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[CHOPPA]

I looked at all the options and Kiwibiker was at the very top of my list of places I thought we could find potential sponsors and a good old positive kiwi attitude :crazy:


My ploy so far to get people behind this project is that I have managed to get the one and only Mr Craig Shirriffs on board! The Shirriff and I are planning an all out team Kiwi attack on the Formula Xtreme 500, $100000 winner takes all Endurance Race to be held at Sydney Motorsports Park in November.

The entire event is a massive undertaking. M1 Motorsport director Robert Ramshaw has agreed to supply us with equipment and the 2012 BMW S1000RR that I campaigned throughout the 2013 NZSBK national series.


Craig and I have decided that just to have the opportunity to race at such a prestigious event is reward enough in itself so if we were to win we will be donating all the prize money back to the people who have stepped up to support us at this event.


We need to raise $25000 to compete at this event.


If we win we will be giving back $4 for every $1 donated


Craig and I are 2 of New Zealands top Superbike riders. With the entrys limited to 50 teams and the share nature of endurance racing, the odds are not that bad!

Its not often you get a chance to bet on local motorcycle racing....

We are not accepting any money as yet until we can confirm our entry and all our ducks are in a row but you are the harshest of critics so it will be interesting to hear your thoughts before we float this idea to a larger audience

http://www.formula-xtreme.com.au/xtremema.nsf/6e7929353ac5e7c2ca256fe8007b498c/0e69edf205e6b97dca257a8700326cd7?OpenDocument

[busadayz]

I looked at all the options and Kiwibiker was at the very top of my list of places I thought we could find potential sponsors and a good old positive kiwi attitude :crazy:


My ploy so far to get people behind this project is that I have managed to get the one and only Mr Craig Shirriffs on board! The Shirriff and I are planning an all out team Kiwi attack on the Formula Xtreme 500, $100000 winner takes all Endurance Race to be held at Sydney Motorsports Park in November.

The entire event is a massive undertaking. M1 Motorsport director Robert Ramshaw has agreed to supply us with equipment and the 2012 BMW S1000RR that I campaigned throughout the 2013 NZSBK national series.


Craig and I have decided that just to have the opportunity to race at such a prestigious event is reward enough in itself so if we were to win we will be donating all the prize money back to the people who have stepped up to support us at this event.


We need to raise $25000 to compete at this event so we will be selling 25 'shares' at the value of $1000 each ($25000 Total)


If we win we will be giving back $4000 for every share purchased!


Craig and I are 2 of New Zealands top Superbike riders. With the entrys limited to 50 teams and the share nature of endurance racing, the odds are not that bad!

Its not often you get a chance to bet on local motorcycle racing....

We are not accepting any money as yet until we can confirm our entry and all our ducks are in a row but you are the harshest of critics so it will be interesting to hear your thoughts before we float this idea to a larger audience

http://www.formula-xtreme.com.au/xtremema.nsf/6e7929353ac5e7c2ca256fe8007b498c/0e69edf205e6b97dca257a8700326cd7?OpenDocument



Good on you both, hope it works out for you.
Sorry cant help out with anything except words of encouragement.http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/images/icons/icon14.png

[shoutout]

I looked at all the options and Kiwibiker was at the very top of my list of places I thought we could find potential sponsors and a good old positive kiwi attitude :crazy:


My ploy so far to get people behind this project is that I have managed to get the one and only Mr Craig Shirriffs on board! The Shirriff and I are planning an all out team Kiwi attack on the Formula Xtreme 500, $100000 winner takes all Endurance Race to be held at Sydney Motorsports Park in November.

The entire event is a massive undertaking. M1 Motorsport director Robert Ramshaw has agreed to supply us with equipment and the 2012 BMW S1000RR that I campaigned throughout the 2013 NZSBK national series.


Craig and I have decided that just to have the opportunity to race at such a prestigious event is reward enough in itself so if we were to win we will be donating all the prize money back to the people who have stepped up to support us at this event.


We need to raise $25000 to compete at this event so we will be selling 25 'shares' at the value of $1000 each ($25000 Total)


If we win we will be giving back $4000 for every share purchased!


Craig and I are 2 of New Zealands top Superbike riders. With the entrys limited to 50 teams and the share nature of endurance racing, the odds are not that bad!

Its not often you get a chance to bet on local motorcycle racing....

We are not accepting any money as yet until we can confirm our entry and all our ducks are in a row but you are the harshest of critics so it will be interesting to hear your thoughts before we float this idea to a larger audience

http://www.formula-xtreme.com.au/xtremema.nsf/6e7929353ac5e7c2ca256fe8007b498c/0e69edf205e6b97dca257a8700326cd7?OpenDocument

Goodluck guys

[merv]

Why limit the offer to 25 shares, perhaps in these tough times it might be better to sell more shares at a lower price - you might get more interest at $250 each than at $1,000 each for example?

[tail_end_charlie]

Why limit the offer to 25 shares, perhaps in these tough times it might be better to sell more shares at a lower price - you might get more interest at $250 each than at $1,000 each for example?

Merv has a point there, I would be much more willing to throw in $250 than a grand.................that grand has to pay for my Cali SBK school levels. :yes:



"To be eligible to enter the 500 kilometre race domestic competitors will need to have competed in at least three rounds of the Australian FX-Superbike Championship Sprint Series in any class and or be a returning ex-pat racer or an international competitor wanting to team up with a local FX-Superbike racer. Teams will be limited to two competitors per bike and like with the V8 Bathurst Race team mates who both compete in the FX-Superbike class won’t be able to team up on the same bike."

So which of these applies?

[Edbear]

Fabulous idea! Should approach local media for interest/sponsorship too. I'll run it by my contacts but I'd definitely be interested in sponsoring the effort. :rockon:

[CHOPPA]

Hey guys, thank you for the support!

Some very good ideas actually...

It would mean a tad more book keeping but we could actually say for every $1 donated if we win will return $4 you can donate as much or as little as you choose

I would have to word it correctly so it doesnt look like im running an illegal gambling operation but basically the bet would be on Team Kiwi to win paying odds at 4 to 1

[Maha]

''If we win we will be giving back $4 for every $1 donated''

You are after $25,000 in donations to enter? .. correct?
And if you win, you will give back 4-1 odds? all $25,000 X 4?..that would be a total of the $100,000 in winnings....is that correct?

If I donate $500 and you win, I will receive $2,000?
Perhaps 'double your money' would have been the better odds, incase you win.

[Str8 Jacket]

Awesome idea guys and I hope it works out for ya'll.

Just one question though - have you checked out the legality of your "plan"?

[quickbuck]

''If we win we will be giving back $4 for every $1 donated''

You are after $25,000 in donations to enter? .. correct?
And if you win, you will give back 4-1 odds?..that would be a total of the $100,000 in winnings....is that correct?

If I donate $500 and you win, I will receive $2,000?
Perhaps 'double your money' would have been the better odds, incase you win.

So, if you get $50000 in donations you will be paying out $200000 if you win?
I can see you going broke here Choppa?
Or, am I missing something here?

[Maha]

So, if you get $50000 in donations you will be paying out $200000 if you win?
I can see you going broke here Choppa?
Or, am I missing something here?

They are probably just after the entry fee, winning is not really a reality....possibly? cos 4-1 odds in favour is pretty good.

[budda]

Gotta love the maths on this thread ............

[CHOPPA]

''If we win we will be giving back $4 for every $1 donated''

You are after $25,000 in donations to enter? .. correct?
And if you win, you will give back 4-1 odds?..that would be a total of the $100,000 in winnings....is that correct?

If I donate $500 and you win, I will receive $2,000?
Perhaps 'double your money' would have been the better odds, incase you win.

That would be better for us but not as much of an incentive for people to put $$ in. Craig and I will be happy to just have the opportunity to race the event. We will cry if we win and give away all the money but thats the way it goes



Awesome idea guys and I hope it works out for ya'll.

Just one question though - have you checked out the legality of your "plan"?

Yup its all legit. Donations and prize money



So, if you get $50000 in donations you will be paying out $200000 if you win?
I can see you going broke here Choppa?
Or, am I missing something here?


Yeah mate you have, we 'only' need to raise $25000. We wont be offering this deal to anyone after we have raised the money however if you want to put more money in it will be happily received to go toward the other races I will be doing in OZZY



They are probably just after the entry fee, winning is not really a reality....possibly? cos 4-1 odds in favour is pretty good.

Yes, we are not trying to make money just cover expenses. Those odds are not calculated on our chance of actually winning, they are calcuted on prizemoney / expenses.

Craig and I have a very good shot at winning. We will be able to consistantly lap as quickly as anyone on the track in the race and the given there is only 50 bikes and the nature of endurance racing our odds are good


Gotta love the maths on this thread ............

:rolleyes:

[Maha]

So in effect, you are asking the public at large to fund something you otherwise can't afford to do?
Which is all well and good, I get that. What I don't get though, is the 1-50 odds on offer at a set rate of 4 X the original investment/donation.
Technically, it is not a ''donation'' if you're offering 4 X the money back...it's a short term investment...best get that clarified.

You may need to reword whats on offer. Just saying, this kind of thing has been tried a couple of times on here over the years and has yet to work out.
What you are doing is to be commended and all the best with that.

[quickbuck]

Yeah mate you have, we 'only' need to raise $25000. We wont be offering this deal to anyone after we have raised the money however if you want to put more money in it will be happily received to go toward the other races I will be doing in OZZY





Ah, I see.......
Fair enough.

[sharp2183]

What I don't get though, is the 1-50 odds on offer at a set rate of 4 X the original investment/donation.
Technically, it is not a ''donation'' if you're offering 4 X the money back...it's a short term investment...best get that clarified.

That's probably the difference between a bet and a donation in this case. A bet would have a return based on the odds of winning. You're not betting here.

Seems pretty simple to me, you donate some cash and if they win they will donate it back plus a little (or a lot). It would be best not to look at it as a bet I reckon.

[Str8 Jacket]

That's probably the difference between a bet and a donation in this case. A bet would have a return based on the odds of winning. You're not betting here.

Seems pretty simple to me, you donate some cash and if they win they will donate it back plus a little (or a lot). It would be best not to look at it as a bet I reckon.

That's how I see it. It's sponsorship first and foremost and if they do succeed then they're 'paying back' those that supported them. I have seen people give much more money for absolutely no chance of any return let alone gaining on it in motorcycle racing in NZ so I think it's a brilliant idea. Shame I am not in a position to help as I reckon they could do well!

[Maha]

Donation by definition is...

'Donations are given without return consideration. This lack of return consideration means that, in common law, an agreement to make a donation is an "imperfect contract void for want of consideration." Only when the donation is actually made does it acquire legal status as a transfer or property. civil law jurisdictions, on the contrary, donations are valid contracts, though they may require some extra formalities, such as being done in writing.'

Perhaps Sponsership is the better word to use?

[Madness]

I reckon they could do well!

Yeah but you also reckoned Craig was going to win the Nats this year. Just saying :innocent:

[Pumba]

...Perhaps Sponsership is the better word to use?

I would use investment with a 1 in 50 chance of return (well better than Lotto)

Anyway love the idea and I hope you both can get the money together to compete.

[Maido]

Donation by definition is...

'Donations are given without return consideration. This lack of return consideration means that, in common law, an agreement to make a donation is an "imperfect contract void for want of consideration." Only when the donation is actually made does it acquire legal status as a transfer or property. civil law jurisdictions, on the contrary, donations are valid contracts, though they may require some extra formalities, such as being done in writing.'

Perhaps Sponsership is the better word to use?

let it go man.

I will put up a hundy if it goes through. Sorry its not much but things are tight. Good on you for at least testing the waters.

[wharfy]

An opinion from a lawyer could be worth the investment.
I haven't got a grand to spare in but hey, if you are selling T-shirts I'll be in for a couple :)
I reckon you've a good chance, you owned the 3 hour at Taupo !

:niceone:

[Dogboy900]

Good luck guys.
Keep us posted on what donation format you decide, like others here I can't afford $1K but would be nice to give something to the effort.

[wayne]

very good idea,
check overseas riders deal , but i pay $1000 to see craig and you and hopefully ozzy to set the bike up, sure aussies hard to beat but , they cant team ride together ...........
keep us all updated

[CHOPPA]

very good idea,
check overseas riders deal , but i pay $1000 to see craig and you and hopefully ozzy to set the bike up, sure aussies hard to beat but , they cant team ride together ...........
keep us all updated

Your on mate!

[Clivoris]

Brilliant idea. Have you thought about pledgeme/crowd funding as an option?

[CHOPPA]

Brilliant idea. Have you thought about pledgeme/crowd funding as an option?

I have thought about Pledge Me but for this scheme I think from the response I have had that it will actually be achievable just through the regular channels plus they take a commission I believe...

Its also been a bit raped with bike rider stuff so I need fresh ideas for people to share their hard earnt $$

Craig is on the team too and every one loves him!

[ducatilover]

I'll donate what I can, unless the semantics destroy this cool idea Sent from a place of generosity and tits

[Genestho]

Keen to support this campaign, Chops!

You smashed it in the 09 BADD Endurance Race, Craig's a legend and his come back this year has been fierce!

The competition will be good for you and you've got a great Manager, who's excellent support!

:headbang:

[scrivy]

Craig is on the team too and every one loves him!

So.... you're going for the Gay aspect? :lol:

Or..... how about approaching Higgins or Fultons......... They should pay up, given how much grading work they've had to do after Craigs been at a track....... :shutup::dodge: He single handedly keeps them in profit.....

[Tony.OK]

So.... you're going for the Gay aspect? :lol:



Ah its no longer "two girls one cup".......its ........"two boys one BMW"

Hey Chop does that money for tyres I gave ya count? :rolleyes:
If I had a spare K I'd be happy to offer for this campaign.

[jellywrestler]

hey choppa, what's the go with post five in this thread, you doing some FX rounds as well?

[CHOPPA]

hey choppa, what's the go with post five in this thread, you doing some FX rounds as well?

Yeah mate, planning on doing the following....

June 14-16 ASBK Series Queensland $6000
Aug 1-4 ASBK Series Eastern Creek $6000
Aug 31-1 PRR Series Phillip Island $5000
Sept Test FX-500 Eastern Creek $3000
October 4-6 ASBK Series Phillip Island $6000
October 17-20 Moto GP Phillip Island $6000
November 15-16 FX-500 Eastern Creek $22000
Total $54000

[Deano]

Yeah mate, planning on doing the following....

June 14-16 ASBK Series Queensland $6000
Aug 1-4 ASBK Series Eastern Creek $6000
Aug 31-1 PRR Series Phillip Island $5000
Sept Test FX-500 Eastern Creek $3000
October 4-6 ASBK Series Phillip Island $6000
October 17-20 Moto GP Phillip Island $6000
November 15-16 FX-500 Eastern Creek $22000
Total $54000

So do they have a pro twin class...........$12k ? bwahahahaha

[wayne]

sloan i hope your going to us dunlops ?

[CHOPPA]

sloan i hope your going to us dunlops ?

Haha no the new Pirellis are very good. Allerton seems to be doing well on them

[CHOPPA]

We have a spot saved for us so it is just a matter of completing the entry form now and raising some money!

The team have just purchased a 2012 BMW S1000RR that is located in Sydney.

We also had a surprise call from Mr John Hepburn who has offered to be our Crew Chief!!

Keep an eye out for the fundraising efforts guys. I havnt decided on a final repayment to sponsors if we win but it will be either $1-$3 or $1-$4. It might be different for different contributions but keep your eyes peeled because I know how keen everyone is to start giving away money :msn-wink:

[sinfull]

I'm in !

If you don't find the 25 full share punters, put me down for a 1/4 share Chop

[jellywrestler]

We also had a surprise call from Mr John Hepburn who has offered to be our Crew Chief!!

you'd find few if any more dedicated people to help ya in this country than Johnny the Rat, he'll also save a fortune with duty free ciggies each time he comes back into the country...

[suzuki21]

you'd find few if any more dedicated people to help ya in this country than Johnny the Rat, he'll also save a fortune with duty free ciggies each time he comes back into the country...

Too right Spyda, Johhny is the man.

[Edbear]

People are usually keen to support genuine talent and NZ has its share of genuinely world class riders! I'm sure everyone would be keen to contribute whether they could actually afford to or not. Moral support is also important.

I will be happy to help so as soon as you get the sponsorship package sorted I can let you know what I can do.

[CHOPPA]

People are usually keen to support genuine talent and NZ has its share of genuinely world class riders! I'm sure everyone would be keen to contribute whether they could actually afford to or not. Moral support is also important.

I will be happy to help so as soon as you get the sponsorship package sorted I can let you know what I can do.

Yes mate I have been extremely pleased with the positive support we have received. Fortunately Moggy and M1 Motorsport LTD are right behind the project so everything will be well organised financially.

I will be doing my own racing in Australia this year as well which is a whole different set of fundraising that I have been concentrating on and im not sure what it is but it must be something in our transtasmen rivalry that gets people excited about helping.

I have been making some great contacts in Australia and if there are any other Kiwis that are interested in getting to some Australia events then get in touch with me because there is a lot I can do to help

[CHOPPA]

http://www.facebook.com/kiwitechteam?fref=ts

[gixerracer]

Yes mate I have been extremely pleased with the positive support we have received. Fortunately Moggy and M1 Motorsport LTD are right behind the project so everything will be well organised financially.

I will be doing my own racing in Australia this year as well which is a whole different set of fundraising that I have been concentrating on and im not sure what it is but it must be something in our transtasmen rivalry that gets people excited about helping.

I have been making some great contacts in Australia and if there are any other Kiwis that are interested in getting to some Australia events then get in touch with me because there is a lot I can do to help

Ive just been offered a full yoshimura spec GSXR 1000 in Oztralia so now I need 6 or 7k per round haha. Were not team mates till november wright?

[CHOPPA]

Ive just been offered a full yoshimura spec GSXR 1000 in Oztralia so now I need 6 or 7k per round haha. Were not team mates till november wright?

Haha your on!

[sinfull]

Ive just been offered a full yoshimura spec GSXR 1000 in Oztralia so now I need 6 or 7k per round haha. Were not team mates till november wright?


Haha your on!

Goood shit !

[CHOPPA]

Thanks to those of you that have come forward already! We are on our way :)

Check out kiwitechteam.com to keep track of our progress :)

Just had some good news come through as well....

http://www.cycleonline.com.au/2013/05/02/yamaha-racing-team-confirms-it-will-not-contest-2013-fx-500/