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cfxjason
17th May 2013, 10:46
hi there i have a gsx650f and want to no what people think of them and witch one to get ...cheers
slofox
17th May 2013, 11:40
hi there i have a gsx650f and want to no what people think of them and witch one to get ...cheers
I've had Oxford heated grips for five years or so. They've worked perfectly for me. I fitted them myself without fucking too many things up (watch for glue spilling on the paintwork!). I'd recommend them.
Gremlin
17th May 2013, 11:59
Used them on a couple of bikes over the last 6+ years. One controller failure (on the old rotary dial) and the 4 setting adjustable temp is excellent.
I'd stay away from the sports grip dimpled pattern. Grips wear down fast and I found they got slippery when my gloves were wet. Original swirl type pattern seems to be long lasting.
I have the daytona heated grips.. I like it because it has 3 settings: off, hot (takes a minute or 2 to get there), freakin hot (takes like 30 secs to get there). Also, the grips are comfy.
hi there i have a gsx650f and want to no what people think of them and witch one to get ...cheers
The one with the broom?
If you are a female, yeah get some, I got some for my wife.
dogsnbikes
17th May 2013, 12:55
I have the Daytona hot grips on 3 of my bikes,They all have a 4 heat level control and with the big orange button (about 50c coin size) they are easy to use with gloves on.
willytheekid
17th May 2013, 13:02
Im about to fit some this weekend! :niceone: (finaly)
I went for the Oxford Light hot grips...due to having a 90's honda! (There charging systems can be..."temperamental"--they can shit themselves just by looking at them funny!:laugh: )
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These have a 3 amp draw, instead of the standard 4ish amps of the normal Oxford Grips, Yeah, not much diff I know, but it may help..and beside, they only have a 5 deg difference when on high and the switch is smaller so its easier to hide.
For a big bike like the OP's (That has a reliable charging system!), the standard hot grips would be perfect:niceone: (Just remember to wire them into the ignition so you don't get a flat battery if you leave them on, or when some arsehole walks past ya bike an turns them on for ya!:facepalm:....oh, and use an in-line fuse!
pritch
17th May 2013, 13:04
My experience has put me off Oxford.
Heated grips are great but the problem with the Oxford grips is the crappy quality contoller/switch. I went through several switches with the first pair of grips that I had. The quality was just embarrassing.
On my current bike, Oxford had changed to a new switch type so I thought I'd give them another try. They worked fine until one day the grips started to heat up and couldn't be turned off. I had to disconnect the wire from the battery. A replacement switch was supplied - when I went to start the bike later that day the grips were warm but the battery was flat. The replacement switch had done exactly the same thing.
The next replacement was ok but I didn't use the grips over summer. When I went to turn them on recently they wouldn't work. The switch had failed.
The above story is in the nature of a summary, I have actually lost count of the number of switches I have been through. This is all far too exciting for me so off came the grips and into the shit can they went.
It's a shame about the Oxford stuff, the idea is good but the quality is lacking.
I have no experience with the Daytona grips. I have been told that the only way to avoid the crap quality components is to buy BMW grips but...
HenryDorsetCase
17th May 2013, 13:56
my bike had them fitted when I bougth it and after years of scoffing after trying them they are AWESOME.
I did have a controller shit itself and the original install was not thru a relay so it stranded me, but definitely love hot grips. If I was buying them the recommendation seems to be for daytona but what evs.
key point is the relay thing so they cannot draw current without the ignition being on.
http://www.motomail.co.nz/estore/style/dyheatedgrip.aspx
Daytona grips (they dont _all_ have a 4 position switch.. mine has 3)
Hitcher
17th May 2013, 14:55
I've had Oxford heated grips on my last three rides. They're magic. I like the built-in gizmo that shuts them off when the bike's voltage drops below 10.5.
CBR4ME
17th May 2013, 15:23
http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/T7GRHN0GH/title/torpedo7-moto-grip-heaters
I have these & they work really well, Switch is cheap but nothing you cant change out,
What ever brand you end up with heated grips are great :niceone:
http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/T7GRHN0GH/title/torpedo7-moto-grip-heaters
I have these & they work really well, Switch is cheap but nothing you cant change out,
What ever brand you end up with heated grips are great :niceone:
wonder if they would work on a seat?
CBR4ME
17th May 2013, 15:37
wonder if they would work on a seat?
I like what your saying :laugh:
Coldrider
17th May 2013, 23:05
13 year old daytonas for me, same pair fitted across 3 different rides.
nzspokes
18th May 2013, 07:23
I had Oxfords on my Bandit. They kept faulting from the start. Was a controller issue. I had started a warranty procedure on them when they just started coming on by themselves. You would turn the switch off and the grips would come on full hot. That was resolved by a car pullout in front of me and destroying my bike.
My new Hornet came with an unkown brand of hot grips but the grips were stuffed. Ive graffted oxford grips onto this system and it works great.
I believe the Oxford controller is over complicated for what it has to do and is prone to faulting. Shame as the grips are nice.
willytheekid
18th May 2013, 09:07
...You would turn the switch off and the grips would come on full hot. That was resolved by a car pullout in front of me and destroying my bike.
:blink:...DAMN!!...I would have just used a craft knife to remove them :yes:
...your friggin hard core mate :laugh:
davebullet
18th May 2013, 09:48
I'd stay away from the sports grip dimpled pattern. Grips wear down fast and I found they got slippery when my gloves were wet. Original swirl type pattern seems to be long lasting.
I'd 2nd that. original grips may not look as cool but they wear better
vifferman
18th May 2013, 18:54
I've had Oxford heated grips on my last three rides. They're magic. I like the built-in gizmo that shuts them off when the bike's voltage drops below 10.5.
In my opinion, that feature is a bloody stupid one. I wired mine to one of the switched outlets on my BlueSea fusebox, so when the key is off, so are the grips. No dropping of the battery voltage below 12.7V or so.
I've got the Oxfords with the solid-state controller; it's OK, but the grips are a bit hard and fat. I liked the previous one with the rotary controller better, which was fitted to the VFR when I bought it, but it carked it after 3 or 6 years.
I used to think heated grips were dumb, unless you lived in a cold place. When I lived in Chch, I rode most days, even twice when it was snowing. No heated grips for me. Then, because the VFR had them fitted, one day when it was only coolish as I was going over the Mamaku Ranges into Rotorua, I switched them on. I was astounded that having warm fingers made all of me feel warm. It's the only time I can distinctly remember an occasion when I've smiled while riding. Weird....
Heated grips are also good when you have shitty gloves, that are supposed to be waterproof but it's fecking bucketing down, and they're slowly getting wet on the wrong side.
Oakie
18th May 2013, 23:05
Oxford heated hand grips? Then first thing I add to any bike I buy.
I always said heated grips were for sissys and fought putting them on my bike for years. Now I have them they would be the first thing fitted to any replacement bike.
Bosses Oxfords crapped themselves last week doing the same as many here, coming on without being switched on causing a flat battery. I always wire mine through a relay so they cannot come on without the ignition being on.
kewwig
19th May 2013, 12:46
I have had 3 sets of Oxfords on various bikes. The last set locked on hot and wouldn't turn off. It wasn't the switch but the other little black box in line "brain". I prised that open and water had got into it and corroded the circuit board. I was surprised as it is under the body work, but suspect water had run down the wire outer past the seals.
Worth putting some self sealing tape around that if water can get to it.
Gorgeousplak
19th May 2013, 14:30
wonder if they would work on a seat?
Or even on the back..
Was also wondering about the heated gloves
PrincessBandit
19th May 2013, 18:54
.... I fitted them myself without fucking too many things up (watch for glue spilling on the paintwork!).
Balu fitted his on the burger and mine on the bandit. He was a tad upset when a glue drip dripped down my fairing, but it didn't bother me unduly; I was just happy to have them fitted!
I've had Oxford heated grips on my last three rides. They're magic. I like the built-in gizmo that shuts them off when the bike's voltage drops below 10.5.
I was always worried about them draining the battery if I forgot to turn them off, but found out unintentionally that they cut out on their own accord once the ignition is off. Whew.
wonder if they would work on a seat?
Haha, the burgman comes with heated seats for rider and pillion in Europe. Pity they haven't made it to NZ :no:
Question for those who's controllers faulted to on all the time. Were your grips wired through a relay or were they direct wired to the battery? Wondering if the switch isn't handling the power supply 24/7 as we have never had an issue with relayed power touch wood.
swbarnett
19th May 2013, 20:20
.... I fitted them myself without fucking too many things up (watch for glue spilling on the paintwork!).
Balu fitted his on the burger and mine on the bandit. He was a tad upset when a glue drip dripped down my fairing, but it didn't bother me unduly; I was just happy to have them fitted!
I never had a problem with the glue when I fitted them on my wife's Hornet. Of course that could be because I didn't use any glue; took over an hour to push them on they were so tight (they're not going anywhere). If I'd used glue they would've only gone 5mm on before it set.
nzspokes
19th May 2013, 21:12
Question for those who's controllers faulted to on all the time. Were your grips wired through a relay or were they direct wired to the battery? Wondering if the switch isn't handling the power supply 24/7 as we have never had an issue with relayed power touch wood.
Mine were relayed.
nzspokes
19th May 2013, 21:14
I never had a problem with the glue when I fitted them on my wife's Hornet. Of course that could be because I didn't use any glue; took over an hour to push them on they were so tight (they're not going anywhere). If I'd used glue they would've only gone 5mm on before it set.
I fitted some Oxfords to my Hornet, just the grips. Glue on the bars, rubber mallet to help fitting. Sorted in a min.
trustme
20th May 2013, 07:31
Have Oxfords fitted to both my Scram & the wife's Bonnie. Both controllers shit themselves at around 18 months , bought another controller but it did not fix either bikes problem.
I'll try the Daytona's
p.dath
20th May 2013, 07:41
I've had the older, less electronic ones. They were great. I have heard many people complain about the newer more electronic models having the electronic component fail.
I prefer the actual grips myself (which replace your current grips), as opposed the the "over grip" version - which fits over your current grips.
born disturbed
20th May 2013, 09:17
I have had a set of Daytonas on my Hylystrung for a few years, 3 modes: Off, On (warm when parked, not when moving) & Start (Read as so frigging hot your skin burns). I had these wired from the battery with 10amp fuse to a 30amp relay which is triggered from the horn circuit (on with ignition only). Grips have lasted well but the element in the rhs has died & I'm absolutely sick to death of burnt hands when running them in the cold/wet (steam burns suck). Time to swap them out for Oxfords I reckon, 4 modes sounds delightful :Punk:
willytheekid
20th May 2013, 11:20
Put mine on the VFR on Sat :niceone: (used an inline 5amp fuse, wired it to a relay, and used the back brake light as the relay trip...and I opnly falttened the battery ONCE thro "playing around":eek:)
First ride with them this morning
...omg! :mellow:
...it just kinda felt wrong?
it was foggy, cold and damp....and yet my hands staying at a "civilised" warm temp?:confused:
...laadeedaaa! did I feel flash :laugh:
Get Some!!....nuff said :yes:
Kendog
20th May 2013, 12:06
This is my first winter riding with the Oxford heated grips.
The only thing that pisses me off is I didn't fit them years ago.
swbarnett
20th May 2013, 12:57
I fitted some Oxfords to my Hornet, just the grips. Glue on the bars, rubber mallet to help fitting. Sorted in a min.
I was intending to do a test fit then take them off and glue them. Tried the mallet to no avail (rudy great sledge hammer wouldn't shift them much). In the end I stuck an F clamp along the bar and squeezed it on mm by mm.
This is the 600 European spec. Maybe the bars are slightly bigger.
willytheekid
20th May 2013, 13:18
I was intending to do a test fit then take them off and glue them. Tried the mallet to no avail (rudy great sledge hammer wouldn't shift them much). In the end I stuck an F clamp along the bar and squeezed it on mm by mm.
This is the 600 European spec. Maybe the bars are slightly bigger.
...did ya try some hair spray?
slofox
20th May 2013, 13:28
The only thing I think heated grips lack is the ability to heat your fingernails - because they face into the wind and the warm bit is on the inside of your fingers, the nail side can still freeze in really frosty conditions. I have been known to tuck a few fingers at a time up so they contact the warm bit.
The only thing I think heated grips lack is the ability to heat your fingernails - because they face into the wind and the warm bit is on the inside of your fingers, the nail side can still freeze in really frosty conditions. I have been known to tuck a few fingers at a time up so they contact the warm bit.
Oh dear god! this thread should be in Biker Angels :laugh:
swbarnett
20th May 2013, 16:29
...did ya try some hair spray?
I thought lubricating the bars would stop the glue sticking.
I thought lubricating the bars would stop the glue sticking.
Not if you use hairspray/lipstick (flavoured) nail polish (any colour) a powder puff and or hair removing wax.... apparently :msn-wink:
Howie
20th May 2013, 18:51
Have had Oxford heated grips on my bike for about 3-4 years. First switch failed in about 3 months due to water getting in. With the replacement I sealed around the back plate, and wiring with silicon sealant and they are still going strong although the Left grip is starting to become a bit worn. I think they are good value and great in the colder months.
willytheekid
20th May 2013, 18:52
I thought lubricating the bars would stop the glue sticking.
Nah, old school way of sticking them on :msn-wink:
The hairspray lubes the grip up to enable an easy fit...then when the alcohol in the hair spray evaporates the sticky hair glue stuff is all that's left, hence it then acts like glue!
...look it up, it works great :niceone:
swbarnett
20th May 2013, 20:24
Nah, old school way of sticking them on :msn-wink:
The hairspray lubes the grip up to enable an easy fit...then when the alcohol in the hair spray evaporates the sticky hair glue stuff is all that's left, hence it then acts like glue!
...look it up, it works great :niceone:
Aha! So the hair spray IS the glue. Clever thinking Batman!
far queue
20th May 2013, 21:41
I've always used Ados F2 contact glue. Slop it on and slide the grip on straight away. It's slimy while it's wet and works as a great lube but won't let go once it's set.
Coldrider
21st May 2013, 20:45
I have had a set of Daytonas on my Hylystrung for a few years, 3 modes: Off, On (warm when parked, not when moving) & Start (Read as so frigging hot your skin burns). I had these wired from the battery with 10amp fuse to a 30amp relay which is triggered from the horn circuit (on with ignition only). Grips have lasted well but the element in the rhs has died & I'm absolutely sick to death of burnt hands when running them in the cold/wet (steam burns suck). Time to swap them out for Oxfords I reckon, 4 modes sounds delightful :Punk:I made a PMW (pulse width modulation circuit), you can get a kit from jaycar, that is variable like a oven simmerstat. Just use off and start and wind the pot up or down for heat control. Needs to be able to handle 6 amps. Another way is to switch some 10Amp diodes in series with the grips to drop the voltage. A bit crude but should work.
born disturbed
22nd May 2013, 12:32
Bloody top idea Koldrider :2thumbsup, I had thought of organising a pot into the setup with basic 2 way switch for power duties. Time to go see if the throttle side grip can be resurrected or I will be buying some Oxfords sooner rather than later.
The only thing I think heated grips lack is the ability to heat your fingernails - because they face into the wind and the warm bit is on the inside of your fingers, the nail side can still freeze in really frosty conditions. I have been known to tuck a few fingers at a time up so they contact the warm bit.
I was thinking about this on the way in this morning.. some kinda glove that has a fairly minimal palm, to let more heat through, and then some way of wicking the warm up around the fingers with some kinda windbreaker in the fingers would be awesome.
ps, why would anyone wire their heated grips directly to the battery? Mine only work if the key is on - thus my battery is safe(ish).
Gremlin
22nd May 2013, 14:25
I was thinking about this on the way in this morning.. some kinda glove that has a fairly minimal palm, to let more heat through, and then some way of wicking the warm up around the fingers with some kinda windbreaker in the fingers would be awesome.
So you haven't heard of heated gloves then? :confused:
Handguards are also brilliant, but not sure they would complete the look of a sportsbike. You lot are so impractical :bleh:
So you haven't heard of heated gloves then? :confused:
I have, but I'm not keen on plugging my hands into anything.. or changing batteries... heh.
Handguards are also brilliant, but not sure they would complete the look of a sportsbike. You lot are so impractical :bleh:
Its called a "fairing" isnt it? (mines not quite big enough, but if I had fibreglassing skills I have an idea on how to change that)
So you haven't heard of heated gloves then? :confused:
Handguards are also brilliant, but not sure they would complete the look of a sportsbike. You lot are so impractical :bleh:
I have "Barkbuster Storm" hand guards on my Z. They work brilliant in conjunction with heated grips and don't look out of place on a naked bike. Mrs Berg also has them on her GSR750.
Valkyrie
2nd June 2013, 22:38
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/shop-by-product/apparel?cat=1317
Waipukbiker
8th June 2013, 21:48
Howdy, My bike had oxford heated grips on it when i brought and they worked fine until it started blowing fuses, Found it had continuity across the 2 battery leads, The fault seems to be in the rear control box because it still did it after i disconnected the loom at the centre plug. just wondering if anyone has a rear section collecting dust that they would be willing to part with.
Cheers
Ross
MarkH
22nd June 2013, 22:37
My new (15 year old, but new to me) bike has hotgrips and I must say - they are rather nice. They are nice and warm even on low (30%) and I suspect warm fingers are safer than cold & numb fingers.
Kendog
6th July 2015, 21:34
This is my first winter riding with the Oxford heated grips.
The only thing that pisses me off is I didn't fit them years ago.
So, first year they worked well.
Second year they started turning off when the handle bar was turned to full lock on one side (checked for tight wiring but that didn't seem to be the problem)
Third year (this year) they have stopped working. The bike was having problems starting and I eventually figured out the grips were coming on with the ignition (but not showing they were on) managed to turn them off while moving the wire from the controller around.
p.dath
7th July 2015, 07:55
So, first year they worked well.
Second year they started turning off when the handle bar was turned to full lock on one side (checked for tight wiring but that didn't seem to be the problem)
Third year (this year) they have stopped working. The bike was having problems starting and I eventually figured out the grips were coming on with the ignition (but not showing they were on) managed to turn them off while moving the wire from the controller around.
If they only turned off at full lock then it must be a wiring issue. If the wiring is not "tight" then perhaps it is getting crimped between something at full lock. Perhaps the insulation has worn thin and it is starting to short. Whatever it is, it will be a wiring issue.
General gripe is that they only keep your palms warm, fingers still get cold etc, if you must go this way, add some hand guards for the best protection.
nzspokes
7th July 2015, 08:48
General gripe is that they only keep your palms warm, fingers still get cold etc, if you must go this way, add some hand guards for the best protection.
They keep my fingers warm just fine.
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I know of four people who use heated grips and all have said the same , that they (heated grips) feel good but don't warm the whole of your hands, it's the placebo effect where, because you have heated grips, your hands must be warm.
Mike.Gayner
7th July 2015, 11:03
I know of four people who use heated grips and all have said the same , that they (heated grips) feel good but don't warm the whole of your hands, it's the placebo effect where, because you have heated grips, your hands must be warm.
That is perhaps the most retarded thing I have ever read on KB. My toasty hands are a result of the placebo effect? Hot grips work great - they're not magic and obviously your finger tips can still get cold, but they allow me to use my summer gloves pretty much year round.
They keep my fingers warm just fine.
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Yep, easily the conclusion for the majority.
Great investment :niceone:
That is perhaps the most retarded thing I have ever read on KB. My toasty hands are a result of the placebo effect? Hot grips work great - they're not magic and obviously your finger tips can still get cold, but they allow me to use my summer gloves pretty much year round.
I wear summer gloves all year round without girly grips, I stand by the placebo effect comment because of what those who have girly grips, have said about them.
''they're not magic and obviously your finger tips can still get cold'' different wording but what I said about them. :motu:
Hands in gloves get cold because of wind chill, eliminating that factor out of the equation cannot be done by heated grips alone.
I wear summer gloves all year round without girly grips, I stand by the placebo effect comment because of what those who have girly grips, have said about them.
''they're not magic and obviously your finger tips can still get cold'' different wording but what I said about them. :motu:
Hands in gloves get cold because of wind chill, eliminating that factor out of the equation cannot be done by heated grips alone.
You also have said you don't leave home on your bike if it's raining, so it would it be 'fair' to say you're never riding in anything as cold as people who suit up and go no matter the weather perhaps...?
Would certainly take the word of an open road year round commuter over someone who only rides on nice weekends but talks themselves up on what gear works best in cold temperature.
Congrats on filling another useful thread with opinionated bullshit btw. Yay for KB.
Doppleganger
7th July 2015, 12:10
Commute every day on the bike winter and summer, have heated grips and use summer gloves, dont get cold hands.
Cant have the grips on the hottest setting for very long because my hands get too hot!
Extremely evident that some who use heated grips are uptight/very protective and over reactive with little or no argument at all, just bla bla.
p.dath
7th July 2015, 12:44
They keep my fingers warm just fine. ..
I haven't had heated grips for a while, but they always kept my whole hands warm. The whole grip is heated, and you fingers wrap around the grip - so why wouldn't they keep your hands and fingers warm.
Extremely evident that some who use heated grips are uptight/very protective and over reactive with little or no argument at all, just bla bla.
:laugh: You complain about non biking content on here and have said yourself you don't even ride in bad weather and here you are bleating to people who are contributing some good info for others saying they are pussies for wanting to use heated grips on their bikes, and then trying to say they don't even work.
For the record I don't even have them on my new bike yet, but fucked if I think I am better than someone because they like to be warm.
Is it placebo effect that when I get on my bike it moves me because I think it is going to move me? The fuck are you smoking? Each to their own man.
pritch
7th July 2015, 13:05
So, first year they worked well.
Second year they started turning off when the handle bar was turned to full lock on one side (checked for tight wiring but that didn't seem to be the problem)
Third year (this year) they have stopped working. The bike was having problems starting and I eventually figured out the grips were coming on with the ignition (but not showing they were on) managed to turn them off while moving the wire from the controller around.
The last set I had started coming on by themselves and couldn't be turned off except by disconnecting the battery. The switch was replaced under warranty but when I went to pick the bike up, the grips were warm and the battery was flat. Into the bin they went.
Heated grips can be great but after my experience with Oxford grips on two bikes I would consider heated grips as long as they were not made by Oxford.
Sorry, I now see this is an old thread and I already commented on p1. At least I don't seemed to have changed my mind.
:laugh: You complain about non biking content on here and have said yourself you don't even ride in bad weather and here you are bleating to people who are contributing some good info for others they are pussies for wanting to use heated grips on their bikes!
For the record I don't even have them on my new bike yet, but fucked if I think I am better than someone because they like to be warm.
Is it placebo effect that when I get on my bike it moves me because I think it is going to move me? The fuck are you smoking?
I have never said that I don't ride in bad weather, I have said that if it's shit weather I would not gear up and go for a ride, please be a little more factual when quoting what I say. And where have I used the the term pussies in regards to this subject?
The second and third sentence's don't even get a reply.
You should stick to the off road forums instead of continually quoting me with your own 'opinionated bullshit'.
Heated grips are obviously fine for some of those who use them, not all....fact.
Stirts
7th July 2015, 13:14
Heated grips can be great but after my experience with Oxford grips on two bikes I would consider heated grips as long as they were not made by Oxford.
+1 on that!! I love heated grips but 3 different bikes, each with Oxford grips, and each fucked out. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks Oxford made them to fuck out after a year :shifty:
Gremlin
7th July 2015, 13:15
Extremely evident that some who use heated grips are uptight/very protective and over reactive with little or no argument at all, just bla bla.
Well to be fair, it sounds like you're the opposite, don't have them, don't use them, but commenting on them?
Both bikes have them, Hornet has Oxford, but it's all city work, they work good. BMW has factory fitted plus handguards, they work good as well. Sub zero I prefer to add a heated vest as well, grips only do so much.
Well to be fair, it sounds like you're the opposite, don't have them, don't use them, but commenting on them?
Both bikes have them, Hornet has Oxford, but it's all city work, they work good. BMW has factory fitted plus handguards, they work good as well. Sub zero I prefer to add a heated vest as well, grips only do so much.
I don't own and never will own a Ducati, does that mean I cannot comment on them?
''grips only do so much'' and ''they're not magic and obviously your finger tips can still get cold'' is what I have been saying :corn:
My first post today ''General gripe is that they only keep your palms warm, fingers still get cold etc, if you must go this way, add some hand guards for the best protection.''
You pro heat grip guys need to 'chill' a tad... see what I did there?
Katman
7th July 2015, 13:57
That is perhaps the most retarded thing I have ever read on KB.
Really?
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/search.php?searchid=10325101
Enjoy.
Gremlin
7th July 2015, 14:12
I don't own and never will own a Ducati, does that mean I cannot comment on them?
...
You pro heat grip guys need to 'chill' a tad... see what I did there?
Nope... I'm toasty warm aren't I? :bleh:
Well, re Ducati, unless you have first hand knowledge (Ok, include friends experiences), you can't really provide more than an opinion?
James Deuce
7th July 2015, 14:24
Heated grips make my hands tingle and go numb. I don't like them.
Nope... I'm toasty warm aren't I? :bleh:
Well, re Ducati, unless you have first hand knowledge (Ok, include friends experiences), you can't really provide more than an opinion?
I believe that I provided my opinion, but included the thoughts of friends who have them, in that opinion. Never stated as fact as some would suggest.
I bought some for Anne and I suppose even she would disagree with my opinion about them.
For the THIRD and final time...my opinion on heated grips is...
''That they only keep your palms warm, fingers still get cold etc, if you must go this way, add some hand guards for the best protection.''
Doppleganger
7th July 2015, 14:53
I believe that I provided my opinion, but included the thoughts of friends who have them, in that opinion. Never stated as fact as some would suggest.
I bought some for Anne and I suppose even she would disagree with my opinion about them.
For the THIRD and final time...my opinion on heated grips is...
''That they only keep your palms warm, fingers still get cold etc, if you must go this way, add some hand guards for the best protection.''
Getting a little hot under the collar?
p.s see what I did there ;)
The one with the broom?
If you are a female, yeah get some, I got some for my wife.
General gripe is that they only keep your palms warm, fingers still get cold etc, if you must go this way, add some hand guards for the best protection.
Oh dear god! this thread should be in Biker Angels :laugh:
Not if you use hairspray/lipstick (flavoured) nail polish (any colour) a powder puff and or hair removing wax.... apparently :msn-wink:
I know of four people who use heated grips and all have said the same , that they (heated grips) feel good but don't warm the whole of your hands, it's the placebo effect where, because you have heated grips, your hands must be warm.
I wear summer gloves all year round without girly grips, I stand by the placebo effect comment because of what those who have girly grips, have said about them.
''they're not magic and obviously your finger tips can still get cold'' different wording but what I said about them. :motu:
Hands in gloves get cold because of wind chill, eliminating that factor out of the equation cannot be done by heated grips alone.
I have never said that I don't ride in bad weather, I have said that if it's shit weather I would not gear up and go for a ride, please be a little more factual when quoting what I say. And where have I used the the term pussies in regards to this subject?
The second and third sentence's don't even get a reply.
You should stick to the off road forums instead of continually quoting me with your own 'opinionated bullshit'.
Heated grips are obviously fine for some of those who use them, not all....fact.
I don't own and never will own a Ducati, does that mean I cannot comment on them?
''grips only do so much'' and ''they're not magic and obviously your finger tips can still get cold'' is what I have been saying :corn:
My first post today ''General gripe is that they only keep your palms warm, fingers still get cold etc, if you must go this way, add some hand guards for the best protection.''
You pro heat grip guys need to 'chill' a tad... see what I did there?
Man I wonder if this guy likes heated grips. If only he would post some more about them.
'girly grips'
I used a different word, you got me, you were clearly implying something completely different.
Not going out when the weather is bad yet waffling to make out you're some sort of hardcore assless chaps wearing biker to people who like to use something you don't, I got that all wrong as well.
If I have to see your threads trying to be high and mighty while whinging like a kid regarding site content I'm going to call you out on filling threads with the exact thing you complain about, crap. Plus I'm out of coffee.
:yawn:
Fill ya boots, and thanks for taking the time in a sad attempt to justify your limp ravings.
Heated grips make my hands tingle and go numb. I don't like them.
How dare you have an opinion on heated grips, you'll upset the children, when does school go back?
Paul in NZ
7th July 2015, 15:46
I'm a type 1 diabetic. Despite having good control my nerves, especially at the extremities gradually suffer and I have found I cant tolerate the cold now in them (and feet) anything like I could even 10 years ago... Heated grips help. Yes - hand guards also help but at the moment heated grips are enough.
Having warmth in my hands allows me to feel I have better control over the throttle and braking and makes me more confident. So - IMHO Heated grips are very good. Besides, If they were not good - they would not sell as many of them as they do...
ps - the old Oxford ones last about a year. The latest ones look a LOT better quality and design wise. They should last longer.
Fill ya boots, and thanks for taking the time in a sad attempt to justify your limp ravings.
Chin up. When do you start your heated grips blog? Can't wait.
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OddDuck
7th July 2015, 16:02
I remember coming back from a fairly decent ride (Wellington - Castlepoint) and having the weather turn to a southerly halfway back. Strong winds, sleet, 2 hours riding to get home... winter gloves and all, by the time I got back I could hardly work the clutch / brakes / switchgear. Arms were numb from the elbow down. Never again.
I've got the latest generation Oxfords on the Ducati and can't imagine life without them, they're awesome. Am wintering on the bike while working on the car, ride no matter what the weather. Got to have them to know.
:baby:
How many guys do you actually stalk on here? It's stating to rank up there with hair pulling...creepy.
MarkH
7th July 2015, 16:46
The last set I had started coming on by themselves and couldn't be turned off except by disconnecting the battery. The switch was replaced under warranty but when I went to pick the bike up, the grips were warm and the battery was flat. Into the bin they went.
That is a messed up install!
There should be no power to the grips when you turn the key off, otherwise you invite the situation of accidentally leaving the grips on when you turn the bike off and flattening the battery.
I have Oxford grips on both my bikes and had them on 2 previous bikes, both current bikes have grips turn off when bike is off, 1 previous bike had grips that stayed on when the key was off so I got a relay in there that ONLY fed power to the grips when the key was on.
My view on heated grips: some riders may be OK using the grips with summer gloves but I personally would still do the sane thing and wear winter gloves, I feel that I would otherwise have warm fronts of hands/fingers but cold backs of hands/fingers. I actually go with winter gloves, rain-off overgloves (to block the wind) and hot grips, this is for going to work at 3am when it is -2° Celsius. I ride 350km per week for 52 weeks (minus holidays) each year, regardless of weather - I wouldn't be without heated grips.
Look at moi! Look at moi!
Is stalking where you follow people around thread to thread positing shit about how much you love goats?
Remind me, was that before or after you had a melt down about the lack of good content on here.
If so (considering it took me 30 seconds and I didn't have to leave this thread to find all your crap above) the way I read it:
Maha and his goats - 1
Tazz - 0
You're a grown man right? :wacko:
Anyway, your nut job self can have the last word here and once again tell us all how much you love to not use heated grips, in a heated grips thread, in case someone missed your cry for attention by not caring the first time you said it and called them names ;)
Kendog
7th July 2015, 19:33
So assuming I am going to replace my older Oxford heated grips, should I go with the newer Oxford model?
I can't seem to find many other options...
nzspokes
7th July 2015, 19:41
So assuming I am going to replace my older Oxford heated grips, should I go with the newer Oxford model?
I can't seem to find many other options...
I have Daytonas on the Bandit. Seem good and reliable. Kept my hands warm tonight in the rain and cold tonight.
Older Oxfords had a fault in the control box that went under the tank. They corrode. I have the new ones on my Hawk and they seem to be lasting well.
Guess your fingers could get cold if you are a Girly rider that rides with fingers covering the levers.
swbarnett
7th July 2015, 22:14
I haven't had heated grips for a while, but they always kept my whole hands warm. The whole grip is heated, and you fingers wrap around the grip - so why wouldn't they keep your hands and fingers warm.
Ever sat by a bonfire on a cold night? One side toasty and the other freezing. Same effect.
My wife is one of the people Maha is talking about. Her fingers were toasty on the inside and cold on the outside. And she doesn't cover the levers. She's got hand guards on here current bike. We may well add heated grips at some stage.
FJRider
7th July 2015, 23:04
Ever sat by a bonfire on a cold night? One side toasty and the other freezing. Same effect.
Stand still and you freeze ... only the lazy and stupid will ... ;)
My wife is one of the people Maha is talking about. Her fingers were toasty on the inside and cold on the outside. And she doesn't cover the levers. She's got hand guards on here current bike. We may well add heated grips at some stage.
I have never had heated grips on any motorcycle I've ever owned. Good quality gloves are cheaper and more reliable than any electrical aid you can install.
nzspokes
7th July 2015, 23:15
Ever sat by a bonfire on a cold night? One side toasty and the other freezing. Same effect.
My wife is one of the people Maha is talking about. Her fingers were toasty on the inside and cold on the outside. And she doesn't cover the levers. She's got hand guards on here current bike. We may well add heated grips at some stage.
Captain Obvious strikes again.
swbarnett
7th July 2015, 23:35
I have never had heated grips on any motorcycle I've ever owned. Good quality gloves are cheaper and more reliable than any electrical aid you can install.
Agreed. I've never had them either for the same reason.
swbarnett
7th July 2015, 23:38
Captain Obvious strikes again.
I thought the answer was obvious. Obviously at least one person didn't.
Those like yourself that don't get cold on the front of the fingers probably have better circulation than those that do.
nerrrd
7th July 2015, 23:56
Good quality gloves are cheaper and more reliable than any electrical aid you can install.
Cheaper than good quality gloves? Not sure where you'd get those for around $120, which is what the grips cost I think (minus installation admittedly for those of us non DIY types).
I've never owned a pair of gloves that were either waterproof and or actually warm on a decent cold ride, despite manufacturers claims to the contrary, even with thermal gloves underneath - unless you're talking over-gloves like rain-offs, which, although effective, are bloody awkward.
Girly grips and guards do it for me.
nzspokes
8th July 2015, 06:53
I thought the answer was obvious. Obviously at least one person didn't.
Those like yourself that don't get cold on the front of the fingers probably have better circulation than those that do.
I tend to wear gloves while riding so no front of my fingers dont get cold.:facepalm:
Mike.Gayner
8th July 2015, 06:58
Interesting that it's the people who haven't used hot grips who have the strongest opinions on them.
Ever sat by a bonfire on a cold night? One side toasty and the other freezing. Same effect.
Some would argue that if you stand in front of a bonfire on a cold night, you are warm all over, yet they will still rotate intimately using the excuse they're too hot :eek:
Paul in NZ
8th July 2015, 08:41
This whole threat is a waste of space... Heated grips are great if you struggle to keep your hands warm and most folks I know that use them also run decent winter gloves. If you don't feel the cold in your hands - good for you, don't buy them.
Girly grips and guards do it for me.
The best combo. Anne had them on her bandit, I rode it a few times and was underwhelmed, ended up turning them off.
swbarnett
8th July 2015, 11:56
I tend to wear gloves while riding so no front of my fingers dont get cold.:facepalm:
As do my wife and I. Our fingers still get cold. With or without heated grips.
I have no idea where you got he impression that I rode gloveless?
OddDuck
8th July 2015, 11:58
So assuming I am going to replace my older Oxford heated grips, should I go with the newer Oxford model?
I can't seem to find many other options...
I've installed the newer type. This one goes straight onto the battery terminals and monitors the charging so when you shut the bike down, the grips give it 30 sec or so and turn themselves off. No fussing around with relay boxes or ignition switch wiring, it's quite a nice feature.
swbarnett
8th July 2015, 11:59
Interesting that it's the people who haven't used hot grips who have the strongest opinions on them.
I think you'll find we have used them. Perhaps not on our own bike. Like Maha I was underwhelmed.
Obviously they work for some but not all. As i said earlier, it may be a difference in circulation.
nzspokes
8th July 2015, 17:50
I've installed the newer type. This one goes straight onto the battery terminals and monitors the charging so when you shut the bike down, the grips give it 30 sec or so and turn themselves off. No fussing around with relay boxes or ignition switch wiring, it's quite a nice feature.
Yeah that works well.
FJRider
8th July 2015, 18:27
Cheaper than good quality gloves? Not sure where you'd get those for around $120, which is what the grips cost I think (minus installation admittedly for those of us non DIY types).
The gloves I wear cost me $85 a pair ... and the same price for the last three times I've replace them. I get three years riding from a pair before they need replacing. (then I give them to JAFFA riders to upgrade their gear)
I've attended 18 Brass Monkey rallys ... about half of those with temps riding (to or from) in sub zero temperatures. Minus 5 C is common. Once ... I left the site with a minus 10 temperature for the 45 minute ride home.
I've never owned a pair of gloves that were either waterproof and or actually warm on a decent cold ride, despite manufacturers claims to the contrary, even with thermal gloves underneath - unless you're talking over-gloves like rain-offs, which, although effective, are bloody awkward.
Girly grips and guards do it for me.
Heated grips have never made them waterproof. But as you live in Auckland ... Motorcycle shops probably don't actually sell real winter gloves.
As for riding in the rain .. I often carry 3 or 4 old pairs for when it stops raining ... or the cold starts to get in.
The gloves I wear cost me $85 a pair ... and the same price for the last three times I've replace them. I get three years riding from a pair before they need replacing. (then I give them to JAFFA riders to upgrade their gear)
I've attended 18 Brass Monkey rallys ... about half of those with temps riding (to or from) in sub zero temperatures. Minus 5 C is common. Once ... I left the site with a minus 10 temperature for the 45 minute ride home.
Heated grips have never made them waterproof. But as you live in Auckland ... Motorcycle shops probably don't actually sell real winter gloves.
As for riding in the rain .. I often carry 3 or 4 old pairs for when it stops raining ... or the cold starts to get in.
''then I give them to JAFFA riders to upgrade their gear'' when you're done with the long-john send em' up :rolleyes:
I bought some winter gloves recently, I think they cost $299? started off on ride at Queens Birthday weekend, dry but bitter. Changed back to my summer gloves at our first stop, the temps here in CNI at the moment are close to what you get down there 1° at present and supposedly dropping to -4°.
nzspokes
8th July 2015, 19:07
The gloves I wear cost me $85 a pair ... and the same price for the last three times I've replace them. I get three years riding from a pair before they need replacing. (then I give them to JAFFA riders to upgrade their gear)
I've attended 18 Brass Monkey rallys ... about half of those with temps riding (to or from) in sub zero temperatures. Minus 5 C is common. Once ... I left the site with a minus 10 temperature for the 45 minute ride home.
Heated grips have never made them waterproof. But as you live in Auckland ... Motorcycle shops probably don't actually sell real winter gloves.
As for riding in the rain .. I often carry 3 or 4 old pairs for when it stops raining ... or the cold starts to get in.
Dont you ride a faired bike with clip ons? Wouldnt be much wind on your hands anyway.
FJRider
8th July 2015, 19:24
Dont you ride a faired bike with clip ons? Wouldnt be much wind on your hands anyway.
I rode a GS1000S that the Bikini fairing dumped all the cold air and rain on my hands. Same gloves. Just changed more regulary. I also rode an unfaired GS1000E for a while (same gloves) with no real issues. The FJ has a good fairing that diverts a lot of shit off the gloves (and body).
I rode home tonight wearing my winter Spidi gloves and Rain-offs with my Polly heaters on. Got home and had a nice warm drink...wrapping my hands around the mug to warm them up, bliss. Heated grips or bars are supposed to work like that....but I'm not doing 104kph into a headwind in the lounge.
nerrrd
8th July 2015, 21:40
The gloves I wear cost me $85 a pair ... and the same price for the last three times I've replace them. I get three years riding from a pair before they need replacing. (then I give them to JAFFA riders to upgrade their gear)
Brand and supplier please, not too keen on sloppy seconds.
Heated grips have never made them waterproof. But as you live in Auckland ... Motorcycle shops probably don't actually sell real winter gloves.
No but the guards help slow the wetting process down, and when they are finally wet through, the girly grips at least keep them warm.
Admittedly my personal glove testing program hasn't exactly been exhaustive...like I can count the pairs on the fingers of one hand (that's four btw for you rural types...or mebbe that varies out your way? Yeehah! ).
For real cold mornings I'm using leather ski mittens with thermal lining - $32 from Torpedo7, warmer than any winter motorcycle glove I've used.
FJRider
9th July 2015, 17:36
Brand and supplier please, not too keen on sloppy seconds.
DRIRIDER Thinsulate
Take a peek here ... an Aussie site I think ...
https://au.storeslider.com/dririder-thinsulate-3m-kevlar-insert-motorcycle-gloves-size-231568971250e.html
No but the guards help slow the wetting process down, and when they are finally wet through, the girly grips at least keep them warm.
I have been known to use bread bags ... held in place with rubber bands to slow the wetting process. (to slow ... being the operative words)
The West Coast of the south island is reknown for rain ... (must be on account of all the rain forests there :rolleyes:) so I get a fair bit of rain experience ...
Admittedly my personal glove testing program hasn't exactly been exhaustive...like I can count the pairs on the fingers of one hand (that's four btw for you rural types...or mebbe that varies out your way? Yeehah! ).
There are one or two down Oamaru way ... that can count higher ... ;)
BMWST?
9th July 2015, 22:22
heated grips with some kind of wind break.The best combination was a BMW k 100 rs with bmw grips,and the mirrors kept the bulk of the wind of the hands.I kinda felt like i could feel the warmth seeping back through the arms.Twas awesome,would not be without heated grips now
nerrrd
10th July 2015, 07:42
DRIRIDER Thinsulate
Take a peek here ... an Aussie site I think ...
https://au.storeslider.com/dririder-thinsulate-3m-kevlar-insert-motorcycle-gloves-size-231568971250e.html
Cheers, I'll look into those.
FJRider
10th July 2015, 17:26
The best combination was a BMW k 100 rs with bmw grips,and the mirrors kept the bulk of the wind of the hands.I kinda felt like i could feel the warmth seeping back through the arms.Twas awesome,would not be without heated grips now
The Honda ST1100 was also pretty good for having the mirrors "Guarding" the gloves ...
GrayWolf
20th September 2015, 23:06
I have a set of the 'handlebar mitts' for serious distance in cold or rain conditions, along with heated bar grips, you just cant go wrong. Last lot I bought were around $50
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