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Newo
23rd May 2013, 21:36
Alright so basically I'm just fishing to see what interest may or may not be of there.

In my garage I have an '88 cbr250. Sitting in pieces and very un-loved. I'm trying to decide if I want to use it as a track bike or just get rid of it. So what I'm looking for is to see if there is anybody out there with an interest in working on bikes and who has the knowledge but no money to fuel their interest. Somebody who is willing to do it for free because to be blunt, I can barely feed myself. And somebody who doesn't mind that it won't have all the fancy parts because I don't want to spend much on it.

Yes I'm completely aware of what I'm asking for and no my expectations aren't high.

I live in west Auckland and have a garage to work out of as well. There is no time frame on this either, it's purely for fun and because I'd like to race but don't have the mechanical knowledge.

Hope this is in the right place and ill just keep my eyes open.

Owen.

hayd3n
23rd May 2013, 21:46
how many pieces?? is it requiring parts???

nzspokes
23rd May 2013, 22:04
So you want somebody to rebuild your bike for free?

Good luck with that.

F5 Dave
23rd May 2013, 22:18
I've been feeling a bit horny lately but I can't really be arsed with all that pulling carry on and was wondering if someone would log onto some Pervy sites & give me a shandy while clicking all the best links at the same time ideally using their credit card as I'm saving for a night on the prozzies.

Newo
23rd May 2013, 23:29
It's actually not in that many pieces. I stripped the fairings and tank to paint. Parts required are minimal. Engine itself is fully intact but has been sitting for over a year. In terms of converting to a track bike I'd say more stripping is involved rather than assembling. I'm no expert though.

Also it's not about trying to get a free rebuild. I'd hope that who ever gets involved takes an interest in racing and would like to play an active part in setting it up and maybe even racing it as well.

Oh and I thought it went without saying.. I'm more than happy to get my hands dirty, I just don't know what I'm doing. More than happy to put the effort in should I decide to make something of it.

willytheekid
24th May 2013, 09:45
http://funnyasduck.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/funny-mechanic-said-blew-seal-laughing-pun-joke-pics.jpg
:killingme...:mellow:...Sorry!:o...do carry on :D

F5 Dave
24th May 2013, 10:34
Anyway can we get back to talking about Buckets as this is a bucket thread.


Buckets have two engine capacity classes:
F4
2 stroke 55-100cc
2 stroke 55-125cc air cooled
4 stroke 55-150cc
F5
2 stroke 0-50cc
4 stroke 0-100cc air cooled

Newo
24th May 2013, 15:53
Ok well to be honest I haven't looked into what classes this bike would be eligible for, so based on that information I'm assuming this was the wrong place to post this?

My understanding of buckets was wrong. I didn't realise that the engine capacity of a 250 was too high.

Akzle
24th May 2013, 17:33
Ok well to be honest I haven't looked into what classes this bike would be eligible for, so based on that information I'm assuming this was the wrong place to post this?

My understanding of buckets was wrong. I didn't realise that the engine capacity of a 250 was too high.

oh fucking deer. :facepalm:

well, i'm up for it. but you have to pay me in booze and dope for the time spent working on it. and you'd be surprised how much booze and dope i can injest while playing with motorbikes.

Madness
24th May 2013, 17:47
oh fucking deer. :facepalm:

well, i'm up for it. but you have to pay me in booze and dope for the time spent working on it. and you'd be surprised how much booze and dope i can injest while playing with motorbikes.

I never knew '88 CBR250 parts were interchangeable with '89 GSX750s.

Akzle
24th May 2013, 18:21
I never knew '88 CBR250 parts were interchangeable with '89 GSX750s.

youd be surprised what you can achieve with a fat blunt and a 9" angle grinder.

Icemaestro
24th May 2013, 20:20
Where abouts out west are you? I'm looking at starting a road going track bike project in June. Haven't done too much on the cbr - had an mc22 that I can clean carbs, brake calipers, and a 600 that I built...don't know anything about racing though!! I like playing with bikes though!

avgas
24th May 2013, 21:57
If there are any aspiring artists out there. I need someone to paint my roof.

Also have work for aspiring carpenters.

Will pay you 1 peso a year.

Newo
28th May 2013, 21:27
Alright, to those of you taking the piss, it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I will say this though.

If I had the knowledge and time to share, knowing that I was helping grow the sport by getting more people involved. I would definitely help where I could. So if you have neither thats fine.

Even if nothing else, all that I achieve through this is being pointed in the right direction, then I will have achieved what I set out to do. If it becomes apparent that this sport is only for those with deep pockets then ill just sell the bike as I had planned to from the beginning and it's of no loss to me, except for the potential enjoyment I may have gained through trying.

That's pretty much all I have to say about that.

Oh and Icemaestro, I sent you a pm with that information.

jasonu
29th May 2013, 01:27
Alright, to those of you taking the piss, it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I will say this though.

If I had the knowledge and time to share, knowing that I was helping grow the sport by getting more people involved. I would definitely help where I could. So if you have neither thats fine.

Even if nothing else, all that I achieve through this is being pointed in the right direction, then I will have achieved what I set out to do. If it becomes apparent that this sport is only for those with deep pockets then ill just sell the bike as I had planned to from the beginning and it's of no loss to me, except for the potential enjoyment I may have gained through trying.

That's pretty much all I have to say about that.

Oh and Icemaestro, I sent you a pm with that information.

Mate you are not growing anything. Buy a tennis racquet and join a local club, it will be cheaper in the long run.

ducatilover
29th May 2013, 09:23
I'd help out if I was in the area :niceone:

F5 Dave
29th May 2013, 10:12
Alright, to those of you taking the piss, it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I will say this though.

If I had the knowledge and time to share, knowing that I was helping grow the sport by getting more people involved. I would definitely help where I could. So if you have neither thats fine.

Even if nothing else, all that I achieve through this is being pointed in the right direction, then I will have achieved what I set out to do. If it becomes apparent that this sport is only for those with deep pockets then ill just sell the bike as I had planned to from the beginning and it's of no loss to me, except for the potential enjoyment I may have gained through trying.

That's pretty much all I have to say about that.

Oh and Icemaestro, I sent you a pm with that information.

of course we took the piss. You come on here saying you wouldn't mind racing your 250 (despite being in the bucket section) & say you can hardly afford to feed yourself, can someone help me for free.

OK some quick research:
Typical big bike raceday $90 entry +$35 transponder
MNZ licence $100 for club, ($200 for national)
Back protector, Onepiece leathers, helmet less than 5yrs old unscuffed (insert $ amount)

http://clatl.com/binary/a7a4/retro_tennis2_02.jpg

quallman1234
29th May 2013, 11:03
I did something similar to this request of this thread. For a friend.
Every fork in the road he chose the wrong way. He would of had the thing ready in a weekend if he had listened to me.
I ended up spending hours and hours sorting him out with nice engine brackets and converting wheels and basically sorting out a completely fucked frame. Everytime he came over to work on it he was a little bitch and wanted to go home after 10 minutes.
I should of given up much earlier.

Anyway now he wants to sell it, because he brought a piece of shit 1987 carb'd 4L 6 cylinder ford ute, and can't afford the thing.
Pretty much put me off helping anyone ever again.

So the point i'm making is, you better be fucken passionate about it, before starting a project. Before you waste someone else's time, and never complete the thing. It won't be easy and it will be very time consuming. If you have any doubts or your a Starter and not a finisher. Dont even bother. Save up and buy a bike ready to race.

F5 Dave
29th May 2013, 11:42
you gave your time & effort for a finished goal of helping a friend get on the racetrack to race. Not for his financial betterment.


Amount of bikes I've helped with or given parts for that never seen the racetrack. I try & concentrate on people who are already there & proper keen.

quallman1234
29th May 2013, 11:50
you gave your time & effort for a finished goal of helping a friend get on the racetrack to race. Not for his financial betterment.


Amount of bikes I've helped with or given parts for that never seen the racetrack. I try & concentrate on people who are already there & proper keen.

In fairness, he's going to loose money, and i'm going to force him to paint my car for me (he's already agreed but that might me fuck all). So its not as terrible as it sounds. But i'm certainly still fucked off. I'd rather see him out on the track than my car painted.

Pumba
29th May 2013, 12:00
This thread has real potential.

Please all keep sharing your thoughts.

Newo
29th May 2013, 12:15
Yes, admitadly I didn't realise buckets were only referring to those lower cc bikes, and I also exadurated the point about barely being able to feed myself. I wouldn't have a bike in the first place if I couldn't survive day to day living costs. What I was meaning is I can't afford to be just throwing lots of money at it when there's the possibility of trying to get things done myself.

I accept that there are un avoidable costs as you mentioned above. Including things like tyres and petrol. I'm willing to put money towards stuff like that obviously, i just can't come up with it at the snap of a finger and will have to save for things like that.

I already have a fair bit of riding gear as well.

I had already decided long ago that I'm going to get into racing bikes, it was just a matter of finding the right time when I'm not so committed with other things and am in a position to support it financially. Seeing as I happen to have a spare bike right now I figured I might be able to make use of it.

Maybe what I need to be doing is selling it and buying a lower cc bike. I'm not sure because to be honest, I don't really know where the best starting point is to get into racing. I'm just trying to make use of what I already have.

F5 Dave
29th May 2013, 14:41
ok well lets start again, I'm warming to you a little as you write legibly, which is often uncommon on these threads.

Trundle along to a AMCC bucket meeting at Mt wgtn & have a look to see if it is for you. It is the cheapest common motorsport. Meeting dates are usually posted in this section.

If so, clean up what you have & TM it & find a racebike.

Henk
29th May 2013, 16:54
ok well lets start again, I'm warming to you a little as you write legibly, which is often uncommon on these threads.

Trundle along to a AMCC bucket meeting at Mt wgtn & have a look to see if it is for you. It is the cheapest common motorsport. Meeting dates are usually posted in this section.

If so, clean up what you have & TM it & find a racebike.

I'm also in both Kyle's camp and Dave's now. Have "helped" a lot of people where help means "you do it for me and I'll watch and then lose interest" and am starting to warm.

If you want to go racing and budget is an issue I'd definitely suggest buckets, especially given where you are and the bike you are looking at converting. 250 four would work if the Vic club was your local, not so much being in Auckland. If you want to have a look at buckets turn up next weekend at Mt Wellington. I'll be there in a big shit old white transit van, if you turn up on Saturday with riding gear you might even get a wobble around the track if you can convince me you aren't going to wreck my bike in such a way that I wouldn't be on track on Sunday.

Buckets4Me
29th May 2013, 20:24
Turn up at the track and go from there. you can ask question and look at lots of bikes. will give you an idea of where to go from there

carburator
29th May 2013, 21:22
there is getting advice and pointers and you will be away..

Ive seen a lot of people over time throw a shit load of money at crap only still to have crap. ( just costly )
best thing to do is not repeat other peoples mistakes..

John_H
29th May 2013, 21:51
Sell it and buy quallman (Kyle's) well sorted bucket, much cheaper faster way to get into racing.

quallman1234
30th May 2013, 12:27
Before i rip into you.

My suggestion, Sell your spare bike. For hopefully 500 - 600 (maybe with a running engine? and possibly rego on hold?). Save a few hundred and keep your eye out for bikes on.
Its the logical thing to do if your not mechanically able.

Head along to the track in the mean time and ask/beg to hire or borrow a bucket. To get a sense of it.

Newo
30th May 2013, 22:52
Ok please forgive me for asking, I have looked and searched.

As far as I can see, the next meeting is 19/20 July. Am I correct? Or are there more regular meets that I can't find times or dates for?

As long as I haven't got anything that coincides with the date and time, I'll be there.

Thank you for giving this a second look and not dismissing me at face value. Sometimes the way I come across and the way I go about doing things does not convey my intentions well. I think the discussion as per the original post I made needs no further attention at this stage. I'll attend some bucket meets and assess where I want to be from there.

Moooools
30th May 2013, 23:00
Ok please forgive me for asking, I have looked and searched.

As far as I can see, the next meeting is 19/20 July. Am I correct?

Nope. June 8th and 9th.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/77300-AMCC-bucket-calendar?p=1130433947#post1130433947

Henk
30th May 2013, 23:30
Nope. June 8th and 9th.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/77300-AMCC-bucket-calendar?p=1130433947#post1130433947

What he said, redundant post I know but Thursday, day off Friday and been at the beer.

Newo
31st May 2013, 22:14
Ah, thanks.

I knew I should have checked more than just the first and last page. I looked at the dates of each post and just assumed that they couldn't have been posted before the new year. My mistake.