View Full Version : Suzuki Bandit 1200 shock adjustment tool, where can I get one?
Vinz0r
2nd May 2013, 09:05
I don't have the factory toolkit so was just wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction for obtaining the tool for adjusting rear preload on a 99 Bandit 1200. It looks like a C on the end of an l with a little hook on the C part.
Thanks.
Banditbandit
2nd May 2013, 10:19
Suzuki shop perhaps ??
Or is that too obvious and you've already tried that ...
Vinz0r
2nd May 2013, 11:18
Had a look through the parts list on their website without any luck. Although I probably shouldn't assume that all of their parts and tools are on the website..
Might give them a call.
Vinz0r
2nd May 2013, 11:43
Called up but they don't sell them and can't tell me the size needed either as their database just has the manufacturer part number :(
If you're in Akl you can borrow mine.
Vinz0r
2nd May 2013, 15:50
Thanks for the offer but I'm in Hamilton :(
F5 Dave
2nd May 2013, 16:09
Good grief, a decent bike shop should sell a C spanner.
Won't make much diff though, I suspect you are going to say you put a pillion on & the bike handled like a chopper. They are woefully undersprung & a stiffer spring will make a world of diff. Did it to my RF which was similarly afflicted (several parts interchange). Then did it to a mate's Bandit & he was happy after that.
Adding preload won't get near making a diff.
Obviously they are a budget model & a new aftermarket shock would nicely help 14 years of wear.
Vinz0r
2nd May 2013, 16:19
Good grief, a decent bike shop should sell a C spanner.
Won't make much diff though, I suspect you are going to say you put a pillion on & the bike handled like a chopper. They are woefully undersprung & a stiffer spring will make a world of diff. Did it to my RF which was similarly afflicted (several parts interchange). Then did it to a mate's Bandit & he was happy after that.
Adding preload won't get near making a diff.
Obviously they are a budget model & a new aftermarket shock would nicely help 14 years of wear.
Close but not quite, I recently purchased the bike and after going for a ride and bouncing all over the place I discovered the preload is set at it's lowest setting. I assume the previous owners were a bit smaller than me so didn't mind, but even with one person on it's bloody horrible.
I might look into upgrading the shock, but can't really afford it at the moment so I'm looking at cheaper options for the meantime.
Might just purchase a random C spanner that looks about the right size and hope for the best.
bistard
2nd May 2013, 16:26
Close but not quite, I recently purchased the bike and after going for a ride and bouncing all over the place I discovered the preload is set at it's lowest setting. I assume the previous owners were a bit smaller than me so didn't mind, but even with one person on it's bloody horrible.
I might look into upgrading the shock, but can't really afford it at the moment so I'm looking at cheaper options for the meantime.
Might just purchase a random C spanner that looks about the right size and hope for the best.
Try a wrecker then,ride your bike to one & try said C spanner to make sure it fits
F5 Dave
2nd May 2013, 18:06
ok but it really won't help. You need a stiffer spring unless you are a ballerina. I think we used one from an old Slabby GSXR750, or could have been a old GSX600 teapot (leverage of linkage means springs can be stiffer on diff bikes). Think the std one Bandit was 7kg & the GSX/R was 8.8. Have to be careful working with springs, they store energy, but worked out a safe way to change them.
nzspokes
2nd May 2013, 18:53
Screw driver and a hammer, thank me later.
My old Bandit had a Busa shock in it that lifted the back a little. Handled very well. Common conversion.
roogazza
2nd May 2013, 19:05
Screw driver and a hammer, thank me later.
My old Bandit had a Busa shock in it that lifted the back a little. Handled very well. Common conversion.
Screwdriver ?? !!!! EeeeeeK ! maybe a brass or copper drift.
I swapped my Bandits rear shock for an 89' I think it was, gsxr1100 ? Gave another 25 mm ground clearance and damping that worked much better.
Also sped up the steering with the rear raised.
40mm jack up kit. Just a pair of dogbones. Works a treat. I weigh feck all and even preload cranked up it still sat really low.
Yes a bike shop should sell C-spanners. At least i do...
Robert Taylor
2nd May 2013, 21:00
I hope none of the butchers here giving ''advice'' are aircraft engineers? No apologies for having little time for stupid and rough as guts ''advice''. Some people may regard it as acceptable.
Its not neccessarily always that the shock is undersprung, always with these low production cost oem shocks there is way too little low speed compression damping. That means they will blow through their stroke too readily as the damping is at low shaft velocities not strong enough to slow down the movement. Stronger springing will help, but often this ''solution'' and the often horrible practice of different link arms acts as a fudge, its not actually getting to the source of the problem.
Certainly there will be shock absorbers from other models that can offer a solution, providing there are no clearance issues through the full stroke range, that the spring rate is somewhat correct and that the internal damping force character is suitable for the motion ratio applied to it.
We stock a number of different C sapnners, the issue is you dont really know which listing will fit properly until you physically try it on the shock
nzspokes
2nd May 2013, 21:33
Busa rear shocks go cheap on E Bay, seen them for $40US. Just google the conversion, there are heaps of threads on how to fit em up.
Vinz0r
3rd May 2013, 00:23
Mm tried a C spanner that mate uses for his coilovers but it was too big. Guess it needs a fairly specific size.
Perhaps a replacement shock from a Busa or GSXR will be the way to go if with the standard shock I am still going to get a lot of sag and bounce even with preload and rebound set up more appropriately.
Will keep an eye out for a cheap busa or GSXR1100 shock, couple on trademe at the moment but they're up around $200.
Thanks for all the help guys. Still keen on a C spanner if anyone has one or knows where to get it though :D
Eddieb
3rd May 2013, 12:46
I'm in the Tron and have a couple of C spanners of unknown origin in the bottom of the toolbox. I've owned lots of Suzuki's so there's a vague chance one might fit. You're welcome to come over and try them out.
Vinz0r
4th May 2013, 16:14
Yeah that'd be awesome thanks! When are you free? Have PM'd with my details.
Robert Taylor
5th May 2013, 09:57
Mm tried a C spanner that mate uses for his coilovers but it was too big. Guess it needs a fairly specific size.
Perhaps a replacement shock from a Busa or GSXR will be the way to go if with the standard shock I am still going to get a lot of sag and bounce even with preload and rebound set up more appropriately.
Will keep an eye out for a cheap busa or GSXR1100 shock, couple on trademe at the moment but they're up around $200.
Thanks for all the help guys. Still keen on a C spanner if anyone has one or knows where to get it though :D
$200 is cheap!!!
nzspokes
5th May 2013, 10:32
$200 is cheap!!!
$40 on ebay is cheaper.
Im off to order some fork springs
Madness
5th May 2013, 10:36
Im off to order some fork springs
Did you order the wrong ones last time or have they simply fucked out already?
Robert Taylor
5th May 2013, 14:21
$40 on ebay is cheaper.
Im off to order some fork springs
Probably milk and bread is cheaper as well. Perhaps you should move to North Mexico because everything is cheap???? If you lose your income and standard of living because everyone is buying overseas please make sure you are the first one on here complaining.
nzspokes
5th May 2013, 16:42
Did you order the wrong ones last time or have they simply fucked out already?
Different bike champ.
Madness
5th May 2013, 16:50
Different bike champ.
You wrote the Bandit off already chump?
nzspokes
5th May 2013, 17:32
You wrote the Bandit off already chump?
Yup. Shes fucked.
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