CB125 bucket

[agman]

Agman here, CB125 for 300 bucks on trade me. A possible bucket?

[Pumba]

Presume you mean this one here http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/complete-engines/auction-572938526.htm

A possible bucket for sure. There are a number that punch well abover there weight, but not in standard trim

Looks a good original unmolested bike. I have always found CB125t to be cold blooded bitches that are hard to start if they have been sitting.

Fact they are a good bike, and you will have fun on it but 18 inch sticky tires are getting harder to find, then you will want to convert it to 17 inch wheels, then you will want to brace the frame, etc, etc. and you will end up spending money to get the bike to the same level as say an FXR out of the box. Or you take the engine out and drop it in another frame, which is never as easy as it sounds.

If I was making a recommendation to a mate I would be directing towards this http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-573932720.htm as even though the purchase price is more up front I am sure that in the long run you will spend less and get a better bike.

[speedpro]

Definitely an option if you could get it cheap enough. They do have some limitations which are fixable for some $$$ and they can be made to go OK for more $$$. Nowadays you need 17" wheels and better brakes all of which means mucking round and $$$. The FXR is competitive straight away - tyres and nylon for track protection is all that you need. Low 20s hp is achievable by the average punter.

I do love CB125Ts though. Such a lovely motor considering when they were made, but a bit heavy, and the sound . . . . . music :sick:

The others are right, sweat it out, save the money, and get an FXR. You won't regret it.

[agman]

Thanks for the reply. I do not have a lot of money (I am 14). So I do not as yet have a four-digit budget and am still trying to track down some work. But would this be fine to start out with and learn how to overtake etc etc

[Yow Ling]

Pumba is a wise man.
Borrow the money or whatever, if you like buckets you will end up with an fxr, save yourself some grief now.
Plenty of fxr info at www.fxr150.co.nz

[agman]

Speedpro when I was at tepuke henk was saying that you should get gsx (i think) rims as the tire will spread more and result in easier leaning?

[speedpro]

Just get an FXR and ride. Once you start crashing regularly then upgrade the wheels and anything else. Straight up the FXR is a good bike.

I think I'm going to be sick :puke:

[Farmaken]

How about a Lifan ??
One on TM $450 ready to ride
Might be a dog but will get you out there, eh

[agman]

Yea I'd prefer to stray away from Chinese thanks. I'm getting an idea that I should go for an fxr, but I really just wanna get out there and do it!!!

[Pumba]

How about a Lifan ??

This one http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-574332719.htm I presume?

Still not going to be what I would consider a long term bucket in that there is not a lot of point developing it further however bang for buck it would be a better starting point than the CB125t if your budget cant extend to a FXR (which it sounds like it cant at this stage)

[Pumba]

Yea I'd prefer to stray away from Chinese thanks. I'm getting an idea that I should go for an fxr, but I really just wanna get out there and do it!!!

Dont be so quick to dismis it. I am not sure (and can someone please confirm) that the Lifan engine is the same as the Lonchin?

As I said, I would not be developing it further, but it will get you out on the track on a modern bike with 17 inch rims and the Lonchin/Lifan engines have proven to be competitive and reliable engines

[Pumba]

Pumba is a wise man.

Oh missed that the first time round. I feel a signature addition coming on

[agman]

So a cb125 is a bad idea :/

[Farmaken]

Not a bad idea, but not a get me on the track tomorrow idea
Depends whether you want to build one or just ride one - time and money, eh

[Pumba]

So a cb125 is a bad idea :/

Not a bad idea (and I welcome anyone elses opinion) because like Speedpro I too really like the engines. But you need to be aware what the limitations of the bike are and that if you are short on money and knowledge then there are probably better choices out there.

[chrisc]

If I was 14 and had no money I'd jump on the lifan. It's not amazing but at least you're out there having fun and getting better as a rider. All you need is something that won't break and costs little. There is a lot of money difference between an FXR and that Lifan when you're 14. Not everyone needs an FXR or 20hp (see 30hp 2 stroke) to have fun.

Get out there and get your knee on the floor!

[agman]

Hmmmmmmm I know the Lifan would be the better choice and would be quicker (my mum almost had a heart attack at the look of it) but personally the Honda looks more fun and appealing to me. And it's less money. Please keep In mind it's just to keep me inspired and keep me interisted whilst I get a job and save for an fxr.

[Henk]

I've only had a quick look at that CB but I do love the sound of the twins, having said that you'll have a fair bit of work ahead of you getting it ready for the track. On top of that about the only sticky tyre you'll get for it are BT39SS bridgestones, budget about $350 for those and unless you like the idea of crashing don't try and race it on the gingernut compound tyres likely to be on it now. The Chinese thing should get you on track faster but there is the whole Chinese bike phobia to deal with. This may be well founded or may have turned into a religious issue with no logic involved these days. I'm not brave enough to make a call on that one.

[speedpro]

Hmmmmmmm I know the Lifan would be the better choice . . . . And it's less money.

It won't be less money by the time you get it on the track with tyres and nylon and a pile of other things. That Lifan looks a good deal, ready to go and probably half decent. It looks OK for sure. Someone going your way could probably drop it off, eventually, or you could meet it at a track and take it home.

[agman]

Heck 350 for tires!!! Would a rim swap be possible? And gosh I didn't spy that second exhaust.... Not helping my case. :p

[speedpro]

less than 10 minutes to go . . . .

[agman]

Oh not to mention my dad won't lend me $200 :(

[speedpro]

My folks weren't keen to lend me money for my first bike either. I finally saved enough to buy one myself, brand new, but it fell off the truck going through the Manawatu gorge so I decided to buy my mates RD350 but he fell off it on his way to my place. Bad omens, I should have listened.

[agman]

Are you dropping hints :)

[crazy man]

Are you dropping hints :)so did ya buy the bike . l would go for the twin;) you can buy tires for around 60 bucks each witch are fine for starting of. to meany pussys out there now days

[agman]

If I were to build on it what would need to be done? I was thinking 17" rims,nylon and do any performance upgrades after I get the bike ready and have all my gear.(all I need are leathers).

[koba]

If I were to build on it what would need to be done? I was thinking 17" rims,nylon and do any performance upgrades after I get the bike ready and have all my gear.(all I need are leathers).

Nylon, nylon nylon.
Then wire everything up and race prep it.
Catch bottles rigged and other mods.

Good to go; in a participation sense.


17" rims may set you back a couple of hundie, maybe less but don't bank on it. Then you have to make them fit, front and rear, that may involve changes of sprockets and bakes, possibly both ends, plus making spacers. All more time/effort/money.
The comes the engine work, a mate has spent a fair bit of time and coin on a CB, it's about the same as an FXR is with a carb and pipe.
To get from std to FXR level would mean quite an expenditure.


I really hate to say it but: Save for the FXR.

If you are desperate to get out on the track (I understand that!) get something cheap and shit, nylon and race prep it and maybe even stretch to a set of new craparse tyres but do no more, just use it as a stepping stone to a better bike.


Just my take on the situation.

[agman]

This cb was ment to be a stepping stone of sorts, and I think it would be boring to by something already built by someone else to be honest yes it's $200 for a 17" cbr rear wheel on TM

[agman]

But gatch over on his other thread is flicking off a cb125 bucket.

[Farmaken]

Not that I want to be a party pooper, but why not sort out some leathers first and then come have a play on our bikes at Edgecumbe THEN look for / build a bike

[hal20308]

Dont be so quick to dismis it. I am not sure (and can someone please confirm) that the Lifan engine is the same as the Lonchin?

As I said, I would not be developing it further, but it will get you out on the track on a modern bike with 17 inch rims and the Lonchin/Lifan engines have proven to be competitive and reliable engines

It's the Honda OHV copy rather than the Loncin OHC GL145 copy that is seen in some buckets. It's gone to a new rider from Porirua so, like us a few years ago, it will get him out on track when there's not the $$$$ available for an FXR and we did run it on slicks as well. Although the extra grip started to show up the limitations of the chassis!

So very much a "stepping stone" bike that will always get replaced by something better if the pilot gets the racing bug, but as many have already said, good enough to learn the track and learn how to race for a beginner.

The engine never gave us any trouble in three years of racing at Kaitoke. Key learning for us was to ensure the nylon was in the right places and all the easily-broken bits like levers/bars/pegs were protected so you weren't going home early after a crash.

[all4A50s]

Yea I'd prefer to stray away from Chinese thanks. I'm getting an idea that I should go for an fxr, but I really just wanna get out there and do it!!!

I have seen this bike in action and is def a good starter, especially at that price. I can't remember the bike having any mechanical difficulties and is reasonably competitive (made me improve mine to keep up).

It's a good deal and I'm sure someone will help out getting the bike to you if freighting is an issue.

[agman]

Farmaken is that Mike from Whakatane motorcycles

[Farmaken]

Farmaken is Ken from Rotorua ( # 97 ) - I ride at Edgecumbe with Mike from Whakatane

Did you find some Leathers yet ??

[agman]

Yeap there are some for $70 from manawatu