolly got my words wrong or maybe not

[HenryDorsetCase]

cannabis: cannibal: very similar innit? A coincidence? I think not. I infer therefore that cannibis users are more likely to be cannibals. We as a society shouldnt tolerate cannibalism: it will put the supermarkets out of business. Therefore it must be banned!

[imdying]

Let the stupid get wasted.You mean the stupid like John Britten, right? I'm interested, what have you done with your straight life?

Anything of note?


Anything?

[HenryDorsetCase]

You mean the stupid like John Britten, right? I'm interested, what have you done with your straight life?

Anything of note?


Anything?

Oh come on: correlation is not causation, you know this.

[imdying]

Oh come on: correlation is not causation, you know this.

Isn't that the point? ;)

[Akzle]

i'm going to be unhappy if this ends up another fucking physics thread. keep it clean guys. keep it clean.


Don't worry about that:
"The results of a new government-run research program are now forcing medical authorities to overturn these beliefs.
and really, REALLY good for your eyes. true story.



Let the stupid get wasted, hell help them along by turning all the taps on, plugging the sinks and turning on the power points for them. Then tell them all of this after you have given them a bag of free weed.

The really good ones will take a break and turn off the taps, or at least find the hardwired fusebox. Those are the ones we want - they will be good workers.

The rest will just fry.
interesting theory. mindless and violent. you're an alcohol "user" right?

i'm all up for removing all rules surrounding all drugs. but that's off topic.

when you do get to handing out free weed, count me in, also, if you're inclined to wire power and running water to my place, go ahead.


T
How do I know? Just spend time around major daily users of the herb and listen to their smokers coughs and their smokers voice. Look at the tar on the roach and the by products of burnt plant material

Cannabis coffee is the bomb. Simmer milk very lightly for 15min till weed crumbs look like grey overcooked cabbage, add to coffee, sip very slowly holding each sip swilling in mouth for 2min per sip, take 20min to drink a cup of cannacoffee, holding each sip

Caution: sublingual administration potentiates all substances so make a weak cup of coffee as the coffee will be 5x as as strong as compared to gulping it down and absorption via the stomach

Absorbing via the gums, lips and tongue is how I ingest my herbal remedies from the local naturopath. Good medicine

Adding weed tincture to fine sipping whiskeys..... mmmmmmm

Smoking is a cocktail of THC, carbon monoxide, dioxide and hundreds of other unwanted things.
Smoking is primitive

nope. not at all. i've known "major daily users" of both tobacco, cannabis, and a few other smokables, who have not suffered any "smokers coughs and smoker's voice" infact, if you didn't know they smoked, you wouldn't.

the "tar" is resin. it's good shit. not easily combustible (well, it is) but easily broken down with things ending in "ane".

what about bongs? where the smoke is filtered by water? do you believe they are bad?

the mouthwash/quid thing is fine, but probably a waste of dope. i'll look into it more, though.

good old hash brownies and cannibutter - definitely the way to go.

i'm working on /thinking about a cannabis beer...

[SMOKEU]

i'm working on /thinking about a cannabis beer...[/COLOR]

Sounds tasty. Let us know how it goes.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Isn't that the point? ;)

Yeah kinda. It works both ways, too, as you've alluded to: i.e. because A follows B it does not follow that A caused B. That works if your proposition is "I smoke weed therefore I am creative" AND "I am dumb as a box of hammers and smoke a lot of weed"

[onearmedbandit]

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/130536/war-on-drugs-failing-helen-clark
Updated at 4:20 pm on 15 March 2013




No one else noticed this??




what about bongs? where the smoke is filtered by water? do you believe they are bad?



There's differing opinions about water bongs. Although a quick search on the net for a source revealed little.

[Big Dave]

Mariabis would have been easier.

[Akzle]

Mariabis would have been easier.

really? i think cannibijuana rolls off the tongue better...

[scissorhands]

No one else noticed this??

There's differing opinions about water bongs. Although a quick search on the net for a source revealed little.

I included the 4.20pm bit on purpose, good to see it got spotted!

Spotting in a Kiwi invention. I dislike it and its quite harmful due to excessively hot temp of inhaled smoke

Bongs more harmful, it been proven. Water particles entering the lungs is one reason, and if your paying retail for your weed its more expensive due to desirable sticky bits in the smoke sticking to all surfaces and water it touches enroute to the lung. Another harm reduction argument is they filter out the desirable sticky trichomes, the bits you want in you lungs, and filter less of the tars, the bits you dont want in your lungs.

Vapourisers are great for noobs smoking, cool and very little CO2 etc

Hash is the [more advanced] traditional method of consumption for the last 2000 years, but transportation and keeping may have been a factor too. Much less unwanted smoke particulates

For me I think above and beyond all arguments is the quality of the weed or how it is cultivated.

Indoor cultivation tends to be much less organic than outdoor, though indoor is generally at least 30% stronger so you burn less plant material.

If I had a choice I would choose hash, and regarding buds, quality outdoor over indoor every time.

Indoor is like continuously brewed crap cheap beer in aluminium cans, outdoor is like spring water batch brewed in non plasticised glass bottles.

California med pot is outdoor organic. NZ med pot is indoor and full of artificial nutrients. The difference between the two, in regards to health, is a world apart.

But if all your concerned about is getting wasted then the kiwi indoor is stronger.

Hot house hydroponic tomatoes are shit compared to tasty outdoor ones grown in real soils with real light, and not stressed by electromagnetic fields.

One day weed growers will be on country calendar:lol:

[scissorhands]

nope. not at all. i've known "major daily users" of both tobacco, cannabis, and a few other smokables, who have not suffered any "smokers coughs and smoker's voice" infact, if you didn't know they smoked, you wouldn't.

the "tar" is resin. it's good shit. not easily combustible (well, it is) but easily broken down with things ending in "ane".

what about bongs? where the smoke is filtered by water? do you believe they are bad?

the mouthwash/quid thing is fine, but probably a waste of dope. i'll look into it more, though.

good old hash brownies and cannibutter - definitely the way to go.

i'm working on /thinking about a cannabis beer...[/COLOR][/COLOR]

If your a fan of edibles, the sublingual administration is quite different than via the stomach. Via the stomach means the liver is [more] involved and it sucks up THC like a sponge, and you need to consume a fairly large amount. Sublingually in milk or 90% plus alcohols, you need only about 20% of what you would use in butter.

Not only is it cheaper, the experience is much lighter and heady, compared to the [heavy cant move from the chair] body stone of a cookie or cake. Also with sublingual the fall off is sharper, so the next day the head full of concrete feeling is much less.

Now that I'm a non user or possibly only with friends who are partaking variety, the arguments over harm reduction is a moot point for me, as volumes are too low to be of any significant heath concern

[MIXONE]

i'm working on /thinking about a cannabis beer...[/COLOR]

Funny you should say that.Apparently hops is the only thing you can cross cannabis with.

[scissorhands]

Yep they graft together as they are similar plants. Pissed and stoned, a Kiwi win win

You cant brew a beer out of buds instead of hops and expect to get stoned of it.
Trichomes of THC are not water soluble

Buy a bottle of 90% absinthe, put buddage in coffee grinder, empty fine crumbs into jar, use a small paint brush to brush out fine trichomes adherring to grinder surfaces, add absinthe, leave in hot water cupboard or hot vehicle [out of sunlight] for some days, shaking daily.
Add 1-5ml of absinthe to each glass of beer, sip slowly holding sips for as long as possible. Gulping beer will require much more tincture to get same effect as slow sipping. Sipping will also potentiate alcohol

[SMOKEU]

Yep they graft together as they are similar plants. Pissed and stoned, a Kiwi win win

You cant brew a beer out of buds instead of hops and expect to get stoned of it.
Trichomes of THC are not water soluble

Buy a bottle of 90% absinthe, put buddage in coffee grinder, empty fine crumbs into jar, use a small paint brush to brush out fine trichomes adherring to grinder surfaces, add absinthe, leave in hot water cupboard or hot vehicle [out of sunlight] for some days, shaking daily.
Add 1-5ml of absinthe to each glass of beer, sip slowly holding sips for as long as possible. Gulping beer will require much more tincture to get same effect as slow sipping. Sipping will also potentiate alcohol

That's similar to green dragon. SWIM made a brew with some 60%ABV spirit, and added a whole lot of bush. They left it for a few weeks, shaking occasionally, and then filtered off the plant material which left a very dark green, freshly cut lawn sort of smell. SWIM told me it certainly kicked ass after 2 or 3 shots.

[Akzle]

so, some motherfuckers in oz, instead of laxing regulation on the god given, are prescribing synthetic cannabis (sativex) to cure the same shit the herb does.
pharma-Jews:1. God: fuck y0u.

[unstuck]

so, some motherfuckers in oz, instead of laxing regulation on the god given, are prescribing synthetic cannabis (sativex) to cure the same shit the herb does.
pharma-Jews:1. God: fuck y0u.

FUCKING stupid humans.:weird:

[ellipsis]

...if it doesn't suit ...dont...those slacks that HDC posted a pic of were kinda cool...in a fucked up way though...tax that thought, go on, dare ya...

[Akzle]

a lowly two million dollars worth of cannabis. (2000 plants with an apparent value of 1k$ each) have been pulled out of auckland (:p, faggots)

The cost of this one week of busting? (presumably the pointy end of an operation since last season - 1 year), fuck knows how many cops (from 6 different locales), an army chopper (presumably pilot and co), court process for 16 warrants against 8 persons...
Less than 2 mil? Ya reckon?

If i win lotto i will give 3 million dollars worth of cannabis to auckland.
And i hate you fuckers.

[Mushu]

Can ya send some down here, its pretty thin in the ground these days. I'm guessing a few local grow ops were busted over summer, it's been hard to get since xmas. I've been so long without it I'm pretty sure I could pass a piss test which is depressing since its not by choice.

[Madness]

If i win lotto i will give 3 million dollars worth of cannabis to auckland.
And i hate you fuckers.

Text me, I'll pick it up :niceone:

[unstuck]

I would share if I could, Honestly.:devil2::doobey:

[Akzle]

Text me, I'll pick it up :niceone:

you wont need to homie, ill be chucking blaksaks full out of my helicopter.

[blue rider]

I would share if I could, Honestly.:devil2::doobey:


there you go....:)

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2999/img00402201009171808.jpg

[rustyrobot]

Funny you should say that.Apparently hops is the only thing you can cross cannabis with.

Doesn't stop people from getting creative though....

Florida Biochemist designs a citrus tree with THC (http://thecrit.com/2008/10/05/florida-biochemist-designs-a-citrus-tree-with-thc/)

[unstuck]

there you go....:)



What, no Blueberry. Peasants. :ar15:

[george formby]

What, no Blueberry. Peasants. :ar15:

No Charis either. Sweat & pollen. Yum de doo. How to laugh for 3 hours.

[SMOKEU]

So where do I get these skunky ass oranges? They sound tasty.

[scumdog]

interesting... (http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21573135-americas-first-market-recreational-marijuana-will-be-far-free-tax-and-tax-again)
i wonder how long it is before the NZ monarchkey admit the inevitability and start insitagating/enforcing the taxation thereof.

Meh, then there will be KB threads about how unfair the canapiss taxes are...:rolleyes:

[ducatilover]

I was lost at natropath.

[Berries]

I have lost my Rizlas.

[unstuck]

I have lost my Rizlas.

Use a page from the bible then, or make a cone out of a toilet roll and a bit of tin foil.:wari:

[Akzle]

How to laugh for 3 hours.

chris rocks bigger blacker and uncut gives it a good nudge.

[Akzle]

So where do I get these skunky ass oranges? They sound tasty.

keeeeeeen.

[Akzle]

Meh, then there will be KB threads about how unfair the canapiss taxes are...:rolleyes:

hello scum puppy. How are you today?

[mashman]

I have lost my Rizlas.

Make cookies and kill 2 birds with 1 stone :D

[SMOKEU]

Do some buckies.

[ellipsis]

I have lost my Rizlas.

...was just retrieving our neighbours water tank from in a tree down HW75 a bit...found a whole carton of them, albeit, Zig Zags, along with a lot of other stock from the two businesses up in the village...I'll courier them down if you want...dont thank me, it's the least I could do...they are damp...

[u4ea]

Meh, then there will be KB threads about how unfair the canapiss taxes are...:rolleyes:

Thats gotta be a better alternative than having all this legal synthetic high crap out there..its choking up our health system ....literally:(

[Akzle]

so i just heard on the news that some old git is going to the pokey, for growing medical marajuana and giving it away. nevermind that some of his "patients" have y'know, got better and shit (stopped having seizures)
they're saying, at crown caught, that "he's giving people false hope" - as though cannabis isn't helping people.

i did have a thread on pharma jews but i don't know where it's gone.
meanwhile, sativex is available on prescription :facepalm:

and in my search, came up with some positive shit concerning the occupied territories of palestine, for a change:
http://www.3news.co.nz/world/israel-pushing-ahead-with-medical-marijuana-2012110312
http://www.3news.co.nz/world/israels-cannabis-farm-photos-2010083016

[unstuck]

Our society gave up sensible decision making a long long time ago, why are you surprised?

[ducatilover]

http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a584/fredszx11/images_zpsvfrc79bk.jpg:2thumbsup

[avgas]

https://imgflip.com/i/brxn6
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[mashman]

Internet Mana wants cannabis law review (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/24897334/internet-mana-wants-cannabis-law-review/)... heh heh heh. Not much better than the internet and drugs.

[mashman]

Alaskan TV reporter curses, quits on air over marijuana issue (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/odd/25084945/alaskan-tv-reporter-curses-quits-on-air-over-marijuana-issue/)