Pannier key barrels?

[Maha]

With the new bike came four spare pannier keys and one spare key barrel.
Now there’s a better than even chance that, while riding in the rain, water will get into the pannier key barrels. I guess that with time, it is safe to assume that a key barrel may need replacing because of rust…perhaps? Is there a spray of sorts that can be/is used safely in such a situation?

Top box is not such a concern, the key barrel is on the side rather than on the top like the panniers.

[Gremlin]

I assume it's Givi panniers?

They do have that sliding catch over the top, but really, I CRC them occasionally and it makes them happy.

Only replaced one lock on a piece of Givi luggage in years of riding... they're good stuff.

[Daffyd]

A very light squirt of WD40 every 2-3 months.

[Madness]

Unobtanium works best. WD-40 is probably quite acceptable also.

[FJRider]

Silicone spray works well. But as Gremlin says ... it is not an issue.

I've had Givi panniers on my FJ for six years (even in west coast rain) ... and no hint of issues.

[nzspokes]

Graphite powder for locks, WD40 etc will attract dust and jam it up.

[Madness]

Graphite powder for locks, WD40 etc will attract dust and jam it up.

Usually graphite is the best for locks but it tends to wash out with water, unlike WD-40.

[carburator]

rem dry lube..

works on givi boxes and ar15's..

[Maha]

I assume it's Givi panniers?

They do have that sliding catch over the top, but really, I CRC them occasionally and it makes them happy.

Only replaced one lock on a piece of Givi luggage in years of riding... they're good stuff.

Yes Givi but no sliding catch...not really worried about it all to be honest, just thought about it when a spare barrel was in with the kit.

[FJRider]

Yes Givi but no sliding catch...not really worried about it all to be honest, just thought about it when a spare barrel was in with the kit.

There is usually a flap in the key hole that slides back as you insert the key.

[Maha]

There is usually a flap in the key hole that slides back as you insert the key.

Yes, that I can see, maybe thats what Gremlin was talking about.

[FJRider]

Yes, that I can see, maybe thats what Gremlin was talking about.

Not much water gets past that. Especially at speed.

[Maha]

Not much water gets past that. Especially at speed.

So keep the speed up?...roger that.
The most pleasing aspect about the panniers is that we will finish a day of wet riding with dry stuff.

[FJRider]

So keep the speed up?...roger that.
The most pleasing aspect about the panniers is that we will finish a day of wet riding with dry stuff.

With panniers ... I've never had issues with the gear inside them getting wet. The big issue is finding enough gear to fill them ...

Rent a bit of "space" to Mom ... :dodge:

[Maha]

With panniers ... I've never had issues with the gear inside them getting wet. The big issue is finding enough gear to fill them ...

Rent a bit of "space" to Mom ... :dodge:

Oh don't you worry, rent is prepaid on the left pannier and most of the top box...:lol:

[FJRider]

Oh don't you worry, rent is prepaid on the left pannier and most of the top box...:lol:



Start looking for larger ones ... Full use of one and most of a second will not be enough.

[Gremlin]

There is usually a flap in the key hole that slides back as you insert the key.


Yes, that I can see, maybe thats what Gremlin was talking about.
Yup, what I was talking about. Just make sure none of your luggage fouls the closing of the luggage. That will create a gap in which water can come right on through.

As for bigger, I think he has the PLU? tubing, basically stepped down and in, and Givi only makes one set of panniers for that. If he had PL racks, then anything (including top boxes) would mount on, in any position.

[spanner spinner]

Are all your bags on the same key? if they are the top box lock has been changed to the same lock as the panniers. This is why there is a spare lock as it will be the old lock for the top box as the givi locks in my experience give no problems. panniers come keyed as pairs but you can't buy the top box as part of a set of three so they have a different key. Done heaps of lock changes in my job so that all three bags are keyed alike, one less key to carry.

[Maha]

Are all your bags on the same key? if they are the top box lock has been changed to the same lock as the panniers. This is why there is a spare lock as it will be the old lock for the top box as the givi locks in my experience give no problems. panniers come keyed as pairs but you can't buy the top box as part of a set of three so they have a different key. Done heaps of lock changes in my job so that all three bags are keyed alike, one less key to carry.

Interesting point but no, the top box is a different key. The spare barrel has a key in it and a spare, each pannier had a spare key taped inside and there was one on the key ring when I bought the bike...I have 5 pannier keys and 2 top box keys. No wonder you can pay $2K for a top box/pannier combo :rolleyes:

[spanner spinner]

the locks will have a key code number stamped on to the out side face of the lock. check the numbers just in case the last owner bought a new lock set for the top box but never got round to fitting it, if the numbers match the keys will be the same.

[FJRider]

Interesting point but no, the top box is a different key. The spare barrel has a key in it and a spare, each pannier had a spare key taped inside and there was one on the key ring when I bought the bike...I have 5 pannier keys and 2 top box keys. No wonder you can pay $2K for a top box/pannier combo :rolleyes:

It may pay to have Mom get a key to panniers and topbox on her key ring. And if possible a spare set at home.

[Maha]

the locks will have a key code number stamped on to the out side face of the lock. check the numbers just in case the last owner bought a new lock set for the top box but never got round to fitting it, if the numbers match the keys will be the same.

All brand new gear...including bike.

[Mom]

It may pay to have Mom get a key to panniers and topbox on her key ring. And if possible a spare set at home.

:Oi: Listen here young FJ, I will have you know I travel light...

Just check out any thread that talks about us on a trip, I apparently have no shame, actually PM bulimia he can attest :lol:

Only requirement is room for my wine :rolleyes:

Best you get your arse up this way so I can kick it :wait:

[FJRider]

:Oi: Listen here young FJ, I will have you know I travel light...

Just check out any thread that talks about us on a trip, I apparently have no shame, actually PM bulimia he can attest :lol:

Only requirement is room for my wine :rolleyes:

Best you get your arse up this way so I can kick it :wait:

I have been told ... :killingme

However ...

In the last 40 years of motorcycle touring ... I had a policy of "If I can't carry it, I didn't need it" ... and I applaud those with such a policy.

With the acquisition of panniers ... (previously) undreamed of space was available. Easy to fill with stuff you "Might" need. And need to keep dry. Luxury indeed for those not accustomed to it.

But spare keys to the panniers on your key ring (or amongst your handbag contents) will be handy.

[banditrider]

I've never had any trouble with the locks on any of my givi gear - they generally have quite a bit of grease packed in/around them.

The biggest thing to watch is the rubbers on the racks and the lock bolt. If the panniers or top box can vibrate when clipped on, the bolt will eventually wear and you can lose a box - trust me! Replace any worn rubbers (shouldn't be a problem on brand new gear) and add more rubber if need be. The bolts are not expensive or hard to replace either - worth checking on older gear.

I've now got a custom alloy rack to take my topbox and the top box has 2 large strips of rubber stuck under it. The box has to be pushed down a bit to get it to lock down. But there is no movement and that means no wear to worry about.

[kinger]

I've had a 52 top box for the last twelve years, and 46s on a wingrack for about ten. Ridden all year round in Europe. Toured across Canada in winter, and up and down NZ.
Never.......ever......had a problem with the locks, and never squirted anything in them.
I'm an aircraft engineer, and understand the concept of preventative maintenance, but for (insert deity of choice)'s sake. some people worry too much about irrelevant crap sometimes dontcha think?:baby: