Hospital catering

[awa355]

How about this? They are talking of a 15 year contract. :nono::nono:

I wonder which National stalwart has his finger in this pie.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/8535063/Waikato-kitchen-staff-fear-for-jobs


More lowly paid workers pushed aside in the name of corporate profits. :rolleyes:

[mashman]

It would appear that no one gives a shit. Wonder how much the senior members of staff/the board are paid?

[Oakie]

More lowly paid workers pushed aside in the name of corporate profits. :rolleyes:

Or to put more of 'Vote Health' money into front line care instead of running duplicate kitchen facilities in dozens of hospitals. What if saving this money allowed more operations and perhaps shortened waiting time for cancer treatment by a couple of weeks.

[awa355]

Or to put more of 'Vote Health' money into front line care instead of running duplicate kitchen facilities in dozens of hospitals. What if saving this money allowed more operations and perhaps shortened waiting time for cancer treatment by a couple of weeks.

If that was the case, I wouldn't have such a problem with the proposal.

From what I've seen of this govt, I doubt that will happen. The money saved will quite likely get siphoned off in a different direction.

As for duplicating facilities, if you consider kitchens a unneccassary duplication, you could say the same about many other health services eg, laundry, analysing, maintainence, supplys, administration etc.

If a decent sized disaster hit Ak or CHCH, the remainder of the country's hospitals needs to be able to continue to function.

[slowpoke]

AAAAAARGH! Compass? Absolutely shocking quality of food! My current employer uses Compass/ESS as the catering providor offshore and the food is just rubbish: worst quality of meat nobody else will touch, fruit that has obviously been frozen/refrozen (brown fleshed apples anyone?), poorly trained/paid cooks from indonesia who overcook dodgy vietnamese fish until it it's indistinguishable from chicken etc etc.

Last night was a classic, everyone on nightshift just groaned when they saw the muffins for smoko: just as they always are the "blueberry" muffins were just bland stodge that tasted like flour and water. How can a professional cook, organisation not be able to make a simple muffin?

The food may well inspire people to get the hell out of hospital as quick as they possibly can, but from my experienc with Compass it definitely won't contribute to their recovery.

[Akzle]

centralisation increases margins, so it must be good for everyone.
You want service? Fuck you, drive another 100km.

Moneymoneymoney! Growth! Capitalism! Debt!
Yay nz society!

[Banditbandit]

AAAAAARGH! Compass? Absolutely shocking quality of food! My current employer uses Compass/ESS as the catering providor offshore and the food is just rubbish: worst quality of meat nobody else will touch, fruit that has obviously been frozen/refrozen (brown fleshed apples anyone?), poorly trained/paid cooks from indonesia who overcook dodgy vietnamese fish until it it's indistinguishable from chicken etc etc.



And Comapss is not even a New Zealand company - It's a British-based multi-national .. so once again our Government is selling out to overseas interests ... any profits from such a deal will pour straight out of the country overseas ... So we get their crap food, our workers get paid crap wages (and many more people get added to the dole lines) and some overseas company takes the money out of GodZone ...

Just fucking typical ...

[oneofsix]

And Comapss is not even a New Zealand company - It's a British-based multi-national .. so once again our Government is selling out to overseas interests ... any profits from such a deal will pour straight out of the country overseas ... So we get their crap food, our workers get paid crap wages (and many more people get added to the dole lines) and some overseas company takes the money out of GodZone ...

Just fucking typical ...

If you don't like it you can get medical insurance, and pay money to another oversea company so they can spend it on deigning you care and forcing you into the public system anyhow. Not quite there yet but that will be where this government is heading. :clap:

[Oakie]

If that was the case, I wouldn't have such a problem with the proposal.

1)From what I've seen of this govt, I doubt that will happen. The money saved will quite likely get siphoned off in a different direction.

2)As for duplicating facilities, if you consider kitchens a unneccassary duplication, you could say the same about many other health services eg, laundry, analysing, maintainence, supplys, administration etc.

3)If a decent sized disaster hit Ak or CHCH, the remainder of the country's hospitals needs to be able to continue to function.

1) From what I heard the other day, doing this doesn't reduce 'Vote Health' so savings do go to other places within the health system. It was said to 'front-line' so hopefully this is what would happen.

2) Yeah well, perhaps some of those other things could follow? Good point.

3) Good point again!

[Banditbandit]

If you don't like it you can get medical insurance, and pay money to another oversea company so they can spend it on deigning you care and forcing you into the public system anyhow. Not quite there yet but that will be where this government is heading. :clap:

FUCK !!! I don't trust any pricks with my health ... it's my responsibility and I never use the witch doctors and black arts practitioners who make huge money off people's suffering ...

[Stirts]

As for duplicating facilities, if you consider kitchens a unneccassary duplication, you could say the same about many other health services eg, laundry, analysing, maintainence, supplys, administration


2) Yeah well, perhaps some of those other things could follow? Good point.

Here you go; HBL Site with a "Statement of Intent" - The organisation who "facilitate and lead initiatives that result in savings and efficiencies for District Health Boards (DHBs) on non-clinical initiatives"

http://www.healthbenefits.co.nz/

[Swoop]

A terrible move. As said, hospitals need to function at all times and especially in emergency/crisis situations.


I am wondering, with an election coming up, if certain "things" are being positioned now, so that when closer to election time they can cancel proposals. This then allows the approach of "we have listened to the public - aren't we benevolent and worthy leaders - vote for us".

Entirely possible.

[tri boy]

"Yes mamm, your special diet meal related to your op/recoup is of the highest quality to assist with your speedy recovery".................


TUI!!!

[mashman]

A terrible move. As said, hospitals need to function at all times and especially in emergency/crisis situations.


I am wondering, with an election coming up, if certain "things" are being positioned now, so that when closer to election time they can cancel proposals. This then allows the approach of "we have listened to the public - aren't we benevolent and worthy leaders - vote for us".

Entirely possible.

+1... we've borrowed an extra $60 billion whilst also cutting staff and services back, merging schools etc... I do wonder where that cash has gone and have thought similar to yourself above. Ride in to save the day because we asked for it.

[oldrider]

Hospitals are some of the most dangerous places in the country and most of them are run by the government! :rolleyes:

Public service is one of the areas in which governments have the most immediate influence! :facepalm:

Consequently when the "electorate" demands a better return for their tax dollar, where do they (politicians) look first? :whistle:

It's a no brainer IMHO .... what we need most of is less government interference and influence! :shifty:

Socialists on the other hand advocate more and more state control! :confused:

In socialist's eyes, "individual freedom" is paramount only when everything else is controlled, regulated or prohibited! :brick:

Every political party on serious offer in New Zealand (and supported by the media) is "socialist by degree", you get what you wish for! :finger:

The electorate is responsible for the government and therefore is also accountable for what the government does! :corn:

[Usarka]

+1 to swoop.

But it'll take a serious incident (disaster, major road closure etc) and the subsequent review before anyone will think it's a problem.

What happens when an order is shipped incorrectly? Patients go without food until the next day?



Or to put more of 'Vote Health' money into front line care instead of running duplicate kitchen facilities in dozens of hospitals. What if saving this money allowed more operations and perhaps shortened waiting time for cancer treatment by a couple of weeks.

This "front line" tag is mainly spin. What actually happens is all these "front line" people have to run around plugging all sorts of holes because the admin & process stuff isn't working. All these govt department privacy cock-ups are a good example, and this is just the stuff that's visible.

[pete376403]

Supposing this scheme was in place a couple of years ago - where would the South Island hospitals be turning to if the Christchurch food factory was taken out by the earthquake?

[Maha]

It's been many years since I had the displeasure of eating (well...not in this case) hospital food.

They go on about 'feeding the sick'. If the sick can stomach the current crap served up, they can't be that sick, well not before consumption anyway.
I am all for the new system, ''some'' TV type dinners are not so bad.

[BoristheBiter]

AAAAAARGH! Compass? Absolutely shocking quality of food! My current employer uses Compass/ESS as the catering providor offshore and the food is just rubbish: worst quality of meat nobody else will touch, fruit that has obviously been frozen/refrozen (brown fleshed apples anyone?), poorly trained/paid cooks from indonesia who overcook dodgy vietnamese fish until it it's indistinguishable from chicken etc etc.

Last night was a classic, everyone on nightshift just groaned when they saw the muffins for smoko: just as they always are the "blueberry" muffins were just bland stodge that tasted like flour and water. How can a professional cook, organisation not be able to make a simple muffin?

The food may well inspire people to get the hell out of hospital as quick as they possibly can, but from my experienc with Compass it definitely won't contribute to their recovery.

So what is the difference as the food now is lower than shit? but now it will cost less.

[Ocean1]

Anyone dinned at Wgtn hospital recently?

[bluninja]

Yay!!! failure of the food hygene, poison, infection in one hospital kitchen and you can take hit half the NZ hospitale population out and increase the costs of fixing all those affected...but that would come out of ACC cos it would be accidental right? Crazy horse burger anyone ? :rolleyes:

[bluninja]

OMG I must keep away from the keyboard after eating hospital food (or drinking heineken....can't tell the difference in taste):cool: