RG - Extensive clean [Archive]

Arronduke

18th April 2013, 22:04

This will be my third bike / post build. For many it will be hello, for some it will be… Sh!t this shit again worse then the TV show Seven at Seven - shit on TV one at 7.. funny that.!

OK fact is, had a few beers and a… yeaaaaa man. :_ smile thing failure.
So leaning back and thinking about how the extensive cleansing of my RG should go..

To my old friends.. yip..still loving the CRC…. Not just for bed springs.

So first off… build work shop bike stand, followed by engine stand. Oh and save heaps of money, while depriving the kids of clothes and food. Don’t forget the misses. Yep deprive her too of food and clothes to fund the cleansing of the mighty RG500.. you guessed it.. no undies for the misses..

My guess this blog will take quite some time…. There maybe a beer or two consumed so if that offends you best to be moving on… and thanks for your time.

Jobs..

Build motorbike work shop stand.
Build RG motor stand
Accumulate parts while still allowing the kids to eat and Sallies undies.

Expected time frame..

Depends on… beer, money and time.

SVboy

19th April 2013, 10:24

Thank god-another ARRONDUKE thread, bike related goodness, alcohol tasting tips and solid relationship advice. Winter will fly by!

Arronduke

19th April 2013, 19:58

Thank god-another ARRONDUKE thread, bike related goodness, alcohol tasting tips and solid relationship advice. Winter will fly by!

Its good to be back... I am looking forward to this... the RG is going to be a fun project.!

Yep ... hoping to save a few blokes from becoming yes men.

Done the dishes yet... "yes", what about the lawns..."yes" and did you tell that friend ... you know the one that like beer that your not going on that ride or going to the pub... "yes" good...my folks are coming around and you need to watch the kids while we go to the pub... !

:drinkup:

Arronduke

19th April 2013, 20:57

Right its Friday, what's that mean in my house?
It means Beer and Bikes.... and not big asses....and it does not mean talking to the in-laws (and yes they are here at the moment) the pain of having to listen to dribble.:yawn:

I can't understand how people can sit down and drink cups of tea for hours and speak absolutely nothing that is worth while. Different if there is a beer in your hand.

Anyway back to the RG..

Work on the engine stand has started... a little work with cardboard and a CAD drawing completed and the template is sorted. Looks cool. Next week it will be laser cut and welded.

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tring not to fuck it up... right pain in the butt making it from steel first time, at 18 thats what I would have done... :facepalm:

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You can't tell me that does not look cool. That looks real dam cool. Now I have to make one out of steel. Oh and add wheels obviously!

The aim of each day is to complete a small task towards the ultimate goal. And that goal seems a long way away at the moment. But taking little steps gets you there in the end... Hell that's how I got married... should have run the other way. Mind you a wife is useful.. they do everything around the house and earn money so I can spend it....

Why is a Laundromat a really bad place to pick up a woman?
Because a woman who can't afford a washing machine will never be able to support you! :shit:

Arronduke

19th April 2013, 21:13

Still tapping away... my next barrier to progress is that ... work shop bike stand. Don't know about you but its on the wish list... yep I wish I had one... like I wish my wife had plastic tits...... if your reading this on a Friday night... you my friend are a loser...!

Hiding in office from in-laws... having a few beers.... thinking..."should I tell my wife to go to bed yet? Na I want another beer first and finish this post.

So fuck me back to the bike stand...

example ...

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Why do women have long hair..?
So when you drag them in to a cave they don"t full up with dirt...!:gob:

Arronduke

19th April 2013, 22:10

Is this a I hate women tread you might ask... obviously not.. other wise I would be on a different web site. One talking about inserts, back hair and touching your toes. So I must apologies from my anti women sentiment. Fact is I love women, they can multi task....:calm:

Example mine can... cook, clean and wipe stuff- while raising kids, fill the fridge with shopping, iron shirts, make breakfast and my lunch while I struggle to drink all the beer in the fridge and fix those dam bikes in the garage that seem never to br fixed and cost too much. The most comonly ask question is... whats it going to cost... and how much time do you need.... fuck I am trying to build a bike i usually say. After all who cares what a compost costs and how long it might take to fill it

Yep I love women... Helen Clark just ruined me.

Ok loser I hear you say.... how long is this RG shit going to take...

Like I said.. no Idea but the accumulation of parts has been going on for quite some time...

So first up on the parts list =

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If that does not cause trouser movement then this might not be the right place for you... nail polish, is that grease on the kitchen cloth and do you think I have long flaps are things we dont think or care about. You stupid women those are gears for my bike.

That there is a RG500 upgraded gear set. First gear is taller to closer the gap, all gears are stonger than standard. Hand made for the RG500.

"Who said that?", "sharp mind that dude."

Why not.. cause I can... and these pictures are better than old tits on film.

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Arronduke

19th April 2013, 22:22

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Yep new pistons...+0.5mm

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Crank bearings... big and small.. just need con rodes and the cranks will be good to go.

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Quality is unreal... these are modified bearings.. all sealed.

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Gasket set, complete.. o-rings are viton which is better than standard.

If your dog is barking at the back door and your wife is yelling at the front door, who do you let in first?
The dog of course...at least he'll shut up after you let him in.

Asher

19th April 2013, 22:44

What exactly is your plan? just a engine freshen?
How much are you expecting it to cost?
I was just chatting to a mate earlier who has been offered a 500 at a reasonable price but its been seized on 2 cylinders and has been sitting for far longer than it should and he didnt think he was able to afford a rebuild.

Arronduke

20th April 2013, 16:21

How much will it cost.....that is an interesting question.

I perfer not to think about it. To be honest its more like how much do you want to spend. There is a heap of perfeormance parts avalible for these things to create one truly scary monster.

But to rebuild an engine... new pistons, rebuild cranks and bearings and seal could easily consume $3000 +. But what is an RG500 worth? If you can get it cheap enough then yes its worth every cent. When you have riden one of these puppies you will understand. Having young kids to sell certainly helps with the cost... even if it is only for an hour! :no:

Magazine Extract:

There have been many iconic motorcycles-- like the GSX-R, the Honda Cub, the Ducati 916, and the Yamaha R1. But there is a rarefied place in the stratosphere of motorcycles where examples of really ridiculous engineering live. Engineering like that found inside the engine of the Suzuki RG500

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/PHOTO_5736538_12265_12146014_ap_320X240_zps54b2450 c.jpg

While the front of the RG500 has an old-fashioned square headlight and somewhat uninspiring fairing, the business end has more theatre than any other motorcycle. Years before the undertail pipes were made popular by Ducati's 916, the RG had undertail pipes, and pipes on either side of the swingarm. That means delicious shots of two-stroke were pouring out of four delicate little cans at the back of this 95bhp gatling gun.

Right out of the crate, the bike made nearly 200bhp per litre, a higher specific output than perhaps any other production motorcycle or car engine ever. At 406 pounds wet, the RG motor had 50lbs less to move than it's '86 gsx-r 750 stablemate--the thing was a rocket. It had an race-derived aluminium frame but the real masterstroke was it's two-stroke, double-crankshaft square-4 engine with rotary valve induction. It's true! It also had a heck of a powerband, jumping from 37.5 bhp at 6.5k to 70bhp at 9k!

What does it feel like to ride an RG500? Well, it has that mega speed hit starting at 6500RPM, and the bike is tiny. Just watch the below video--imagine how INSANE this thing must have felt in 1986...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xheAMPfKdqQ&feature=player_embedded#!

unstuck

20th April 2013, 16:31

Nice old bikes. A mate of mine had one for a while, I had a T500 Titan at the time. Good times. Good luck with your project.:niceone: Nice video too, love the sound.:headbang:

grantman

20th April 2013, 17:34

Arronduke

20th April 2013, 17:58

So did I answer that question... I guess not.

Right this is the starting point... parked in the shed.

waiting for pictures to down load...

Scientists have discovered a food that diminishes a woman's sex drive by 90%:
Wedding cake.

Still waiting... new beer, and still waiting.

So whats the plan... 1152 beers... hell thats only 36 a week... really, and it will be new years day...

Strip and rebuild complete bike, new wheels. I hate the wheels on the RG now... 16in and 18in. So going to 17s all round. New brakes, fork rebuild, performance parts and upgrades galore.

Every bearing and seal will be new... I am thinking Dec ... 14 thats a heap of cash... dont tell the wife. No worries at my house... the wife cant read!

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paint is OK... but the rest will be worked on... aim... mint bike that goes like stink...

Just in case you are wondering... has a women riden my RG.. YES, my sister who has owned GPZ1100, GS1000, beemers, etc... thought it lacked grunt. When questioned... did you rev it past 6k? No was the answer. Sums it up... why do men always turn the vibrator speed higher than appriciated? sorry cant answer that one... cause I am such a man that no such divice could keep up..!:bleh:

haaaa

Arronduke

20th April 2013, 17:59

Look at that front tyre... I hate it... I will burn that, it will be a great day.!

Arronduke

20th April 2013, 18:04

Oh god
Arrons at it again

Shit !!!! I was going to drop off my FXR bucket for you to play with
Now in screwed as you have started on RG500

I'm still going drop it off anyway
You won't notice another bike

Mr Grant... you are in Tahiti... looking at sheee males/boys... hell what do you say in the morning.? Hi honey ..... haaaaaa thats too funny:eek:

Arronduke

20th April 2013, 18:11

[QUOTE=grantman;1130534154]Oh god
Arrons at it again

I am thinking that Graham really does not need to know about this... I am sure you would agree...being his twin brother...!!!!!:confused:
No one wants Graham having his 5cents worth when we know he cant even change a spark plug... sorry I will correct myself... even know what a spark plug IS...!!!! Losser!

:killingme

grantman

20th April 2013, 19:16

Yes Arron I am in Tahiti (for work )
I tired to reply to this bloody post three times from the ipad and getting some secuirty error
hotel network is shit

I had to walk all the way from the pool back to my room to use my laptop !

No i havnt seen any ladyboys and they would look a lot better than your sorry arse !

I hear a rumour your rebuild is so your wife can take the RG to the cold kiwi this year

Graham is a useless twat
Most people wont understand how bad he really is

He brought a brand new CRF450 because his 09 stopped
Mainly due to a clogged air filter !!!

Oh i wish i had that much money to be so stupid

Back to the pool bar !

Arron - If i see a lady boy I will take a photo & post it for you to have a wank over.

Pumba

22nd April 2013, 21:06

Oh Arron. How I have missed your build threads. Added to my subscribe list.

Arronduke2

26th April 2013, 16:59

Ha Puma... be scared... I started the Bucket up in the weekend.. Time to get back on the track!

The RG is going to look cool when its done!

Arronduke

27th April 2013, 21:16

The RG is going to look cool when its done!

Who said that and who the hell is... Arronduke2? who's the smart ass?

Some might be thinking... its me cause I forgot my password and the Kiwibiker has my old email address. But you would be wrong. I am not THAT stupid... really.
Ok cant spell, write, and speak some times but, that stupid? naaa. WHO is thios Arron clone?

Anyway... mind back on the job please... as the wife would say... fuck its been 3min do I have to keep doing this... sorry good nite...haaa

Ok Ok what have you done this week?

Engine stand
"Nope"... Trying to get it cheaper than $70 for laser cutting, and $20 for powder coating, I will know next week. See it is worth while taking pictures of your mate in whore houses! They just keep on giving... true great friends.

OK no engine stand... that means you have done FA! "maybe"

Two great things happened this week... Christmas from the USA and I worked like a ..... ( I will leave you to fill in the gap.... so many answers will offended... being PC I cant have that)...

So lets go to the hard work example....

Why cant I post pictures now... ?

Arronduke

27th April 2013, 21:48

Ok its official.. I hate photobucket. I am convinced it run by a women. Must be... the whole thing is design to piss my off.
Anyway, another try and bingo it starts working well F.. Me. Same thing being married... all good one minute and 3sec later your in the shit... and nothing has changed!

So this humans is my bike stand.. I think it needs some paint and it will be good to go.

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If your thinking... just a heap of steel in a trailer then your wife most likely changes the spark plugs on your bike... that there is a cutting list... all cut to size and ready to go. ...(by me... all that cutting..)
Next drill a few holes and throw some weld at it.

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The RG gods have sent gifts.. please do the same. Look at my profile for account details at ANZ, and thanks for your generous deposit. Hell I can even write your name on components.. howz that for advertising.

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That there is RG porn.

Clutch upgrade kit to stop clutch drag, has new plates, both types, springs and spacers.
Fork upgrade - Emulators and heaps of other shit that goes in the forks.
Air filter kit - bye bye air box and hello induction noise to die for... air filter kit comes with carb rebuild kit, jets, and filters setup. Dam nice I might add.

Arronduke

27th April 2013, 22:09

I have checked my account... and no f#cker has donated a thing.

On the cash front that little box cost over a G NZ. So that means I have to beg, rob , steal or wait until funds are available. And having taken an advance on next months cash I am not a happy man. I have found the rims I need and the robbers at Bike Busters want $700 for a set of rims. Cant seem to find them any ware else so I will wait 6 weeks and get them. If you have a brain you will be asking... why 6 weeks? Nothing in life is an accident. 6 weeks... well that $100 a week x 6 weeks. She will never notice!:bleh:

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My last project... going very well, I am riding it tomorrow.
Its done a few rides now. only thing I did not rebuild was the forks and sure as a bear shit in the woods a fork seal shat itself. Forfs now rebuilt.

after the RG will be this... my kat its in half development but needs the love.

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Oh and the Gixer.. no misses is going to change the spark plus on this baby. Don't care what size cups you have.
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gammaguy

27th April 2013, 22:20

Look at that front tyre... I hate it... I will burn that, it will be a great day.!

I run metzeler lasertec on mine handles and grips awesome

gammaguy

27th April 2013, 22:22

By the way when you have made the engine stands I'll buy some from you

I have buyers already

Arronduke

27th April 2013, 22:41

By the way when you have made the engine stands I'll buy some from you

I have buyers already

Mr Gammaguy, no drama just let me know the quantity. Price will be cost plus $20... seems fair. receipts provided on request.. don't want to rip of another dude with a Rg and a Kat...!
Did you look at going 1340 on your kat with busa pistons?

Arronduke

27th April 2013, 22:57

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Every garage needs a radio... so I have one in my shed.
Oh and the black things on the left are speakers..... that there is a 260 RMS amp... I like it but it seems F#cxk all others do. Neighbour tried to strangle me one night... hell he lives miles away. Morel of the story... wife needs to know when to leave me playing the stereo as loud as I want, and when it goes quite come and make sure the neighbour is not try to kill me. She can do that while getting breakfast ready. And ironing the sheets before I come to bed... I hate the wrinkles.:nono:

Dam I wish I was a women... life seems so easy... do what your told, never think of yourself and keep beer in the fridge. So simple compared to me....
OH - so dam simple... LEARN HOW TO COOK EGGS... a must!

:spanking::spanking:

gammaguy

27th April 2013, 23:37

Mr Gammaguy, no drama just let me know the quantity. Price will be cost plus $20... seems fair. receipts provided on request.. don't want to rip of another dude with a Rg and a Kat...!
Did you look at going 1340 on your kat with busa pistons?

I'll take ten for starters.....depending on price of course:shifty:

bogan

28th April 2013, 00:50

So this humans is my bike stand.. I think it needs some paint and it will be good to go.

Slot A into hole B and Bob's your uncle; and he's no fucking help either...

Excellent thread my good sir, will follow this with interest, the RG parts for the jaw dropping awesome, and the lift bit for the utility factor.

grantman

28th April 2013, 21:33

Hi arron
your screwed if Julie ever reads your posts!

I will never forget riding behind your RG500 and seeing the cows freaking out about this strange noise and seeing the cows running away thru the paddocks

Cheers

Drew

28th April 2013, 22:01

Posting to subscribe.

Always loved the RG500.

SVboy

29th April 2013, 09:28

I saw those photos and did a little sex wee.....outstanding!

Arronduke

4th May 2013, 17:35

I'll take ten for starters.....depending on price of course:shifty:

Still waiting for a price for the laser cutting, got a price but it was expensive... like I forget now but it pissed me off. So I have a mate that knows a dude with a laser and powder coating business... that means cheaper...!

10 well... fuck me.

No issue making them.. but I will get the two I have ordered done first. One sold already. To a mate to be honest.

Arronduke

4th May 2013, 17:56

So what the update?

Good question... nothing pretty much sums it up.
Might as well go straight to degrading women... such good fun.

Q: Why do women like to have sex with the lights off?
A: They can't stand to see a man have a good time!

What more is there to say... :rockon:

But I did have a discussion with some dude on planet earth, no idea where.
yep its the RG500 email link. No idea how many people but heaps and they are all over the world. any question... heaps of answers.

The rims on the RG are quite special it seems. A company made them for the RG so you could put on the best tyres of the time. Hard to believe that now.

Hah,

this is/was my Gamma (upper two pics are the same bike and same rims!).
The red-white bodywork was just fitted for pictures and went to Norway arond 2002/2003 to TorEinar, if I remember correctly.
Later on, I got the PVMs powder coated in (nearly) original blue to fit the original 1987 bodywork

The PVMs 3-spoke classic alu are of the following sizes (and long time not available any more, but special batch made for the Gamma at PVM):
front: 3.0x16 (fitted with Metzeler ME33 120/80-16 CompK MBS)
rear: 3.5x18 (fitted with Metzeler ME1 150/70-18 CompK MBS)

The CompK worked top for me, but were taken out of the Metzeler lists already around 1997. But one german dealer ordered a small batch of ~200 tire sets around 2004 or so, but already all were sold! I got the last one after months of searching from Czech Republic or so ...
Later on, I heard the Bridgestone BT45 with 120 or 110 and 130 or 140 worked better than the CompKs. I never tried!
And I have no comparison with standard sizes!

But with this setup, I always run into the ass of a GSXR600 K2 while "running" slow corners in the Eifel Mountains.
My friend Martin started to run away only after the day, he installed the non standard tires and changed to Pirelli Super Corsa .....

What I liked most on this 16-18" combo was, that if you run on the street and coming out of fast corners and the corner was getting more tight, --- so getting of the throttle or using the breaks wasn't an option, --- , you just had to open the throttle a bit moire and the Gamma turned real nice into the new (closer) line and got out of the corner still hanging on the right side of the street. :)
I always trusted in those tires and also coming out of very close corners in 1st or 2nd gear with leaning to much, giving a bit to much throttle, the tire slipped a bit and giving a bit less throttle all went best, no worries ever to get high sided!

(By the way, the guy on the second pic is not me, but my parents neighbour, who is a Harley freak (flat head 1946 or so ....) and has nowadays also an old Guzzi thingy (GüllePumpe). Didn't talk to him lately.
He took the snow from ours onto his truck, to build a snow bar for Sylvester at the roads impasse. :)

Cheers
Carsten

I am trying to add the pictures...

Arronduke

4th May 2013, 18:18

While I am thinking about wheel sizes... common sense say 17inch all round.
BUT fuck me these rims are like cool.... made for the RG...

So while I think about that I thought some breast pictures would be good... I like the letter B. So many cool things start with the letter B - beer, buds, bikes, boobs, bikinis, blow jobs... and boxes and butts if your a fag, a Grant!

Now we all like large tits... so enjoy.

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/mistressrhiannon2105390_zps9f9718d9.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/mistressrhiannon2105390_zps9f9718d9.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo mistressrhiannon2105390_zps9f9718d9.jpg"/></a>

And I'm speech less... and just getting the last bits off before jumping in your sleeping bag! :hug:

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/karolar_zps1cf3a4c1.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/karolar_zps1cf3a4c1.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo karolar_zps1cf3a4c1.jpg"/></a>

Arronduke

19th May 2013, 18:48

Dam that's not good...my sleeping bag not big enough.... a bit like looking at the rear of an RG500... big wide and with a skinny little tyre. Today it just looks well awful.
Hell the RG lead the way for the Duke 916 with the out the back exhaust.. in the 80"s this was the best of tyre technology.

So like any normal human I WANT new modern rubber.... 16font and 18rear ... not.

So I have found that GSX600F rims are the go, even found some at the wreakers in Ngaruawahia ... yep nice people to deal with and they only wanted $700 for both rims :eek5:. Oh and plus for other parts like sprocket carrier etc. excuse my language but FUCK me...! That just plan robbery.

What option do I have... hmmm ebay... been well stung there but lets have a look.... yep... there they are, just what I want and ONLY about 100 pounds for both...

http://http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/32041-Suzuki-GSX600F-GSX750F-1998-Rear-Wheel-BOF-Stripped-Ready-To-Paint-/280960156153?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123

Both landed in NZ for 285 pounds for $535 nz WITH SPROKET CARRIER... yep does not seem right to be able to import rims from the UK cheaper than you can get them in NZ.
Still pissed.

Arronduke

19th May 2013, 19:02

Dam that not good... a bit like look at the rear of am RG500... big wide and with a skinny little tyre. Today it just looks well awful.
Hell the RG lead the way for the Duke 916 with the out the back exhaust.. nut in the 80"s this was the best of tyre technology.

So like any normal human I WANT new modern rubber.... 16font and 18rear ... not.

So I have found that GSX600F rims are the go, even found some at the wreakers in Ngaruawahia ... yep nice people to deal with and they only wanted $700 for both rims :eek5:. Oh and plus for other parts like sprocket carrier etc. excuse my language but FUCK me...! That just plan robbery.

What option do I have... hmmm ebay... been well stung there but lets have a look.... yep... there they are, just what I want and ONLY about 100 pounds for both...

http://http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/32041-Suzuki-GSX600F-GSX750F-1998-Rear-Wheel-BOF-Stripped-Ready-To-Paint-/280960156153?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123

Both landed in NZ for 285 pounds for $535 nz WITH SPROKET CARRIER... yep does not seem right to be able to import rims from the UK cheaper than you can get them in NZ.
Still pissed.

Arronduke

19th May 2013, 19:28

Ok what have I been up to?

Saving... and working on my motor stand and bike stand... I keep looking at my account waiting for the donations to come streaming in... what do I need to do starve myself? Maybe I need an ear job... to be cool.

Oh that's right that's been done... to be cool you have to be ahead of the game...

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DanitaDelimont_com_AF21_JLE0652_zps78d146d6.jpg (http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DanitaDelimont_com_AF21_JLE0652_zps78d146d6.jpg.ht ml)

with the drought this summer... yep I would look cool. But really? Na this look is old hat now...

I might go with the new lip look.... what will it be called... lip frizzbee..

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DanitaDelimont_com_AF16_JLE0614_zps1a614cc7.jpg (http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DanitaDelimont_com_AF16_JLE0614_zps1a614cc7.jpg.ht ml)

Mean while I save for my new lip job... I will keep working on the RG ....
The engine stand is looking good... needs some plastic feet and to be powder coated.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00065_zps13455b79.jpg (http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00065_zps13455b79.jpg.html)

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00022_zps310b57e5.jpg (http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00022_zps310b57e5.jpg.html)

and the bike stand is moving forward...

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00063_zps425568b3.jpg (http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00063_zps425568b3.jpg.html)

Oh did I mention while undertaking this massive engineering feat that one might get thirsty... so what does one do?
I learnt at school that rehydration is very important...... yep... make beer!:drinkup:

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00029_zpscd697911.jpg (http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00029_zpscd697911.jpg.html)

Arronduke

21st May 2013, 20:14

Its been noticed....!
Why am I doing everything?

hell, how do you answer that... ?

so many answers... "here we go... poor women having to do it all, do you think I sit in my shed and play..?" ahhh not going to use that one!

"I not sure what's changed? it just seem to take you longer these days, you might try working a little harder. To be honest if it helps I can set the alarm an hour earlier....just don't wake me up. I hate to see you stressed and it seem so obvious you need to take more time to get everything done. After all I am only trying to help" naaa no good either I think...

Yep there is only one answer... " I have absolutely no idea what your talking about, but look what I made... cool a. Can you get me a beer please?" Seemed to work so full speed ahead.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00066_zps4812239d.jpg (http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00066_zps4812239d.jpg.html)

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00068_zps308039a3.jpg (http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00068_zps308039a3.jpg.html)

Need to find a hydraulic jack and the finish the lift part. I must say I am reasonably pleased. 3ton minimum. Dam thing weighs a ton... literally.
Pressed the button today... paypal. Rims are on there way ... from the UK.! dirty old GSX600f rims... cheaper in the UK than NZ..!

Not know about you but I have a cold, snot running like a river... only positive is it saves on lunch.!
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/untitled_zps38435e8f.png (http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/untitled_zps38435e8f.png.html)

Arronduke

23rd May 2013, 22:19

Drinking beer looking at the weeks work.
Yep pleased... had the plans / idea for ages and collected steel for the ages.
Like normal... its best not to think about it... just do it.... best advice I can give.

Starting to look cool, even the wife was impressed.. not rooted her on it yet, after all its only tacked togeather at the moment and the weight of my ... Pen.... anyway it need welding and a big plate under the jack. no good on the floor.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00085_zps5487bf7a.jpg (http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00085_zps5487bf7a.jpg.html)

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00082_zpsd64176d3.jpg (http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00082_zpsd64176d3.jpg.html)

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00079_zpsb694bfeb.jpg (http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00079_zpsb694bfeb.jpg.html)

No shit... took boy riding on his KX65.. first time, got fire going, organised tea
Cooked tea...
homework done... I am deee man... not like a house.. Fuck me, what do women see in them things? more demanding than a family put together!

sugilite

23rd May 2013, 22:44

Love your work! On all fronts, bike, workshop, advice about woman and eloquent postings :lol:

Drew

24th May 2013, 06:54

That bad boy looks quite heavy. Will you be putting it on castors to move it round?

Arronduke

24th May 2013, 21:35

That bad boy looks quite heavy. Will you be putting it on castors to move it round?

Heavy is correct.. dam things weighs a ton..

And casters.. yep.. casters it will have. Found some nice little ones.
Ah not.. My guess is 200kg for the stand.. and 200kg for a big bike... asked 7yr old what that equals... 600kg.

So I have some casters rated at 150kg each x 4 = 600kg

Arronduke

24th May 2013, 21:52

I am thinking about the bottom plate for my bike stand, under the jack... 5mm, naa to heavy, 4mm yep that will be fine.
While I am thinking about such an important thing I am rudely interrupted by a women winging about sore throat... like I care.... 4mm yep.. that will be good.
"doctor said I need to rinse my throat with salt" OK, now you have my attention...:woohoo: Stop, stop, I can help with that... the salt rinse thing!

WHAT CAN I SAY... wrong type of salt.

So in great despair I headed for the garage, a place of solitude.
Fuck me the fridge talks..... "beeeeer" "Beeeer" hell need to make that stop. On investigation opening the door every 30min stops the noise.

I added 3 pieces of steel to the bike stand...

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00098_zps3614fef5.jpg (http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00098_zps3614fef5.jpg.html)

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00102_zps6cd6c524.jpg (http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00102_zps6cd6c524.jpg.html)

What's left.... lots! need to amuse myself. That 3.5ton jack is next months spending, Oh and so were the rims from the UK.. so FA spending for 6 weeks. But that's Ok.. means I can finish this stand and start stripping the RG.

Good thing the donation should be coming in by then... might be able to give up work.

Arronduke

24th May 2013, 22:24

Had to add this........

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=338143932954959

I am laughing just writing this!

And this dude could be at a round about near you!

NAR RG500

27th May 2013, 17:29

Drew

27th May 2013, 19:33

Nice thread Arron,

Quite the character you are! Hope your wife does not read!

When you get enough donations, save some money or sell one of your children then I will be able to rebuild your crankshafts for you.

I have drawn up a jig and it's being manufactured as we speak. Looking forward to doing the first set! Have lots to do. First set will be Damian's using the Marinello bearings and seals.

Cheers

NeilAlways wondered about this. So you can split any piece off the shaft using a jig, without having to pull the whole thing down?

Just musing, not likely to ever have the coin for an RG500.

NAR RG500

27th May 2013, 19:57

Always wondered about this. So you can split any piece off the shaft using a jig, without having to pull the whole thing down?

Just musing, not likely to ever have the coin for an RG500.

Do you mean without pulling the whole crank apart?

Cheers

Drew

27th May 2013, 20:00

Do you mean without pulling the whole crank apart?

Cheers

Yeah.

Not so bad on twin like the RG cranks, but can you pull the middle pin out of a TZ750, or the middle big end from a GT750 without starting at the outside and working toward it.

NAR RG500

27th May 2013, 20:09

Yeah.

Not so bad on twin like the RG cranks, but can you pull the middle pin out of a TZ750, or the middle big end from a GT750 without starting at the outside and working toward it.

You have to start from the outside I'm afraid, the cranks are very similar to any conventional parallel twin two stroke. The inner webs are one machined item so the crank pin can not be replaced. The jig I am making is used for indexing the pins with the mark on the drive gear. The pins must be at 90 degrees to the mark on the drive gear and of course 180 degrees apart. There are no splines or anything to help with this, hence the need for a jig. When installing the cranks you must align marks on the front and rear cranks.

Cheers

geoffm

27th May 2013, 21:27

Impulse rims will fit the RG. Youo need a spacer for the rear sprocket, and RZ350 disks on the front, turned down 5mm or so as I recall. Get the ones without slots.
17" front, but not much wider than standard, 140 rear.

Drew

27th May 2013, 23:20

You have to start from the outside I'm afraid, the cranks are very similar to any conventional parallel twin two stroke. The inner webs are one machined item so the crank pin can not be replaced. The jig I am making is used for indexing the pins with the mark on the drive gear. The pins must be at 90 degrees to the mark on the drive gear and of course 180 degrees apart. There are no splines or anything to help with this, hence the need for a jig. When installing the cranks you must align marks on the front and rear cranks.

CheersOK, thanks. I understand now.

gammaguy

28th May 2013, 02:51

Arronduke

28th May 2013, 20:57

Nice thread Arron,

Quite the character you are! Hope your wife does not read!

When you get enough donations, save some money or sell one of your children then I will be able to rebuild your crankshafts for you.

I have drawn up a jig and it's being manufactured as we speak. Looking forward to doing the first set! Have lots to do. First set will be Damian's using the Marinello bearings and seals.

Cheers

Neil

hay Neil, that's real cool.
I have the same bearings and seals... the bearings look good.

That will be very cool if you were able to help with the cranks.
Once the stand is finished... its RG time.

Arronduke

28th May 2013, 21:03

Impulse rear rim on my RG....yup did that years ago...runing a 130/80 17 Metz radial...handles and sticks...anything much wider and its upper exhaust pipes spacing out time,and then them lovely frame side covers get all hot and bothered and melt...well mine did anyway that's the 400 which makes 76HP more power=more heat dun it.......(ask the SV650 guys which side of my RG they saw at Ruapuna,hint,it wasn't the front).and that's not a good look is it.

As for cranks the Japanese actually thought everyone would buy a new one instead of rebuilding them huh.

I have a few stashed away.....but rebuilding them is not hard and all the parts are still easily available

Wheres my engine stands?:baby:

I am hoping that the GSX600f rims will not have this issue! My current rim is a 150 so a 160 should be fine.
Bike stand... hmm just need to get them powder coat and work out a cost.

I have a few stashed away.....but rebuilding them is not hard and all the parts are still easily available
Good to know!

Arronduke

29th May 2013, 22:47

Got home to a nice surprise.

No the wife has not left, and the kids are still there.... So what else could I be happy about?

There was a big parcel at the gate.... hmmm
<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00103_zps2a1a672b.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00103_zps2a1a672b.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00103_zps2a1a672b.jpg"/></a>

what could these be...? looks like from the UK..

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00104-1_zpsac74c7a7.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00104-1_zpsac74c7a7.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00104-1_zpsac74c7a7.jpg"/></a>

Nicely wrapped rims I am thinking... I am impressed so far with the effort of wrapping.
OK check this out!!! have you EVER seen parts from wreaker that is cleaned, wrapped, labelled and ready to go?

First off its in a nice cardboard box, with lots of padding, sounds like a expensive dildo...but NO... keep your fly shut in my thread!
<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00105_zpsb73f6af7.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00105_zpsb73f6af7.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00105_zpsb73f6af7.jpg"/></a>

So I un wrap and what do I find?
Each part is shrink wrapped with a decryption and number... very impressive.and the bits..

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00106_zpsd1746c69.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00106_zpsd1746c69.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00106_zpsd1746c69.jpg"/></a>

nice and straight... clean with all the bits.

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00110_zps94bb4278.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00110_zps94bb4278.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00110_zps94bb4278.jpg"/></a>

Shame we cant order women like that.... BUT who would fuck the short, fat ugly ones? We all cant have the ones with big tits...small ass... and does not look like a monkey.

bimotabob

1st June 2013, 12:59

The Reibz

1st June 2013, 23:23

Just wondering mate, how much was the postage to get those rims over?

Arronduke

4th June 2013, 20:03

Those rims will come up mint all coloured up.
Hope there will be quality fasteners to hold the rotors on them, no farm gate galv specials - I will send over the quality customs bike police to confiscate the RG till your well again!

I'm ripping off the rusty poop and putting on titanium and since I'm captain poverty i expect no less from yourself ay.

Cool, I could buy the old rusty ones to upgrade what I have!
Haa had to laugh..

I might be able to find so nice galvd bolts to put on the disc... oh that's right I used them on my Kat!:Oops:

Arronduke

4th June 2013, 20:11

Just wondering mate, how much was the postage to get those rims over?

From memory the rims were FA... sorry cant remember the freight cost... it was like 500 beers ago.
All up landed for $530 NZ.

Hmmm brain strain... but the cost would have been about 199 pounds... more than the cost of the rims.

80 pounds for the bits and 199 pounds for shipping = 279pounds = $530 NZ... and NO GST...:headbang:

Arronduke

6th June 2013, 20:22

From memory the rims were FA... sorry cant remember the freight cost... it was like 500 beers ago.
All up landed for $530 NZ.

Hmmm brain strain... but the cost would have been about 199 pounds... more than the cost of the rims.

80 pounds for the bits and 199 pounds for shipping = 279pounds = $530 NZ... and NO GST...:headbang:

Cool, nice job... you are one cool dude. !

Drew

6th June 2013, 20:24

Just noticed your signature.

Bucket racers are only one step up from pikeys. I fuckin hate pikeys!

Arronduke

6th June 2013, 20:31

Cool, nice job... you are one cool dude. !

Thanks for the nice comment!
I see you have been following me doing a job on the RG!

I also noticed that you have not donated? Are you poor... do you own a bike? if not fuck off... other wise sell it and feed my kids.!

DO YOU KNOW... that my children are hungry because I spend all out money...on..

Bikes
Babes
Beer!

And fuck me I don't have to make breakfast for my children anymore ... Oh and lunch... hea hea no more.. yea soon right up to decial 10!
When are they going to have them for the school holidays? now that will rock! Or even better we just get the weekend visits.. haaa

Goo the Lefties... Vote Greens!

Oh and dentate you tight wad!

Arronduke

6th June 2013, 20:54

Been busy, going trail riding in Taupo after work tomorrow, sat ride... had to get organised.
... cant understand why I had to help, what did the women have planned after dinner and putting the kids to bed? Hell she had a whole hour to kill before her bed time.
Some women are just lazy, unorganised and plan selfish! Me help..!haa

Told her that one of the boys bikes wont start... boy starts getting upset. Super Dad to the rescue... hee and NOOO helping.
Garage, beer and bikes...

Bottled a NZ Pale Ale tonight , Larger and Summer Ale sill in temp controlled environment waiting to be bottled.
Currently drinking a Cider!

Project update..

In the garage not helping, drinking cider:beer:
Stand needs some tread plate for the top... $320 notes cant afford that! So it looks like its going to have a plywood top... :weep: :weep: bummer. But I have nothing left to sell. Kids are gone and the wife is hanging on to their pictures. Told her we could get $2 for the frames but she wont let go!

Obviously I have a heap of cheap plywood under my house from packing creates (work) , even build a new shed for the ride on using them.
So that will work but looks shit.

First compromise... (Noted) I do wonder how many I will have to make!

Then its pull apart.. weld, reassemble, pull apart, paint, re assemble.

Arronduke

6th June 2013, 21:20

Just noticed your signature.

Bucket racers are only one step up from pikeys. I fuckin hate pikeys!

3rd place... 2hr bucket ....! now that's class!

NAR RG500

7th June 2013, 20:42

Then its pull apart.. weld, reassemble, pull apart, paint, re assemble.[/QUOTE]

That's what you are supposed to be doing to the bike! :brick:

Arronduke

21st June 2013, 21:37

Its been a little while since my last confession!

I have watched... "Purity Blues" a shit TV series wife had recorded... young girls growing up in the 70's...not interested. But as I walked in to the kitchen I could hear this TV series... first episode... and this high school surfer dude just fingered this chick and then let his mates sniff his finger. Hooked.!

Drunk too many beers and made an ass of myself...

Spent too much money on bike bits...

Advertised used boys undies... well fuck me some sickooo's buy used women undies..(Grant)..... there has to be a premium for selling used boy undies!!!! OK that might be getting carried away telling a good story :eek5:.

I can hear U asking... has there been any update to the RG... for Fuck sack that is what this thread is about and don't know about you but there's been FA RG action.
Funny part is I don't even own one...I just get pictures off the net. heeee

Look its got wheels.... and for the dumb asses... this Is the base up side down..

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00115_zpsed75c125.jpg

Arronduke

21st June 2013, 21:57

Mean while been making my boys KX65 trail proof (NOT POOF)

Add washer to exhaust to control exhaust flow... don't have to change jetting. Bigger the hole faster it goes..

Add 10ounce flywheel........ makes the bike much easier to ride, great for trail riding.

CRF70 3.6hp
KX65 14hp

cool... anyway next thing is to add a side stand.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00111_zps49e112db.jpg

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00113_zps7c7f434e.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00113_zps7c7f434e.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00113_zps7c7f434e.jpg"/></a>
Stand is from a from a KX60 just needs a bracket to bolt too, so I'm making one form cardboard and then weld it to the frame.
Only doing it cause the wife is moaning about getting the boys stand... especially straight after getting mine!
And when the boy yelled "women get my stand" that was the end of stand collection!

so yep... need one for the KX250 but they are all so ugly... I recon the old girls got a few more pick ups left in her!

Arronduke

21st June 2013, 22:02

Oh... got cush rubbers from USA... and ordered rear caliper from GSX600F 1998 which comes with mounting bracket.
That's spending no money... $220 NZ.. dam nothing cheap.

Just remember ..... the time it takes to eat a burger 8 children die from starvation in Africa (u pig) .... please donate.. to my project obviously.

SVboy

24th June 2013, 10:24

imdying

24th June 2013, 11:49

Just remember ..... the time it takes to eat a burger 8 children die from starvation in AfricaI must eat more burgers faster.

Arronduke

27th June 2013, 22:02

The work shop stand is now assembled and thanks to free packing creates it has a top.

I have gradually increased the weigh on the table to check my welding is not shit....up and down and up and down.
So first up was the misses... should have been... but its not finished so its not time yet... and only gone up and down twice!

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00127_zps862d8cbd.jpg

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00128_zps97052c5a.jpg

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00125_zps3eedd91d.jpg

And its the bucket and I have to say its soooo coool. When at full height the top of the bucket was just on 2m high.
Still more work to be done before the RG makes it to the stand.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00123_zpsbc155552.jpg

Next up is tidy up the packing create, and front wheel clamp.
Front wheel clamp is ready for tacking together all going well this will be tomorrow....

facts:

I hate painting
I really hate painting.
painting sux.
If I was a painter... I would be fired.
Thinking about it painters are really odd people, why would you choose to paint?
You can do so many things and not have to paint.
Hell there was that old painter dude... that cut his ear off... painter... see it true.

Arronduke

28th June 2013, 21:46

Had to laugh at the reply's... thanks for replying... especially if it include hummer.!

Next up... wheel clamp and put some polyurethane on the packing create deck. Just starting to think about the wheel clamp thing,

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00132_zpsc067131a.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00132_zpsc067131a.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00132_zpsc067131a.jpg"/></a>

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00133_zps057104c6.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00133_zps057104c6.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00133_zps057104c6.jpg"/></a>

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00134_zps03f9fef8.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00134_zps03f9fef8.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00134_zps03f9fef8.jpg"/></a>

YES turn the nuts and the thing goes sin and out....

Arronduke

28th June 2013, 21:56

Some exciting news... my line in to Japan has start to produce.
Like Star Trek I have made contact.... with a dude in Japan... that specialises in supplying classic Jap parts.

After many emails we have an understanding... RG500 I want to know...!
This here is cool... a gear shift support.

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/gearsupport3_zpsbf1568ba.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/gearsupport3_zpsbf1568ba.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo gearsupport3_zpsbf1568ba.jpg"/></a>

and look it has a ball bearing!

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/gearshiftsupport_zps96d11624.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/gearshiftsupport_zps96d11624.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo gearshiftsupport_zps96d11624.jpg"/></a>

Its cool and only costs $160nz plus getting here...

Arronduke

28th June 2013, 22:00

Some exciting news... my line in to Japan has start to produce.
Like Star Trek I have made contact.... with a dude in Japan... that specialises in supplying classic Jap parts.

After many emails we have an understanding... RG500 I want to know...!
This here is cool... a gear shift support.

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/gearsupport3_zpsbf1568ba.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/gearsupport3_zpsbf1568ba.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo gearsupport3_zpsbf1568ba.jpg"/></a>

and look it has a ball bearing!

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/gearshift2_zps613bcbbd.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/gearshift2_zps613bcbbd.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo gearshift2_zps613bcbbd.jpg"/></a>

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/gearshiftsupport_zps96d11624.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/gearshiftsupport_zps96d11624.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo gearshiftsupport_zps96d11624.jpg"/></a>

It is a replacement side cover, looks cast casue only the Japs could do it. Rest of use have to make it.
Cost $200

Arronduke

4th July 2013, 20:52

Looks like I'm talking to myself.... fine I'm used to it.

Right... there was two conditions I had to meet before the RG got stripped...

- Build engine stand
- Build work shop bench

All I can say is.... Yea loving it.

I want to enjoy this rebuild... so in order to do that one must have the fruit....

First up is the engine stand... "ok ready for orders" ;) look is even got plastic feet...

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00138_zpsccd8de61.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00138_zpsccd8de61.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00138_zpsccd8de61.jpg"/></a>

And drums please...

and are you ready...

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00143_zps869862dd.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00143_zps869862dd.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00143_zps869862dd.jpg"/></a>

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00154_zpsf8299dc5.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00154_zpsf8299dc5.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00154_zpsf8299dc5.jpg"/></a>

And the wheel clampy thing... was not sure what to do here so I just made it.
Seems to work.

I just stood there... time to get a beer... soak up the view and the feeling of doing good.

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00154_zpsf8299dc5.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00154_zpsf8299dc5.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00154_zpsf8299dc5.jpg"/></a>

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00152_zps7e5f9d63.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00152_zps7e5f9d63.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00152_zps7e5f9d63.jpg"/></a>

Oh and did I say ... I am very pleased.
After loading the RG on to the table... I just opened a beer and stood there thinking to myself .... man I am sooo cool
Next minute... wife turned up and ruined it all, did not even stop to stroke my ego... NO just walked pasted asking what am I cooking for dinner!

There are two things I seemed to fuck up on the work shop stand ... Looking back I could have got it 200mm lower. And the next was when the bike was on the stand the back lowered 10mm which means the safety support did not get to the highest level, not a major but it needs to be fixed. So I need to cut about 15mm off the bottom of the feet. No major.

unstuck

4th July 2013, 21:09

Good stuff.:niceone: Keep up the good work.:Punk::Punk:

sugilite

5th July 2013, 00:03

Awesome work! :niceone:

Drew

5th July 2013, 05:51

Looks like I'm talking to myself.... fine I'm used to it.

We're watching...:clap:

nzmikey

5th July 2013, 10:01

The only the only thing I can see wrong with this whole set up is .... The fact you drink Lion Red :sick:

unstuck

5th July 2013, 10:12

The only the only thing I can see wrong with this whole set up is .... The fact you drink Lion Red :sick:

:laugh::laugh: Thats one of the first things I noticed too. leon ruge we used to call it.:Punk:

gammaguy

5th July 2013, 16:20

I've been selling those shift supports for years,fitted one to my Gamma and they work superbly

How much for those engine stands...delivered to Shakytown?

Arronduke

10th July 2013, 22:15

I've been selling those shift supports for years,fitted one to my Gamma and they work superbly

How much for those engine stands...delivered to Shakytown?

Stand I will PM U...(want to do the job BUT really struggling to make an effort....) ( cost $85 laser cut steel and $35 powder coating , 1hr effort...) = and funny plastic feet, welding rods, beer...

So these thing cant be cheap...... about $200 plus freight.

Arronduke

10th July 2013, 22:21

[QUOTE=gammaguy;1130574465]I've been selling those shift supports for years,fitted one to my Gamma and they work superbly

Cool, if you can supply cheaper.. great, " may you have many sons."
I always enjoy meeting people who have lots to offer and who watching... moral of the story... you never know whoooo's" watching.... "wife"! "how did you untie yourself...!"

Arronduke

10th July 2013, 22:27

RG500 taking its clothes off...

First up... I'm going straight to the rear end... I am going to deal to that ass.
Spread it some, make it look more attractive,

Brought the bitch some new legs... OK OK might be fatter but ... OK brought the bitch some fat legs... never a good look.
Guilty .... looking to see how this will work.

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00072_zpsfb77fa93.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00072_zpsfb77fa93.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00072_zpsfb77fa93.jpg"/></a>

YES have been doing something besides drink piss.

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00068_zpsf63efc50.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00068_zpsf63efc50.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00068_zpsf63efc50.jpg"/></a>

Arronduke

10th July 2013, 22:31

Some more money spent...

not new... purchased with blackmail.

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00076_zps4b00b051.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00076_zps4b00b051.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00076_zps4b00b051.jpg"/></a>

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00074_zps13ce6428.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00074_zps13ce6428.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00074_zps13ce6428.jpg"/></a>

Arronduke

10th July 2013, 22:32

Oh and some work on the KAT for the KIWI... so this will dominate for a while... so no updates until the RG makes back to the block..!... unless I get bored..!

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00079_zps22f146fb.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00079_zps22f146fb.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00079_zps22f146fb.jpg"/></a>

unstuck

11th July 2013, 07:42

:clap::clap::clap::clap::2thumbsup

Drew

11th July 2013, 08:20

:Punk::Punk:Still watching. I know you like us to tell you that we're reading the latest degradation of wife and machine....And liver.

fridayflash

11th July 2013, 09:14

bloody hell! just read your entire thread to date, lotsa laughs mate! god i always wanted an rg500!
i had an x7250 an rd350lc an ns400r, logical next step woulda been rg500 but never happened<_<
keep up the good work, this is motivational stuff!...especially the relationship advice ;)
gunna tell the missus to read this, make her feel gulty for how poorly im treated hehe

unstuck

11th July 2013, 09:32

fridayflash

11th July 2013, 10:52

...or a pussy in prison :psst::psst: :sunny:

sugilite

11th July 2013, 11:39

ARRRGGG! Du8de get that diesel off that stand before I slash my wrists. We need more of that RG500 heavenlyness! :lol:

HenryDorsetCase

11th July 2013, 14:55

Build motorbike work shop stand.
Build RG motor stand
Accumulate parts while still allowing the kids to eat and Sallies undies.

Expected time frame..

Depends on… beer, money and time.

OK I am confused. Is Sally your "misses"? Is it her that needs the underwear? If so, put up some pics and we'll have a whip round to buy her some. OR is your wife's name not Sally, but you shop for her underwear at the Sallies? because second hand underwear, while cheap, is not really good value. also ewwwwww.

enquiring minds....

Arronduke

11th July 2013, 22:40

OK I am confused. Is Sally your "misses"? Is it her that needs the underwear? If so, put up some pics and we'll have a whip round to buy her some. OR is your wife's name not Sally, but you shop for her underwear at the Sallies? because second hand underwear, while cheap, is not really good value. also ewwwwww.

enquiring minds....

Dude... you obviously don't have your priorities sorted... while yes to Sally's undies (Not the granny style) do seem appealing though... :bleh: cant say I have developed the need to remove fish stains from the hammock .. a good set of lips can leave quite a mess..:blah:

Nooo the Sallys is the Salvation Army... they sell secondhand stuff perfect for the wife... and the extra cash is funnelled to the appropriate place... the garage.

Always voted Act... going to vote Mana now... hell they will have feeding at school... no breakfast and lunch, it is going to save a fortune. Get ride of school uniforms (personal choice is stolen with the uniform) and cheap sallys clothes for them also.

:drinkup:

HenryDorsetCase

12th July 2013, 09:23

I worship you as a god.

Arronduke

12th July 2013, 21:11

I worship you as a god.

Acknowledged..!

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unstuck

12th July 2013, 21:18

Mohawks everywhere, I must of died and gone to heaven sometime today. :devil2:

Arronduke

12th July 2013, 21:49

Sitting here thinking... can I be bothered...

Seems so...

Tonight... working on a set of carbs...

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00089_zps20b24c36.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00089_zps20b24c36.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00089_zps20b24c36.jpg"/></a>

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00104_zps41305aca.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00104_zps41305aca.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00104_zps41305aca.jpg"/></a>

One more to put you asleep...

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00126_zps6b7aa9b9.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00126_zps6b7aa9b9.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00126_zps6b7aa9b9.jpg"/></a>

That shit there is paint.... this sonic machine is cool.... 3 beers and the paints coming off. Did not expect the paint to come off... just wanted to clean the carbs. Guess what... carbs clean. I wish it was this easy to have the house cleaned.

Fuck me.... I cleaned this carb in 45min... I think to myself... 45min I could clean half a house. After all cleaning to a man is make space. We do not care about the dust on the picture frames. HIDE all the shit... space, job done!.

Walk in house.... trip over scooter..... step across yesterdays lunch form the younger villain. Remember to keep an eye on the older convict....

That there is good , clean fun.... ..

I am thinking very highly of that cleaner thing...

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00123_zps04fa8a2c.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00123_zps04fa8a2c.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00123_zps04fa8a2c.jpg"/></a>

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00124_zps6672754e.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00124_zps6672754e.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00124_zps6672754e.jpg"/></a>

That there is clean..... no corn to be found.
We all know it makes no sense but if you momentarily lose control of the bowl there is always corn.. just one. hell its been three week since I ate corn and there it is.... looking at you.

Arronduke

12th July 2013, 22:14

:Punk::Punk:Still watching. I know you like us to tell you that we're reading the latest degradation of wife and machine....And liver.

Why is this not the name of this thread.

unstuck

13th July 2013, 08:17

Shit, that cleaner does a good job. :headbang::headbang: how big is the inside of it?

SPman

13th July 2013, 13:32

:Punk::Punk:Still watching. I know you like us to tell you that we're reading the latest degradation of wife and machine....And liver.
Noticed the Lion Red on the bench..........

NAR RG500

13th July 2013, 18:51

You really are a sick fucker drinking Lion red. Or are they just the bottles you use for the brew?

Where did you get the ultrasonic machine from? I'm looking at getting one. What did you use for a solution in it?

Cheers

Arronduke

17th July 2013, 20:42

Shit, that cleaner does a good job. :headbang::headbang: how big is the inside of it?

The inside of the ultra sonic thing is 250 or 300 long cant remember but its 250 deep and 250 wide.
Holds 5.7l

I thought... small tank cant hold that much fluid.

Funny thing is it did! never would have guessed.

Arronduke

18th July 2013, 23:00

The inside of the ultra sonic thing is 250 or 300 long cant remember but its 250 deep and 250 wide.
Holds 5.7l

I thought... small tank cant hold that much fluid.

Funny thing is it did! never would have guessed.

OK.. 150 x 150... x 300 ..still need to check but its not 250... 150. my guess

Arronduke

18th July 2013, 23:19

OK.. 150 x 150... x 300 ..still need to check but its not 250... 150. my guess

Hell... what ever I was smoking last night made ever thing big.

unstuck

19th July 2013, 07:07

Hell... what ever I was smoking last night made ever thing big.

Yeah, can make me delusional too.:nya::nya: Cheers man, never had anything to do with them, but I am liking the results your getting.:headbang::headbang:

yod

28th July 2013, 23:06

bored.

update please.

Arronduke

1st August 2013, 20:59

bored.

update please.

Haa nice post... straight to the point. None of this PC shit... I was going to start a garage thread... seems I'm not always working on the RG... but your desperate cry for an answer meant I had to reply... cant have my fellow bike dues and dudesss if there are any reading want to administer some self harm....BUT .... my bet if there are they any dudesss reading they will be red head lesbian brick layers. Don't know about you but these babes never entered my wet dreams.... :no::no::no::no::no::no::no::no::no::no::no:

Arronduke

1st August 2013, 21:01

One for the road...
GSXR1100 (86),RG500 (86),KAT 1150 (81),KX250 (92),FXR BUCKET .....

Might be make some changes here........ tomorrow I will know. :confused:

Arronduke

29th August 2013, 20:46

Its been 4 weeks since my last confession.

In this time I have purchased a new exhaust for my Katana.. after getting a large ultrasonic cleaner for the carbs to rebuild them, re jetting etc. I like the kat and cant wait to do a 1230 kit in to it. Unfortunately that exhaust cost me ALL my bike money until next year. So anything spent from here to next year needs to be small domination, sound like food and cant be located within 1km of a whore shop, whops I mean workshop....,:cool:

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00091update_zpsa308f7a6.jpg

Oh and purchased a new bike..... cant post pictures as you lot will be toooo bored. But I know it will be great.

Arronduke

29th August 2013, 21:15

BUT wait .... I have started work on the RG again, I know its been a month.

Bit like the wife, the month thing.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00010_zpsde2a2993.jpg

There is a story about getting to this point.... (I like full stops... get used to them...) ( and F to full stop haters!) ... not much of a story really... Who has a sex life like that?

Started stripping the front end. I like it when I am surprised by a bike. Stripping the front end / top fairing is something I have not done before on this bike and I enjoyed it. Hell Stripping things is cool...:bleh:

For example the regulator is mounted next to the horn... WTF. A search for what seemed hours... enginnerring shops for nipples, packaing companies for boxes and the regulator was mounted there for weight distribution front to rear wheel ratio that was sooo important in formula one. But hey cant believe everything you read.

Arronduke

29th August 2013, 21:24

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00122_zps05a74d09.jpg

Found this, broken top fairing bracket and I either need to get another one or fix this one.
Fact is if you take the second option, buy a new one then you might as well have a go at fixing it cause the end result is the same as buying a new one.
Unless you have learned some thing and you fix it... well if that happens you are entitled to walk around your house in the morning telling your wife..." I want some eggs"..! NOW BITCH!

Arronduke

29th August 2013, 21:39

IF you were going to fix it, hell I like eggs.

Then you had better clean it first.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00123_zps54bfa0aa.jpg
Obviously everyone has a bead blaster in their shed... don't they? other wise you would let your wife park her car in the man shed..! you dont do you... do you?

Arronduke

29th August 2013, 21:44

That gold shit on that bracket is it glue.. NO its brazing and that is only done by hand. No robot building this bike.
OK my options are try and braze it, weld it , glue it or leave it like it was....

Hell it must have been like that the whole time I owned it, 10yrs ... F me

I am going to try and weld it back together.

Arronduke

29th August 2013, 21:52

Ask your misses... it all about the way you hold it, squeeze it, push it, and it ant always easy after a good oil change where the box ant good to ride because its dry as hell and collecting dust.
A great time to spend time in your shed... women's car obviously outside.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00125_zps72aa0d01.jpg

did I mention its about how you hold it................................................ .................................................. .................................................. ........F

Arronduke

29th August 2013, 22:05

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00126_zps0364e77f.jpg

welded one side and then the other...

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00127_zps81a52873.jpg
give it a quick blast.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00127_zpscf5279da.jpg

Tig welding at it's best... Ok its been a long time since I welded pipe for Fonterra... "Did I say that out loud"

Arronduke

29th August 2013, 22:24

WTF... that there is a regulator.
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00138_zps5f94ba25.jpg
1986

gammaguy

30th August 2013, 03:33

Axially dude the engineers at Suzuki took the RG very seriously,and it was decided that anywhere behind the radiator/exhaust/engine on the Gamma was a little hot and crowded like a nightclub toilet.

So they put the regrec out in the nice cool air out front instead of all back of the bus and shit

Ever heard of a gamma four cooking its regrec?

Exactly

Oh yeah and if I had a dollar for every one of those fairing/instrument mount brackets I have replaced on my RG........

Drew

30th August 2013, 07:00

Looking at the wheels on your bike. They look the same as the wheels on a CBR600 Hurricane....Except an inch the wrong size at both ends.

Did you buy some 17" wheels yet, could be another option and few people would notice.

gammaguy

31st August 2013, 02:54

The rears are already 17

A nice conversion is GSX400X wheels,the rear is slightly wider at 3inches and the front is a 17

Go much wider on the rear and there are exhaust clearance issues

Drew

31st August 2013, 10:10

The rears are already 17

A nice conversion is GSX400X wheels,the rear is slightly wider at 3inches and the front is a 17

Go much wider on the rear and there are exhaust clearance issuesThe CBR rear is 3.5"X17". It looks really similar to the standard one, so I figured it might be an option to look into.

Only problem with the front, is the stupid placement of brake disk mounts. The diameter of the bolt holes from the center is huge, there wouldn't be an easy way of putting on decent disks and calipers to match I imagine.

Arronduke

1st September 2013, 17:39

Arronduke

1st September 2013, 18:30

I have a small problem. And NO its not that my knob is small.
I had to buy it... the RG build while its on the bench may slow down more.

As I said I could not help my man urges... wife said NO so I purchased it.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00121_zps2ebc3a80.jpg

New rings.. and only 33,000km so its mint... yes yes the side covers are missing... soon to arrive. I HOPE.

But cant stay mint.

With way will I go.?

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/GirlsDay044_zpsc63f8eee.jpg

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/GS1100ez-Front-Right-Waters_zps45e5e99a.jpg

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/GirlsDay114_zpsd239ecee.jpg

BUT I must concentrate on the RG...

Dam like the new GSX, add some GSXR running gear and a 1166 kit, cams and RS36 cartbs and under 10sec quarter mile ...ok a few more bits but you get the idea.

I like the black version but resale is not as good as standard colours... hmmm paint it black and steal a gang patch.?
DID I mention the GSX1100EZ has the largest head light ever made! Known as the train light... I like trains too... ok I lie.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/1100_lowrider_1_zpsf8b2f9a6.jpg

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/1100_lowrider_5_zpsf5f16b60.jpg

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/1100_lowrider_3_zps076bdee0.jpg

My guess is I have enough standard looking shit... black looks good. One of my best roots was in this direction... should of made that women a cup of tea.

mean while the EZ is parked up and work is happening to the RG..

Pumba

1st September 2013, 21:11

Fuck I think you need to write a relationship guidance book. Wouldn't be long, might not save any relationships (might stop a few starting).

Dont do black. DONT do fucking chrome. Love the red bike, that is fucking sex.

Arronduke

4th September 2013, 20:29

Mean while ... I am working on the RG.
Been working on the front, there was always some rust and bent shit down there and I was always nervous about looking there.

So pull it apart I did, first up a (now if I was talking about your misses... what would you be thinking?) broken bit of plastic with a metal thread on it just falls out. I know it ant good but what will I find?

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/headlight3_zps0b8a38d3.jpg

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/frontendframe3sep_zps2b8f2a7a.jpg

who's got keen eyes... what's in this picture?
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/headlight4_zpsaf44d61a.jpg

Arronduke

4th September 2013, 20:51

You know it will be looking quite different.

YES I have already found replacement plastic light surround as mine WHICH was rooted. I have new rubber bead to glue on and after bead blasting and powder coating it will be like new.

Arronduke

6th September 2013, 20:37

Not a part I am enjoying.

Easy to just follow stuff which is just what I wanted to do. The least thinking the better.
Trying to measure spacers for the new rim ... not easy.

Centre the rim and the work out where the sprocket needs to be and the rear caliper. They all have to line up.

This is the worst part. I get to here and you have brought the wrong front end and cant sell it...a right little stuff up.
And not my first... there are many.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00074_zpsb4d2a859.jpg

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00075_zps30b2c449.jpg

Notice the big fucking gap... first thing I noticed on my wife !!!!

and now I need a gap.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00076_zpsa8087b87.jpg

Arronduke

6th September 2013, 20:43

Are you paying attention BOY..

What does the digital calliper average.....how many times do you need to measure it!
Your pissing me off!!!

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00085_zps9cf3db57.jpg

And he said he was getting tired... hell it was only 5:30 and it was the 13th beer he just had to hand out!

gwynfryn

6th September 2013, 22:07

Tell him to vote labour as the minimum wage will go up.

Arronduke

7th September 2013, 08:20

Tell him to vote labour as the minimum wage will go up.

Great reply... had to laugh.!
Soo true the working wage is going to save the world.

Drew

7th September 2013, 08:50

Does the standard RG sprocket carrier not fit the new wheel?

You can have the face of the new one machined a bit to give you a little tolerance, anything more than a mm or two though and the seal won't go in proper....which means seating the bearing further in and moocho fucking around. Where the sprocket bolts on to it can be taken back quite a bit.

Centering the wheel is most important, then pack the sprocket out from the carrier if it needs to come further out.

Have to do that shit all the time when messing around with buckets. Every time you repower the horrible little pieces of shit, the process starts again.

Drew

7th September 2013, 08:51

Are you paying attention BOY..

Forgot to ask when I saw this picture, how are your wife and my kids?

Arronduke

9th September 2013, 21:54

Forgot to ask when I saw this picture, how are your wife and my kids?

Explains a lot, maybe thats why he can read and it took me 15yrs to learn! I hope you paid like the others.... no free rides at my house :mad:

Arronduke

9th September 2013, 21:56

To add. From what I have found out sooo far.

I need to machine 11mm of the sprocket carrier face.
Before I start machining I need the following.

Front and rear sprockets 520 conversion and am thinking 16 front and 42 rear. To add I have the Ellis gearbox upgrade with a taller first gear so need to make sure this combo will work.
I need a rear brake caliper, disk and carrier. All 1998 on I assume to get the rear rim in the right place.

Once I have the rear carrier, 520 chain setup and machine 11mm of the sprocket carrier I can start trying to work out the spacers I will need. Anyone happen to have these handy?

All advise greatly accepted.

Drew

9th September 2013, 22:09

Arronduke

12th September 2013, 20:14

520 chain is the same pitch as 525. So if you started with that then there will be plenty of advice on what gearing other people run when they go 17inch rear hoop.

Gearbox mod, if only different in first gear shouldn't alter final drive gearing. RGV 250sp had a taller first gear, but similar final drive if I recall correctly.

11mm is a lot. Are you still gonna get a 160 hoop on there without it rubbing?

11mm is big if we are talking about a clitoris and fuck all if that what you see taking a piss.

But it is looking about right. The old rear tyre was a 150 so I should be able to insert a 160 ok.

Need funds... when you coming around again I need some cash. Need rear caliper and 520 sprockets and chain to make spacers. Oh well back to the EZ while I save some funds.
Christmas is coming soon, always a good time for a cash injection. The kids always get a few dollars sent to them in Christmas cards from the family... and they think no one remembers them haaa.

Drew

12th September 2013, 20:21

11mm is big if we are talking about a clitoris and fuck all if that what you see taking a piss.

But it is looking about right. The old rear tyre was a 150 so I should be able to insert a 160 ok.

Need funds... when you coming around again I need some cash. Need rear caliper and 520 sprockets and chain to make spacers. Oh well back to the EZ while I save some funds.
Christmas is coming soon, always a good time for a cash injection. The kids always get a few dollars sent to them in Christmas cards from the family... and they think no one remembers them haaa.Sweet.

I'm probably just missing something simple. But I'd have thought you would space the wheel in the center first, then figure out how much to chop of the sprocket carrier.

That's how I had to do it on the bucket at least.

NAR RG500

14th September 2013, 15:47

Arronduke

14th September 2013, 23:12

Hey mate,

You can do it all by measuring the original wheel and spacers then transferring it all to the new rim and subtracting and adding the values to center it. Not really even much need to put it in the swing arm. That guy on the RGV forums that put those wheels on his bike made a nice write up with all you need to know for spacers and machining!

Cheers

Yep sounds perfect. One small issue the old rims are not original. They are one off 500 sets of wider rims built early for the Rg500. front 3 / 16 and rear 4.0 / 18.
But you can't get front tyres now. Gone in the inorganic today!

50mm from outside of the swingarm to rear sprocket face is my starting point.

Edit... the old front is soo wide its like thinking about fucking a fatty... you look at it and then say ... bugger what's your name. No tyre but the 91 Blade tyre fits and that not good.

Arronduke

14th September 2013, 23:30

A police officer stops a blonde for speeding and asks her very nicely if he could see her license. She replies in a huff, "I wish you guys would get your act together. Just yesterday you take away my license and then today you expect me to show it to you!"

Enough shit< I went for a ride... no point keeping it in the shed, leaking!! :buggerd:

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/nudebiker_zpsa786db31.jpg

gammaguy

15th September 2013, 01:24

RG400 is 525 chain

So you know what you need to do......

Arronduke

18th September 2013, 21:54

RG400 is 525 chain

So you know what you need to do......

Looking at B&C Express ...UK

Hi

We can help you with these, just enter the following part numbers into the search box on our website.

Front: 385U-520-16
Rear: 199-520-42HA
Chain: 520APX-120

This Tsubaki Alpha Xring chain is in fact a road chain that works very well with 600 sports bikes on the track, if you would prefer a 1000cc Race chain you can order either the Tsubaki (520PRO-120) or the slightly cheaper Renthal version (520RR4-120)

The 2 race chains come with 120 links however the APX chain that we recommend can be supplied in any length so if you decide that for example 110 link will be plenty long enough for the range of sprockets you have then just alter the part number (520APX-110)

For additional rivet links please order RL520APX (Or RL520PRO, RL520RR4 depending on your decsision)

Hope this helps, any problems just give drop us an email

Started pricing it up...

Seems so simple but there are many things one has to think about when buying a new chain and sprockets... no not you Loser on the GN250. Those sprocket will rust away before you wear them out. The chain on a GN250 is like a set of 50yr old flaps.. You can thrash them and they will never wear out.

Arronduke

18th September 2013, 22:07

Some info on what sprockets to use..

I run 16-44 520 on my RGV500 Talon hardened steel on the front and Renthal alloy on the rear, that is quite low, with the tyres fitted its geared for just under 130mph @ 10500 you could easily loop it in 2nd if you were a knob, good fun at Cadwell though :spoton:

I think Sean has some 500 sprockets in stock, that's where I got mine, give him a ring.

As Jim said it is best to use the biggest front you can to spread the load over more teeth, it also gives the chain an easier life as you are turning it through a larger circumference, and then go bigger on the rear to get the gearing, of course this isn't good if your tying to save 50 grammes here and there.

Also can you believe this shit.

This is were it all started.

and

If you view gearing changes as a percentage, 1st gear will only be shorter by the overall percentage change.

Also it is best to have odd and even numbered sprockets paired together e.g.15/40 or 16/43, to even out wear 'specially on a bike like the RG5 that is firing 2 cylinders together at evenly spaced intervals.

Jim

What the fuck?

Because the torque peaks/pulses are spread out among the number of teeth, rather than arriving on a certain area of teeth in an even cycle. Sprocket teeth are loaded together each time in a cycle equal to the common denominator, even numbers come round much more regularly the those of uneven pairings.

Thus 16/40 divisable by 4 or 8 which is not so good with 2 or 4 evenly spaced cylinders. 15/40 not quite so bad but divisable by 5. Ideally you want to avoid low value denominators, 'specially with aluminium rear sprockets and/or small fronts to spread the loading over the maximum number of teeth.

Jim

and are you serious..!

It's not so much the torque peaks - though they do have a large bearing on the wear, 2 cylinders worse than 4 etc - and how they fall on the tooth pairings, it's the regularity of the teeth pairing up that matters.
Gears suffer the same effects too.

Have a odd toothed sprocket in the set and it spreads the wear out by a factor of the number of teeth of the smaller smaller sprocket.

Examples;

15/40 gives a denominator of 2.5 (40 divided by 15 = 2.5) Smallest number divisable by 2.5 is 5. So every 5 X 40 (= 200) teeth brings the same teeth pairs together.

15/39 gives 2.6. Smallest number divisable by 2.6 is 13. 13 X 39 = 507. That's just over 2.5 times as many teeth as above.

As engines only go bang every so many degrees this also spreads out the loads, a parallel twin would wear the chain/sprockets faster than a 4 cylinder inline motor (RG5 counts as parallel twin as fires 2 cylinders together, 180° spacing).

A Vee twin complicates matters a bit, but you want to avoid teeth pairings that are close to being divisable by 360°/offset angle - something HD never seemed to worry about it seems, they will wear their sprockets lobe shaped pretty damn quickly given some of the available options.

I should mention that for race bikes all the above is irrelavent, it's drive out of corners and speed that counts, not how long your chain and sprockets last.

HTH

Jim

Ok lost about 1hr ago. Beer only allows me to remember about three sentences , add a calculation and were are down to two.

Arronduke

18th September 2013, 22:18

Need a fresh page here.

The only thing I got out of that was I need to think about sprocket teeth counts. I have a gearbox upgrade and a taller furst gear. So what should I use?

Remember this...

you could easily loop it in 2nd if you were a knob this dude has 16-44 sprocket ratio. I am going with 16-42 at this stage unless I'm talked out off it.! YOU yes YOU ....................................to slow already out of it! :drinkup:

But remember this due is running 100-125 HP rear wheel with this sprocket setup. Me I am looking for 100+ rear wheel and this bike weights 340lbs dry or 150kg. 12kg heaver than a RGV250, about equal to the average beer gut on a RGV.

Drew

19th September 2013, 07:33

Fucken hell. The dude wanking about even and odd numbered sprockets is a cock. What I think he was getting at, is power pulses always going through the same spots on the tyre, and making it wear funny. I would be really impressed if the cranks and tyre were ever running that syncronised. Even if they ever were, it'd be out of whack again as soon as you changed gear.

Anyhoo. Here's how I would do it. Work out the difference in rolling radius between the tyre you used to have, and the tyre you're going to run.

Were you happy with the gearing before? If so, then it's simply a matter of getting what ever percentage slower the rear wheel is now traveling, and make your front sprocket travel that same percentage faster than it does now.

If you weren't happy with the old gearing, do the same thing anyway, but change in the direction you want the gearing to go when you order.

ktm84mxc

20th September 2013, 09:27

Without the use of a custom build gearbox it will always be a compromise , to stop or slow the wheelies lengthen the swing arm and add in a height adjuster while your at it dito the shock linkages etc, Start with a big block of aircraft grade alloy add a CNC miller and work away.
You could always get a Harris frame built for the RG and an XR works gear box to fit it. Add Dymag wheels, Ohlins suspension etc.

Arronduke

20th September 2013, 20:40

Did a bit more today... after work on a Friday, beer in hand and time slips away.... Hell... wake up dude... Im not that boring, cause right now the wife is chasing a 8yr and 10yr old boys around the house trying to get them in to bed.

Women yell, boys run, screams, yelling, death treats, "Into bed... "I DID TURN YOUR ELETRIC BLANKIT ON" loud, "YOU ARE NOT LISTEING" all bad. My head is getting very low and I sneak to the door and shut it. Done, turn up the stereo and I know nothing.

Nothing is my fault. I am innocent.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00068_zps7e237615.jpg

Clean it and use it, or strip it and make it mint?
Only one choice if it can be pulled apart... do so.... works on the wife

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00073_zpsa9f21098.jpg
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00076_zpsbc182e1a.jpg
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00070_zps2dd9e8bc.jpg

D

Arronduke

20th September 2013, 21:49

A good find.
Always thought the bike had a good ass.

Who the fuck would marry one with a bad ass.!!

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00082_zps97521943.jpg
Wifes friends ass don't seem to be any good for moving house, they seem to collapse when asked to do anything.

NAR RG500

22nd September 2013, 20:25

Arronduke

2nd October 2013, 19:53

NR500... you get the nod.

yep - had a laugh.

"its all about the journey, the destination is predictable!."

:apint::motu:

Arronduke

2nd October 2013, 20:05

NR500... correct forgot to add, yes I will be de-carbening ( cleaning the fuck pipes, the oil shit, cant spell the facy word) the pipes with a blow torch to clean them... wife will polish.

fact is I have run out of cash..... I walk to the bank each day... hoping, thinking about my friends, like family you are. Imagine seeing a thread like this end due to a simple thing like CASH. REACH for the phone, pledge make it happen and sleep soundly knowing GOD will acctknowledge your deed. As you get older the more you need to make an effort, reach deeper in to your wallet.

YOU my friend I respect... YOU and me a team!

Arronduke

2nd October 2013, 20:30

Ok this what I am buying, all going well.

Price 440 pounds.

Is it a rip?

I have purchased this in 15min without a beer while being yelled at.
I calculated what each bit would be worth on ebay and ended up thinking , its worth it.

Right I need a story, to explain!

http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv288/begbie21/P1000153_zpsd06c4bbe.jpg

Arronduke

2nd October 2013, 20:36

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00011_zps66a22f73.jpg

Arronduke

2nd October 2013, 20:48

Brought cheap - GS1150 / GSX1135 -

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00011_zps66a22f73.jpg

Yep advertised wrong, purchased cheap.. I expect to sell it for the cost of these part... god help me!
Honest dear...

Arronduke

2nd October 2013, 20:57

This bike has the same motor... in USA its a GS1150 in NZ it was sold as a 1984 -1986 GSX1135EFE
Last of the great engines with a roller crank.

It has taken the Hayabus and Suzuki 30yrs to beat this motor, its that good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1znuwKSMAlY

Arronduke

2nd October 2013, 21:00

Not sure I can earn enough!
To be honest I'm not worthy.

Arronduke

2nd October 2013, 21:09

Description on the parts.... I got for the RG.
My cash spent

these are what I need.. bad, perfect.
Ment to bee that's why I must by them now.

How I got the RG bits...

the add goes.

"I have spent a crazy amount of cash on this front end. heres whats been done

rechromed, refurbed forks £150

gold valve emulators, springs anti dive block off, and fitting £330

new top & bottom bushes, piston damper rings, fork seals. 100+

modified bottoms (done by performance Fab) to take vj22 calipers.

braided lines 60

vj21 290mm discs, i have a used set or a boxed set that have less than 50miles which i will do a seperated post for

gsxr600 k3 master cylinder

striped cleaned and painted vj22 calipers £100 (Modded bolt spacing by performance fab) although i wraped them in a rag and put in a box along with the master cylinder which wasn't done up properly and leaked so paint has pickeled up in places.

wheels from a 1998 Gsx 600f, blasted and painted in 2k new bearings

Bridgstone BT003 tyres (the real sticky ones that they dont do in these sizes anymore £200 a set.

rear wheel spacers, use ome caliper carrier and rear disc, front bolts straight in.

Oh and many weeks of head scratching, driving around picking stuff up, waiting for bits to turn up etc"

So I just got the bits I need... cheap as. :shutup:

Arronduke

2nd October 2013, 21:20

So banned from spending cash... and these are the major bits I need...

1) do right and wait 10 months.
2) Just buy it!

Yep you are correct the answer is just buy it.

Change the enviourment instantly, buy and sell... even a bitch wife cant keep accounts that good.
Buy some thing and make it sound expensive. Then you got legs... until its... what that's not sold

Arronduke

15th October 2013, 20:19

Hell I dribbled on that night...

Waiting for the front end to turn up.

This is what the dude spent in pounds on the front end.
Only way I would spend that kind of cash on a front end is on the wife's front end.. Did I mention the big head light on the GSX1100E.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/RG500forks_zpsaa5c7429.jpg

Yep the dude spent 740 pound, which is equal to $1409 NZ.
And I have mine to sell if I need some cash.

Arronduke

25th October 2013, 19:33

It has been a while since there has been some progress.

Have no funds is like beaning a pisshead and having no beer. Its not good.

Any way the rear end bits are on their way and I have purchased the spacer (new) hard to know if its right, the spacer between rim and rear caliper mount / hanger in perspective to the disc and caliper alignment. Buy the original spacer for like $17USD and I know its mint. Just work out the two outside spacers, and it is done.

Next up is the rear brake caliper. GSX600F / 750F 1998 which needs to be fixed to the swingarm. The RG one floats on the axle and had a bar mounted to the main frame. This one has to be fixed to the swingarm. I don't like that. I want the same but I want to use the later model caliper. Hole centres are the same its just the height of the middle of the axle that's different. Both 17mm.

Obviously the RG has a smaller disc, can I use this with the gsx rear caliper but use the RG axle mounting bracket...
That would mean the GSX caliper is near a straight swap with the RG one... and I think it is. I will investigate.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00002_zps70c54944.jpg

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00004_zps891ea0ce.jpg

This is the set up for a floating rear disc caliper. Looks like it should be lubed, it has a seal on it that would need changing.
Don't want to make this shit, If I can use all this with the later model caliper all good.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00005_zpsebae24be.jpg

Arronduke

6th November 2013, 20:41

The picture above tells all the story.
The one up.... above this post.

The rear caliper mount.... my drug induced great idea seems was as about as useful a women's brain when it comes to fixing anything with more than one screw. Unfortunately I don't seem to meet the bitches that can handle a few screws.

What seemed like the perfect idea turned in to a dog. Next thing you know your married..... and we all know what happens form here!

So back to my caliper exchange idea.. why is the GSX600 one longer than the RG one I want to use? Real simple reason... cause it has to be.
OK enough said about that idea. Ok I might have thought it was to be Revolutionary in the RG world but it seems I am the trillionth person to do this mod and no one thought about that... yea right!

In a nut shell the RG one is too short and the caliper hits the hub.

Arronduke

6th November 2013, 20:43

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00021_zpsf36f764b.jpg

the RG rear caliper mount is to short.. caliper hits the hub.
This means I have to mount the torque bar for the rear caliper to the swingarm and not the frame as standard.

Arronduke

6th November 2013, 21:01

So thanks to this new development I know need to use the 600f caliper and mount, and as we know it does not float.
It is solid mounted. So the torque arm is attached to the swig arm and not the frame. Which means I need to manufacture a caliper torque arm mount to be welded to the swing arm.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00022_zps7d163754.jpg

Here is a picture of the swingarm and frame.
at the bottom is the old mount hole for the arm, now it needs to be attached to the swingarm.

In reality the torque arm needs shortening. To keep the caliper in the bottom position.

Arronduke

6th November 2013, 21:06

A young brunette goes into the doctor's office and says that her body hurts wherever she touches it.

"Impossible," says the doctor. "Show me."

She takes her finger and pushes her boob and screams in agony. She pushes her butt and screams, pushes her clit and screams and so it goes on, everywhere she touches makes her scream.

The doctor says, "You're not really a brunette, are you?"

She says, "No, I'm really a blonde."

"I thought so," he says. "Your finger is broken."

Arronduke

6th November 2013, 21:18

I need to strip the caliper's, it seems the paint has bubbled and is shit.

Cant say I disagree.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00040_zpsa34f2b55.jpg

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00041_zps803aa2e8.jpg

And it seems obvious that the wife cant help, SHIT that reminds me I must go and tell her that she can go to bed, it was just after dinner. She had washed a few thing for the Rg in nice hot water. So I told her to wait, as I had a few more things to do. But forgot to cancel the request. Dam good women was waiting. "should I get some fresh hot water?" was the welcome. Feeling guilty I thought about my car needing a wash but said "no thanks honey its nearly midnight you can run off to bed, after you get me a beer."

Dam marriage is hard work, always a compromise.

:bs:

Arronduke

6th November 2013, 21:37

Stupid people might as well sign off now.
With that sorted... I know the wife will stop reading now!

We can talk front and rear ends, with nipples and sweet spots.

The new front end is here.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00038_zps97633948.jpg
After that build up you would be thinking some thing cool. But this is the front fork, weee little thing.
At least it has up graded insides, bit like a good set of tits. When they are from the early 1980's they sag like hell without some inserts.

Mods to mount the caliper's. Main reason I purchased these puppies. A wise man would measure this up. After all this is info I could not find.......

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00042_zps6cf414c1.jpg

Drew

7th November 2013, 05:38

Just make a longer torque arm for the rear caliper and mount it to the standard position. Fuck welding shit to a swingarm, I like to know that sort of thing is still nice and strong.

ktm84mxc

7th November 2013, 09:39

Drew

7th November 2013, 12:41

Or you could make a carrier that slides on to the swing arm , think of it as a U shape with the axle through the center . Some dirt/ enduro bikes had this set as it makes for quick easy rear wheel removal.
Fuck how easy it is to change a wheel. On a road bike that I was using the rear brake on, I wouldn't advise to do away with the torque arm. Brake action causes the swingarm to try and rotate in the direction of the wheel. Effectively trying to compress the suspension. It promotes the rear of the bike stepping out on the way into corners.

Cool if you wanna impress people with your 'backing it in' skills, not so much if you like your bike lots and want to keep it shiny like.

Pumba

7th November 2013, 19:07

So the FXR is being sold to finance all this shit.

Or did your wife finally stumble onto this thread (and the others) and you need the cash for the medical bills after she beat the shit out of you.

Hobbyhorse

8th November 2013, 14:05

Thanks for the informative and highly entertaining thread.

Arronduke

8th November 2013, 19:50

So the FXR is being sold to finance all this shit.

Or did your wife finally stumble onto this thread (and the others) and you need the cash for the medical bills after she beat the shit out of you.

Pumba,

You could have been paid by my misses to ask this question.
The correct answer is "Dear seems you have been spending too much again", " what have I said about the cost of those women hygiene products?" shaking my head " they cost too much!@#!"

"Don't worry honey, I will sell the FXR to pay back your excessive spending", "I will do this for the family!" "That is the sort of man I am!"

:sherlock:

Short answer "YES"

Arronduke

10th November 2013, 17:05

Been a busy weekend. Had to work ALL day Saturday for free.
Now that made me want 1 or 15 beers at the end of the day.

Not much else to report... Oh nearly forgot to mention just purchased a RZV500R .... wifes not talking to me but it make it easier to hear the radio. Sex is better too... don't have to listens to her moaning and shit. So the NO talky thing is working.

Mean while... a new beer has been brewed. AND a little work on the RG after all that is what this thread is about.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00005_zps4baf60a6.jpg

Both rims in.
Just need spacers and I am good to go.

For the no mechanical skills, dumb ass, I needed to install bearings in to the rims. How would you do this?

1) Freeze the bearings for like 2hrs
2) Use heat gun to heat the hub that you are about to install the bearing
3)Have a socket ready the same size of the outside of the bearing, you want to install it evenly.
4) Place socket on top of bearing, hit with hammer.
5) Drink beer

There you go a quick lesson on installing bearing on anything. Hot to expand and cold to shrink.... sounds like my nob.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00008_zps030770cb.jpg

Its got new feet and I like them.

Arronduke

12th November 2013, 21:08

Hmmm... seems no one noticed the new calipers.
Yep these are the new puppies, very excited, as are the forks. I could not wait to see how they would look.
Must be that same after a boob job, you would have to be hanging to see what they look like.
The anticipation would be the same also.... will they look good or a complete f#ck up?
Will they work better? Will they give positive feed back or feel old and spongy and a complete waste of money?

It is often said, give up on the old shit and just get something newer... and here I am...

Drew

13th November 2013, 05:34

Must be that same after a boob job, you would have to be hanging to see what they look like.
The anticipation would be the same also.... will they look good or a complete f#ck up?
Will they work better? Will they give positive feed back or feel old and spongy and a complete waste of money?

It is often said, give up on the old shit and just get something newer... and here I am...They certainly don't feel old and saggy. They only look good when the woman is in a natural position. Arms up or out, and the skin pulls tight. Then it's like a couple basket balls taped onto her chest.

And they're hard to squeeze together to...ya know...give her some free jewelery.

Arronduke

13th November 2013, 21:06

They certainly don't feel old and saggy. They only look good when the woman is in a natural position. Arms up or out, and the skin pulls tight. Then it's like a couple basket balls taped onto her chest.

And they're hard to squeeze together to...ya know...give her some free jewelery.

No comment... My Nana had a lovely purl necklace...

Looking for a RG speedo drive and front wheel spacers.
Going to get the rear sprocket carrier machined tomorrow, I will do it or the old bugger at work will.
Old bugger is option one.

minus 11mm... from memory.

Arronduke

13th November 2013, 21:10

Dont think its an 17'... (dude is talking about my old front tyre... called the sausage)

Well there are two front wheels that fits straight in. (same speedodrive and bearings) Has curved spokes.
The cheapest is an gsxf600 wheel of an 89(?) to an 97-er. You wil have an 3.0 inch wheel for 110/70-17 tires. Discs wont fit so an smal bracket has to be made for taking the 290 mm discs of the gsxf600 stock wheel. I believe people here take early gsxr nissin calipers.

Rear will be the gsxf600 wheel of the 89-97-er. It will be an 3.5 inch wheel which can take 150 or perhapswide tires. But the will be a pretty balloontire in my opinion.
160/60 is for an 4.5 inch rim. 170/60 for an 5 inch and 180/55 for an 5.5 rim.
The disc of the rg5 will fit witghout problems. So the oem brake can be used. The chain will need a correct allignment. Its not a straight fit!!! Believe spacer is needed.
Its not expensive. Wheels can be picked for 10-20 pounds each. Bracket a few tenners and calipers for a few tenners also. Painting will be the most expensive part i think.

The other possibility is of the newer gsxf600. (model 98-2001). I did this also. (has straight spokes).
Front fits straight in (same bearings and speedodrive) and the discs of the early model (89-97 or 98-01 can be used. Theyre the same.
You will have an 3.5 inch wheel so all modern tires can be used! (that whay i choose this option). The weights are the same as the early gsxf wheel. I measured
everything. Again brackets have to be made for the bigger brakediscs of 290 mm. Wheel costs a bit more for a secondhand. about 30-60 pounds.

The rear is a bit more difficult. The alligment of the chain isnt ok so i took the cushdrive of the early model or newer model gsxf (dunno anymore) and machined 11 mm's of it. There is plent of meat to do this! Normally the chain is almost a meter away from this rim/tire.
The brake of the rg500 doesnt fit so the disc, brakcet, caliper of the newer model gsxf has to be used. Perhaps the floating calipers of the early gsxR can be used? dunno this...
Also the torque arm has to be mounted to the swinger instead of the frame. That because the rg5 is a floating type. The newer not.
Its cost more effort, time and mony but hey....you can take an 160/60 tire because its an 4.5 inch rim. And 5 inch will fit also. Without problems of the chain rubbing the tire.

From an expert.

Arronduke

21st November 2013, 21:00

A copy of a post... looking for info. No point asking here where I talk to myself.

An update.
You know the only reason I update this thread is because I have questions.
I am ditching rims that have already been fitted instead of standard.
Still a 16 front...

Anyway the speedo drive does not fit the GSX600F front wheel.

Can some one PLEASE.. measure their speedo drive.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00028_zps93cdb3ee.jpg (http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00028_zps93cdb3ee.jpg.html)

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00031_zps850c9171.jpg (http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00031_zps850c9171.jpg.html)

62mm out side round housing
15mm axle size...hmm
54mm outside of drive tabs.
27mm wide...27.22mm to be exact.

This does not fit the GSX rim its too big.

I do not know if this is normal.

About to purchase a RG500 speedo drive from UK $$$ or should I be purchasing a gX600F jopby
end of post... yep we sacked them all.

Oh and fuck me... got the big picture working again.

Drew

22nd November 2013, 05:36

Arronduke

24th November 2013, 20:31

I haven't got a vernia here to measure with. I do have heaps of speedo drives though, and I'm near positive I will have what ya need.

I could really use the dimensions of the one you want though, or it's all a bit moot.

They're usually interchangable between make and model, there's only a few different sizes that I can think of.

Drew, you are so cool.
Thanks, may you have a 1000 sons.

The speedo drive I have is a Suzuki one but I don't know what its off and it does not fit.
Brought a RG one off evil bay for like 11pounds.. and the asshole wants 35 pounds to send it to NZ.
Work that out in NZ dollars.

The major is it is in the Netherlands.. the rim and forks and brakes cam from the UK... but not paying that for a speedo drive.

So enter Drew.... you are the man. I hope you can help, that would be great.
Assuming you can sell me a speedo drive for less....

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00036_zpseca7ba55.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00036_zpseca7ba55.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00036_zpseca7ba55.jpg"/></a>

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/DSC00035_zps49e5ace4.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00035_zps49e5ace4.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSC00035_zps49e5ace4.jpg"/></a>

Arronduke

27th November 2013, 20:22

<a href="http://s982.photobucket.com/user/Dukeman2/media/RGcarrier_zpsee97aec8.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/RGcarrier_zpsee97aec8.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo RGcarrier_zpsee97aec8.jpg"/></a>
Machined the GSX600F 98 sprocket carrier today.

Skimmed 11mm of the face.

Made a nice little tool to hold the sprocket carrier and not have it slip in the 3 jaw chuck.

The ali is soft and you are going to mark it if you use the out side of the sprocket carrier to hold it in the lathe.

Need to decide between 530 standard and 520 proposed drive chain.
fact is don't need it for grunt.

Looking cool and being practical is what counts. Even price is negotiable.
So what the fuck is the best option?

Have quote and options engineered from UK... nice but expensive, send these details to NZ supplier and to hard.
So asked for standard 530 quote.

So soon I will have 520 custom build quote verses 530 stand build, one from Uk and other NZ.

Which will be the best and the cheapest?

Drew

28th November 2013, 05:31

I usually go for the 520 chain and sprockets, because I'm a fucken Jew and it's cheaper.

Pm ya shortly about speedo drives.

Arronduke

28th November 2013, 17:53

Drew,

The 520 is not standard and the 530 is...
Cant seem to get the 520 in NZ in the configuration I want.

Thanks for sorting the speedo drive.

husaberg

28th November 2013, 18:12

Arronduke

4th December 2013, 19:59

I wondered when i seen 630 lol

is this it.
http://www.jtsprockets.com/fileadmin/code/images/large/jtr829.jpg
530
http://www.jtsprockets.com/fileadmin/code/images/small/jtr823.jpg
520
GS500 250 bandit and many other stuff.
http://www.jtsprockets.com/catalogue/sprocket/JTR823

Nice work.
Sorry for the 630 shit. My Kat and EZ are both still running a 630. All I can say is it is one big mother chain.

Drew

4th December 2013, 22:05

Nice work.
Sorry for the 630 shit. My Kat and EZ are both still running a 630. All I can say is it is one big mother chain.
All it's doing is sucking up power, even on the old bikes. My 200 horse superbike didn't eat a 520 in two seasons of getting thrashed, your not likely to notice increased wear on a road bike with less than half that poke.

Arronduke

11th December 2013, 21:05

Purchased the new sprockets and chain, from just down the road right?
Ask your comer diary for a set of sprockets for an RG500, but with the following spec.

Front - 16 tooth RG500 - 520.....
Rear - 42 from memory... look back to confirm cause that was 247 beers ago, . But a GSX600F 1998 - 520

Advice I have read say not to go under 16 front. To hard on the sprocket and shaft.... Open here for a great comment... "Sprocket and Shaft".. "To Hard!"
But that sort of talk is not accepted in this here forum!

Good luck finding a set..., I found one place -the RGV site in the UK told me where to go, they have a RG500 forum and its good.
http://http://www.bandcexpress.co.uk/
And this shop know its shit... I have emailed them 6 x and they have replied 6 x with pictures.
impressive.

Cost $394 from memory
with chain....

Here are some pictures I am working from:

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/RGrearwheelsetup_zps91559d1d.jpg
Notice the hard alloy anodizing... need that! we will talk at length about this.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/RGrearwheelsetup3_zps672e0dea.jpg

and finally... I need to get it this straight.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/RGrearwheelsetup2_zps611a4249.jpg

Arronduke

11th December 2013, 21:07

Just to chew the fat this is an old shed picture.
I need to count how many of these bikes I still have.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC06920.jpg

sugilite

12th December 2013, 02:46

Mate, that's way to much clutter, I'll be happy to wheel a few of those bikes away to clear up some work space for you! Thank me later! :innocent:

Drew

12th December 2013, 05:31

I've always been told, that 14 tooth front sprocket is the smallest size due to it wanting to bind.

The bigger it is of course, the more efficient it becomes...to a point. At some point the weight becomes a limiting factor, and whatever gains you get from the reduced friction are overcome by rotational mass, and the energy required to over come it.

I don't actually know if you can fit a front sprocket big enough for that to become a concern on a motorbike though. Cases start getting in the way over 16 teeth on nearly everything I've worked on...which doesn't include RG500 mind.

Speedo drive on it's way today man. I'll overnight that shit so you can try and fit it tomorrow night with too many beers in ya.:laugh:

eelracing

12th December 2013, 22:09

Here are some pictures I am working from:

Notice the hard alloy anodizing... need that! we will talk at length about this.

For god's sake don't do it.There is a definite correlation between shiny tat and virgin tyres.

Arronduke

19th December 2013, 22:32

It is not just the back end that's is causing issues, well the front end is too.

Speedo drive is pissing me off, the RG one is no good, outside diameter is too big and the speedo drive forks are too wide. It does not fit.
Got a GSX600 jobby and spacing and everything is perfect, tighten up the axle and its good.
except at the cable input end in to the speedo drive is not the same as the RG... really...really!

yep the Rg and GSX speedo cable drive, end link up are different to the driver.

So I need a custom built cable, RG one end and GSX600 at the other end.

Options appreciated.
And photos to follow ... (tomorrow)

Arronduke

19th December 2013, 22:36

Drew

20th December 2013, 06:14

Note to Drew, thanks for sending me the speedo drive.
It was the same as mine unfortunately but I would not have known if you had not sent it.

The front wheel I removed was not standard so it is good to know.

I sent it back and you should have it this week.

cheers DudeSorry it didn't fit bro. It measured up right with the drawing you posted, so thought we had a winner.

It arrived back to go in the scrap bin yesterday. Cheers bro.

Arronduke

21st December 2013, 21:26

Drew,

Your a good man, anyone that willingly to help the cause, is immortal . A nice stance.

Merry Christmas.!

Arronduke

21st December 2013, 21:33

All I can say is... when you try and light a E Smoke with a lighter its best not to post.

malcy25

22nd December 2013, 11:08

Arronduke

14th February 2014, 20:57

talk to the team at www.pyramid-parts.com they are in Chch and do lots of cables (Clutch, speedo, tacho etc)

Will do and thanks for the info.

Arronduke

14th February 2014, 21:33

OK after what seems like a life time ago, my new chain and sprockets are here.
Time to fit them and try and line up the sprockets. Sounds easy as....

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr_zpsdf3b5b2d.jpg

Cant argue it looks good, but are the sprockets lining up?
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photo_zpsd9d2a3ef.jpg

looking mint...

But is it?

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photo5iiii_zps4dae8f6c.jpg
Don't think so.. might be beer eyes but that does not look good to me.

While women may have one flap hanging longer than the other they don't seem to walk funny or wear out their undies quickly, but run a chain like this and its going to fuck out fast. Don't like that idea after what this set up cost. If the flap problems starts to be a problem they just move to crouch-less... Cant see a RG with a shaft drive.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photo2ii_zps9a4d06d7.jpg

getting closer but I think 1mm - 2mm needs to be removed from the left hand spacer.
will do this next week.

Oh and to add I hate dealing with electroplating companies there threat you like shit, as soon as you say bike or car parts.
I have a bead blaster and am going to add a home electroplating system to my shed... yea.
no more having to mix 1000 bolts to get the job done, plate as you need it done.

Q: What tastes good on pizza but not on pussy?
A: Crust!

Drew

15th February 2014, 08:16

Sprocket needs to go right to my eye.

Is the wheel perfectly straight?

Arronduke

15th February 2014, 12:39

Which sprocket?

What is the best way to line this thing up?
What about getting the wheel perfectly straight?

Drew

15th February 2014, 12:45

Which sprocket?

What is the best way to line this thing up?
What about getting the wheel perfectly straight?A new chain on there, and eye ball down it. Then spin the wheel and repeat is how I've done it when putting different motors into stuff.

Wheel needs to be straight according to the adjustment marks at least, before you do that though.

You can see surprisingly small measurements by eye, far smaller than the required tolerance for sprocket alignment.

Ya have to remember how much the bike flexes when being ridding, particularly something as old school light weight as an RG500. The chain doesn't get fucked quicker on one that gets raped, compared to one that is ridden by a bitch. So long as it's maintained like.

Arronduke

18th February 2014, 21:28

Right Drew it was done by eye, I agree how good the eye ball is, being using it for many years now. Interest to see how close I was.

Its has to be right.
As Drew said centre the wheel best you can, I did if by measuring the axle bolt to the end of swingarm , end of the bolts (no good). In the end I got a number equal on both sides that mean FA.
Next measure the wheel rim to centre of swingarm... example attached but I got it equal and moved on from there.

40.8 to 44.07
3.27 mm / 2 = 1.6mm from centre.

3.27/2= 1.6+ 40.8 = 42.40mm

left hand spacer = 13.50mm - 1.6 = 11.9
12mm lets be real.

need to remove and make left hand spacer 12mm
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photo2_zps387ccef3.jpg

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photo_zps29086286.jpg
Yes I got heaps of spacers / washers and drilled them out on the lathe, hit them with a grinder to remove the bur's, then pressed them flat with the press to get as close as I can.

next I decided to search the net, rulers others used. Cant fit a ruler so I thought laser, only one I had was for measuring the temp in my piazza oven. Tape the trigger and bingo laser.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/thepicture_zpsd618055c.jpg

Move wheel to the left, add chain... numbers all starting to work.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/chain_zps44ab0b82.jpg
quite pleased. Only two beers, (yea right) ..... could not have done this on a Friday night... All the calculator batteries in the house are usually flat on a Friday night....other wise peace of cake... no pun intended.

But I think I will move both sprockets to the right, add new chain guide and I think w will be looking good.

Arronduke

19th February 2014, 19:56

Still not 100% happy.

Wheel is square and centralised, chain looks good but the sprocket looks to close to the swingarm.
Looking at the chain loading on to the sprocket, the chain is hugging to one side of the sprocket, meaning its not central. Looks like the rear sprocket needs to go one direction and the chain is hitting the side of the sprocket making it look like it needs to go right back to where it came from. Bugger.

Means machining the sprocket carrier more. Every one said 11mm.... I smell a dirty rat..
Before I do root or fuck any thing lets have a close look. When you can smell a rat its best to take a step back.

Right could this be it?

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photoeee_zps577b6f4d.jpg

Is the sprocket carrier located in the rear wheel as should? No idea but it does not look right.
The sprocket bolts are spaced out to take up the 11mm machined off the sprocket carrier, are they hitting the cushioning rubbers? stopping the carrier go all the way in. .
Are these washers stopping the carrier going in to the rear wheel, would make sense.

Have looked at this before when just placing the sprocket carrier on the wheel some time ago. Did not go all the way in then and that's with out those bolts.
So don't like my luck! But there maybe a mm or two here and that perfect.

Chain guard fits nice, its going to look stock but to the not so fucked they will see the mods.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photo_zps720abd1b.jpg

Drew

20th February 2014, 05:32

Arronduke

20th February 2014, 19:31

Take the sprocket carrier out of the wheel. Put a piece of blue tack on the side of the wheel bearing so that a small bit is on the inner race. Chuck the wheel in and do the axle up.

Take it all apart again, and see if the bluetac is squished to nothingness where the spacer from sprocket carrier sits against the wheel bearing inner race. If it is squished out completely, then it's mating up properly at the axle.

The only other thing to check after that, is that the bearing is seated home in the wheel, and the sprocket carrier. If the wheel bearing isn't seated, which will become obvious by the crush tube in the middle of the wheel will have side play, you will need to make new spacers again.

I would be tempted to make my spacers and shit, by taking the carrier spacer out of the carrier and assembling it all without the sprocket carrier there at all. Just so I could see that surfaces were touching.

Drew, just read your post. I pulled the wheel out and the sprocket carrier and I had a spacer against the wheel but nothing pushing the sprocket carrier against the wheel. F up one.
Next removed the front sprocket and the bastard thing can go two ways.... turned it around so the writing was on the outside and its starting to look better.

Next move the rim right where it looks like it should be and everything is starting to line up. Wheel measures 41.5mm both sides of the swingarm, sprocket and chain are running in the middle... all good right! But NO the markings on the swingarm are miles out. Other wise its all good.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photo2wr_zps65f3f07b.jpg
funny how the sprocket carrier now looks right. I will follow up on what sort of spacer I need to keep the sprocket carrier in place and put pressure on the rim.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photo1er_zps5035d009.jpg
trick for old bastards.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photo4_zps0c2d9244.jpg
looking much better. What a pain in the ....

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photo3_zpsb3af7b3b.jpg
Not 100% happy yet, why are the swingarm markings out to make everything line up?

Anyway time for a beer for 10.

Arronduke

20th February 2014, 19:36

Drew

21st February 2014, 05:41

The bearing for the carrier goes in to it from the outside, then the stepped spacer goes into that from the inside. The outside spacer on the carrier side should be of an appropriate outside diameter to cover the inner stepped spacer, and the inner race of the carrier bearing. That is what locates the carrier and stops it being able to move away from the wheel.

Once that is sorted, you can start trying to line up your chain. By the sound of it, you're going to need to do a wheel alignment with a couple bits of string and a bit of fucking around first. Plumb down from the center of your headstock and put a mark on the table. Then plumb down from the center of the standard wheel and mark the table. Measure off an equal distance on either side of the marks and draw a line between them. Put in your new wheel, and plumb up at the front and rear of it. Presto, you know what way the wheel needs to go to be straight, and center.

Arronduke

21st February 2014, 21:25

Rear wheel will wait, had friend, great engineer spend 30min on the rear wheel and he agrees it looking good.
Still there will be more work done here, as Mr Drew say... head stock etc. So let strip the rest off the bike.

so carbs are off and in to bags, and numbered.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/DSC00022_zps0ba006d5.jpg

do I split the carbs or soak / ultra sonic clean the as they are? they look to have screw you should not undo.. but I can and there is a gasket in there...
will post picture later...

I like to pull shit a part! NO PUN MEANT.

Drew

22nd February 2014, 05:50

I wouldn't expect the slide covers need to come off. Bowls and jets would be the go though, since it's been sitting for a while.

Arronduke

23rd April 2014, 19:12

Been broke but busy.
Wife seems to think there are more important things needed than bike parts.
You would have thought after all the training I have done this issue would not arise.

But it does... and it seems more training is required.

Enough ranting on... I am having a beer, dam fine one to I might add.

We all know the problem I seem to have lining up the new rear sprocket and the rim without FA references, to be honest its pissed me right off. Cant pull the engine etc until this slight inconvenience is sorted. I would have thought I would have had it sort reasonably quickly.

The eye is a good machine along with a few brain cells and it should be sorted. But it just pissed me off, small things told me I was off, I knew I was close but close enough?

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photo3_zpsf07d5525.jpg
This is the finished jig, bolts to the front sprocket. Everything square. I'm sure there are tolerances but it dam close. Closer than I could ever do any other way with out some major help.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photo1_zps9ec422f3.jpg
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photo2_zpsb92d74e0.jpg

It worked great. Big effort but worth it.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photo3_zps4e417cb7.jpg

All bolts together nice and tight and square, add a 25/25 ali bar and lets start measuring.

Arronduke

23rd April 2014, 19:32

I had to eradicate cells for this idea, great mate who's a doobie regular had a look this is where he started, and it made sense.
I took it from there.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_0795_zps169d8578.jpg

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_0794_zps97a8815b.jpghttp://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_0796_zps69f5de07.jpg

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_0797_zps81e0fa20.jpg

tighten the thing up.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_0798_zps475f555d.jpg

Arronduke

23rd April 2014, 19:41

Right I am liking this idea, made the wife look at it heaps. Did not seem impressed. F#ck what else could see be thinking about? Wasn't a beer, she had a wine. ;)

:mad: What the Fuck was the response and she let, a man of less character would have given up but not I, I am garageman...! :eek5:

Haaaa.. yea right.

Back to the job, showing off.!

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_0800_zpse1bc584e.jpg
cant tell me this does not look good...

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photo3_zpsf07d5525.jpg
There is always a big bar when someone is doing a project, and you can see mine... long and hard. 25x25 x1m

Time to measure up...

Arronduke

23rd April 2014, 19:51

At this point I had no idea how close I had set this up, hence the reason I made it.
Pissed me off that I could not be as perfect as possible, it looked out from this angle or that. I knew it was close but it was pissing me off.

I cant measure chassis etc. This is all I could think off...

So start measuring...

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photo1_zpsdf1175ce.jpg

Arronduke

23rd April 2014, 20:14

To the imbecile... That's 89.25mm and that thing was a caliper and can measure longer than your nob,
6inches... yes a 6inch caliper.

Digital variety if you must know. Not the scale version old blind people use.

WTF
Is that dude flossing is a wheel?
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_0864_zps05d0ef63.jpg
Naa asshole, that there is measuring being done, man style!

Ok just simple telescopic gauges, every shed man has a set, right?

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_0863_zpsef7621df.jpg

Ocean1

23rd April 2014, 20:21

So while you have that straightedge there you checked the rear wheel alignment?

How far out were the axle marks? 'Cause I've seen them out a fair bit...

Arronduke

23rd April 2014, 20:41

Enough dribble.

first thing I did was square the rim. I measured both sides of the rear sprocket to the ali bar, which equalled 89.00mm
I was about 1/8th to 1/4 off a line out on the swing arm lines on the sides of the swingarm.

44.75mm right gap
39.8mm left hand gap

Rear sprocket parallel swingarm.... 89.00mm

Lets look at the front rim.

Sprocket to the inside of the flang, 69.05mm and the flang is 20mm perfect.
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_0869_zpsbe443cec.jpg
ok we all know a squeeze makes a difference but I know how to measure stuff.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_0865_zps8c8402ec.jpg
a final look before the results.

I have made NO adjustments other than square the rear sprocket to the swingarm, which I would expect is square to the chain.

Arronduke

23rd April 2014, 20:43

So while you have that straightedge there you checked the rear wheel alignment?

How far out were the axle marks? 'Cause I've seen them out a fair bit...

they were out more than I would have expected.
1/2 to 2/3rds is more realistic on review.

Arronduke

23rd April 2014, 20:54

Anyway the numbers ...

44.75mm gap right side rim to swingarm
39.80mm gap left side rim to swingarm

44.75 + 39.80 / 2 = 42.27mm
Difference is 4.95mm, the rim is to far to the right by half the difference of 4.95mm = 2.475mm
So..........

44.75mm - 2.475mm = 42.275mm
and
39.80mm + 2.475mm = 42.275mm

or 42.50mm are the equal gaps, now lets make spacers the perfect size.
facts are

Rim needs to go 2.4mm one side so both sides = 42.50mm
REAR SPROCKET ALIGNMENT WAS PERFECT
Yep, the mighty eye, sprocket alignment was spot on but the rim was off side.
Fact is without squaring the rim nothing was possible.

I think it was perfect.

Bring on the chat, its good to be back.

Pumba

23rd April 2014, 23:31

Arron, cant be arsed looking back in the thread but is the centre of the wheel meant to be in the middle of the swing arm? I know on a some bikes the swing arm is not symmetrical.

Love the strait edge though. Need to make my own.

Drew

24th April 2014, 06:24

Arronduke

26th April 2014, 12:44

I would have used the straight edge (which is fucken brilliant by the way), to get the center measurement to the front wheel first. Then figured out what way the rear wheel needs to go to be perfectly inline with that. Then fuck about with the sprocket.

Puma / Drew....... both are correct.

Need to find this out....

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_0881_zps2a2e1f0c.jpg

This did not end well.
14mm difference between the wheel centres. The front is perfect so the back may need to move to the right 14mm.
Will try this out today........... dam it was all looking sooo good.

Arronduke

30th April 2014, 21:27

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_0916_zps21f796fc.jpg

My new measuring gizmo... starting to get close.
Down to +/- 1mm in axle spacers, amazing the difference this makes to the front rim alignment.

And yes there is a spacer making the gap the same as the rear rail on the rims as the front.
Nothing is perfect but its going to be dammed close.

Arronduke

1st May 2014, 21:37

Found this on a bike build site.... pure gold...

Re- wheel alignment

As some of you know i worked on a straightening jig in an accident repair shop for a while & can tell you the accepable misalignment can be up to 4mm on some models as stock we "straightened" quite a few brand new frames for racers to bring them within 1mm of alignment or less & this is what i always aim for on my own bikes

Although this is the ideal, on a bike made up from a number of different parts that were never supposed to fit together the ideal is sometimes not acheivable due to the many variables involved

As posplar says a small misalignment can be tuned out by ajusting the wheel slightly more on one side than the other, the chain will allow you to do this by around 1mm without adverse effects on chain or sprocket life, although it is always better to avoid this if possible

When checking the wheel alignment do not use the ajusters at all ! leave them completely slack & push the wheel all the way forward within the slots & nip it up, the reason for this is that the marks on the ajusters are notoriously poor & the wheel will not be straight if you use them & the front edge of the ajuster slots is usually a fairly accurate place to start your measurements from while with the rear it is not always the case

summary .... 4mm of misalignment is just about acceptable but personally i wouldnt be happy with that
1mm or less is the ideal but not always acheivable
2mm to 2.5mm is the most misalignment you should be aiming for in my opinion & if that is not acheivable you did something wrong somewhere along the line

Hope it helps tone

Pumba

20th May 2014, 22:53

You gone sober and realized how full of shit you are? Or are you just buried in a shallow grave out back cause the wife caught the credit card statement?

Progress has been slower than any of my bike builds.

Arronduke

30th May 2014, 22:26

My poor dear Pumba...me gone sober.!

My hair would fall out and I would start shaking...... naaa .. ok those things have already happened. I blame (thinking) and (more thinking). have to stop my brain hurts.

But to be honest I have been working on my other bikes, BUT this weekend I will be back on to the RG. Organised for the cranks to be rebuilt just need to remove them.
Swingarm will come out to be have a caliper stay welded on as the new GSX600 caliper is not floating like the original.

What I do need is a new delivery address, to many parts are turning up from USA and wife not happy.
Have GSXR1100 front end on it way for the GSX1100EZ. Its going to be great. BUT the RG must be done first and then the 1230 Kat. So why buy bits for a project miles away you might ask? Sorry cant answer that but beer must be at fault.

Oh and best thing I learned this week was to cancel paper statements for credit cards.... brilliant. Wife NEVER sees a credit card statement. problem solved.

Arronduke

30th May 2014, 22:33

And forgot to add.. all the rear wheel spacers are made. Everything looks great.
Happy with the final result.

pictures you ask, we all like pictures. Funny thing is the less in a picture the more we like it!

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_0887_zpsc00ec4e6.jpg

Arronduke

7th June 2014, 23:26

The bike is now nothing but a pile of bits.
Boxes of steel and electric wiry stuff.

Motor is out and in it new fancy engine thing.

Swing arm is at the welders getting a torque arm mount welded on.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_11191_zps68e5db25.jpg

Arronduke

19th June 2014, 03:42

Torque arm is back and welded on to the swingarm.

Looks cool.
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1337_zps7ee178bd.jpg

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1336_zps575d552e.jpg

Time to pull this motor apart and give it some Loven...

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1292_zps4f3bb254.jpg

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1319_zps619357e3.jpg

Think I have found the oil leak....!

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1327_zpsb796b5b4.jpg
Wonder who is to blame for that f#ck up... that was a new seal!

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1334_zpsd6c1208b.jpg
cranks are out.
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1333_zps9f655fd0.jpg
Got to love this engine, small powerful... with two cranks..

unstuck

19th June 2014, 06:15

Thats a niffty looking engine cradle there fella, homebuilt?:2thumbsup

Arronduke

20th June 2014, 02:44

Here is what I used to separate the crank cases, 8mm nut and bolt.
You will need to file 0.4mm off each side of the nuts to fit in to the recess and the screw the bolt in evenly at both ends and bingo they separate.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1343_zps0b9cec3d.jpg

Got the cranks out, now I need to find someone to rebuild them...anyone know who can do this?
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1351_zpse1f538da.jpg

This here is a great tool, used heaps to hold things when it says in the manual that you need an expensive special tool. Add a impact gun and bingo nothing can beat you.
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1352_zpsfdcb17e0.jpg

That there people is the gear box. Designed to be removed quickly without needing to separate the crankcases. Other words known as a cassette gearbox.
Pretty cool, shame they are a little fragile and tend to go bang. Hence the new stronger gears I have to rebuild this sucker.
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1373_zps9906ee53.jpg

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1387_zps464feca8.jpg
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1388_zpsd2dde6ee.jpg
I still think this is way cool.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1389_zpsc928daca.jpg

Now this is where the fun starts.... I noticed very fine ali in the residue oil .....WTF. Have a look in the last picture and you will see the problem.
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1374_zps7416ac38.jpg
Lets have a closer look....
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1392_zps918bf3c4.jpg
Dam bearing has spun in the blind hole in the back off the crankcase.. going to need this fixed.. help anyone with ideas?
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1393_zps3fefcc20.jpg
with bearing sitting in the offending hole... my guess is it needed to be bushed... cant see it being welded and machine...:eek5:

Drew

20th June 2014, 06:25

The clutch holder is cool. I usually sacrifice a clutch steel and weld a handle to it.

For the case where the bearing has been spinning, I have no idea. Find the most trick looking engineering shop you can, and ask them.

Hobbyhorse

20th June 2014, 07:39

Don't know where in Auckland you live but I use Rex Cotterell at 365 Rosebank Road Avondale for tricky stuff in the engineering line.

HenryDorsetCase

20th June 2014, 09:57

I love this thread.

Liking that bike: not so much the paying for the motor rebuild...

I am interested to see how it gets repaired.

NAR RG500

20th June 2014, 10:05

I'll sell you a new case for a million dollars.

You could get the pocket machined out and a steel sleeve fitted to bring the size down to original O/D. Will be fairly painless for a good engineer.

Also check your shifter drum bearing for sloppiness as you will probably have to get something done about that at the same time, although if it's not real bad some retaining compound normally works fine.

Cheers

Ocean1

20th June 2014, 19:07

Dam bearing has spun in the blind hole in the back off the crankcase.. going to need this fixed.. help anyone with ideas?

Any good machine shop will overbore it and press in a sleeve. Can't help with good shops in Orks though.

Whoever does it will need the rest of the case assembly and shaft, to pick up the precise original location of the shaft centre and counterbore depth.

Arronduke

22nd June 2014, 18:26

I was on my way home after a RG500 track day in Taupo, and boom.

I need to fess up, that there bearing is a new one from my last strip and rebuild. Only bearings and seals were done due to wife shopping habits.
That rebuild was done due to that there dam bearing which collapsed and caused the gearbox to seize which in turn made the bike stop quickly, which in turn freaked me out, which in turn had me standing on the side of the road some where near the middle of the major highway from Taupo to Te Awamutu. It was such a major highway that there was about 1 car every half an hour and no mobile coverage. Great.

So that bearing fits like a roger is a 25yr old, used but not flogged. Not interference fit..... like a __old :gob: Loctite might work with some new stuff and proper prep. Its not to far gone like a 45 yr old that can catch a sock sideway. There is no slop (excuses the pun) its just has spun enough to fuck the interference tolerance. Mate say dot punch, Loctite and shut up!

Anyway pulled the motor to bits and replaced all bearings and used Loctite on that dam bearing last time which obviously did not hold. Obviouly not enough care and the Loctite was like 20yrs old. Thanks to my last job.

few more beers and more parts created.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1399_zpsca5521fe.jpg
Love that stand... the bottom of the motor.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1402_zpse5dc5acb.jpg
Water pump.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1404_zpsce74983b.jpg
This here gear transfers all the power from the twin cranks are applied it to the output gear shaft.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1405_zps5b2aebc1.jpg

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1410_zps3d0725e3.jpg
Rock the long bolts back and forward, do not use a hammer or screw driver to remove this, other wise it will end in tears...

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1411_zpsb3316d25.jpg
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1412_zps1a507ef7.jpg
Job done.

Right we need to move the shaft and push the bearing out. It is not a tight fit but it helps 150% if you heat it up to remove the bearing and remove the shaft... heat it up to hot to touch seems to work well.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1414_zps1e4af0d8.jpg

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1417_zps66cf7a66.jpg
The shaft is bored out with a solid end inside the shaft, so use a long bolt to tap the shaft, DO not bash the end of the shaft or there will be more tears....

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1418_zps5772c3c0.jpg

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1419_zpsfc71b100.jpg
Bearing removed and now the shaft can be removed. The aim is to use the hammer just in a threating way not to bash.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1423_zps0b3c08f0.jpg
everything ready to be removed.

Arronduke

3rd July 2014, 22:23

I want to re anodize my swing arm as powder coating is not right, it is to thick...

Can it be done ? everyone says NO. result will be shit.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_1337_zps7ee178bd.jpg

powder coating is not right to thick so painting might be an option...

And no to the word polish, gay people come to mind.

So what say you all?
"Dude I have a new swingarm you can have it!" .... that's a good answer!

Run out of funds again for the moment, spent to much on the GSX1100EZ :weep: and that's two projects away.
Kat 1327 is next :eek:...........! then the EZ. Hell need to finish the RG. But the EZ is going to be cool... upside down forks, 6 pots, bandit swingarm etc... yep in the shed.:whocares:

back to the RG...Got most parts just need to pay for the labour to rebuild the cranks and then bore 4 cylinders. I have the parts ready to go to rebuild.
Oh did I mention the wife wants to know where all the money is gone? and if I spend any more than $15 I have to ask.

What is to be come of me with these new rules.? :angry2:

Arronduke

3rd July 2014, 22:28

OH and NO I have not sorted the bearing thing.!

I'm sure it can be done for less than $15... just might be a few instalments!

Ocean1

3rd July 2014, 22:32

You can anodise it, it won't hide any nicks or scratches though, better to get it soda blasted first.

Makes the surface a bit harder too, little more abuse resistant. Not sure who you'd get to look at it up there though.

SVboy

4th July 2014, 09:43

OH and NO I have not sorted the bearing thing.!

I'm sure it can be done for less than $15... just might be a few instalments!

What has become of the mighty ARRONDUKE? The once proud garage emperor reduced to living off a few crumbs from the wife. How things have changed!

Askor

4th July 2014, 14:50

What has become of the mighty ARRONDUKE? The once proud garage emperor reduced to living off a few crumbs from the wife. How things have changed!

Maybe she read this thread :lol:

Arronduke

15th October 2014, 21:26

OK its been like a week since my last post.
You might not think I have been busy in this time, and your right. But what have you done?

Relax

Father it has been 3 months since my last confession. I have been a sinner!
"Tell me son what have you done"

>>"lied father...we are broke and my wife is reusing sanitary pads, my kids think food comes from USA in boxes delivered to our letter box"
Sound reasonable.

"Father... I am thankful that not all human are useless, except me obviously.. being perfect"

"One of your followers fixed my crank case bearing and he was like a machining god, reality TV is coming his way."

Reality couples machining 2014... has a ring to it.

With out further delay I show off my repaired crankcase.
No more spun bearing.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photo3_zps5a6d8ca0.jpg

Bored, sleeved and only 0.1mm taken off the bottom bearing land and 0.1mm off the bearing sleeve base.
Dude had to make a custom boring bar cause of chatter and whole job was $300.
Oh and the dude is a classic bike nut.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photo2_zpsb94de63d.jpg

Repair is amazing.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/photo1_zpsef9842a4.jpg

Mean while swingarm is off for coating as are all the platting bit.
Beer is ready the rebuild will start soon!

Arronduke

15th October 2014, 21:35

What can I say.... I'm famous.!

http://www.rgv250.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/55636-rg500rg400-front-rear-wheel-alignment/

Were is the wife when she is needed... "Put the eggs down bitch"... "I need a hand".:shit:

Arronduke

5th December 2014, 20:37

Obviously not a speed thread... but things are happening.
Dam slow yes.. I'm still waiting for my rims and swingarm to be returned after powder coating.
Mate doing a favour, my bet is the prick has sold them.

Anyway next week I'm told like last week.

There is a little good news, and no shit like everything these bits only took 2 months to turn up.
What is it with this shit, yes it is in stock or no worries give me a week. what f#cking week?

BUT I say with some excitement all my suspension bits are here, finally.

Odd swingarm bushes..
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_2458_zps5c35ff3d.jpg
may have seen better days, only good for throwing at the wife now, eggs what is so hard about eggs?

Every bearing and seal will be replaced, getting a woody just handling these bits.
Any day now rims will be here, add tyres and I will have a rolling frame. Now that is worth looking at.
I can build the rolling frame and put the children to work to pay for the crank rebuild.

OHH have I added... you maybe asking why is this taking so long? sure as hell I have been. Horse.. I hate them.
Those in the know, know I need to say no more! Get a horse, get a divorce! sooo true.

Now back to RG porn...
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_2459_zps1b58a0e1.jpg

:cool:

mossy1200

5th December 2014, 21:59

Now back to RG porn...

:cool:

Santa visiting you also.

I ordered myself some new tools for work!!! Now have xmas wrap on them and have been turned into my xmas present. I think that's a sign shes sick of bike parts being ordered before Christmas and a possible lack of funds. So I did the only thing a man can do in my position. I ordered a billet ally brake reservoir bottle and used her credit card to pay for it.

Arronduke

7th December 2014, 17:40

mossy1200

8th December 2014, 17:04

Mossy, I am hoping the santa is going to be a good friend.
Any time now the rims and swingarm will be with me were they belong.. then add tyres (from santa) and I can start to rebuild.

I still need to get some plating done which thinking about it needs to be sorted ASAP.

Nice work.
I need stop the spend and organise the wifes presents.
I think its going to be small a shiny.

With the finish line in sight its frustrating.

Arronduke

10th December 2014, 21:25

I am thinking.. can I re use these?

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_2522_zps4d5a74ed.jpg
A wash with some petrol and add a little grease, great for another 20k.

Nope, in the bin, new swingarm bearings sorted.

If only I had a swingarm ready to go!

Arronduke

10th December 2014, 21:31

Santa... I love you.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_2517_zps0ad7a7bb.jpg

Rims powder coated with a urethane powder coat, much better lasting than standard powder.
Like normal I should have not been lazy and taped everything off... now I have to sand all the powder off where the discs go.

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_2526_zps559240dd.jpg

What no swingarm pictures!

will follow.

Arronduke

10th December 2014, 21:44

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae304/Dukeman2/IMG_2524_zps15a06535.jpg

All the screwy bits and brackets are off getting plated, olive green...like standard. I could sell the wifes boobs cheaper than a small container of parts to be plates olive green at progressive platers in New Lyn.

Gold or silver cheap as chips but black or olive green is not done by many places.

$180 for an ice cream container of parts... shit that just plain expensive. The owner was great and by all accounts the job will be mint. But gold or silver at a job shop will cost me $20.

Rims and swingarm cost $100 to be powder coated though a mate so that's mega cheap and appreciated.

New wheel bearings to source tomorrow and its nearly time to assemble... cant wait.
(Oh and powder coating cost $300 ... add $200 from draw and new tyres soon to be fitted) :msn-wink: