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cfxjason
24th March 2013, 20:02
hey there fellas are air bag jackets good or bad if good,wat ones...oh and is there any newbe motard riders in chch

YellowDog
24th March 2013, 20:08
Look at YouTube for some funny videos.

You need a jacket with body armour regardless. What the air jackets offer is by no means a replacement :no:

cfxjason
24th March 2013, 20:13
cheers at the moment on the top half im wearing a full body Armour pressure suit including a back brace,would the air bag be better than that.....sorry im a newbie :yes:.

YellowDog
25th March 2013, 13:04
cheers at the moment on the top half im wearing a full body Armour pressure suit including a back brace,would the air bag be better than that.....sorry im a newbie :yes:.

I guess it all depends on what kind of accident you plan on having :crazy: But I'd say No. What you have is what you need.

Road kill
25th March 2013, 15:54
Could be interesting if you hit a bird or small stone at speed.:eek5:
I saw them used in speedway an they seemed to work well.

R-Soul
25th March 2013, 16:07
Could be interesting if you hit a bird or small stone at speed.:eek5:
I saw them used in speedway an they seemed to work well.


hehe the mental image of that was good -

Noises involved:

*thwack*
POOF!
screeaaaach
thud...

Mushu
26th March 2013, 12:52
From what I have seen they inflate when you get separated from the bike, but as far as I can tell they only protect you from the impact with the ground, doesn't seem any better than wearing good armor. Looks to me like they are designed for track use and do very little to protect against the kind if impact you'd be likely to experience on the road.

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cfxjason
28th March 2013, 08:21
cheers fellas

haydes55
28th March 2013, 09:40
Unlike these experts, I actually joined own and wear an air jacket. (Side note holy shit a gt40 just drove past!:woohoo:)

Anyway my air jacket is a $1200 point two jacket. Although the airbag will only inflate once I'm separated from the bike, the jacket has got very good thick padding all over and full back coverage. The tag actually classifies the jacket as a grade 2 back protector. Even if you crash without the airbag inflating, it will still protect you.

The negatives, gas canisters will set you back $40 per crash. You need a roomy jacket to allow for inflation. I can't find a jacket with good fitting arms and room in the chest.

Paul in NZ
28th March 2013, 10:03
The negatives, gas canisters will set you back $40 per crash. .


Thats inflation for you.....

Zedder
28th March 2013, 10:15
Thats inflation for you.....

Let's hope it doesn't get blown out of proportion...

AllanB
28th March 2013, 11:38
My 30 year old leathers are still doing fine. Mind you I have not crash tested them in 20 years!!!!! I did have a leather specialist check the stitching a couple years back to ensure it was still good. No stinken body armour in thoses days ........ one day I'll be able to afford some fancy new gear (not at $1200 though!!!!!!).

It does occur to me that ACC OWE me a fuck load of hospital time for all the fees I have paid within my rego ............ (stir the big stick)

haydes55
28th March 2013, 19:00
Well leathers may save your skin but I've seen first hand some very fast (100km/h speeds) crashes into a solid wall that has broken bones and out people out of racing not only for the day but for several meetings. Then I've seen about 6 similar crashes with the air vests and the rider has been back in the restart or next race.

GrayWolf
29th March 2013, 19:37
Well leathers may save your skin but I've seen first hand some very fast (100km/h speeds) crashes into a solid wall that has broken bones and out people out of racing not only for the day but for several meetings. Then I've seen about 6 similar crashes with the air vests and the rider has been back in the restart or next race.

This is no different to the new 'improved' safety features and electronics in cars... at the end of the day it is the TYPE of impact, and against WHAT you impact that is going to decide if you 'walk away' or not. yes like a car, anti lock brakes, traction control all help prevent loss of control. Seat belts, side intrusion beams, crumple zones, collapse-able steering column's etc reduce physical damage, but they all have limitations to how much they can protect you. The other side of this coin is wih the 'perceived' reduction of risk and danger, people drive/ride more aggressively than they may otherwise have without these 'life saving' inventions.
The same can be said for absorbent padding, armour, protectors and now air jackets for Motorcyclists... they may give improved protection, but we now travel on machines that on the road reach what used to be the domain of professional race bikes. This somewhat more than mitigates the 'improved' safety equipment. What we do need is a new 'improved' rider who is capable of operating such equipment. That's the biggest safety device that could be invented. maybe in 5-10,000 years??

Marmoot
29th March 2013, 22:44
I've broken collar bone, and I've lost mates from broken necks due to impacts.
If I could get an airbag suit, I would. Currently saving up for one.

Dainese has D-Air system that is available for track as well as street (different systems), while Alpinestars are just releasing their Tech-Air airbag system mostly for the track. They are expensive though, I think Dainese is about US$4.5k, and Alpinestars one is about US$6k. Their airbags are designed mostly for neck and collarbone+shoulder protection. Internal organs are still dependant on good armour.
Both uses myriads of sensors and fuzzy logic that senses a crash. No cable system whatsoever.

RS-Taichi has GMX airbag jacket or suit (about US$900), but requires cable attachment to the bike that senses bike-rider separation. A more simplistic approach that tend to be quite humorous if you happen to forget you have that when dismounting after parking the bike.

I think there are a few other systems out there that are more on the rudimentary level.