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Mom
24th April 2013, 19:10
Amazing really, I credit my new job for my self restraint in the swearing department, but it was a near thing indeed.

Glass of wine poured, sitting, chilling and the door bell rings. Not just once mind, but several times. There are only a few people that do that so I went downstairs expecting a lovely surprise visit from a friend, to be met with an earnest young man wearing a lanyard ID and holding a clipboard :pinch:

Never a good place to start in my experience, but I heard his hello spiel and then asked him what he was selling. Nothing apparently. Let him show me his ID ( I cant read it as I have left me specs upstairs) I let him know that I have a glass of wine waiting and asked again what he was selling. Still nothing.

Sucker that I am I then let him continue with a little bit more innocent talk ( leading into a sales pitch or I am a pickled Jellied EEL), I interrupted him to say that I was tired and really was not interested in listening to much more, I asked again what he was selling. "Nothing" he replied, "but I am offering a free review of your insurances".

Here is where I actually impressed myself and told him to "Buzz Off!"

I must be getting old. WTF are these youngsters told about cold calling?

FFS! Watch out folks, they are out to review your insurances now.

bogan
24th April 2013, 19:24
What you want to do, is ask if he wants a drink. Then give him one with a pill sitting in the bottom...

Him or his mates probably won't come back :D

idb
24th April 2013, 19:25
I hope he comes to my door.
I'm going to ask him if he's met Jesus.

Edbear
24th April 2013, 19:26
Had the sales training, never agreed with it and that is why I quit the insurance industry. You can confuse them by saying, "Are you doing a voluntary work? How are you being paid?" They are inevitably on commission, so rely on sales.

I was initially a "paid adviser" and told I was "independent", but I didn't sell enough as I genuinely reviewed the client's insurances and often advised them to stay where they were unless I could actually do better for them.

It became clear in a short time that I needed to use "key words" to "encourage" the client to take out life and health insurance. I didn't like that so gave it up.

Rhys
24th April 2013, 19:35
Our door is never locked so friend/family just come in, so if some one knocks on the door we sent the rotty to answer it, makes his day

oldrider
24th April 2013, 19:40
I hope he comes to my door.
I'm going to ask him if he's met Jesus.

He came to my house ... so I told him where you live! :killingme

FJRider
24th April 2013, 19:49
You forget to tell us the important bits ... like what wine were you drinking .. ??

It can't be that good if you didn't swear ...

Katman
24th April 2013, 20:25
It became clear in a short time that I needed to use "key words" to "encourage" the client to take out life and health insurance. I didn't like that so gave it up.

Perhaps you just eventually got sick of being constantly told to fuck off.

Why does it not surprise me that you were a door to door salesman?

:facepalm:

Erelyes
24th April 2013, 20:35
Our door is never locked so friend/family just come in, so if some one knocks on the door we sent the rotty to answer it, makes his day

Must be fucktons of fun when it's the local kids fundraising for their hockey trip

mashman
24th April 2013, 21:01
Obviously not enough wine consumed then :bleh:

tigertim20
24th April 2013, 21:06
I usually hate the cunts that knock on your door to sell you shit too, untill I had a family member doing a job that required some cold calling.

When you hear the abuse the poor cunts get from trying to earn a living, your mind changes a little when its someone you care getting abused.

Now when I get them come to the door I just tell them clearly, Sorry, Im not interested, Have a nice day, and shut the door.

It used to be "FUCK OFF CUNT" screamed from the couch

Edbear
24th April 2013, 21:23
Perhaps you just eventually got sick of being constantly told to fuck off.

Why does it not surprise me that you were a door to door salesman?

:facepalm:

Wrong again on both counts of course. The facts are exactly the opposite, but hey! At least you are consistent and predictable.

Marmoot
24th April 2013, 21:32
I tend to appreciate those door-knocking trying to sell something over those sitting on unemployment benefits for more than a year.

blue rider
24th April 2013, 21:38
Obviously not enough wine consumed then :bleh:

yes....I thought the same.

Please Mum, don't go to proper and prim on us.....pretty pretty please?

Mom
24th April 2013, 21:40
Had the sales training, never agreed with it and that is why I quit the insurance industry. .

I actually felt quite sorry for young Mathias *sp he was inoffensive and very nicely presented. He was however exceeding my ability to be nice to cold callers. I have done sales training too, I use it everyday :sunny:


You forget to tell us the important bits ... like what wine were you drinking .. ??

It can't be that good if you didn't swear ...

It was a bog standard, though rather acceptable sav blanc...

I am making an effort to curb my tongue :yes:


Why does it not surprise me that you were a door to door salesman?:facepalm:

I take particular offense to those that attempt to bombard me with their doctrine. You may have noticed it in the past :love:

Telemarketers for SKY TV, or any other company that invades my home time, may suck ....Blah........Blah........ (fill the gaps the worst you can)

As far as the peddlers, of religon go, we are never bothered by them now.

I have told one caller that we are heathens and we have never seen them again. We have also had a mormon youngster call who I told we were not at all interested in his crap.

The best advice I can give anyone bothered by people percieved to have an agenda or any kind is to ignore them.

Edbear
24th April 2013, 21:53
I tend to appreciate those door-knocking trying to sell something over those sitting on unemployment benefits for more than a year.

If they are honest and up front I give them time to tell me what they are there for. We are suckers for sellers of chocolate to sponsor schools...


I actually felt quite sorry for young Mathias *sp he was inoffensive and very nicely presented. He was however exceeding my ability to be nice to cold callers. I have done sales training too, I use it everyday :sunny:



It was a bog standard, though rather acceptable sav blanc...

I am making an effort to curb my tongue :yes:



I take particular offense to those that attempt to bombard me with their doctrine. You may have noticed it in the past :love:

Telemarketers for SKY TV, or any other company that invades my home time, may suck ....Blah........Blah........ (fill the gaps the worst you can)

As far as the peddlers, of religon go, we are never bothered by them now.

I have told one caller that we are heathens and we have never seen them again. We have also had a mormon youngster call who I told we were not at all interested in his crap.

The best advice I can give anyone bothered by people percieved to have an agenda or any kind is to ignore them.

I love Mormons, trouble is they find out where the JW's live and avoid them. Pity really...

PrincessBandit
24th April 2013, 22:00
I try to be polite to those who come to my door but it can be difficult at times. I imagine that they're possibly desperate for work and this is the best they can find - not a cheery thought!

As for religious door knockers, why they're a mission field come to my very own doorstep! I can be a missionary without even having to leave my own home. They seldom come back to us. In fact I can hardly remember the last time we had any of those. Strange that...

\m/
24th April 2013, 22:33
"not interested" for salesmen, "FUCK OFF" for the bible bashers.

Brian d marge
25th April 2013, 00:09
Haha thats a point train the dog to answer the door ,,,and the 6 o'clock telephone

One assume its a mans dog...:-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Stephen

cc rider
25th April 2013, 02:43
I am a pickled Jellied EELHmmm... I think it's time to put the preserving jars down mom :gob:


I hope he comes to my door.
I'm going to ask him if he's met Jesus.
He came to my house ... so I told him where you live! :killingmeWhen you answer the door idb, I bet the salesman's first words will be "Jesus Christ!" :innocent:

HenryDorsetCase
25th April 2013, 09:29
What you want to do, is ask if he wants a drink. Then give him one with a pill sitting in the bottom...

Him or his mates probably won't come back :D

Yeah roofie him and then go all cougar. That'll teach him a thing or two. Course you might never get rid of him

Mom
25th April 2013, 09:46
Yeah roofie him and then go all cougar. That'll teach him a thing or two. Course you might never get rid of him

Perish the thought :laugh:

Far too young for this old gal.

Madness
25th April 2013, 10:34
I love Mormons, trouble is they find out where the JW's live and avoid them. Pity really...

There's a Joho map? Please share!

Edbear
25th April 2013, 10:59
There's a Joho map? Please share!

Nah, they just note it down when they find one.

bluninja
25th April 2013, 12:45
Good on you for your self control Mom.

Wait till they try the UK tactics of loitering around supermarkets and being all helpful, the striking up a conversation, before introducing insurance into the convo and arranging an appointment as they help you load your shopping. Worst bit was that Sainsbury's (a big supermarket chain) was also a haunt for homosexual men to meet other likeminded individuals.

I am normally polite and assertive to any callers....though they are usually the other side of the gate, having run out when the dogs run to welcome them :laugh:

Smifffy
25th April 2013, 13:02
We seem to be mostly getting it over the phone these days. "I'm not selling anything, we are just doing a survey..."

I now simply say "I don't have time for that right now good bye" click.

bluninja
25th April 2013, 13:09
Oops I forgot, Nathan from ASB called me at work yesterday. He asked if I was busy, I replied VERY!. Undeterred he asked me if I'd received the letter offering a pre approved loan, and if wanted to take out a further loan advance. Through my mind flashed images of new motorbikes, lucky he couldn't see my avarice for shiny 2 wheeled things. Instead I said "Actually I'm looking to lower my debts and pay my loan off, so no thank you" :eek:

So shitty day at work, felling unwell, tempted, and still saying no in a polite way...that won't happen again.

Road kill
25th April 2013, 13:29
We live 15km outside of town so don't get to meet most of them apart from a couple of religion sellers.
Our dogs tend to go absolutely nuts when they know it's not friends,they tell by my vibes I'd imagine.
I used to try keeping them talking about anything but what they wanted to.
Introduce them to all the dogs complete with full story of their naming and how well they learn an work an what they eat an where they sleep,an who's related to who an how an why,,,an then tell them I'm not interested,,go away please.

One girl got bit by our male dog Scooter after she'd stepped over the dog fence with the sign saying "keep out" a couple of years ago.
She realised her mistake an when she turned around to go back over he bit her on the foot.:rolleyes:fuck !
That was a worry for a few days,nothing came of it though and we now have a slightly better fence and extra signs but they haven't been back since so it was all good in the end.:laugh:

Swoop
25th April 2013, 16:18
Watch out folks, they are out to review your insurances now.
Sadly, there is a need for this.

Your household insurance is being affected by Christchurch and their dodgy land. Your renewal will be changing from a simple "size of house in square metres" to "replacement cost".

There are a couple of nasty hooks in there that people are not aware of...

Firstly, most people do not know how much it will cost to replace their house.

Secondly, they will not mention the fact that people will not be adding on for the cost of the plans to be drawn up for a new house, OR the council fees for building permission and consents.

Also, you have to build in the cost of demolition of your existing house and transport/dumping of the pile of rubble.

Beware when the insurance renewal comes around!

bluninja
25th April 2013, 16:36
Sadly, there is a need for this.

Your household insurance is being affected by Christchurch and their dodgy land. Your renewal will be changing from a simple "size of house in square metres" to "replacement cost".

There are a couple of nasty hooks in there that people are not aware of...

Firstly, most people do not know how much it will cost to replace their house.

Secondly, they will not mention the fact that people will not be adding on for the cost of the plans to be drawn up for a new house, OR the council fees for building permission and consents.

Also, you have to build in the cost of demolition of your existing house and transport/dumping of the pile of rubble.

Beware when the insurance renewal comes around!

Many do....ask any reputable house building firm and they'll give you an outline price for the build plus all consents for a clear site, or with existing dwelling.

Swoop
25th April 2013, 16:45
ask any reputable house building firm and they'll give you an outline price for the build plus all consents for a clear site, or with existing dwelling.

They will be busy at renewal time!

bluninja
25th April 2013, 17:44
They will be busy at renewal time!
Well if they are you can always look here (http://homebuilding.cordell.co.nz/index.php?c=introduction&profile=50&restart=1)

far queue
25th April 2013, 18:38
Well if they are you can always look here (http://homebuilding.cordell.co.nz/index.php?c=introduction&profile=50&restart=1)The price that site provided came in pretty damn close to the one the insurance co came up with to replace what I have now.

idb
25th April 2013, 18:52
I read somewhere that NZ is a prime target for scams because we're so damn polite.
Now, in saying that, I have a prime Nigerian investment that I might be willing to sell at the right price.
PM me if you're interested.

HenryDorsetCase
25th April 2013, 19:20
Many do....ask any reputable house building firm and they'll give you an outline price for the build plus all consents for a clear site, or with existing dwelling.
and THAT is the figure you need to insure for..... assuming you can purchase a cover.

HenryDorsetCase
25th April 2013, 19:21
They will be busy at renewal time!

or a valuer.

Here is some free legal advice for y'all sons of bitches.

Insurance lor is a bastard son of contract lor. Many of the same principles apply. Price, parties, performance, yadda yadda.

What you are saying to your insurer every year is: "Here is a list of risks which I face, I should like to purchase an insurance policy which will indemnify me from that risk" Insurance co says "Certainly sir, here are our terms: Your premium is $X, and your deductible (excess) is $Y". They are betting you will give them money for nothing, and you are betting that shit will go down, in which case you say "same again, thanks".

But in all cases it is up to the INSURED TO ESTABLISH THE LOSS. It is on the insured to QUANITIFY THE INDEMNITY REQUIRED. Easy to buy fifty g's worth of cover, almost pointless if you have five HUNDRED g's of loss. A lot of insurance co's after the christchurch EQ's found themselves on the losing end of those bets in a fairly big way: Think of AMI, or that one that went tits up.

The big issue in chch is that insured parties are relying on the insurance companies, and their loss adjusters, to quantify the loss. Then, quelle surprise!, their estimates of loss do not match. Cue lots of angst, lawyers involved and all that shit.

So, as an insured party, what can you do? Like the man said, you are responsible for identifying and quantifying what you potentially have to lose, and then seeking indemnity for that possible loss.

You're welcome.

oldrider
26th April 2013, 00:01
I read somewhere that NZ is a prime target for scams because we're so damn polite.
Now, in saying that, I have a prime Nigerian investment that I might be willing to sell at the right price.
PM me if you're interested.

Bwana, your PM post box seems to be full. ... :wait:

Smifffy
26th April 2013, 08:25
Bwana, your PM post box seems to be full. ... :wait:

All those keen investors....

SPman
26th April 2013, 12:42
They're trying it on over here as well.....from the missus

I've just been hit on telephonically by a Bank insurance person who didn't sound old enough to shave, calling me Marion and trying to sell me funeral insurance.

This isn't the first time ... I must fall within their demograph of "customers who are morbidly afraid of dropping dead and leaving debt behind them" or something ...

he said that now's the time to think of my loved ones...

I told him that I'd thought about them all my life and if the buggers are too stingy to bury me when I pop off then they can just prop me in a corner and carry on .... although I do think the smell would probably get a bit too much after a while.

He went very quiet.

The last one I told I'd been a gambler all my life but that I wasn't interested in betting on even a sure thing if i had to be dead to collect.

He went quiet too.

Honestly, no resilience these pre-pubescent 12 year olds these days ... when I was 12 I would have followed up on the smell comment with a sales pitch for deodorant .....

no contest, the current crop of 12 year olds .... *sigh*

idb
1st May 2013, 18:12
Bwana, your PM post box seems to be full. ... :wait:

No problem.
Just post your bank account details and passwords here and I'll get to work making you rich.