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dogsnbikes

14th May 2013, 08:23

+1 on badge for SCRR 2013 I have sent emails to address's I have with no reply as of yet still waiting on badge & cert

We have wondered the same,as there seemed to be alot of avoidance on the topic when it was rasied iin Bluff.
I do fail too see where our rego cost went,considering they indicated they had 90 bikes registered,and $150/rider plus $90/pillon sure adds up..

However we did enjoy the event,but if they can't afford the badges they should just say so..as its not the first time where people haven't recieved badges when they have been told they would recieve a badge.

FJRider

14th May 2013, 12:55

body or bike :rofl:

BODY parts actually ..... :killingme

I just had my right hip joint replaced. By December I should be ride fit. And the bike legal again ...

banditrider

14th May 2013, 19:45

Too true. Still waiting for year bar, extension patch & vid, from 2011 GC.

Me too - and a mug for #10. Don't want it all to be over...

May have to go South if there's no GC this year...

KoroJ

14th May 2013, 22:31

BODY parts actually ..... :killingme

I just had my right hip joint replaced. By December I should be ride fit. And the bike legal again ...

Shouldn't be a problem. I had my left hip done at the end of August last year and did the Capital 1000
km Cruise at the beginning of November.

I only decided to get it done when they pulled the pin on last year's GC...so that decision wasn't all bad on the part of the Rustys.

FJRider

14th May 2013, 22:46

Shouldn't be a problem. I had my left hip done at the end of August last year and did the Capital 1000
km Cruise at the beginning of November.

I only decided to get it done when they pulled the pin on last year's GC...so that decision wasn't all bad on the part of the Rustys.

The first 1000 km's is the easy bit. For the last 600 km's ... it gets harder.

Racing Dave

15th May 2013, 07:30

We have wondered the same,as there seemed to be alot of avoidance on the topic when it was rasied iin Bluff.
I do fail too see where our rego cost went,considering they indicated they had 90 bikes registered,and $150/rider plus $90/pillon sure adds up..

However we did enjoy the event,but if they can't afford the badges they should just say so..as its not the first time where people haven't recieved badges when they have been told they would recieve a badge.

When you look at the income from entry fees, the actual cost of running such an event, and if you know the true cost of providing badges, then you are drawn to only one conclusion as to why they might not be provided...

Like other the posters on this thread, I too enjoyed the Rally, but the sour taste from Bluff lingers.

insomnia01

15th May 2013, 09:49

I didn't go to the after function @ Eagle Tavern but met a few riders in Invercargill grabing a bite & rumours apparently where already surfacing at the tavern as to why Lee didn't attend the function, seems a big waste after reading the last trumpet advising all that issues had been fixed from 2012

insomnia01

6th June 2013, 08:04

:whistle: anything yet ??? still no replies from email's sent....

Racing Dave

8th June 2013, 14:15

nadroj

8th June 2013, 18:25

For some reason I don't think barbs will work with Lee.
Several rusty members have been aware of the situation for a while and have voiced their concerns with some suggesting alternatives.

trustme

8th June 2013, 21:23

Mine, and others that I know of, have yet to have any replies to emails. The less than subtle comments in BRM have triggered no response.

My article in July Kiwi Rider (on the racks in a couple of days) has a couple of gentle barbs, too.

An explanation from Lee is due - anyone know how to prod some action?

Good luck with that, I suspect any explanation will be a long time coming. Lee always organised these runs because he enjoyed it. If he has to give everyone explanations for everything then the enjoyment has gone, that's part of the reason he never wanted sponsorship or to become more commercial.
Living up to others expectations can be a pain in the arse because in many instances the expectations are totally unrealistic. I don't know the in's & out's of all this but I have known Lee for 30 years

Hope it all works out for him, good bugger when all is said & done.

Racing Dave

9th June 2013, 09:31

I don't think my expectations are too high - all I want is a reply to an email, and the fulfilment of the terms for entering the Southern Cross. Simple courtesy, I reckon.

Blackbird

9th June 2013, 12:11

An explanation from Lee is due - anyone know how to prod some action?
Has anyone actually picked up the phone for a one-on-one? I've always found Lee a decent bloke in a 1:1 situation in the past although circumstances might have changed.

insomnia01

10th June 2013, 08:55

"the fulfilment of the terms for entering the Southern Cross".

thats all I'm looking for...... otherwise what did my entry fee get me ?

Racing Dave

10th June 2013, 13:00

Has anyone actually picked up the phone for a one-on-one? .

On the Rusty website, the only contact details are a PO Box address and email details, neither of which have proved effective.

You supply a phone number, I'll be happy to make the call.

Cheers

Big Dave

10th June 2013, 13:33

Why don't you contact the media.....no, wait......

Blackbird

10th June 2013, 16:55

On the Rusty website, the only contact details are a PO Box address and email details, neither of which have proved effective.

You supply a phone number, I'll be happy to make the call.

Cheers

Sorry Dave Lee was still in Auckland last time I spoke to him

*caution*

27th June 2013, 17:26

Anyone know if its happening this year?

I heard a rumor it was, but haven't heard anything since, nothing on their website.

Madness

27th June 2013, 17:27

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/158577-Rusty-Nuts?highlight=rusty+nuts

Hitcher

27th June 2013, 19:17

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/158577-Rusty-Nuts?highlight=rusty+nuts

There should be laws against posting circular links. Seriously.

Madness

27th June 2013, 19:18

There should be laws against posting circular links. Seriously.

It wasn't before the post before mine got merged. Settle, Petal.

That said, I fucking hate that in Excel.

Hitcher

27th June 2013, 19:19

It wasn't before the post before mine got merged. Settle, Petal.

Oh. OK then.

DougieNZ

22nd July 2013, 11:41

Yes there are a few. I (too) am prepared to give Lee the benefit of the doubt. He has organised this rally for many years and had provided (with the help of the other Rusty's) thousands and thousands of kms of riding joy for thousands of motorcyclists. There are several questions unanswered. Have we seen our last Grand Challenge? What happened at the last Southern Cross? Is this the end of the Rusty's? I can feel for those who have lost money and I think it could be helpful for Lee to send out an update to everyone on what is going on. I must admit though, that a couple of those wondering or speculating and discussing this with me I have asked them the following question. Would you be prepared to step up and organise the Grand Challenge this year? Normally this was met with a shuffling of feet and the subject being changed quickly. That is part of the problem. For the Rusty's to go on if Lee cannot or will not - someone else is going to have to step up and be counted to head it up. Or I fear (leaving aside my personal nervousness about the Grand Challenge concept) it will be all over...

Racing Dave

22nd July 2013, 21:16

I think it could be helpful for Lee to send out an update to everyone on what is going on.

If the tone of any update resembles that of the info sheet I received before this year's Southern Cross Rally, then I don't want it. I've never read such a rude and aggressive "Welcome to my event, this is how it's going to happen". It entirely consisted of a rant regarding don't do this, that, or the next thing. Unsigned, poorly spelt, and quite unnessessarily disagreeable.

I don't care if Lee has had enough of running events, all he has to do is say so, and the matter will rest. It's the complete lack of any courtesy that winds me up. There are other organisers of events who know how to treat entrants to their events with respect, and in return they are respected.

XP@

22nd July 2013, 22:33

Just got this from the Rusty Nuts webmaster, please don't shoot the messenger.

Hi All

As many of you have noticed, Lee is currently without phone and internet. He's asked me to post the following to the website, and I've opted to send it on to website subscribers.

================================

The 2013 Grand Challenge won't be running this year. This is partly due to continuing problems with obtaining a new venue and partly due to the event just not being affordable to run, and partly due to the unneeded personal stress.

It was fun but 25 years was a good innings, so it's time to call it a day and RNMC will be put into limbo. I know some will not like it but I have to bite the bullet. This is not up for discussion.

RNMC is closed for foreseeable future or ever, whichever comes first. It is affecting my health trying to keep it going.

Thanks to everyone for their participation

- Lee

Hitcher

22nd July 2013, 22:37

Very disappointing. So those of us who have parted with coin in readiness can expect a refund?

Racing Dave

22nd July 2013, 23:05

Expect away - let us know how you get on.

DougieNZ

23rd July 2013, 09:18

I am glad clarification has been forthcoming

I have another interesting question here Hitcher:

Assuming that refunds and outstanding badges are forwarded, that will maybe be the last we hear of the Rusty Nuts Motorcycle Club. I think Lee in particular (and the other Rusty's in general) are due many thanks for the huge effort that has gone in to organising many events over the years. The ones I have attended have been awesone, and from my personal perspective he has been nothing but a gentleman and an efficient organiser who has put many hours in to ensuring participants enjoy themselves. I can undertand others perspectives may be different, but I can only speak from my own experience.

The big question is:

Will one of the Rusty's or the someone else be prepared to take up the challenge and organise the event? Maybe due to timing the Grand Challenge may be out this year - but is the Southern Cross 2015 achievable? The answer is yes - but only if someone is prepared to step up to the plate...

Hitcher

23rd July 2013, 09:32

While Lee is the driving force and event coordinator, he doesn't do everything for a Grand Challenge on his own. His team of volunteers provides considerable support: Route scoping and mapping; liaison with the constabulary; liaison with fuel stations; scrutineering; checkpoint crews; recovery vehicle/tail-end Charlie sweeping team; catering; venue management and so on. The logistics are considerable.

There's also some investment needed to underwrite the organisation of this too: production of badges and other ceremonial collateral; venue hire; catering costs; running costs for support vehicles and probably much more. Then there's the issue of debt recovery, uncertainty of participation/late cancellations.

Organising an alternative event requires more than just another Lee. It probably needs another 20-odd people prepared to set aside a weekend and some out-of-pocket cash to make a "Grand Challenge" happen.

I'd be happy to throw a hat into a ring to maintain the legacy of this iconic event, but only if there was a bunch of dedicated souls prepared to do likewise.

DougieNZ

23rd July 2013, 15:17

I'd be happy to throw a hat into a ring to maintain the legacy of this iconic event, but only if there was a bunch of dedicated souls prepared to do likewise.

Therein lies the problem methinks. I would not help with the Grand Challenge as I fundimentally think it is dangerous (even though I have done one myself). But that is a whole other debate!
:chase:
But I would be prepared to assist with a Southern Cross. I really enjoyed the last one I did...

banditrider

23rd July 2013, 18:04

Assuming that refunds and outstanding badges are forwarded, that will maybe be the last we hear of the Rusty Nuts Motorcycle Club. I think Lee in particular (and the other Rusty's in general) are due many thanks for the huge effort that has gone in to organising many events over the years. The ones I have attended have been awesone, and from my personal perspective he has been nothing but a gentleman and an efficient organiser who has put many hours in to ensuring participants enjoy themselves. I can undertand others perspectives may be different, but I can only speak from my own experience.

I think most who have completed more than one Rusty Ride would agree with that. I'm still after a badge and a ten GC mug but concerned I may never see it.

There is no doubt of the huge amount of work that has been put in over the years and you can definitely understand it getting a bit much after a while.

As much as I like the GC - it is a lot of risk for someone to take on. The Rusty's have been lucky not have had a very serious incident over the years but in these H&S and PC mad times you'd have to ask who wants to take on the risk? A real shame.

Likewise Hitch, I might be able to be called upon in the future to help in some little way.

KoroJ

23rd July 2013, 21:05

Oh well, bloody good to have a definitive answer to the question after all the speculation.

...and for those that need their long ride fix later in the year, albeit little more than a cardboard cutout replica and poor second cousin to a GC, the Capital 1,000 Km Cruise will be on again this year on 09 November and this year, just for the sake of the Northerners, we are looking at a potential start from Putaruru....or somewhere up that aways...maybe?? (That is in addition to starts from Wgtn, Masterton, Napier & Palmy)

It is only a day ride but!...and aimed as an intro ride to potential GC'ers!...so don't expect midnight fangs up goat tracks. But I guess with no more GC's, we'll have to describe it as an intro to the TT2000.

Details should be posted in mid-August.

Damn I'm going to miss my GC fix though.

Racing Dave

24th July 2013, 15:51

But I guess with no more GC's, we'll have to describe it as an intro to the TT2000.

For those who are interested in the TT2000, the website for next year's ride should be going live in a week (www.tt2000.org), and for North Islanders who are interested I happen to know that there is to be a split start in 2014, with one in the Palmerston North area and the other in Blenheim. 30 NI checkpoints, 60 SI ones, and all riders will finish in Chch.

XP@

24th July 2013, 16:03

...so don't expect midnight fangs up goat tracks.
please... or what about midday fangs up goat tracks, just a couple. :devil2:

KoroJ

24th July 2013, 21:20

please... or what about midday fangs up goat tracks, just a couple. :devil2:

You can take whatever goat tracks you want as long as you photograph the designated checkpoints!

Gremlin

24th July 2013, 21:35

please... or what about midday fangs up goat tracks, just a couple. :devil2:
He's already been there, and crossed that river... earlier this year on his ST1300.

Then ask him about picking it up after dropping etc :laugh:

insomnia01

25th July 2013, 16:12

..and for those that need their long ride fix later in the year, poor second cousin to a GC, the Capital 1,000 Km Cruise will be on again this year on 09 November and this year, just for the sake of the Northerners, we are looking at a potential start from Putaruru....or somewhere up that aways...maybe?? (That is in addition to starts from Wgtn, Masterton, Napier & Palmy).

Looking forward to another C1KC :banana:

biggo

5th October 2013, 06:16

Latest release on Rusty Nuts web site below

RUSTY NUTS MC has Shut Down - There will be no further events held.

I have the first 50 SCRR badges being sent out on the 20th Sept then a further lot will be produced and sent out as soon as possible. Who gets the first fifty will be drawn at random, I'm not going to play favorites.

I am disposing of all assets to make good any refunds. I will be in contact with those who have a claim. Outstanding claims from carried over events from years previous to 2012 will be last in payment line.

If you didn't go on an event, I did hold the next event open but this has stretched in some cases to year after year of not attending and expectations that this would be for ever. It has sunk the entire thing. With more persons turning up, out numbering paying attendees. I funded the shortfall,

Now due to health reasons I am pulling the pin. The events were always supposed to be fun, now they have just become a reason for some to cause unpleasantness, I will not let these few persons cause me further stress. The stress put on me by various others in the world of officialdom, the motorcycle world, with events of similar nature, culminating in threats to my job, and family are just not worth it. This has been backed up by a few who were event attendees.

If I am going to put more funds into it personally it will be to bury it once and for all. Not to prop up the body to attempt to make it live again. Those registering claim, be aware that they are being settled from my own finances, and I will do so ASAP I have disposed of my motorcycles to cover some costs, The rest I will manage in due course.

There will be an announcement here of RNMC stock for sale in due course. There are spares of badges, patches etc which will be made available.

I did enjoy the events, but no more. As with all good things, there are those who feel they have a right to what they did not create. RNMC was and will be always mine. Instead of tearing things down, you should try to do things for yourselves. Building something from the ground up is harder than ripping it down. If there are faults with RNMC I take total ownership of them, they are mine and mine alone. RNMC personal have no responsibility.

The name Rusty Nuts MC and all its abbreviations etc remain under my assertion of copyright. All logos; etc remain my intellectual property and can not be reproduced without permission. To the RNMC members I will be in touch in due cause to thank you for your years of assistance. RNMC members are in no way responsible for anything to do with this decision.

The first 23 years were fun, the next two were a trial, and the last has been a hardship. My riding days are over and it has not a good note to go out on, such is life.

Lee Rusty.

Meanie

6th October 2013, 09:09

A bit sad really, the rides my wife and I went on were well organised and enjoyable.
We knew there was something wrong on the SC earlier in the year but even then the Rustys that were there made the event go off without a hitch. Hopefully we get our badges but I wont hold my breath
Good luck to Lee and the rest of the Rusty,s and a big Thank You for your effort in the past rides :clap:

pritch

6th October 2013, 13:20

Sorry to read that. I was not a member, and know nothing of what happened, but the story seems strangely familiar. Too many seem keen to join something then try to change it - or sometimes set about creating a competing organisation. Valuable energy or resources are used to fight the subsequent brushfires rather than trying to meet the original goals.

Whatever, Lee has my sympathy. Not that it helps...

Hitcher

6th October 2013, 16:22

Sad news, but good things rarely endure for ever.

RNMC runs were legend for endurance-focused riders. Brilliantly organised and run by a tight team of enthusiasts coordinated by Lee.

Grand Challenges were our gig. I started 7 and completed 6. Mrs H has done 5. We were expectantly pumped for another one this year, suffering hugely after last year's was postponed.

We also did the Mini Returns run in 2008 -- four days from Invercargill to Kaitaia, reversing the route the Mini took in Goodbye Pork Pie. Oarsome, as David Tua once remarked.

I would have loved to have kept doing GCs for as long as I was up to it. I was also keen to do a Southern Cross.

The more we had to do with these events, the more we understood exactly what happened behind the scenes to make them work. Lee should take a great deal of pride from his achievements, not only in organising icon events (and Icon events) but also for getting people to come back for more. The GC's safety record was impressive too, despite the lengths a very few went to, myself included, to damage themselves and their machines.

The Rustys and Lee were just great with all they did for Jane after my 2010 GC off, and for the welcome I got showing up again for the 2011 event.

I owe you wonderful folk a lot. May your future endeavours treat you well. Hopefully we'll catch up on the road again somewhere, sometime.

Blackbird

6th October 2013, 20:30

Sad news, but good things rarely endure for ever.

RNMC runs were legend for endurance-focused riders. Brilliantly organised and run by a tight team of enthusiasts coordinated by Lee

Couldn't agree more Brett. During my 5 GC's and 1 Southern Cross, Lee and his team were never less than totally professional and unfailingly helpful. Take a bow guys, you've earned it :clap:

MarkW

6th October 2013, 21:33

Lee,

A voice from the long distant past - I started and finished 7 GC's between 1988 and 1994 inclusive; your events were a challenge but I did enjoy them. Sorry to hear that things are not flash for you but thanks for starting a concept so many years ago and running things for so long.

Mark W

XP@

7th October 2013, 09:49

A huge thank you to Lee and the other Rusties over the years.
I learned a lot about riding and myself from going their rides, I also met loads of really great people.

But looking forward, I am still interested in doing similar rides in the future and I think I am not alone!

If anyone is interested I have started a facebook group for the purpose of trying to set up a new ride.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/695895913771564/

And for those who don't frequent facebook or kiwibiker there is a form here: https://sites.google.com/site/nzlongdistanceriders/

Gremlin

7th October 2013, 13:23

Sad to hear, but guess it was on the cards after a few issues.

I'll be stuck on 4 GCs, after Zapf got me addicted in 2008 (and then he stopped doing them while I carried on :rolleyes:), and never managed to do a SCRR - more for the sake of having done one. In 2008 I was a fresh newbie, in awe of people's ability to look at a map for a few seconds and go "ah yep, so that's the route, OK" (which includes Hitch), through to 2010 and 2011, helping others with their route and being able to say, heh, just did that piece a couple of weeks ago...

Middle of the night, gas stations contained equally crazy people in varying degrees of appearance all taking on food and fuel, checking their numbers. Catching up and passing people in the night, towing others through long sections of the night. The GC especially was one for the more hardcore, as riding for 1600km through the night put most people off.

I really enjoyed them and the atmosphere. I also remember challenging Lee after one run, walking in and cheerfully declaring "That's all you got?" I definitely saw a glint in his eye...

Slowest run was 23.25 hours in 2008, through the hell of back roads and nasty weather. Being told in Masterton we were an hour behind and I'm thinking whaaaat??! Quickest was 2010, I had an extra fuel tank linked in which doubled my range and I finished in 17.66 hours only needing to stop about half the times as previous.

Thanks Lee for the great memories!

Kickaha

7th October 2013, 13:34

, towing others through long sections of the night.

When I did it quite some time ago, one broken bike was supposedly hitting up to 180kmh being towed by another rider to make about the last stretch home

Gremlin

7th October 2013, 14:48

When I did it quite some time ago, one broken bike was supposedly hitting up to 180kmh being towed by another rider to make about the last stretch home
You crazy buggers!

I meant more the virtual tow, tacking onto my rear wheel... You southerners are more crazy than us northerners :laugh:

Kickaha

7th October 2013, 14:52

You crazy buggers!

I meant more the virtual tow, tacking onto my rear wheel... You southerners are more crazy than us northerners :laugh:

Nothing to do with me, couple of Northern guys, 1100 Katana towing an F1 Ducati

KoroJ

19th October 2013, 17:45

*sigh*....I guess the Grand Challenge was scheduled to be run this weekend.

.....easy to see why they pulled the plug...The weather is too good!!

banditrider

19th October 2013, 17:52

*sigh*....I guess the Grand Challenge was scheduled to be run this weekend.

.....easy to see why they pulled the plug...The weather is too good!!

Hell, we'd be getting well stuck into it by now! Dammit!

Gremlin

19th October 2013, 19:16

Hell, we'd be getting well stuck into it by now! Dammit!
Nothing stopping you going for a nice little ride :yes:

Unless your damn boss is half way around the world :oi-grr:

Hitcher

19th October 2013, 21:07

There's a full moon up. It's amazing out there. Sigh.

puddy

19th October 2013, 22:53

Yeah, would have been a nice night for it. I have always enjoyed their rides. Sad that it's not on.

insomnia01

3rd December 2013, 12:52

anyone received their badge for completing the SCRR in march ?? got a reply from Lee sometime ago that these had been sent out BUT I'm not holding my breath just wondering if anyone had received anything.....

Meanie

3rd December 2013, 12:54

No badge for the 2013 sc and don't think there will be one

Racing Dave

3rd December 2013, 19:37

I'm not holding my breath just wondering if anyone had received anything.....

I tried holding my breath while awaiting the receipt of my badge, but all I got was blue in the face.

Lee's promises seem very hollow.

Meanie

30th December 2013, 07:58

Well monie and I are stoked, our southern cross badges turned up in the mail this morning. Thank you Rusties

insomnia01

30th December 2013, 09:40

be interesting to see how many make it out..... :wait: I'm not holding my breath for mine but you never now

Meanie

30th December 2013, 09:41

If like to think we all will get our badges, certainly took me by surprise

insomnia01

30th December 2013, 14:04

lee did mention that they had @50 ready to be sent out months ago ( slow boat seeing as you have just got yours ) & the remainder would be sent in good time :(

Wiki Drifter

18th April 2014, 12:53

I just stumbled across this alternative event. Looks like it will have the same format as the GC. Count me in :scooter:

http://www.distanceriders.org.nz/the-north-island-1600.html

Blackbird

18th April 2014, 13:08

I just stumbled across this alternative event. Looks like it will have the same format as the GC. Count me in :scooter:

http://www.distanceriders.org.nz/the-north-island-1600.html

Organised by some of our own venerable Kiwi Biker members. Well done chaps :clap:

KoroJ

18th April 2014, 19:45

The North Island 1600 has been advertised on this site: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/163597-North-Island-1-600-11-amp-12-October-2014

There have been no entries as yet though and without entries there won't be an event.

Racing Dave

19th April 2014, 17:22

... continue to be hollow, as expected.

Gremlin

19th April 2014, 19:25

... continue to be hollow, as expected.
Last I saw, the club has shut down (barring any amazing eventuality), so no more promises, no more rides etc.

The guys running the NI 1600 are your best North Island crack at a 1k miler.

insomnia01

20th April 2014, 10:43

The guys running the NI 1600 are your best North Island crack at a 1k miler.

or just go on your own 1k ride :headbang:

Meanie

20th April 2014, 10:46

Hopefully they will do the Southern Cross as well. Love that one

Hitcher

20th April 2014, 17:07

Hopefully they will do the Southern Cross as well. Love that one

One thing at a time! I guess NZ Distance Riders won't be able to call their event the "Southern Cross".

Meanie

20th April 2014, 17:22

Fair enough. Can't see why we couldn't call it the Southern Cross, unless rusty nuts plan to bring it to life again.

Racing Dave

20th April 2014, 17:54

Last I saw, the club has shut down (barring any amazing eventuality), so no more promises, no more rides etc.

Ah, but Lee did make a promise, that all those who entered last year's Southern Cross would get their badges.

A few might have, but the majority...not so much. Thus, hollow promise.

Meanie

20th April 2014, 17:57

I must have been one of the lucky ones, monie and I received ours earlier in the year

insomnia01

22nd April 2014, 21:17

I must have been one of the lucky ones, monie and I received ours earlier in the year

must be who you know :msn-wink:

jellywrestler

22nd April 2014, 21:50

One thing at a time! I guess NZ Distance Riders won't be able to call their event the "Southern Cross".

what about the Southern Cross pub in Wellington, did they give rusty nuts permission to use their name in the first place?
nest thing you won't be able to use the word Haka!!

Racing Dave

24th April 2014, 08:19

One thing at a time! I guess NZ Distance Riders won't be able to call their event the "Southern Cross".

Given that the Rusty Nuts' event (despite declaring that it did) doesn't take in any of the most northern, western, or southern rideable points in NZ, why would you want to call it that? Some small consolation is that at least it went as far east as you could ride.

In fairness, the western-most point takes a bit of an effort to get to, but is worth it.

I've always seen the humour in the Cape Reinga checkpoint being west of the Cape Egmont one, and that the bulk of the South Island is further west again, but then Lee's sense of humour has been distinctly lacking, judging by any written material I've received.

Gremlin

7th January 2015, 16:26

Got an email from Lee saying check out the website... long story there: http://rustynuts.org.nz/

Blackbird

7th January 2015, 16:47

Got an email from Lee saying check out the website... long story there: http://rustynuts.org.nz/

Likewise - long distance events are going to get a bit crowded,eh? :msn-wink: whilst I got along with Lee and his team just fine in past events, I'm presuming that his re-entry is more to do with the spat than giving the riders extra long distance events.

DougieNZ

7th January 2015, 16:52

The excuses for non payment/issue of outstanding items continue. So shall we just add this one to the list?

Of course there are two sides to every story. My view is that if Lee is to maintain any credibility in the motorcycling community he should immediately provide the badges and other items owed to many riders who have already paid for them before he asks for any more money from anyone for anything. Nothing that had happened to the club name should or would prevent him from doing that

I would warn anyone contemplating giving Lee any money for anything not to - until all outstanding items are taken care of.

Hitcher

7th January 2015, 17:18

Surely Lee is aware of the NZ Distance Riders and their successful foray into the 1,600km-in-24-hours space? Their event for 2015 is confirmed for 10-11 October, pricing arrangements set and registration website live at www.distanceriders.org.nz.

One week later we're now supposed to believe that the "Rusty Nuts", or whatever Lee intends to trade as, will be doing something similar?

A similar story seems to exist for the Southern Cross Rally, with a credible alternative now in place.

The community of riders prepared to commit to such events is small. It's also sceptical and scarred by recent experiences with the Rustys. That reputational taint makes it hard for more credible event organisers to gain support for their events.

Gremlin

7th January 2015, 17:31

Likewise - long distance events are going to get a bit crowded,eh? :msn-wink: whilst I got along with Lee and his team just fine in past events, I'm presuming that his re-entry is more to do with the spat than giving the riders extra long distance events.
Same here, but too much recent history of events being canned while riders enroute to start, people not getting what they paid for etc. Sadly, too wary of that to seriously consider it's going to run smoothly. Did... uh, 4 GC I think, never ended up doing a SCRR.

Natural disclaimer, I know several organisers of Distance Riders and was an Event Controller for the last 1600... in case anyone thinks I'm biased...

GrayWolf

8th January 2015, 00:24

Same here, but too much recent history of events being canned while riders enroute to start, people not getting what they paid for etc. Sadly, too wary of that to seriously consider it's going to run smoothly. Did... uh, 4 GC I think, never ended up doing a SCRR.

Natural disclaimer, I know several organisers of Distance Riders and was an Event Controller for the last 1600... in case anyone thinks I'm biased...

biased, Gremlin, you?

the distance riders was my first 1000 miler 'organised ride', and it was very well done, so my money will be going with them gain this year, not sure about using the MT again though... :bleh::bleh::bleh:

Gremlin

8th January 2015, 00:50

the distance riders was my first 1000 miler 'organised ride', and it was very well done, so my money will be going with them gain this year, not sure about using the MT again though... :bleh::bleh::bleh:
I'll hire myself out as an emergency fuel tanker for the next event... let's see... what do I need? I'll put my gear on :lol:

insomnia01

8th January 2015, 06:33

Distance Riders I think is the new wave of long distance riding in NZ, the damage to the Rustys creed is already done & I doubt any riders would be giving Lee $$$$ as the SCRR 2013 has highlighted, Lloyd I don't know from a bar of soap & have no idea what his plans are with the Rights to the RNMC name but it seems like a sinking ship if you ask me :wait: Again, a Lee promise has been made regarding badges but only time will tell.......:sleep::sleep::sleep:

XP@

8th January 2015, 10:25

It's January and only 9 months to go before the Distance Riders NI1600. I think I can start to get excited again!

We had some great feedback from riders so I think we can make it even better this time :)

Please head on over to http://www.distanceriders.org.nz and register yourself (and your friends, it's never to late for a late christmas present) for this years ride.

Racing Dave

8th January 2015, 13:22

Here's a partial quote from Lee's latest rant:

SO I am forced to organise a different commemorative to those who are still owed one. It will be different to the normal SCRR badge.

I am short of funds to do this as they are being funded from my own pocket as is the legal defences I am being forced to put into place.

No - the badges are funded by the entrants to the last SCRR who haven't received what they paid for.

Meanie

8th January 2015, 15:08

Pity the whole Rusty Nuts thing has turned out the way it has but guess we gotta move forward. I did enjoy their rides and as i said earlier we must have been one of the lucky ones to get our SC badges
I am looking forward to seeing how the new NZ Distance riders goes ahead, I like the social emphasis they have put on it and it doesn't look like just a money spinner, not that i have a problem for paying to enter these rides
Ill be doing the next Round the Block run in a bit over two years if its on. Cant do the one coming up unfortunately as we made other plans when the Rustys imploded