F5 Dave's F5 challenge

[F5 Dave]

ok racers, here's the thing; We all love racing & a good way to get some more is to have a 2nd bike.

Long ago I'd decided on a 50 as that is what my mates were racing, but it has progressed into pretty much the best racing I've had.

I like the fact that you have to look at corners a bit differently. it may help your riding if you can't just twist the throttle a bit more somewhere to make up the difference.

50s are pretty cheap & don't chew through tyres, in fact can run on two fronts if needs be.

There are still a bunch around. RG50s propping up garages somewhere or an imported TZR or Aprilia RS50, or even Derbi would do the trick. A quick ebay for a AM6 or GPR/Senda engine if you have a spare frame.

Hmm, ok there's not much today, but here's a Derbi. Dave D's one is the equal of my bike in power.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/gilera-smt-50-gpr-50-derbi-senda-engine-/181129557394?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2a2c29b592


Lets get a few more bikes amongst it. I need a hurry up come next GP. There is talk of a few bikes being made, so lets join them & get these finished & ridden with some passion.

[seymour14]

:scooter::scooter::scooter::scooter::scooter:

[kel]

I've been playing with the idea of throwing a supertrick aftermarket 50 cylinder on to one of the spare KE bottom ends. Something like this http://www.rrd-preparation.com/en/Kit-50cc-cylinder-piston-cylinder-head-for-MINARELLI-AM6/1582-product-1582.html would be good for 20 odd horse power.
Its the chassis thats the problem.

[quallman1234]

I'm keen. Keeping an eye out on a RG50. Love those things!

RS125 left the garage yesterday, for another home!

[F5 Dave]

I've been playing with the idea of throwing a supertrick aftermarket 50 cylinder on to one of the spare KE bottom ends. Something like this http://www.rrd-preparation.com/en/Kit-50cc-cylinder-piston-cylinder-head-for-MINARELLI-AM6/1582-product-1582.html would be good for 20 odd horse power.
Its the chassis thats the problem.

whiles you're about it may as well go for one of the 110cc kits:bleh:

[kel]

whiles you're about it may as well go for one of the 110cc kits:bleh:

I don't get it. Thought we were talking 50's?

[F5 Dave]

Sorry I thought we were talking cheating:laugh:.

[Bert]

:scooter::scooter::scooter::scooter::scooter:

And me and me :niceone: or have you changed my last name...:rolleyes:

[seymour14]

And me and me :niceone: or have you changed my last name...:rolleyes:

Sorry Bert, forgot you were getting a four stroke hundy.....:rolleyes:

[Bert]

Sorry Bert, forgot you were getting a four stroke hundy.....:rolleyes:

What are you on about.... RG50 all the way (maybe find a use for that old tz125 frame)..:msn-wink:

[kel]

Sorry I thought we were talking cheating:laugh:.

I still dont get it. Grafting an after market AM6 cylinder on to a 1970's rotary valve bottom end is far from cheating, in fact I'd say its as bucket as it gets. Again I'll state it, the AM6 was a road going motor sold in the millions therefore ALL after market parts are legal.
ps not interested in the spirit of bucket racing arguement, its for dinosaurs that built their bike decades ago. BRING ON THE REAL 50cc RACERS

[Henk]

I think it's the eligibilty of the aftermarket "race replica" hot up kit you sent a link to that they are referring to Kel.

[cotswold]

Here's a real 50cc racer and it's home made and it's 20hp and it will do over 100 miles an hour.:bleh:

http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12576&sid=f52dac84bb6514d282f56ea4227bb482


Here's a quote from the blog

Next time i'll show another project what is still going on,building a replica of the 1964 50cc works Suzuki,the bike kiwi Hugh Anderson world champion with.
Because there are no parts from such a bike for sale i had to make every part myself including the engine.........wait and see..........
René

[F5 Dave]

put the same engine in, ohh say a std AR50 & it would do maybe 92mph. Is that what you're getting at:shifty:


anyhoo:Offtopic:


Lets build some real buckets & actually race them rather than prove what we can find on the internet. Heck if we're not careful Husi will pollute this with more irrelevant trivia. No really, please don't.


Lets keep to the real world & do some bucket racing in NZ.

[seymour14]

put the same engine in, ohh say a std AR50 & it would do maybe 92mph. Is that what you're getting at:shifty:


anyhoo:Offtopic:


Lets build some real buckets & actually race them rather than prove what we can find on the internet. Heck if we're not careful Husi will pollute this with more irrelevant trivia. No really, please don't.


Lets keep to the real world & do some bucket racing in NZ.

:scooter::scooter::scooter::scooter::scooter:

All good things come in two's (including my stuttering).

[jasonu]

anyhoo:Offtopic:


Lets build some real buckets & actually race them rather than prove what we can find on the internet.


Or mooch of other builders instead of actually building your own rideable bike.

[crazy man]

Here's a real 50cc racer and it's home made and it's 20hp and it will do over 100 miles an hour.:bleh:

http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12576&sid=f52dac84bb6514d282f56ea4227bb482


Here's a quote from the blog

Next time i'll show another project what is still going on,building a replica of the 1964 50cc works Suzuki,the bike kiwi Hugh Anderson world champion with.
Because there are no parts from such a bike for sale i had to make every part myself including the engine.........wait and see..........
Renégood wright up! somthing l would like to do one day. prombly more like 14 hp max but still cool

[husaberg]

Didn't Drew or White trash by a NSR50 or CRM50 engine by mistake?

Well i brought this its a minter LOL worth all the 100 cents i payed for it
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/257074787.jpg

[crazy man]

Didn't Drew or White trash by a NSR50 or CRM50 engine by mistake?

Well i brought this its a minter LOL worth all the 100 cents i payed for it
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/257074787.jpgthink choppa did

[cotswold]

Lets build some real buckets & actually race them rather than prove what we can find on the internet.


Dave, the web is how people like me with little mechanical aptitude can find out how to do things correctly without all the costly mistakes. The 125 I am building would not have happened without Tee Zees pages or the input from quite a few others on this forum ( you included )

Back to F5's, the reason they are less popular from where I see it is there is no FXR equivalent to make the class accessible.

Saying all that I do have a w/c honda mtx 50 trail bike ( nsr50 motor I think ) sat in the shed waiting for me to finish the 125.

[cotswold]

Looks like it spent a large portion of its life in the surf

[husaberg]

put the same engine in, ohh say a std AR50 & it would do maybe 92mph. Is that what you're getting at:shifty:


anyhoo:Offtopic:


Lets build some real buckets & actually race them rather than prove what we can find on the internet. Heck if we're not careful Husi will pollute this with more irrelevant trivia. No really, please don't.


Lets keep to the real world & do some bucket racing in NZ.

you still on it?
http://www.artdw.co.uk/Artschool1/store/catalog/view/theme/default/image/davesrag.png

[crazy man]

Lets build some real buckets & actually race them rather than prove what we can find on the internet.


Dave, the web is how people like me with little mechanical aptitude can find out how to do things correctly without all the costly mistakes. The 125 I am building would not have happened without Tee Zees pages or the input from quite a few others on this forum ( you included )

Back to F5's, the reason they are less popular from where I see it is there is no FXR equivalent to make the class accessible.

Saying all that I do have a w/c honda mtx 50 trail bike ( nsr50 motor I think ) sat in the shed waiting for me to finish the 125.bro have a fxr125 so making that a 100 . challage is to bet 2 smokers on a four . hope lm not to far gone to do it lol

[cotswold]

bro have a fxr125 so making that a 100 . challage is to bet 2 smokers on a four . hope lm not to far gone to do it lol

If you could come up with an affordable kit I would think it would be a winner :niceone:

[kel]

I think it's the eligibilty of the aftermarket "race replica" hot up kit you sent a link to that they are referring to Kel.

OK I'll bite. Bidalot makes a full blown race cylinder (Bidalot race factory) which sells for silly money. The supplied link was their budget version "replica" cylinder. Truth is I'd use the silly money full blown version and tell you all to stick it in your pipe and smoke it but hey Im a tight arse and can't afford that lovely piece of work.

[F5 Dave]

And Husi surprises by turning up a real life engine. Now lets see it as a racable bike at BOB & i'll shout your entry.


Cots: well the RG50 was the FXR of the time, just it was a while back.

[husaberg]

And Husi surprises by turning up a real life engine. Now lets see it as a racable bike at BOB & i'll shout your entry.
I are not sure why it surprises you?
i posted it on the ESE site it was offered up as it might be useful to some one doing a LC MB100.
Thanks for the offer of the free entry though. i will take you up on that....one day :laugh:

The F5's never caught on in the south Island which is a shame.
I am are sure the NSR50 is a poor second best to a RG50.
The Derbi's, Minerellis, Aprilias are not exactly common.
I should have enough bits to slap together a F5.
The beauty of the 50's is they have so many parts available at cheap prices beceaue they are a current race MX class.

[Grumph]

I are not sure why it surprises you?
i posted it on the ESE site it was offered up as it might be useful to some one doing a LC MB100.
Thanks for the offer of the free entry though. i will take you up on that....one day :laugh:

The F5's never caught on in the south Island which is a shame.
I am are sure the NSR50 is a poor second best to a RG50.
The Derbi's, Minerellis, Aprilias are not exactly common.
I should have enough bits to slap together a F5.
The beauty of the 50's is they have so many parts available at cheap prices beceaue they are a current race MX class.

Good one Dave - nearly fell off the chair laughing...

50's were big down here - we used to have the "real" 50cc GP but on big tracks.....the old short Puna suited 50's but you'd need to take a lunch on board with you now.

[husaberg]

Good one Dave - nearly fell off the chair laughing...

50's were big down here - we used to have the "real" 50cc GP but on big tracks.....the old short Puna suited 50's but you'd need to take a lunch on board with you now.

Shit Noah, when was that? Was that when you were still at the ship yard.:rolleyes:

I do have a pic of the 84ish 50 NZ gp winner (Sales i think.) But Dave didn't want his thread polluted with pictures I think a chick may have been runner up?

[Pumba]

Someone get in quick before this guys fucks a good bike http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=587209523

[F5 Dave]

Last time they ran the open 50cc GP in Chch was 08 & there were 15 entries.

1st [cough] me
2nd James Hoogie
3rd Cam (RIP)

[F5 Dave]

Time to thread dredge


Well it looks like we'll have a few bikes on the grid this GP. Thanks for taking the challenge. Now just don't beat me you bstds:niceone:

[mr bucketracer]

bro have a fxr125 so making that a 100 . challage is to bet 2 smokers on a four . hope lm not to far gone to do it lolso you built a 50 instead you drop kick:mad:

[F5 Dave]

whoa, battle those inner voices

[kel]

whoa, battle those inner voices

Clozaril. Wont help with the emotional lability though :crybaby: :laugh: :crybaby: