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FlangMasterJ
16th August 2005, 21:35
I'm just curious as to whom these pricks are and where they are taking these bikes?

Someone must know something. NZ isn't exactly a large place.

I'm still reeling from the loss of my bike and still can't get my head around how someone can just take a motorcycle in broad daylight without anyone noticing.

I'm not the only one on KB who's had their pride and joy stolen from them.

I just want to know from fellow KB'ers what info they have regarding motorcycle theft in NZ and what's being done about it.


Here's a link to my stolen bike:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=220893#post220893

The sooner we nail these assholes the better! :ar15:


Cheers team.

Hitcher
16th August 2005, 21:47
The sooner we nail these assholes the better!
While I agree with the sentiment, around here we nail arseholes.

Change the Government. Party vote for the BDOTGNZA.

Smorg
16th August 2005, 21:59
Surely it has to be planned i mean its not like nicking a cage you cant just jump on and ride off down the road for starters to be as unnoticable as possible you would need to be carrying round a helmet planning to steal it so a bit of research must go into it as well

thehollowmen
16th August 2005, 22:01
exactly.

Might pay to canvas local meetings and bigger events and look for stolen bikes... especially how surrounding people wouldn't be in a good mood with the recipient of the stolen vehicle... (bring your own lynch mob? hell it is already provided...)

Motu
16th August 2005, 22:17
There's a shit load of dirt bikes stolen,some right out of dealers showrooms.No rego,no rego papers....But surely at some big trail ride a bike would be recognised.There must be a big underground movement of bikes and parts....and people turning a blind eye - appathy again.

Um,I can talk - another me,from an earlier time when I rode bikes from another world.....you didn't ask where the parts came from,everyone had parts,they changed hands constantly,it was highly likely you were buying parts that were stolen at some stage,but not from the guy you got them off,or from the guy he got them off....like where do you draw the line??

TwoSeven
16th August 2005, 22:19
It takes about 30 secs to nick a bike. Usual method is for about 4 people to pick it up and put it in a van.

Timber020
16th August 2005, 22:20
Stolen road bikes sometimes become racebikes, or they are broken up and sold to wreckers or privately on sites such as trademe. The fairings and lights and sticky out bits sell like hotcakes to the "I binned by bike" crowd. Then the other bits move a little slower. Engines will either be broken up for parts or end up in some other bike.

As for dirtbikes, they dissappear like a US dollar bill on the floor of the national party meeting. Quads are sold, sometimes for dope plot checking (found a few of these) or fishing or hunting bikes. Others end up in the hands of unknowing farmers or recreation users. Motocross bikes are nearly untraceble. I have owned dozens of dirtbikes and am quite confident that they came from legit guys, but do I really know there history?

How many bike owners have had the numbers of their bikes checked? Crap makes me think now.........

raster
16th August 2005, 22:43
Same with diggers, they're now putting GPS systems in them, found several on a boat half way to china.
My brother has had one stollen and knows of 4 others, they just dissappear. :oi-grr:

FlangMasterJ
16th August 2005, 22:43
Surely it has to be planned i mean its not like nicking a cage you cant just jump on and ride off down the road for starters to be as unnoticable as possible you would need to be carrying round a helmet planning to steal it so a bit of research must go into it as well

I'm sure it's alot more sophisticated. A guy walking around with a helmet and no bike is pretty obvious. They're obviously just shifting the bikes into neutral, lifting the front wheel up and wheeling them into a tinted van. That's why I always get suspicious and paranoid when I see a van with rear tints.

I would love to setup a sting and catch the bastards in the act. Once we had one of them we would most certainly find out where the bikes are going (pliers and a blow torch would do the trick). :devil2:

Pixie
16th August 2005, 23:16
Once we had one of them we would most certainly find out where the bikes are going (pliers and a blow torch would do the trick). :devil2:
Yeah...Get mediocre on their ass!!

SARGE
16th August 2005, 23:21
exactly.

Might pay to canvas local meetings and bigger events and look for stolen bikes... especially how surrounding people wouldn't be in a good mood with the recipient of the stolen vehicle... (bring your own lynch mob? hell it is already provided...)


alot of bikes are traded for drugs.. i had a friend of mine lose her R1 and have it turn up in a P- lab raid a few weeks later.. looking like it had ben through the woodhill forest..

Waylander
16th August 2005, 23:23
I would love to setup a sting and catch the bastards in the act. Once we had one of them we would most certainly find out where the bikes are going (pliers and a blow torch would do the trick). :devil2:
Why bother with torture? Add a piece of steak and a popsickle to that. 'Tis all you need.

Wolf
16th August 2005, 23:28
Why bother with torture? Add a piece of steak and a popsickle to that. 'Tis all you need.
Doesn't work if they've also seen The Punisher - best to tie their hands out in front of them and apply the blow torch so they can see and smell the buggers cooking...

Waylander
16th August 2005, 23:30
Doesn't work if they've also seen The Punisher - best to tie their hands out in front of them and apply the blow torch so they can see and smell the buggers cooking...
Spoilsport....:motu:

Dadpole
16th August 2005, 23:39
Yeah...Get mediocre on their ass!!

Better worry about Hitcher getting medieval on your arse

Slingshot
17th August 2005, 00:05
While I agree with the sentiment, around here we nail arseholes.

Speak for yourself....you won't catch me nailing assholes or arseholes!!!

placidfemme
17th August 2005, 07:27
My 2 cents: The thieves could be drug dealers (I had a drug dealer tell me he could get me anything for bike real cheap but couldn't tell me where he would get it from...). Bastards. I hope you get your bike back mate!

Lou Girardin
17th August 2005, 08:13
I'm sure it's alot more sophisticated. A guy walking around with a helmet and no bike is pretty obvious. :devil2:

So, how often have you been questioned by the cops when you're walking around with a helmet?

FlangMasterJ
17th August 2005, 08:31
So, how often have you been questioned by the cops when you're walking around with a helmet?

I don't walk around with helmets!

parsley
17th August 2005, 09:04
I'm sure it's alot more sophisticated. A guy walking around with a helmet and no bike is pretty obvious.
But is it? I do this all the time if I've popped into town for some shopping. In fact it's probably less obvious if a guy with a helmet walks up to a bike, fiddles with it for a bit then jumps on and rides off.

Wolf
17th August 2005, 09:13
Better worry about Hitcher getting medieval on your arse
As in setting up a Market Economy and a three-field crop rotation system?

NC
17th August 2005, 09:16
My 2 cents: The thieves could be drug dealers (I had a drug dealer tell me he could get me anything for bike real cheap but couldn't tell me where he would get it from...). Bastards. I hope you get your bike back mate!
Oh drugies are so bad arse

Smorg
17th August 2005, 09:27
Oh drugies are so bad arse

So am i! ithink

NC
17th August 2005, 09:28
So am i! ithink
:psst: Um you're norty


As long as the demand is there, they will supply.

750Y
17th August 2005, 09:30
The majority of bikes stolen are opportunistic thefts. The guys that are stealing them are doing it on a regular basis. They will drive through town scoping out bikes & may do regular drive by's to scope targeted bikes.. They use a van with an old mattress/es in the back to minimise damage. some use a skateboard to roll the front if a bike has a disc lock & there's only 2 of them. It takes less than a minute & they're gone...They generally work in teams. They have a large network of associates & contacts readily willing to pay for them(at bargain prices of course) & some will then dismantle them for sale but many will conceal their identity by filing off numbers etc. & use them for a little while before flicking them off to their dodgy mates. the old gsxr engines used to be a hot item with the speedway crowd(the dodgy ones) who would cut the box off(the bit with the no.s on it) or simply raid them for the internals to support their race program. they ask no questions and are only too happy to receive a bargain. Occasionally bikes are stolen to order because some dick has trashed his.
There is a market for cheap parts & the theives know it. what is not needed is generally dumped in the water or buried.
dirtbikes/quads end up being used on the beach or farm.
This is what I have found out through my enquiries..

ManDownUnder
17th August 2005, 09:32
... around here we nail arseholes....

errr I didn't think you were that way inclined... but I prefer women myself...

(BACKS TO THE WALLS BOYS :rofl: )

Sorry Hitcher - you opened yourself up for that one LMAO!

NC
17th August 2005, 09:37
Sorry Hitcher - you opened yourself up for that one LMAO!
:oi-grr: :puke: :killingme

ManDownUnder
17th August 2005, 09:38
As for the bike thieves... yeah not good. We used to have someone here from that GPS mapping jobbie thing (jrandom) - wonder what technology is out there to track 'em if/when they get nicked?

Sniper
17th August 2005, 09:40
Sorry Hitcher - you opened yourself up for that one LMAO!

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

F5 Dave
17th August 2005, 10:04
Yeah I’ve had 2 dirt-bikes stolen. First one a couple of decades ago was from a garage in Wainui, it was a PE175 (don't laugh it was hot shit back then, well ok, maybe warm shit. . . Ok it was just shit, but we were 16) I went halves with a friend cause neither of us could afford it outright. Was gutted, only rode it once. Wish we hadn’t kept it at his place, just no one had trailers (or cars) to move it around.

Next one more recently was a watercooled DT200 I had lent to a mate & was in his van along with his YZ. He should have parked it back in the garage.

A friend who was off work heard some bikes being ridden down nearby, recognised my DT & called the cops, then collared the kids riding it. They were given it by some S’head (they no doubt helped) but the kids fingered this other guy so our two guys got the YZ as well (after a lot of shagging around they had to deal with the crim, Police wouldn’t act). This guy was supposedly heading for jail for other more serious contributions to society.

There is no justice & the law system isn’t capable or willing to do squat. I suspect any decent dirtbikes are shipped to another major city & sold to unsuspecting punters for real prices so no one suspects.

I curse the bastards everytime moving bikes around the garage is such a pain with a multitude of cables chains & locks, but if they are all connected to something it makes the job a lot harder for them.

Problem with dirt-bikes is you have to wash them, if you live on a main street then people will know you have them.

Any bleeding heart liberal who claims that jail sentences don’t stop people offending & it is so expensive to keep someone in jail, smack them around the head with a big fish (maybe it will teach them math). These are the dicks who keep it so the crims know they can keep re-offending with little consequence.

Dadpole
17th August 2005, 11:57
As in setting up a Market Economy and a three-field crop rotation system?

And that would really make your eyes water

F5 Dave. If it was around 82 - 83 I found it. Back of Parkway in the swamp that was there. Was ploughing through in the Landrover and it got wedged under the front diff. It was a total wreck before I ran it over, and must have been dumped there after being thrashed to death. A lot of trail bikes were stolen and hidden up the firebreaks back then

F5 Dave
17th August 2005, 12:11
By golly I hope you have insurance! :sherlock:

Hitcher
17th August 2005, 12:55
Yeah...Get mediocre on their ass!!
Tsk tsk tsk...

Lou Girardin
17th August 2005, 13:02
errr I didn't think you were that way inclined... but I prefer women myself...
!

It's not gender exclusive MDU :buggerd:

Storm
17th August 2005, 15:05
Y'all realise that one day Mr H will snap- someone will make that A&* comment one time too many and then the gun will be loaded and the day of purification will come. So, in order to stop the deaths of most of the newsreaders, because, lets face it, those uselss twits cant pronounce anything right, and various others, we should all just use the word "buttocks" Or even butt.

"Wont somebody think of the children" - Simpsons





And that, ladies and gentlemen (and various other KB types) is my 2p

Dadpole
18th August 2005, 22:37
By golly I hope you have insurance! :sherlock:

No damage to the Landie. Take more than a PE to stop one of them. It must have been totally under the surface, as I saw nothing, then CRASH, GRIND and shit a brick. :Oops:

hondacmx450
19th August 2005, 09:41
in the old days you used to hang hourse theves do the same to the ppl doing this

F5 Dave
19th August 2005, 09:43
No damage to the Landie. Take more than a PE to stop one of them. It must have been totally under the surface, as I saw nothing, then CRASH, GRIND and shit a brick. :Oops:

I was talking about for me you cheeky blighter. :nono:

Now let’s see,. . . 1980 PE175T in previously pristine condition. Stored in a protective brown gel coating.

. . . Hmm, classic status, increased value from period twin-shock racing class.

Alternative transport costs.
Anguish.
Loss of sexual pleasure.
Strong New Zealand $
Increasing petrol costs.

I’d say I’m in for a pretty packet. :clap:

Pixie
19th August 2005, 11:10
I curse the bastards everytime moving bikes around the garage is such a pain with a multitude of cables chains & locks, but if they are all connected to something it makes the job a lot harder for them.

.
You only need 1 cable,clipped to all the bikes in your gargre and plugged into a handy power point.

PS my previous post containing the word ASS ...the dude in Pulp Fiction who originated the phrase didn't say arse.
Thought the malapropism was amusing :yawn: