I'm looking for a new bike

[nineboy]

Hi i am currently looking for a new bike on trademe for either a ninja 250r/ hyosung gt250r/ honda vtr/ vl250 or other decent learners bikes but was wondering what is high mileage for a motorbike? and what things should i be looking for when buying a second hand motorbike? Seen a few ninjas with over 20,000kms on it and have heard that 20,000 is pretty high? Also anyone in the east/central/south auckland regions that is willing to help show me the ropes as i have no family/friends that own bikes :blink:

[ducatilover]

Have you considered buying something on the LAMS list?
20k? No, that is not high and they won't even be due for their first valve clearance check.

The EX/GPZ/GPZ/ZZR motors will do 80,000km reliably if serviced well, quite a few have done over 100k with decent servicing. Personally I'd be looking at the LAMS list and finding something a bit nicer than an EX250/GT250 etc

[blackdog]

Sorted.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/157411-250-prices

You're welcome.

[bosslady]

Get some training. If you are happy to fork out for a ninja put a few hundy aside for some lessons with an instructor, it's more important and will stay with you forever unlike a shiny sports bike. Always nice to find people to ride with, I didn't have any friends or family that would help either but first and foremost invest in decent training so you can start acquiring good, safe road practices rather than trying to unlearn bad habits farther down the track. Just my 2c worth.

[Maha]

If a bike has over 20,000 kms on it, then it's not ''new'' is it?
What you are looking for is a second hand bike. :corn:

[Rhys]

Get some training. If you are happy to fork out for a ninja put a few hundy aside for some lessons with an instructor, it's more important and will stay with you forever unlike a shiny sports bike. Always nice to find people to ride with, I didn't have any friends or family that would help either but first and foremost invest in decent training so you can start acquiring good, safe road practices rather than trying to unlearn bad habits farther down the track. Just my 2c worth.

couldn't put it any beter my self

[superjackal]

Hi i am currently looking for a new bike on trademe for either a ninja 250r/ hyosung gt250r/ honda vtr/ vl250 or other decent learners bikes but was wondering what is high mileage for a motorbike? and what things should i be looking for when buying a second hand motorbike? Seen a few ninjas with over 20,000kms on it and have heard that 20,000 is pretty high? Also anyone in the east/central/south auckland regions that is willing to help show me the ropes as i have no family/friends that own bikes :blink:

I went through this recently. Most 250s I rode needed lots of revvy riding. I looked at 500s and kept coming back to the GS500 and ER-5. Ended up very happy with an ER-5. My ER-5 has 28K and seems tight as a drum.

[Dragon]

My GSX250 2002 model has 65000km on it now ive done 11000km of that since I got it in jan and it still happily does redline pulls :)

Been serviced all its life and I do oil every 5000km and oil, filter etc every 10000km

Look for something with history if you can

Dont worry to much about a few cosmetic issues most learners will drop the bike at some stage

[GrayWolf]

Hi i am currently looking for a new bike on trademe for either a ninja 250r/ hyosung gt250r/ honda vtr/ vl250 or other decent learners bikes but was wondering what is high mileage for a motorbike? and what things should i be looking for when buying a second hand motorbike? Seen a few ninjas with over 20,000kms on it and have heard that 20,000 is pretty high? Also anyone in the east/central/south auckland regions that is willing to help show me the ropes as i have no family/friends that own bikes :blink:

20k? It all depends on the bike. How it's been treated, well serviced (or not).. just a commuter for short trips. lot of long distance work. All these factors add up in decision making.

20k on a well serviced bike, well looked after, sensibly ridden, (start up and ride at cold is the HIGHEST wear factor time) So a regular long distance bike could have less 'wear' than a short trip commuter.

Bike that's been owned and ridden (described as the shizzz, unbreakable, nutzz, quick as, ridden to the 'stop', etc etc) should actually be interpreted as... I thrash the fuck out of it every time I ride it, or is young with a low income? Bike is going to likely have a poor sevicing history and has been put quite simply.. mistreated.....

[nodrog]

Hi i am currently looking for a new bike on trademe for either a ninja 250r/ hyosung gt250r/ honda vtr/ vl250 or other decent learners bikes but was wondering what is high mileage for a motorbike? and what things should i be looking for when buying a second hand motorbike? Seen a few ninjas with over 20,000kms on it and have heard that 20,000 is pretty high? Also anyone in the east/central/south auckland regions that is willing to help show me the ropes as i have no family/friends that own bikes :blink:

Motorcyles dont have ropes.

[Laava]

Motorcyles dont have ropes.

Are motor cyles those sores you get on your bottom from doing long rides and you have to get them lanced?

[nodrog]

Are motor cyles those sores you get on your bottom from doing long rides and you have to get them lanced?

Who's Lance?

[Laava]

Who's Lance?

The bottom inspector.
https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=110304522361009&v=feed&filter=2&_rdr#!/photo.php?fbid=201842383207222&id=110304522361009&set=a.131235213601273.20591.110304522361009&relevant_count=1&__user=1263673269

[Old Steve]

Laava. Surely you'd be thinking of changing your avatar if you're going to make bottom jokes?

[Grashopper]

My GN has 40,000 kms down now and is still going fine... or as good as it gets I suppose :D

If a GN is ok with that milage I would expect other bikes should not have problems either. Should not doesn't mean that they don't, there are no guarantees. As GrayWolf said it depends on how it was treated, if it was serviced regularly etc so if possible have someone who knows what they are doing look over a bike you are thinking of buying. Of course go for less milage though if possible. I'm just saying that having more than 20k doesn't mean the bike is going to fall apart any time soon. And rather spend a bit less and, as bosslady said, invest in some good training.

[frogfeaturesFZR]

Laava. Surely you'd be thinking of changing your avatar if you're going to make bottom jokes?

Can't listen to ' Two little boys' anymore, and not wonder....!

[arcane12]

My GN has 40,000 kms down now and is still going fine... or as good as it gets I suppose :D

If a GN is ok with that milage I would expect other bikes should not have problems either. Should not doesn't mean that they don't, there are no guarantees. As GrayWolf said it depends on how it was treated, if it was serviced regularly etc so if possible have someone who knows what they are doing look over a bike you are thinking of buying. Of course go for less milage though if possible. I'm just saying that having more than 20k doesn't mean the bike is going to fall apart any time soon. And rather spend a bit less and, as bosslady said, invest in some good training.

Yes and no. 40K should not be a problem for any bike, but a GN250 would take a bit more abuse than a hyped up Ninja or other sport bike. I'm not bagging a GN (I'd rate my LS650 in a similar fashion), but the simple engine design means less things to go wrong. Also the rider who buy a GN250 is liss likely to be thrashing it (well, except for the constant max throttle on the highway).

So I think you're on the right track, but a GN and a sport 250 is like comparing denim and polyester trousers - Both can last a long time, but that denim pair will take a bit more punishment before giving up. It's all about how you use it, and look after it.

[Glowerss]

Yes and no. 40K should not be a problem for any bike, but a GN250 would take a bit more abuse than a hyped up Ninja or other sport bike. I'm not bagging a GN (I'd rate my LS650 in a similar fashion), but the simple engine design means less things to go wrong. Also the rider who buy a GN250 is liss likely to be thrashing it (well, except for the constant max throttle on the highway).

So I think you're on the right track, but a GN and a sport 250 is like comparing denim and polyester trousers - Both can last a long time, but that denim pair will take a bit more punishment before giving up. It's all about how you use it, and look after it.

I think you have that backwards.

Mechanically speaking, single cylinder bikes wear faster then multi cylinder bikes.

Somebody with far more mechanical knowhow then me can explain it, and correct me if im wrong! But from my understanding, given all things being equal, a 650 single at 40,000km is going to have taken more wear and tear then an IL4 of a similar vintage.

Single cylinder bikes don't normally achieve high mileages. I'd certainly stay the fuck away from a single over 60k km.

[arcane12]

Really? Could be true, but is news to me (that doesn't mean much). I would have thought the simplicity of the design of the GN, with so few things to go wrong like feul injection, higher revving, etc, that it would be more reliable. But I had not considered possible extra wear. Can anyone chime in that know more? Off to google I go...

[Danzano]

I think you have that backwards.

Mechanically speaking, single cylinder bikes wear faster then multi cylinder bikes.

Somebody with far more mechanical knowhow then me can explain it, and correct me if im wrong! But from my understanding, given all things being equal, a 650 single at 40,000km is going to have taken more wear and tear then an IL4 of a similar vintage.

Single cylinder bikes don't normally achieve high mileages. I'd certainly stay the fuck away from a single over 60k km.

Depends on service history and design

Yes the piston rings bearing etc take more load but if there designed to cope and well maintained does it matter if there's one or 4 ?

I think with a lot of those theories your talking about different technology comparing a il4 dohc to a single soc or Dohc with less valves etc etc

All things equal including servicing the single would have the same wear or marginally more due to having a counter balance shaft and over factors

Apples to oranges

Should of just said that lol


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