AMPS and Triumphs?

[Monkfish]

Hey all,

I was in AMPS yesterday drooling, when I noticed they had removed all of the Triumphs from the shop floor.
(I wanted to compare a speedmaster to a 883 superlow)
I found a peon running around with a couple of bits of paper in his hands, and asked him what the deal was.
Apparently Harley has had the pressure on them to become a Harley only dealer for quite some time now, I guess the HOG rally (and important Harley people) last month had something to do with the decision, but no more Triumph for AMPS in auckland :shit: :bye:

The only place to look for a new Triumph in all of Dorkland would now be Holeshot on the shore. is that correct? or is their any other dealers that I havent found? :brick:

[iYRe]

According to my father in law (harley rider currently visiting us from the USA :weep: ) Its happening in the USA too.. several dealerships in Denver where he lives, have had to move out any other brands from their harley showroom. Some have just given up and only sell harley, and others have a second showroom, in which they are allowed to sell "others". Quite strict rules about it, from what he was saying. He also suggested its been a sort of new thing over the last year, one at a time, they are all changing.

[Monkfish]

I understand that by bullying other brands out of "their" dealerships, they get to remain exclusive and it works for their Image. But it really sucks for the potential buyer now. no way to see the bike you want side by side.

[BigAl]

Maybe Harley don't want you to compare

[HenryDorsetCase]

Harley don't want you to compare

FTFY.

Theres a long thread on this on KB somewhere.

[Devil]

The only place to look for a new Triumph in all of Dorkland would now be Holeshot on the shore. is that correct?

Holeshot are friendlier anyway. You haven't lost anything there. Go buy the Triumph and give the finger to HD ;)
And yes, there is a significant thread on this already.

[manxkiwi]

Was in Welly a couple of weeks ago and Wellington Motorcycles have had to drop Triumph too. I think you'll find also that Cyclespot have two showrooms because Honda and BMW won't share floor space. I'd like to see a big shop that did them all, but I guess we'll never see that.

[GTRMAN]

Was in Welly a couple of weeks ago and Wellington Motorcycles have had to drop Triumph too. I think you'll find also that Cyclespot have two showrooms because Honda and BMW won't share floor space. I'd like to see a big shop that did them all, but I guess we'll never see that.

Motomart in the Hutt has BMW and Honda in the same showroom, and Ducati...

[HenryDorsetCase]

Was in Welly a couple of weeks ago and Wellington Motorcycles have had to drop Triumph too. I think you'll find also that Cyclespot have two showrooms because Honda and BMW won't share floor space. I'd like to see a big shop that did them all, but I guess we'll never see that.

WM never had Triumph as far as I am aware. They do have Suzuki. Triumph in Wellyville is the crowd on the one way system: Motorad?

[oneofsix]

WM never had Triumph as far as I am aware. They do have Suzuki. Triumph in Wellyville is the crowd on the one way system: Motorad?

They did briefly I seem to remember but Motorad on Vivian have had it the longest

[F5 Dave]

WMC did have triumph since inception of the new company, right up till, hmm, think I looked at a 2006 so a little after that for sure. But they also had Guzzi for a while.

Apparently Suzuki don't make dirtbikes for wgtn market.

For years Honda in NZ did the same. Was shocked in UK dealers had several brands on same floor.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Was in Welly a couple of weeks ago and Wellington Motorcycles have had to drop Triumph too. I think you'll find also that Cyclespot have two showrooms because Honda and BMW won't share floor space. I'd like to see a big shop that did them all, but I guess we'll never see that.


WM never had Triumph as far as I am aware. They do have Suzuki. Triumph in Wellyville is the crowd on the one way system: Motorad?


They did briefly I seem to remember but Motorad on Vivian have had it the longest


WMC did have triumph since inception of the new company, right up till, hmm, think I looked at a 2006 so a little after that for sure. But they also had Guzzi for a while.

Apparently Suzuki don't make dirtbikes for wgtn market.

r.

Correct F5 Dave. We had Triumph from the rebirth right up until we'd had enough of Triumph NZ's shit service and dropped the francise. That was when the Street Triple was about to arrive. Can't quite remember when that was.

We've been selling a few dirtbikes of late too just for fun.

[ktm84mxc]

The way things are going the RedBarron group will be the only shops in the main Nth Isld centers , the Giltrap groups motorcycle equivalent.

[pritch]

Honda like their dealers to be one brand only, the local parts guy was explaining this to me one day. I was wondering what he'd make of Peter Stevens in Melbourne when we called in on the way to PI. That must've been an eye opener for him.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The way things are going the RedBarron group will be the only shops in the main Nth Isld centers , the Giltrap groups motorcycle equivalent.

lol. You're kidding right?

[BoristheBiter]

Honda like their dealers to be one brand only, the local parts guy was explaining this to me one day. I was wondering what he'd make of Peter Stevens in Melbourne when we called in on the way to PI. That must've been an eye opener for him.

Now that is what a bike shop should be like.:2thumbsup

Spent hours in that shop when we too went to PI.
And they shipped everything back to NZ for free.

[BoristheBiter]

The way things are going the RedBarron group will be the only shops in the main Nth Isld centers , the Giltrap groups motorcycle equivalent.

That would be a dark day for bikes if that was true.

[Big Dave]

Will you be selling Harley and Suzuki in the same shop ongoing, Mr Crasher?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Will you be selling Harley and Suzuki in the same shop ongoing, Mr Crasher?

Harley have for years tried to get us to go with them only. To tell you the truth Dave, I'd be very surprised if Garry and Steve ever would. I'd certainly hate to see Suzuki go.

[F5 Dave]

Now that is what a bike shop should be like.:2thumbsup

Spent hours in that shop when we too went to PI.
And they shipped everything back to NZ for free.
Meh, Elizabeth st used to be a real bike Mecca. Yes Peter Stevens was pretty much the biggest & the cleanest run (well since I first went), but the others had a diversity that was a valuable addition to the scene in general. One domination is never the best. The rest are gone or a former shadow.

[Big Dave]

FWIW The Team Moto group in NSW Qld are now the big retail player.
They have an outlet for most popular brands.
I think they own Morgan & Wacker Harley and BMW now too, but don't quote me. Pub talk.
Some are individual showrooms, some are mixed breeds.

[F5 Dave]

what if you had Harley, BMW & Guzzi, sold in the same shop? Would you have mixed Beards?

[BoristheBiter]

Meh, Elizabeth st used to be a real bike Mecca. Yes Peter Stevens was pretty much the biggest & the cleanest run (well since I first went), but the others had a diversity that was a valuable addition to the scene in general. One domination is never the best. The rest are gone or a former shadow.

The first time I went they were a few crappy little dives with some well dodgy bikes for sale and no accessories.
they have gone yes but it couldn't see it was a bad thing as I couldn't see anyone buying from them.
There was still the HD/Triumph/Can-am shop just off Elizabeth and the Victory shop up the top next do to the Ducati shop.
Still way better then here.


what if you had Harley, BMW & Guzzi, sold in the same shop? Would you have mixed Beards?

No just different tassels.

[Maha]

AMP's is a good place to hang out on any weekend day if you want a giggle..iykwim

The Visual effect will include (sooner or later) the sterotypical 'arley owner ..Big grey/orange moustache (grey because of his age and orange because he still smokes Park Drive)
The leather vest/jacket with 856 badges attached from the 856 events he has attended over the years.
Can’t miss the Lion Red induced waistline hanging over the faux bull denim jeans which barely cover the 1970’s etched Tan leather cowboy boots.

[Big Dave]

AMP's is a good place to hang out on any weekend day if you want a giggle..iykwim

No, why - do the KB rides start there?

[Maha]

No, why - do the KB rides start there?

Previous post now edited.

[Big Dave]

With no improvement.

[Maha]

You're right, I for got to mention the wenches with them. (thats a real tounge twister right there)

[Big Dave]

You're right, I for got to mention the wenches with them. (thats a real tounge twister right there)

OK - first I have no 'vested' interest (Geddit) other than all I see is customers - and I do get invited to lots of events.

Some of the squillion and one badged chain smokers are some of the most solid bikers I have ever interviewed. Harder cases than I'll ever be.

If you are going to bag lifestylers, make sure you do it for all of the dealerships cause there are dufus' (what do you say there hitcher) and good cahunts at all of them. S'all I'm sayin'.

[Maha]

OK - first I have no 'vested' interest (Geddit) other than all I see is customers - and I do get invited to lots of events.

Some of the squillion and one badged chain smokers are some of the most solid bikers I have ever interviewed. Harder cases than I'll ever be.

If you are going to bag lifestylers, make sure you do it for all of the dealerships cause there are dufus and good cahunts at all of them. S'all I'm sayin'.

I agree...:calm:
This place is way to easy...no challenge at all...:brick:
At least Honda riders take it on the chin (pun intended) :baby:

[HenryDorsetCase]

No, why - do the KB rides start there?

Oh Dave, as if ANYone on KB actually rides.

[Big Dave]

I think that apostrophe on Dufus' may be incorrect.

[Big Dave]

Oh Dave, as if ANYone on KB actually rides.

But it's way easier to type while I'm rendering video too.

[Monkfish]

I just wanted to drool over some Triumphs and Harleys...... is that too much to ask! :drool:

[HenryDorsetCase]

I just wanted to drool over some Triumphs and Harleys...... is that too much to ask! :drool:

I'm going with yes.

[Big Dave]

There is a test of the Speedmaster and a Road King in this month's Kiwi Rider.

[boman]

Hey all,

I was in AMPS yesterday drooling, when I noticed they had removed all of the Triumphs from the shop floor.
(I wanted to compare a speedmaster to a 883 superlow)
I found a peon running around with a couple of bits of paper in his hands, and asked him what the deal was.
Apparently Harley has had the pressure on them to become a Harley only dealer for quite some time now, I guess the HOG rally (and important Harley people) last month had something to do with the decision, but no more Triumph for AMPS in auckland :shit: :bye:

The only place to look for a new Triumph in all of Dorkland would now be Holeshot on the shore. is that correct? or is their any other dealers that I havent found? :brick:

That is correct. Rob told me this a couple of months ago. Go down to Hamilton Motorcycles. Friendly as, and helpful too. I wish I had bought my bike there. Next service is theirs.

I would rather donate my left one, than go to holeshots...

[Scouse]

AMP's is a good place to hang out on any weekend day if you want a giggle..iykwim

The Visual effect will include (sooner or later) the sterotypical 'arley owner ..Big grey/orange moustache (grey because of his age and orange because he still smokes Park Drive)
The leather vest/jacket with 856 badges attached from the 856 events he has attended over the years.
Can’t miss the Lion Red induced waistline hanging over the faux bull denim jeans which barely cover the 1970’s etched Tan leather cowboy boots.Oy there buddy

[Maha]

Oy there buddy

.... a little over ambitious on the badge estimate? :eek5:

[Big Dave]

.... a little over ambitious on the badge etsimate? :eek5:

Can't afford Park Drive.

You've heard him. That's a Rothman's Froat.

[Damantis]

Or will they be the next shop to close?

When I win the powerball, I'm going to set up a moytorcycle "Warehouse" I will parrallel import every brand of bike and sell them all on one floor. One shop for the country. Test rides will be available around the country via a truck or two visiting all the main centres. Service and maintainance will be contracted out to all the motorcycle mechanics who will find themselves unemployed when all the pissy one brand dealers fold from trying to compete with me.

Problem solved.

Can anyone loan me some money for a lotto ticket?

[tri boy]

I just wanted to drool over some Triumphs and Harleys...... is that too much to ask! :drool:


Pootle down hwy1, or 22 if your in the mood.
Oggle Trumpys at Heaths, cross the road to Road n Toad for your fix on Charley Harrisons, stroll 50mtrs up to Boyds for a Suzi gathering with KTMs thrown in for flavour. Another 50 paces up to NTB m/cycles has Huskeys and Apes out front, cross the road again, stroll past Heath, (Ham motorcycles, Tri, Kwack, Duck) and pop your head into HD cycles where there is all manner of after market HD gear and some very tasty hogs on display.

Sat morning in the tron:cool:

[Madness]

I think that apostrophe on Dufus' may be incorrect.

Dufi?

I'd say you're on the money with the Rothmans though.

[AllanB]

Pre EQ CHCH was good on a Sat morn down Manchester St (the other end of the street was a different matter later in the evening....)

There was Honda, BMW, Triumph, Harley, Moto Guzzi and Suzuki all within a stones throw of each other. Oh and Pit Lane for tyres!

Farking Earthquakes :-(

[hellokitty]

Holeshot are friendlier anyway.


:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme :killingme
There customer service is appalling.... I waited for help for 10 minutes while 2 of the shop guys were chatting about personal crap. They knew I was there, I was right in front of them. When they finally decided to help me, they were so patronising.


That is correct. Rob told me this a couple of months ago. Go down to Hamilton Motorcycles. Friendly as, and helpful too. I wish I had bought my bike there. Next service is theirs.

I would rather donate my left one, than go to holeshots...

I guess I will have to travel to Hamilton then, for my next service...
Once the bike is out of warranty, I will go back to Cyclespot, where I always get great service.

[nzspokes]

:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme :killingme
There customer service is appalling.... I waited for help for 10 minutes while 2 of the shop guys were chatting about personal crap. They knew I was there, I was right in front of them. When they finally decided to help me, they were so patronising

You don't want your bike in there workshop either. :crazy:

[BoristheBiter]

:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme :killingme
There customer service is appalling.... I waited for help for 10 minutes while 2 of the shop guys were chatting about personal crap. They knew I was there, I was right in front of them. When they finally decided to help me, they were so patronising.



I guess I will have to travel to Hamilton then, for my next service...
Once the bike is out of warranty, I will go back to Cyclespot, where I always get great service.

:killingme They're even worse. they would have to be one of the worse service crew around.

[Monkfish]

Pootle down hwy1, or 22 if your in the mood.
Oggle Trumpys at Heaths, cross the road to Road n Toad for your fix on Charley Harrisons, stroll 50mtrs up to Boyds for a Suzi gathering with KTMs thrown in for flavour. Another 50 paces up to NTB m/cycles has Huskeys and Apes out front, cross the road again, stroll past Heath, (Ham motorcycles, Tri, Kwack, Duck) and pop your head into HD cycles where there is all manner of after market HD gear and some very tasty hogs on display.

Sat morning in the tron:cool:

:doh: :weep::weep:
Ive been avoiding the Tron for the best part of a decade. (think Ive been there once in the last 5 years).
but needs are needs.

What about Bayride, I could make excuses to go to Tauranga. :ride:

[Tigadee]

What about Bayride, I could make excuses to go to Tauranga. :ride:

Make sure you drop by Action Sports Direct (http://www.actionsportsdirect.co.nz/)! :drool:


There [Holeshot] customer service is appalling.... I waited for help for 10 minutes while 2 of the shop guys were chatting about personal crap. They knew I was there, I was right in front of them. When they finally decided to help me, they were so patronising.

Sexist pigs! :lol:

[Devil]

:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme :killingme
There customer service is appalling.... I waited for help for 10 minutes while 2 of the shop guys were chatting about personal crap. They knew I was there, I was right in front of them. When they finally decided to help me, they were so patronising.

Sucks to be you I guess.

[Devil]

:killingme They're even worse. they would have to be one of the worse service crew around.

Had the best service from any bike shop at Holeshot. Will continue to keep going back.

[nzspokes]

Had the best service from any bike shop at Holeshot. Will continue to keep going back.

My experence with there workshop was not good. Upstairs was fine.

[BoristheBiter]

Had the best service from any bike shop at Holeshot. Will continue to keep going back.

That comment was aimed at Cyclespot.

Holeshot service have not been bad but they haven't been that great either.

[Jantar]

.....
I guess I will have to travel to Hamilton then, for my next service...
....
My last service was in Hamilton, the one before that was Alexandra and the next will either be Hamilton or Wellington. No problems with having to ride to get the bike serviced. :D

[Crasherfromwayback]

My last service was in Hamilton, the one before that was Alexandra and the next will either be Hamilton or Wellington. No problems with having to ride to get the bike serviced. :D

Should you be good enough to come here Malcolm, I'll happily organize a bike for you to use while yours is here.

[Gremlin]

No problems with having to ride to get the bike serviced. :D
Other way around... the bike has to be serviced because you ride :D

[MIXONE]

Pre EQ CHCH was good on a Sat morn down Manchester St (the other end of the street was a different matter later in the evening....)

There was Honda, BMW, Triumph, Harley, Moto Guzzi and Suzuki all within a stones throw of each other. Oh and Pit Lane for tyres!

Farking Earthquakes :-(

And don't forget Fazazz just around the corner.A great way to spend a few hours.


The other end at night it was crack whores throwing stones at each other wasn't it?

[HenryDorsetCase]

And don't forget Fazazz just around the corner.A great way to spend a few hours.


The other end at night it was crack whores throwing stones at each other wasn't it?

That and Realgroovy, Galaxy and Penny Lane record stores all within that same stones throw, plus decent coffee at C1 or Mondo, plus you could send SWMBO for a wander up and down the High St boooteeeeeks.

Farking Earthquakes.

[trustme]

I wonder who will pick up Triumph ? not too many dealers left south of the bridge now.

[Magnum Noel]

Should you be good enough to come here Malcolm, I'll happily organize a bike for you to use while yours is here.

I'm all right jack.

[BAD DAD]

It must have an affect on GP$$$ getting patched over like that . Imagine being told that you can no longer associate with previously loyal customers.

[Crasherfromwayback]

It must have an affect on GP$$$ getting patched over like that . Imagine being told that you can no longer associate with previously loyal customers.

We luckily still get a lot of our Triumph customers coming to us. As obviously we still have all the special tools and service books/discs etc.

[cheshirecat]

We luckily still get a lot of our Triumph customers coming to us. As obviously we still have all the special tools and service books/discs etc.
and your coffee

[sels1]

and your coffee

Better coffee two doors down......(sorry Pete...)

[cheshirecat]

Better coffee two doors down......(sorry Pete...)
Obviously I was referring to his coffee in the spirit of customer service not the after effects or the fortunate proximity of the near by drain to dispose of it.

[munster]

Went into AMPS a few months ago and sat on the Thunderbird Storm. That's my next bike for sure. What a shame I won't be buying it from there.

I just read a history of Harley, they got into trouble for unfair trading practices some decades ago for doing this same shit to dealers in the states.

[trustme]

Amps were able to retain Triumph but Harley would appoint a second AK dealer if they did so. Given that HD is Amps big earner it was kind of a no brainer. Another Triumph dealer will be appointed but not in the immediate future. Ducati to Cyclespot . Info from reliable source.

[Monkfish]

Amps were able to retain Triumph but Harley would appoint a second AK dealer if they did so. Given that HD is Amps big earner it was kind of a no brainer. Another Triumph dealer will be appointed but not in the immediate future. Ducati to Cyclespot . Info from reliable source.

That is just legalized blackmail....... "if you dont do as we say, we will hurt your income"

How can they get away with shit like that.

[HenryDorsetCase]

That is just legalized blackmail....... "if you dont do as we say, we will hurt your income"

How can they get away with shit like that.

because none of the parties wish to take it any further. My view is that it is at least anti competitive in breach of s36 of the Commerce Act. But in the absence of a complaint, we will never know.

http://www.comcom.govt.nz/

but have a crack, see how it goes.

[trustme]

Surely appointing a second dealer is creating a more competitive market & giving the purchaser more choice. Just playing devils advocate here. Perhaps the villain is Amps, they are taking anti competitive measures to protect their market by making sure there is no other HD dealer in AK.

No I don't really believe that , Ray has always been a good guy & a straight shooter in my book, dealt with him for 35 years & wish him well .

[Monkfish]

No I don't really believe that , Ray has always been a good guy & a straight shooter in my book, dealt with him for 35 years & wish him well .

The peon I spoke to did mention that HD has been on their case for years now. So I aggree , I think AMPS is the victim in this. I have also herd nothing but good things about the boys down at AMPS, that's coming from my mate, a long term triump rider. -brought his Trident 900 brand new from AMPS in 1998.

[Flip]

I used to own a new Triumph and have had first hand experience just how fucking terrible Triumph service is. I have little intention of owning another while Triumph NZ has any involvement in the process. My experience with Harley has been completely different, as in night and day.

If I was Harley and I had invested getting the dealerships up to my corporate standards I would not want the dealer selling other manuifacturers products. Took a mate to the local BMW dealer to order a few parts then went to the local Harley dealer for a coffee (yep free), my mate said after we walked in the door and was greated by the sales staff that going to the BMW agent was like being a lepper. He brought a set of riding clothes that day from the Harley agent just because the service surpassed his expectations.

The whole high quality dealer experience is one reason why Harley Davidson is the market leader.

Now if Triumph would like to cough up with the parts............... no I didn't think so.

[Flip]

Still waiting for Triumph to cough up with the parts I paid for............................

[Morcs]

Whinge whinge whinge. Ive realised that there really is a scary amount of idiots, wierdos and complete fuckwits who ride motorcycles. 9 times out of 10 they are the ones that waste your time, are rude, then complain.

[Big Dave]

Or you're assuming that posts on an internet forum using pseudonyms is representational?

[Morcs]

Or you're assuming that posts on an internet forum using pseudonyms is representational?

I no longer have any affiliation so I can go back to honesty. With much relief.

[Tazz]

That is just legalized blackmail....... "if you dont do as we say, we will hurt your income"

How can they get away with shit like that.

They will have signed something in the past with a hole for something like this to get pushed through no doubt.

You think this is bad, look at Pandora (the American company that stole a design from an Italian one and made a fortune)

They had a min stock buy in of around 25-30k to get setup (bear in mind you're selling things that retail for $40-$400, so that is a big investment), had min stock orders (someone wanted an oddball product, you had to order 3 and eat the two you would never sell), and then after they had given it to every man and his dog they set up their own branded stores and told all their customers to get f'ed, they wouldn't supply any of them anymore, worldwide.

That really opened my eyes to how the business world works these days.

[Old Steve]

Yeah, Bayride in Tauranga is my kind of bike shop. Triumph, Yamaha, Ducati. Good stock of bikes, anything parked outside on the footpath is there for a trial ride. From my occaisional exerience, there's a good team downstairs in the workshop too. I reckon it'd well be worth a ride down from Auckland to look at bikes there, even if you didn't close a deal you'd have had a great 400 km ride through the Karangahake Gorge or down Hwy 27 and over the Kaimais.

A couple of years ago the agency that is now Red Baron Mt Maunganui let Honda go as Honda demanded they be exclusive dealers. Then the Kawasaki/Moto Guzzi/Hyosung dealership was bought out and changed to Polaris ATVs (wonder if they will introduce Victory and Indian?)

I've thought that it'd be a good mixed brand bike shop with everything that's missing in Tauranga/Mt M, Honda, Kawasaki, Moto Guzzi, Victory and Indian.

The Honda agent here in Mackay, Tropical Queensland, has Honda, Triumph and Victory. I wonder if Honda ever has the balls to put the hard word on them to be an exclusive dealership? I think Triumph, Victory and Indian would make a nice dealership - everything from the Street Triple, Speed Triple, Bonnevilles, to the new Indians and the Victorys (or is that Victories?). A little weighted towards heavy cruisers, but every miner buys a Harley or a clone when he gets his job so it'd be the perfect dealership for the area.

[jellywrestler]

I understand that by bullying other brands out of "their" dealerships, they get to remain exclusive and it works for their Image. But it really sucks for the potential buyer now. no way to see the bike you want side by side.

yeah when i tried to buy a burger king meal at mcdonalds they simply wouldn
t sell me one, pissed me right off I tell ya!

[ratusratus]

yeah when i tried to buy a burger king meal at mcdonalds they simply wouldn
t sell me one, pissed me right off I tell ya!


above me is the most sensible thing i have read on this forum

[GrayWolf]

Whether we like it or not, Corporatisation is going to become more and more evident...
Market leader or not, HD are based in an economy that is failing at a National level, even the Japanese 'big 4' have felt the squeeze.. ( Dont forget Yamaha have recently put forward some similar expectations of their dealerships.)
For any large business, whether we, as the end product consumer like it or not; to make those selling your product a one company outlet makes good financial and business sense.
It may be considered 'unfair', all those top corporate officials are interested in is MONEY, everyone thinks that HD are doing what they do for the 'love of those who buy the product'.... Reality is, if they could dispense with HOG, and the so called amazing dealership's and still make the same profits?
It's an outstanding marketing/profit making tool.. and for that, good on HD. They have in effect 'branded' the outlaw biker image to their bikes, just like HD owners say HD 'invented' the cruiser look.... no they didn't, HD simply have continued for around 60 yrs to produce bikes with the same basic styling.
Sadly maybe due to distance, low sales, (other factors) Some manufacturers products seem to not get the service/support that they do in the Northern Hemisphere.. I know from being a BMW owner in England, the dealership support/services and quality in the 80/90's was outstanding.

Maybe it's down more to the importers, those who hold the purse strings, as to what seems to be 'shoddy service/back up' mentioned by some here, rather than actual lack of support, from the manufacturer?
The demise of the English Car/Motorcycle manufacturing industry is an 'historical' warning, it now has no 'home brand' major producer.. The US car industry (GM specifically) has just recently lurched from major crisis to major crisis, had the Govt not stepped in? GM would likely be gone in it's entirety. Remember GM disposed of SAAB, HD 'disposed' of Buell. No GM? No Holden, Vauxhall, Opel, and all the US brands owned by that corporate.

The likelyhood is, China WILL be the major player within a couple of decades,,,,,,

[gammaguy]

Pre EQ CHCH was good on a Sat morn down Manchester St (the other end of the street was a different matter later in the evening....)

There was Honda, BMW, Triumph, Harley, Moto Guzzi and Suzuki all within a stones throw of each other. Oh and Pit Lane for tyres!

Farking Earthquakes :-(

WTF are you complaining about

it just means the cheap rides are up one end of the street and the expensive rides are gone elsewhere

tits or tyres,still cost money

[Grubber]

Still waiting for Triumph to cough up with the parts I paid for............................

Since AMPS have done with Triumph i have now started buying gear form Holeshot. Have to say, there is a vast difference in service levels compared to AMPS. I get everything i need either same day or the day after and pricing does seem better also.


Yeah, Bayride in Tauranga is my kind of bike shop. Triumph, Yamaha, Ducati. Good stock of bikes, anything parked outside on the footpath is there for a trial ride. From my occaisional exerience, there's a good team downstairs in the workshop too. I reckon it'd well be worth a ride down from Auckland to look at bikes there, even if you didn't close a deal you'd have had a great 400 km ride through the Karangahake Gorge or down Hwy 27 and over the Kaimais.

A couple of years ago the agency that is now Red Baron Mt Maunganui let Honda go as Honda demanded they be exclusive dealers. Then the Kawasaki/Moto Guzzi/Hyosung dealership was bought out and changed to Polaris ATVs (wonder if they will introduce Victory and Indian?)

I've thought that it'd be a good mixed brand bike shop with everything that's missing in Tauranga/Mt M, Honda, Kawasaki, Moto Guzzi, Victory and Indian.

The Honda agent here in Mackay, Tropical Queensland, has Honda, Triumph and Victory. I wonder if Honda ever has the balls to put the hard word on them to be an exclusive dealership? I think Triumph, Victory and Indian would make a nice dealership - everything from the Street Triple, Speed Triple, Bonnevilles, to the new Indians and the Victorys (or is that Victories?). A little weighted towards heavy cruisers, but every miner buys a Harley or a clone when he gets his job so it'd be the perfect dealership for the area.

Have to say, Bayride is pretty cool too. Good assortment of bikes to perve at and try out. Nice bunch of guys too.


yeah when i tried to buy a burger king meal at mcdonalds they simply wouldn
t sell me one, pissed me right off I tell ya!

Yup this makes a lot of sense. Why would you try promote another brand over your own.:headbang:

[AllanB]

WTF are you complaining about

it just means the cheap rides are up one end of the street and the expensive rides are gone elsewhere

tits or tyres,still cost money

Problem is most of the 'tits' on the street are carrying spare tyres around their guts ...... I could be wrong - maybe they have 4 - 6 tits like dogs.

Mind you if they looked like this ......

[Road kill]

Buy British.

[russd7]

Problem is most of the 'tits' on the street are carrying spare tyres around their guts ...... I could be wrong - maybe they have 4 - 6 tits like dogs.

Mind you if they looked like this ......

problem with that is no decent cleavage:no:

[boman]

Experience Motorcycles in Kingsland, have an agency for Triumph.

I had mine serviced there a few weeks ago. I was impressed with the service. Helpful and friendly.

[Swoop]

tits or tyres,still cost money
As the saying goes... "if it floats, fucks or flies, it is always better to rent than buy"!
Many a true word...

[cynna]

Buy British.


and wait 6 months for parts

[Zedder]

Yup this makes a lot of sense. Why would you try promote another brand over your own.:headbang:[/QUOTE]




AMPS doesn't have its own brand as such and hasn't gone the same way with the Harley-Davidson brand unlike Colemans Suzuki for example. If it was "Ray Pratt Harley-Davidson" it would be a different matter.

[Flip]

and wait 6 months for parts

In my case its been 6 years. IMHO the theiving cunts can stick them up their arse.

[vinducati]

Experience BMW in Morningside are the new Triumph dealer and service department.
They are really good, and a nice shop.
get ya Triumph in there people.

http://www.experiencemotorcycles.co.nz/

[Road kill]

and wait 6 months for parts

Last bit's I bought for my bike I ordered over the phone from Holeshot and they turned up in the post two days later.

Don't know who you deal with but I'd find another supplier if I was you.

[Flip]

Last bit's I bought for my bike I ordered over the phone from Holeshot and they turned up in the post two days later.

Don't know who you deal with but I'd find another supplier if I was you.

Last bits I brought for my (Hinkley) Triumph I ordered in person and paid for them in advance:baby:. After numerous attempts to get them I did take your advice and find a new supplier. The new supplier is Harley Davidson:rolleyes:. To this day I have never recieved any parts.

Based on my experience, I have one thing to say to any new Triumph owner, that is be very very carefull when attempting to order parts through Triumph NZ. They provided me with the worst service I have ever had from any vehicle or parts agent and all their terrible service has resulted in me changing MC brands.

[Road kill]

Last bits I brought for my (Hinkley) Triumph I ordered in person and paid for them in advance:baby:. After numerous attempts to get them I did take your advice and find a new supplier. The new supplier is Harley Davidson:rolleyes:. To this day I have never recieved any parts.

Based on my experience, I have one thing to say to any new Triumph owner, that is be very very carefull when attempting to order parts through Triumph NZ. They provided me with the worst service I have ever had from any vehicle or parts agent and all their terrible service has resulted in me changing MC brands.

Yeah I've heard you banging on about that before.

It still rings the same meter.

[Grubber]

Last bits I brought for my (Hinkley) Triumph I ordered in person and paid for them in advance:baby:. After numerous attempts to get them I did take your advice and find a new supplier. The new supplier is Harley Davidson:rolleyes:. To this day I have never recieved any parts.

Based on my experience, I have one thing to say to any new Triumph owner, that is be very very carefull when attempting to order parts through Triumph NZ. They provided me with the worst service I have ever had from any vehicle or parts agent and all their terrible service has resulted in me changing MC brands.

In my experience, any dealings i have had with AMPS over parts for my Triumph, they have never been helpful. Almost felt like they didn't really want my kind in there.
Dealing with Holeshot has been awesome, they can never do enough to help. They communicate well and keep me updated to when parts will be arriving and due to be posted out etc.
I get looked after really well.
Perhaps you should take Road Kills advice and change dealers.

[Murray]

Used this guy to get spares for my bike

http://www.vgcspares.co.nz/

Took a wee while but nothing impossible i.e. 3-4 weeks and he was pretty helpful

[Grubber]

Used this guy to get spares for my bike

http://www.vgcspares.co.nz/

Took a wee while but nothing impossible i.e. 3-4 weeks and he was pretty helpful

The very same guy rebuilt my gearbox on my racebike and he is friggin awesome.
He can get anything you want, has some great sources i believe.
I take both my bikes there for top tunes etc and haven't had an issue.
Very trustworthy, he thought he may have left a flange out of my gearbox (only cause he found a spare one on floor somewhere) but he rang me and came out to inspect it again to make sure he had things sorted. Cost bugger all too.
Recommend him to anyone and he has all the computer tech gear for tuning etc also.