Yamaha FZR400RR LAMS?

[frisken]

Hey everyone,

Looking at buying a Yamaha FZR400RR and wanted to just make doubly, triply sure that it was actually LAMS approved. The NZTA website shows that the FZR400 is LAMS approved but I wanted to make sure the RR model was also approved, is anyone able to shed some light on this?

Thank-you!

[blackdog]

Check the rego. If it's an import you'll probably find the 'RR' part missing anyway.

[Drew]

Remember, it has to be unmodified. After market pipe is all it takes.

[FJRider]

Hey everyone,

Looking at buying a Yamaha FZR400RR and wanted to just make doubly, triply sure that it was actually LAMS approved. The NZTA website shows that the FZR400 is LAMS approved but I wanted to make sure the RR model was also approved, is anyone able to shed some light on this?

Thank-you!

The FZR400RR was a later and completely different generation of the model. MORE HP (an extra 20 ponies from memory)than the first of the FZR400's ... put it (well) out of the LAMs class.

[frisken]

Wow what a dick this guy is then, he's claiming it is LAMS approved on the TradeMe advert (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=587906334) and is starting to play games. I said I couldn't go above my maximum price range, he said a dude just made an offer of my price etc do I want to beat it and now apparently the dude has renegotiated so he'll let me have it still.

He seemed so legitimate until this point (this just happened). But glad you guys helped on the LAMS thing, I was a little skeptical as it seemed well too fast IMO but thought it might've been good to go under the new laws.

Thanks again guys, saved me there!! :)

[FJRider]

Wow what a dick this guy is then, he's claiming it is LAMS approved on the TradeMe advert (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=587906334) and is starting to play games. I said I couldn't go above my maximum price range, he said a dude just made an offer of my price etc do I want to beat it and now apparently the dude has renegotiated so he'll let me have it still.

He seemed so legitimate until this point (this just happened). But glad you guys helped on the LAMS thing, I was a little skeptical as it seemed well too fast IMO but thought it might've been good to go under the new laws.

Thanks again guys, saved me there!! :)

It had an aftermarket exhaust can which would have made it non compliant anyway ...

[The Reibz]

As a self diagnosed FZR addict I can tell you that this bike would be loads of fun. I got alot of love for FZR's and this one looks exceptionaly tidy.
To bad it aint lams compliant because you would have a shitload more fun on it than your 250

[frisken]

Haha I'm sure I would have, but that's kinda the point of having LAMS approved bikes! Thanks for the heads up about after market exhausts though, this isn't the case for every bike, correct? 250s are allowed after market exhausts etc?

[FJRider]

.. 250s are allowed after market exhausts etc?

Yes ... but why bother. 400's make more power as standard. Be patient and keep watching out ...

[frisken]

Haha just wanting to double check; trying to get my head around these new LAMS laws. Yeah I'm keeping my eyes out like a damn fox, trying to find something as I'm wanting a bike as soon as possible!

[nzspokes]

My 900 gets the same fuel economy.

[FJRider]

Haha just wanting to double check; trying to get my head around these new LAMS laws. Yeah I'm keeping my eyes out like a damn fox, trying to find something as I'm wanting a bike as soon as possible!

LAM's compliant ...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-310633760.htm

[McFatty1000]

My 900 gets the same fuel economy.

ahaha, thats better than my 250 then.
Just as well its not for economy

[Glowerss]

LAM's compliant ...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-310633760.htm

It's from RB Auckers though :ar15::sick::sick:

If ever there was a bike shop that deserved to go out of business, it's them.

[Drew]

It's from RB Auckers though :ar15::sick::sick:

If ever there was a bike shop that deserved to go out of business, it's them.I think the price and condition of that Katana are pretty good.

[Paul in NZ]

I think the price and condition of that Katana are pretty good.

Ditto - not to far of the mark at all and they are a shop....

[FJRider]

It's from RB Auckers though :ar15::sick::sick:

If ever there was a bike shop that deserved to go out of business, it's them.

I'm pretty sure there will be other bike shops that sell that model. As I recall ... Katman arranged a ride on one for Bosslady ... so they are around.

[FJRider]

Hey everyone,

Looking at buying a Yamaha FZR400RR and wanted to just make doubly, triply sure that it was actually LAMS approved. The NZTA website shows that the FZR400 is LAMS approved but I wanted to make sure the RR model was also approved, is anyone able to shed some light on this?

Thank-you!

I sent the seller an E.mail pointing out it is NOT LAM's compliant ... and he HAS changed the advertisement.

The 179 Kw is just a bit over the 150 allowed

[frisken]

Yeah the guy seemed nice enough, I txt him last night letting him know and he seemed genuinely shocked and said he'd changed the advert. It's good to know that he has actually done so. That Katana is kind of a hideous machine sadly, not too interested in it really. Are they decent though?

[jasonu]

I think the price and condition of that Katana are pretty good.

Wot he said. Not a bad looking bike with nice low km's for the money.

[FJRider]

Yeah the guy seemed nice enough, I txt him last night letting him know and he seemed genuinely shocked and said he'd changed the advert. It's good to know that he has actually done so. That Katana is kind of a hideous machine sadly, not too interested in it really. Are they decent though?

Pretty much a full sized copy of the original 80's 1100 Katana. With only a 400 engine of course. I think it's called "Retro" styling. You like it or you don't. They do go alright though ...

[Drew]

That Katana is kind of a hideous machine sadly, not too interested in it really. Are they decent though?


You are in a very small minority there.

The 1100 Katana is one of the most widely recognise "beautiful" bikes. Few fall into that category, along side the 916 Ducati, and a couple others.

[Katman]

That Katana is kind of a hideous machine sadly, not too interested in it really.

You clearly don't deserve one.

[imdying]

No, he's right, they are supremely fucking ugly. Anybody adding them to a list with a 916 is fucked in the head. Their only redeeming feature is the abnormality of their 'look'. It's a bit like Angelina Jolie... big lips give you something to talk about, but she's definitely no beauty.

[frisken]

Wait what, did someone just compare that Katana to a 916 Ducati?! I'm sorry, but that Katana isn't a great looking bike. I can understand that its look has a niche, but that niche is hardly a thing of beauty. It's unique and interesting, and has that retro vibe to it but I'd hardly give it any design awards.

[Drew]

I'd hardly give it any design awards.Cool story bro.

I'm pretty sure it won a few awards back in '81.

[imdying]

<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=fashion+from+1981&oe=utf-8&aq=t&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=vSiMUcuOGeSiigemoIHAAQ&biw=1574&bih=922&sei=vyiMUdruC-LpiAe0vYC4Aw">Go 1981!</a>

Quicky, niche, interesting, ground breaking... maybe all those things... but ugly as sin also.

[frisken]

I'm sorry you disagree with me Drew. Meanwhile, back in 1981 when all those groundbreaking design movements were happening ... Look people have different tastes, there's no need to go around badgering me because I don't like the look of some supposedly classically designed motorcycle. I don't see many bikes around that look like the Katana, and there's probably good reason for that, so clearly some people agree with my tastes.

[Drew]

Cooler story...

[nzspokes]

Cool story bro.

I'm pretty sure it won a few awards back in '81.

1981 called, they want their ugly bike back.

[Katman]

I don't see many bikes around that look like the Katana, and there's probably good reason for that, so clearly some people agree with my tastes.

There's not many of us that can adequately pull the look off.

[FJRider]

There's not many of us that can adequately pull the look off.

Being an experienced puller counts for little ... as an appreciation for what they are counts for more.




On some people ... the bike is simply wasted ... :shifty:

[imdying]

You can't argue their place in history for sure.

[ducatilover]

Just to clear it up, as the LAMS list is fucking useless and shows fuck all info, so every Dick, fag and Norman thinks his bike is LAMS approved, only the 1WG was an FZR400, the rest, like the 3TJ were FZR400R, or RR

But I'd take that Katana any day, they're way cooler (even though the 3TJ will eat it)

[sil3nt]

Just to clear it up, as the LAMS list is fucking useless and shows fuck all info, so every Dick, fag and Norman thinks his bike is LAMS approved, only the 1WG was an FZR400, the rest, like the 3TJ were FZR400R, or RR

But I'd take that Katana any day, they're way cooler (even though the 3TJ will eat it)
I would just ride the 3TJ if on a learners. They really need to clarify what models are available. FZR400 more of a name than a specific model.

[FJRider]

Just to clear it up, as the LAMS list is fucking useless and shows fuck all info, so every Dick, fag and Norman thinks his bike is LAMS approved, only the 1WG was an FZR400, the rest, like the 3TJ were FZR400R, or RR

But I'd take that Katana any day, they're way cooler (even though the 3TJ will eat it)

People just can't be bothered checking. And some claim anything to get a sale.

[ducatilover]

I would just ride the 3TJ if on a learners.
:niceone: I would too, very fun little bike

People just can't be bothered checking. And some claim anything to get a sale.

Too true

[Glowerss]

I would just ride the 3TJ if on a learners. They really need to clarify what models are available. FZR400 more of a name than a specific model.

You're not wrong. You could easily ride any of the FZR400s on your L/R and never get caught out on it. I'd be surprised if the rego even said FZR400RR. More likely then as not it just says "FZR400"

I always thought they'd print out LAMS on the regos for LAMS approved bikes. Still surprised they decided not too and leave enforcement completely up in the air. It really is a bit of a crapshoot.

Ducattilover is right too, everyone just looks at the list and goes "Hyobag 650? Sweet i've got one LAMS APPROVED IT IS!" Seems like half the people selling 400s think their bikes are LAMS simply cuz they're a 400. Fair few stealerships get LAMS wrong too, whether accidentally or on purpose though I'm still nots ure :no:

And the reason that Katana is for a reasonable price, is because Red Baron are fuckwits and they've had the bike for like 2 years now. They've had it forever. It's taken them that long to realize nobody is going to pay the $5,000 they originally had it listed for.

[Katman]

But I'd take that Katana any day, they're way cooler (even though the 3TJ will eat it)

I'm looking forward to getting my 400 on the track one day.

I reckon it could hold it's own.

[Mushu]

I would just ride the 3TJ if on a learners. They really need to clarify what models are available. FZR400 more of a name than a specific model.

Yeah, just go for it, the cops seem to have no idea what is and isn't on the list.
I got pulled over on the DR about a month ago, the cop (young guy) questioned me for about 10 minutes because he wouldn't believe me it was on the list, then mentioned a book that he can check and when I challenged him to check it he gave up, breath tested me, and let me on my way.
Jokes on him, it has an exhaust making it not LAMS compliant. lol

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Edit: I'd love to own a katana I think they one of the sexiest bikes ever made.

[st00ji]

your insurance assessor will probably know better though

[ducatilover]

I'm looking forward to getting my 400 on the track one day.

I reckon it could hold it's own. It'll do quite well I reckon, and look awesome. I've got a mate with a 250 model and I've considered offering him some dosh for it, but I dunno if I can put up with that many revs anymore, the 400 would be ideal for me.
Nicer to ride on the road over a reasonable distance than a full on 400 sport bike.



your insurance assessor will probably know better though

They can't know better than the hopeless list can they? If they do, the list will have to be changed.

[Katman]

It'll do quite well I reckon, and look awesome. I've got a mate with a 250 model and I've considered offering him some dosh for it, but I dunno if I can put up with that many revs anymore, the 400 would be ideal for me.
Nicer to ride on the road over a reasonable distance than a full on 400 sport bike.


I'm not very familiar with pulling umpteen thousand revs either.

The 400 Katana is a particularly sweet handling bike however.

[ducatilover]

I'm not very familiar with pulling umpteen thousands revs either.

The 400 Katana is a particularly sweet handling bike however.

Is it the same lump as the GSF400? I think the 400V Bandit was around the same time and they were nice. But I think the Kat has a nicer looking chassis, and well, Katana looks...

[Mushu]

They can't know better than the hopeless list can they? If they do, the list will have to be changed.

I think he's referring to my statement that the cop enforcing these LAMS restriction rules doesn't really know what's on the list. I would assume the insurance companies would know exactly what conforms and you wouldn't be able to sneak modifications (like the exhaust on my DR) past them.

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[Katman]

Is it the same lump as the GSF400? I think the 400V Bandit was around the same time and they were nice. But I think the Kat has a nicer looking chassis, and well, Katana looks...

I imagine they're basically the same motor.

The Katana has the benefit of the 'sit in' feel though, rather than the 'perched on' feel.

[ducatilover]

I imagine they're basically the same motor.

The Katana has the benefit of the 'sit in' feel though, rather than the 'perched on' feel.

And they don't look like a hand bag, like a 400 Bandit :bleh:
I'll have to get/borrow/ride one of the 400s.

Or Sneak that 250 away from my mate and put something a tiny bit more inspiring in it

[Katman]

And they don't look like a hand bag, like a 400 Bandit :bleh:
I'll have to get/borrow/ride one of the 400s.

Or Sneak that 250 away from my mate and put something a tiny bit more inspiring in it

Stop by one day.

You're welcome to take mine for a ride.

[ducatilover]

Stop by one day.

You're welcome to take mine for a ride.

:niceone: If I get time I will on my way to the Hawkes Bay rally

[Hacking]

Fzr400r great bike , or bimota with a fzr400 motor in it