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fireball
24th March 2013, 12:00
Looking out the door and all I want to do is go for a ride, BEAUTIFUL weather out there... But sadly this morning after a ten hour shift, walk to the carpark to find the Grim Reapers rear tyre flat as a pancake....

WTF?? how can a tyre that has no obvious damage or punctures go flat overnight?

Need advice on a decent mid range replacement, have had a look online and there is no real answer to what is the best type of tyre to use....
I have done 31800km on the original tyres that were on it when I purchased it from brand new in 2008 (yes still plenty of tread and of WOF specs)
No idea if they have a tube inside or not, so don't know if I can get away with just a tube replacement.
Don't know if it was a slow leak or puncture, but there is no visable damage and I checked my tyres about 2 weeks ago.
Do I have to change both front and rear at the same time?
Specs for the tyre is 150/80-15 for the rear and 90/90-18 for the front.

Any advice?

FJRider
24th March 2013, 12:15
Any advice?

If it took all night to go flat ... although the tyre pressure may have been down a bit from normal when you arrived at work ... a $5 bike pump from the Warehouse could have put enough air into it to get you slowly to a gas station in about 10 minutes.

It may have even let down by some unknown person ... being a smart cunt.

Or a faulty valve (or valve stem if the tyre is a tubeless one)

Slow punctures do happen. OFTEN.

fireball
24th March 2013, 12:22
If it took all night to go flat ...


From when I first got on the bike and realized it was flat, to riding it out of the carpark to where I could load it onto the truck the tyre went from being not too bad (possibly limp to the gas station) to flat as, could hardly wheel it... but I've looked and can't see any obvious holes or damage.... There is also no way someone would have touched my bike (it has someone at the carpark exit watching it who is also a biker:bash:)

Katman
24th March 2013, 12:29
It is a tube type tyre.

If you still have sufficient tread on the tyre just get someone to repair the puncture.

FJRider
24th March 2013, 12:33
From when I first got on the bike and realized it was flat, to riding it out of the carpark to where I could load it onto the truck the tyre went from being not too bad (possibly limp to the gas station) to flat as, could hardly wheel it... but I've looked and can't see any obvious holes or damage.... There is also no way someone would have touched my bike (it has someone at the carpark exit watching it who is also a biker:bash:)

Slow leaks through a puncture are common. And fit no pattern known to man (or woman). It happens ... and as annoying as it would have been ... it didn't happen at speed in the middle of nowhere ...

And the option of the truck you had ... and took. YOU and the bike in ONE piece.

Coming back to a bike (at ANY time) with a flat tyre is never a nice feeling ...

Madness
24th March 2013, 12:35
I have done 31800km on the original tyres that were on it when I purchased it from brand new in 2008 (yes still plenty of tread and of WOF specs)

Wow! That's impressive (I think).

fireball
24th March 2013, 12:44
Wow! That's impressive (I think).

If you look at the close up of my rear tyre you can see it has plenty of tread on it!
I am waiting for the "you should have got new tyres as soon as you purchased it:oi-grr:" posts telling me how naughty and cheap I am....

FJRider
24th March 2013, 12:45
I have done 31800km on the original tyres that were on it when I purchased it from brand new in 2008 (yes still plenty of tread and of WOF specs)


31,800 km's on the original tyres ... ??? :blink:

FJRider
24th March 2013, 12:51
If you look at the close up of my rear tyre you can see it has plenty of tread on it!


On close up ... only at the edge of the tyre. Not in the center where road contact is usually made. And when a puncture is more likely to happen. I doubt if that tyre would pass a WoF ..

fireball
24th March 2013, 12:54
31,800 km's on the original tyres ... ??? :blink:

Yup original tyres, not a bad effort

FJRider
24th March 2013, 12:56
Yup original tyres, not a bad effort

Looks like new tyres might be a good idea then.

george formby
24th March 2013, 13:05
On close up ... only at the edge of the tyre. Not in the center where road contact is usually made. And when a puncture is more likely to happen. I doubt if that tyre would pass a WoF ..

Yup, lookin a bit thin in the middle. 31800k?

I wish I could get a sixth of that.

Splurge on some new wubber OP, winter is nigh & your contact patch is the most important part of the bike.

fireball
24th March 2013, 13:55
What type of tyre would best suit the Intruder for the masses of power it posses, secretly of course....
I've looked at...
Dunlop K555 for $320
Shinko for $163
Bridgestone for $279

But I really have no idea what tyre would perform best as an all rounder for grip, traction, wear etc I'm no hoon and most of the riding I do sadly is the commute to and from work on the motorway :angry:

Madness
24th March 2013, 14:03
What type of tyre would best suit the Intruder for the masses of power it posses, secretly of course....
I've looked at...
Dunlop K555 for $320
Shinko for $163
Bridgestone for $279

But I really have no idea what tyre would perform best as an all rounder for grip, traction, wear etc I'm no hoon and most of the riding I do sadly is the commute to and from work on the motorway :angry:

If you're getting in excess of 30,000 K's from a rear tyre I'd suggest any tyre would suit the purpose well. I'd pick the Bridgestone, because it's a brand that starts with the letter B.

On the subject of tyres, I passed a WOF on Friday only to have to buy a new rear yesterday after noticing the centre was starting to shred & delaminate, probably due to numerous drag racing staging burnouts. The WOF tester was very casual in his inspection and obviously never picked up the tyre degredation. Moral of this story; a WOF inspection is not a basis to rely upon a tyres road-worthiness.

fireball
24th March 2013, 14:18
Would it be a sensible thing to replace the front?
It is in far better condition than the rear

FJRider
24th March 2013, 14:21
Would it be a sensible thing to replace the front?
It is in far better condition than the rear

Post pic's of front and back tyre.

Was the bike just taken home ... or to a place to fix (or replace) the tyre ???

fireball
24th March 2013, 14:40
Was the bike just taken home ... or to a place to fix (or replace) the tyre ???

Bike was taken home, being a Sunday at 630am no where was open....

Wife did soapy water test and there were no bubbles anywhere, not that there is much air left in the tyre

Madness
24th March 2013, 14:44
That front looks pretty fucked as well. In the centre groove you'll notice a raised bit about 6mm long, this is a tread wear indicator and when the tyre wears so it sits flush with the TWI you know it's past its best.

fireball
24th March 2013, 14:49
This month is going to be expensive...
2 new tyres
full service
rego

:facepalm:

FJRider
24th March 2013, 14:49
Bike was taken home, being a Sunday at 630am no where was open....

Wife did soapy water test and there were no bubbles anywhere, not that there is much air left in the tyre

What ... you are in Auckland after all ... :innocent:

A push bike pump will put a bit or air in ...

FJRider
24th March 2013, 15:36
Would it be a sensible thing to replace the front?
It is in far better condition than the rear

Tyre condition is not just about "available" tread depth...

Age has it's effect on all things ... tyres included.

Age degradation shows up in many forms ... :facepalm:

Cracks and wrinkles seldom look good ... (except on me :innocent:)

Gianz
24th March 2013, 17:31
so you commute with a cruiser. why don't you buy a scooter (it will be 1000000times better to commute) and leave the real stuff to someone who knows how to pump a tyre?
I can't believe this thread is real, must be trolling.

FJRider
24th March 2013, 18:21
This month is going to be expensive...
2 new tyres
full service
rego

:facepalm:

Look on the bright side ... going by your past record ... it will be 2018 before the next tyre change ... maybe ... :yes:

Some scooters wont last that long ... :pinch:

And ignore Scooter boy ... he probably doesn't even own a bike ... :laugh:

caspernz
24th March 2013, 19:08
Would it be a sensible thing to replace the front?
It is in far better condition than the rear

Splash out on two new boots and you'll find your bike will feel a whole lot more nimble on its feet :eek5:

McFatty1000
24th March 2013, 21:33
Yeah, I'd change them both (Not just the fact that both are 'well' used') for the confidence in them. What was it like in the wet? :blink:
And don't get a scooter - a 250 twin will be just as if not more economical, prob safer and its not a scooter

hayd3n
24th March 2013, 22:31
just replace the rear tyre asap and save up to replace the front :)

fireball
25th March 2013, 04:38
What was it like in the wet? :blink:



I must admit I have more "oh shit" moments than I used to in the wet, It reminds me I am still alive:whistle:
I'm going to bite the bullet and at least get a new rear, I have been ignoring the obvious for some time by just thinking Auckland roads are shit.....

As for scooter boy, you can shove your conceded opinion up your tight arrogant ass, Scooter, Cruiser, Sports, or Motard a bike is a bike, for me it's a way of life, and I am more of a biker than you will ever be.

307a
25th March 2013, 06:11
Last time I got a flat on my rear I just rode it home, around 40kms.

Sat on the tank most of the way I was on a GSXR1000

fireball
25th March 2013, 06:52
Sat on the tank

:shutup: ouch?

Tagger
25th March 2013, 07:11
It's not a competition, and there are no cool points to win from streching the life of a tyre, it's the only thing that keeps you in contact with the ground...

if i had "oh shit" moments in the rain, the tyres would go the next day.

FJRider
25th March 2013, 08:52
As for scooter boy, you can shove your conceded opinion up your tight arrogant ass, Scooter, Cruiser, Sports, or Motard a bike is a bike, for me it's a way of life, and I am more of a biker than you will ever be.

Well said ....

dangerous
25th March 2013, 08:54
ummm... 31k on the clock still on its 1st set of tyres?

did I read its a 5yr old bike?

asuming so then Id like to see some close up photos of the rubber rings then Id be taking both off and replacing them asap
Tyres have expiry dates used or not, be yours not high performance so not so critacal the basics still apply imho try Z8

EDIT; crap missed a page... seen photos, while the front looks ok it will most likely have no stick left in it, wrecked a bike recently due to a worn 5yr old tyre on a cold day, it was never going to heat up, done its heat cycles.

fireball
25th March 2013, 15:48
Last time I got a flat on my rear I just rode it home, around 40kms.

Sat on the tank most of the way I was on a GSXR1000


It's not a competition, and there are no cool points to win from streching the life of a tyre, it's the only thing that keeps you in contact with the ground...

if i had "oh shit" moments in the rain, the tyres would go the next day.


Some people still live week to week in this economic climate so money to burn is often hard to come by...

FJRider
25th March 2013, 16:01
Some people still live week to week in this economic climate so money to burn is often hard to come by...

Some see their preferred option is staying alive ... and make their priority's to ensure this.

As cool as you believe your motorcycling is .... is death/injury due to lack of tread or low standard tyres high on YOUR priority list .. ???

There are less life threatening options ... like taking the bus. Not as cool maybe ... but you generally help you live longer.

huff3r
25th March 2013, 16:13
Some see their preferred option is staying alive ... and make their priority's to ensure this.

As cool as you believe your motorcycling is .... is death/injury due to lack of tread or low standard tyres high on YOUR priority list .. ???

There are cheaper options ... like taking the bus. Not as cool maybe ... but you generally get to live longer.

You think taking the bus is cheaper than taking a motorcycle? :eek5:

FJRider
25th March 2013, 16:22
You think taking the bus is cheaper than taking a motorcycle? :eek5:

If the tyres on the bike are low on tread or crap ... it may well be. I personally hate the sight of (my own) blood. And we all know about current repair/insurance costs ...

dangerous
25th March 2013, 16:40
Last time I got a flat on my rear I just rode it home, around 40kms.

Sat on the tank most of the way I was on a GSXR1000
same... but I was in the hinter lands out back a surfers and two up on a 97 VFR, tyres are so low profile they hold them selfs up... wasnt the quickest ride Iv done tho

Mom
25th March 2013, 16:54
Some people still live week to week in this economic climate so money to burn is often hard to come by...

Just had a thought, approach a wrecker, they may have a cheaper option for you mate, as in used but servicable. BUT, you must never let your tyres get that low again :spanking: or Mom will come paddle your behind :love:

fireball
25th March 2013, 17:46
Mom will come paddle your behind :love:

Sorry Mom:innocent:
I have been known to throw caution to the wind and take the kiwi attitude of she'll be right, and neglect to think of my own safety.
So tomorrow (if the rear tyre will let me) I am taking The Grim Reaper to get at the very least one new shoe, maybe both depending on fitting and balancing costs. Have decided to go with Metzeler Lasertecs good mid range tyre so I am led to believe.

Mom
25th March 2013, 17:54
Sorry Mom:innocent:
I have been known to throw caution to the wind and take the kiwi attitude of she'll be right, and neglect to think of my own safety.
So tomorrow (if the rear tyre will let me) I am taking The Grim Reaper to get at the very least one new shoe, maybe both depending on fitting and balancing costs. Have decided to go with Metzeler Lasertecs good mid range tyre so I am led to believe.

Good girl :sunny:

Madness
25th March 2013, 17:59
Wife did soapy water test and there were no bubbles anywhere, not that there is much air left in the tyre

I'm confused. Wife?

fireball
25th March 2013, 18:39
I'm confused. Wife?

Lesbians are real... they are everywhere:gob:

Madness
25th March 2013, 18:42
Lesbians are real... they are everywhere:gob:

Halle-fucking-lujah to that sister!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-V3COzeL_tBU/TqKbYEkd-dI/AAAAAAAAAfA/Zst_1RE9Zz4/s1600/lesbians-kissing.jpeg

Tagger
25th March 2013, 20:29
But we like our lesbians alive and unscarred ...


There's a point where you can stretch the life of your tire because it will save money, but at some point you need to give in (and if you can't afford it, leave the bike home).

St_Gabriel
25th March 2013, 20:59
Lesbians are real... they are everywhere:gob:

*mind blown...

Pics or it didnt happen (and im not talking about the tyres)

Gianz
26th March 2013, 07:08
As for scooter boy, you can shove your conceded opinion up your tight arrogant ass, Scooter, Cruiser, Sports, or Motard a bike is a bike, for me it's a way of life, and I am more of a biker than you will ever be.

A way of life but you only commute?
My suggestion for a scooter was in good faith. Scooters are the best thing to commute in the city.
As for who's the bestest biker I don't really give a shit. I know how to pump and check my tires, my oil and go to ride.

fireball
1st April 2013, 10:03
A big thank you to the boys at Botany Honda for the new treads! I love them The Grim Reaper is back to being nimble and light, going to take it out for a group ride tomorrow with a bunch of guys from work to really scrub them in....:scooter:

PrincessBandit
1st April 2013, 16:09
Tyre condition is not just about "available" tread depth...

Age has it's effect on all things ... tyres included.

Age degradation shows up in many forms ... :facepalm:

Cracks and wrinkles seldom look good ... (except on me :innocent:)

Hmmm, yes. I had the same on a car I used to own - tyres looked fine in terms of tread, but after sliding ever so gracefully into the back of another car on a wet surface I decided to replace them. Turns out the guys who replaced them told me I was an accident waiting to happen as the rubber had degraded to the point where, despite what they looked like, they were the equivalent of me being on ice skates.

dangerous
1st April 2013, 19:15
going to take it out for a group ride tomorrow with a bunch of guys from work to really scrub them in....:scooter:LOL... how do you 'scrub in' tyres on a cruser?
Hey the BT45 on the front, great rubber for its price, I had them on my post classic race bikes, never failed me, as for the rear... not sure of what it is but will last a while.

bosslady
1st April 2013, 20:51
Halle-fucking-lujah to that sister!
I see your Lesbians and raise you this

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_F-u95MwMTnQ/TNeIu4flydI/AAAAAAAACpE/hJqhSxt-gso/s1600/MenKissing1.jpg#two%20men%20kissing

FJRider
3rd April 2013, 17:14
LOL... how do you 'scrub in' tyres on a cruser?


Carefully ... ??? :innocent:

Must be quick to do ... as they only use half the tread pattern. Her old tyre still had unused original tread on it. (after 30,000 km's) :yes:

Will the new tyres match that ... :laugh: time will tell.

Richard Mc F
9th April 2013, 11:03
LOL... how do you 'scrub in' tyres on a cruser?
Hey the BT45 on the front, great rubber for its price, I had them on my post classic race bikes, never failed me, as for the rear... not sure of what it is but will last a while.

I think you will find taht it is a metzler lasertech, B45s are great tyres but do not look like that

fireball
15th April 2013, 03:35
Will the new tyres match that ... :laugh: time will tell.

I will get back to you on that one! There is some riding to be done!:scooter: