Lane hogging

[Mort]

There's been a law change in the Uk which should seriously be considered here too. Without doubt some of the worst lane discipline is to be found here. I'm too not sure what the law is here but habitually driving in the outside lane should be dealt with...


http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-news/middle-lane-hogs-face-100-fine/22840.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/10099636/100-fine-for-motorists-who-hog-the-middle-lane.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22770064

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/jun/05/aa-fines-middle-lane-hoggers-video

[oneofsix]

There's been a law change in the Uk which should seriously be considered here too. Without doubt some of the worst lane discipline is to be found here. I'm too not sure what the law is here but habitually driving in the outside lane should be dealt with...


http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-news/middle-lane-hogs-face-100-fine/22840.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/10099636/100-fine-for-motorists-who-hog-the-middle-lane.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22770064

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/jun/05/aa-fines-middle-lane-hoggers-video

I therefore presume they have already dealt with the issue of right lane hoggers. I think it is a bit soon for NZ to worry about the middle lane when we have so many that can't stay out of the right lane. The law here is keep left unless passing, covers both lane IMO but not as easy to police as speed cameras, I think about how hard it would be to observe someone driving in the right lane when not overtaking, actually not that hard at all and with a bit of software .... Ok so I spent a fear bit of my ride in today in the left lane getting past the traffic queued in the right :woohoo:

On the Welly urban, about the only place there is a middle lane, straight through traffic in the middle lane makes sense, leave the left for on and off ramp traffic and the right for overtaking, but if you aren't keeping up with the motorway traffic, speed restricted to 90 say, then use the left.

[Berries]

I'm too not sure what the law is here
Well you live here so why not find out? Have a read of the Road User Rule. There is nothing that says you have to stay in the left most lane unless overtaking on a multi lane road. [EDIT - There you go, a different opinion to oneofsix to start the ball rolling]. Undertaking is also allowed here on multi lane roads which in the UK has been an offence for years.

I ride the only 100km/h dual carriageway down here every day and every day without fail I have to undertake someone who just sits in the right hand lane not passing anyone. It annoys me because I grew up in the UK with their strict lane discipline, but then I have to remember where I am and the fact that it is not discouraged here. It should be, like in a passing lane. But then hey, I am on a bike and moving chicanes make the trip more enjoyable.

[Mort]

Is undertaking allowed ? - I didnt know that...

[oneofsix]

Is undertaking allowed ? - I didnt know that...

On multi-laned roads, and right turning vehicles but check the road code.

[Pumba]

....The law here is keep left unless passing.....

Not a law, mearly a recomendation and a reminder on signs of good road etiquette

[Devil]

Is undertaking allowed ? - I didnt know that...

Yep, as stated on multi laned roads.
You can pass a vehicle on the left on a single lane road if they are stationery, or if they are in the process of turning right.

[imdying]

I'm too not sure what the law is hereConsider finding out!

[Mort]

Consider finding out!

I did... It would appear that the law requires drivers to use the left hand most available lane (which many do not hence my initial post about lane hogging). http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/about-driving/keeping-left.html

What I didn't know (and rather disagree with) was that overtaking on the left is permitted : http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/about-driving/passing.html

[Murray]

I ride the only 100km/h dual carriageway down here every day and every day without fail I have to undertake someone who just sits in the right hand lane not passing anyone.

And what speed are you doing??? Is there a problem sitting in the right hand lane if you are doing or above the speed limit. Whenever I drive through Auckland i always try and sit in the right hand lane to avoid ongoing and off going traffic yet I ride at about 105km to 110km so if anyone passes me they are breaking the law

[ElCoyote]

And what speed are you doing??? Is there a problem sitting in the right hand lane if you are doing or above the speed limit. Whenever I drive through Auckland i always try and sit in the right hand lane to avoid ongoing and off going traffic yet I ride at about 105km to 110km so if anyone passes me they are breaking the law

How righteous of you. The law as she is writ says you must keep as far left as practicable. End of story!!

[BoristheBiter]

And what speed are you doing??? Is there a problem sitting in the right hand lane if you are doing or above the speed limit. Whenever I drive through Auckland i always try and sit in the right hand lane to avoid ongoing and off going traffic yet I ride at about 105km to 110km so if anyone passes me they are breaking the law

so you think it is alright for you to break the speed limit (as it is only 100) but no for anyone else.

what a knob

[oneofsix]

And what speed are you doing??? Is there a problem sitting in the right hand lane if you are doing or above the speed limit. Whenever I drive through Auckland i always try and sit in the right hand lane to avoid ongoing and off going traffic yet I ride at about 105km to 110km so if anyone passes me they are breaking the law

So you think it is already to break the keep left law with your inconsiderate driving but not ok for someone to drive a little bit faster than you.

[imdying]

I did... It would appear that the law requires drivers to use the left hand most available lane (which many do not hence my initial post about lane hogging).Indeed! Now is the road code the law?

[bogan]

The law as she is writ says you must keep as far left as practicable. End of story!!

Actually, the story should end with reference to where that is writ...

[Voltaire]

Murrays a road hog :nya::nya::nya: Hasn't the novelty of multi lane roads worn off yet?

[oneofsix]

Actually, the story should end with reference to where that is writ...

the road code, you know, that funny book that you are meant to study before getting a driving license, but for digital kiddies you can even get it on line. http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/about-driving/keeping-left.html


Keeping left on a laned road

Most roads in New Zealand have lanes marked on them with a white line or raised studs.

When driving on a laned road, it is important to drive your vehicle within your lane.

Where there are two or more lanes on your side of the centre line:

keep in the left-hand lane as much as you can
don't use the lane closest to the centre line if you will hold up other vehicles.
The lane closest to the centre line should only be used when:

you want to pass another vehicle
you want to turn right
the left-hand lane is full with other traffic or is blocked.

And that would be one of the few times that website has provided exactly what it was asked for.

And another quote from the motorway section

When driving on a motorway:

keep left, unless you are passing

[Swoop]

NZ has the monopoly on idiots who fail to keep left and believe they are entitled to stay in the right hand lane.

They probably wonder why other road users abuse them so often.

[bogan]

the road code, you know, that funny book that you are meant to study before getting a driving license, but for digital kiddies you can even get it on line.

But he said it was writ in law, and thus the end of the story. The road code is supposed to reflect law and good driving practices, but it is not law itself. Alas, it would seem the story is not yet done...

[Gremlin]

The road code is not actually the law.

Undertaking (as in, passing on the left, separate lanes) in UK is absolutely not allowed (and you'll be fined). They recognise the motorway as a series of lanes.

In NZ, each lane is recognised in it's own right, undertaking (as in, passing on the left, separate lanes) is allowed, and while it's certainly considered good driving to keep left... good drivers are in the absolute minority. Try following cars in the fast lane on Auckland motorways doing 80kph... :facepalm:

[Tigadee]

I give up on road users being sensible and considerate. And these are not just Asians, but all creeds and ethnicities! I find I use the left motorway lane more (cruising or undertaking) and get to where I want to go faster! :facepalm:

When I see someone obviously holding up traffic and hogging the right hand lane, I pass on the left and give a wave to say "Pull over" and then point to the rear asking them to check six, then continue on past.

That said, sometimes it's because there is a cop car ahead somewhere that makes people go silly and slow down. :weird:

[oneofsix]

But he said it was writ in law, and thus the end of the story. The road code is supposed to reflect law and good driving practices, but it is not law itself. Alas, it would seem the story is not yet done...

:rofl: it is call "The official New Zealand road code" and like you say it reflects the law.


KEEPING LEFT Keeping left

Drivers must keep left on multi-lane roads unless turning, passing or the left lane is blocked.

:nya: :motu:

[bogan]

:rofl: it is call "The official New Zealand road code" and like you say it reflects the law.



:nya: :motu:

You may find the qa section is also just a reflection of the actual law too...


2.1 Keeping left
(1) A driver, when driving, must at all times drive as near as
practicable to the left side of the roadway unless this rule
otherwise provides.
(2) If a driver’s speed, when driving, is such as to impede the
normal and reasonable flow of traffic, that driver must, as soon
as is reasonably practicable, move the vehicle as far as practicable
to the left side of the roadway when this is necessary to
allow following traffic to pass.
(3) A driver may drive in the right lane in the direction of travel
when driving on a multi-lane road if—
(a) the driver is turning right, or making a U-turn from the
centre of the road, and is giving the prescribed signal of
that driver’s intention to turn right; or
(b) the driver is passing; or
(c) the left lane is unavailable to the driver; or
(d) the driver is required by any provision of this rule to
drive in the right lane; or
(e) a variable lane control downward-facing arrow sign
indicates that the driver must drive in the right lane; or
(f) the driver is avoiding an obstruction; or
(g) the traffic in all other lanes is congested; or
(h) the traffic in every lane is congested.

[ElCoyote]

But he said it was writ in law, and thus the end of the story. The road code is supposed to reflect law and good driving practices, but it is not law itself. Alas, it would seem the story is not yet done...

I think you will find it is game set and match. May I have the good fortune to meet you on a motorway somewhere

[bogan]

I think you will find it is game set and match. May I have the good fortune to meet you on a motorway somewhere

If you're playing tennis on the motorway, be it the left lane or any other, I think I'd rather not meet you there...

[jasonu]

Not a law, mearly a recomendation and a reminder on signs of good road etiquette

Pretty sure it used to be the 1st law in the road code.

[Murray]

so you think it is alright for you to break the speed limit (as it is only 100) but no for anyone else.

what a knob

Now i know how you got the name Boris - the - BITER

[paturoa]

And what speed are you doing??? Is there a problem sitting in the right hand lane if you are doing or above the speed limit. Whenever I drive through Auckland i always try and sit in the right hand lane to avoid ongoing and off going traffic yet I ride at about 105km to 110km so if anyone passes me they are breaking the law

If you're trolling then well done.

If you're serious, then you're part of the problem. http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/65833

Edit: have you calibrated your speedo against a GPS?

[Erelyes]

Since noone has bothered yet to actually reference legislation....

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2004/0427/latest/DLM303041.html

Edit: Bogan posted it, but this is the sauce.

Note that 2.1(1) says 'roadway' and not 'lane'. Hence, keep left unless passing is law, regardless of whether there are lanes or not. (Unless an exception in 2.1(3) applies)

[Voltaire]

Amusing how motorcyclists are always so keen to quote the road rules..... New Zealand driving has been like it is as long as I can remember, if you want good driving and people who obey rules I suggest Germany. Over there you don't stay in the outside lane unless passing, nor do you expect anyone to 'let you in' at the front of queue just coz you think you can push in late.... Lawn mowing on a Sunday is also frowned upon too.

[swbarnett]

police will be able to issue £100 fine and three-points for careless driving offences that currently have to go through the courts.
This is the bit that I have an issue with. Yet more instant fines with no chance whatsoever to offer up a defence.

[BoristheBiter]

This is the bit that I have an issue with. Yet more instant fines with no chance whatsoever to offer up a defence.

Well as it is not a rule/fine for NZ there is no need for you to concern your soft constitution.

[Scuba_Steve]

Must say I'm somewhat surprised at the level of ignorance surrounding the legal obligation to keep left coming from bikers.
I hope at the least if you didn't think it law you at-least followed it out of common courtesy

[swbarnett]

Well as it is not a rule/fine for NZ there is no need for you to concern your soft constitution.
Only a matter of time. Unfortunately the trend in the western world seems to be a return to a feudal society. Increasingly us peasents have absolutely no recourse if we don't like what those on high say about the way we live our lives.

[Gremlin]

This is the bit that I have an issue with. Yet more instant fines with no chance whatsoever to offer up a defence.
If you read the article, they mention that people can still defend it in court... they're just trying to decrease the load on the courts.

[BoristheBiter]

Only a matter of time. Unfortunately the trend in the western world seems to be a return to a feudal society. Increasingly us peasents have absolutely no recourse if we don't like what those on high say about the way we live our lives.

Yes no matter how hard we try the peasants are still revolting.

[cheshirecat]

Yes no matter how hard we try the peasants are still revolting. he meant futile society i think

[swbarnett]

Yes no matter how hard we try the peasants are still revolting.
Not revolting enough. We need a little revolution now and then.

[swbarnett]

he meant futile society i think
One could argue that that is actually what I said. Or at least meant to imply.

[Madness]

In Lower Hutt there are signs approximately every kilometer along the motorway (the pedants will be along shortly with the correct name of the section of road beside the river between Haywards & Kelson). These signs say "Keep left unless overtaking" and I must say, most people seem to obey these signs. Moving to D'Auckland I soon noticed that the trend was in fact the opposite, most people keep right unless undertaking. I'm yet to see a single sign anywhere in D'Auckland to remind motorists of their obligation to keep left. Maybe the authorities figure it's a waste of time as the habit seems to be ingrained in the driving habits of so many D'Aucklanders (and Hamiltonians too, it seems)?.

[st00ji]

yes, the old rolling road block is certainly frustrating.

most annoying is when its caused by police cars doing 80k in 100k zones, no-one is game to pass them and so we end up with a huge pack of cars doing 80 and hundreds of metres of clear roads ahead.

i wonder if peoples fear of passing a police car is because of the over zealous speed limit policing in this country?

just makes me love the bike even more.

[Tarded]

And what speed are you doing??? Is there a problem sitting in the right hand lane if you are doing or above the speed limit. Whenever I drive through Auckland i always try and sit in the right hand lane to avoid ongoing and off going traffic yet I ride at about 105km to 110km so if anyone passes me they are breaking the law

Arrogant self righteous shite. :bash::
You are not the keeper of all souls so sod off left like you know you are meant to.
By legal or moral rules.

[Tarded]

What is it with bloody poms coming here and trying to create little britain?

Bugger off home if its so good.

There is no reason not pass in a clear lane on a motorway. The barrier stops any moron panicking and swerving into oncoming traffic so there is no reason - except for people wanting to play controller of all by doing 95km/h in the 'fast' lane to prevent anyone getting past them as they are the safest of all.

:motu::tugger:

[BoristheBiter]

Not revolting enough. We need a little revolution now and then.

shouldn't that be revulsion?

[Erelyes]

What is it with bloody poms coming here and trying to create little britain?

Isn't that what being a colony is all about?

[Tarded]

No because the 'colony' was a long time ago.

We do it better than them now. With less rules.

And we pass on the left without issue.

[awayatc]

Must say I'm somewhat surprised at the level of ignorance surrounding the legal obligation to keep left coming from bikers.
I hope at the least if you didn't think it law you at-least followed it out of common courtesy

fuck that..........

i'm on a bike....

i go wherever there is a gap....

middle of the road or sidewalk....

[BMWST?]

And what speed are you doing??? Is there a problem sitting in the right hand lane if you are doing or above the speed limit. Whenever I drive through Auckland i always try and sit in the right hand lane to avoid ongoing and off going traffic yet I ride at about 105km to 110km so if anyone passes me they are breaking the law

and you arent?

[swbarnett]

shouldn't that be revulsion?
That too......

[Berries]

And what speed are you doing??? Is there a problem sitting in the right hand lane if you are doing or above the speed limit. Whenever I drive through Auckland i always try and sit in the right hand lane to avoid ongoing and off going traffic yet I ride at about 105km to 110km so if anyone passes me they are breaking the law
My speed is irrelevant. Obviously I am going faster than the vehicle ahead which is why I want to pass it. I treat undertaking like splitting, I will only do it at a few km/h faster than the vehicle I am passing purely not to spook them or become a target for a *555 call. Funny how nine times out of ten the said car indicates and pulls in to the left lane after I pass as if I have just woken them from their stupor which, to be honest, is what I think this is all about. IMO it should be common courtesy for anyone on a multi lane road to pull to the left if a vehicle is catching them up, regardless of what speed either vehicle is doing. Unfortunately courtesy is one of the things lacking on NZ roads, at least down this way.

[ac3_snow]

IMO it should be common courtesy for anyone on a multi lane road to pull to the left if a vehicle is catching them up, regardless of what speed either vehicle is doing. Unfortunately courtesy is one of the things lacking on NZ roads, at least down this way.

This guy nailed it.

Unfortunately courtesy, much like sense, is not so common.

[Kickaha]

IMO it should be common courtesy for anyone on a multi lane road to pull to the left if a vehicle is catching them up, regardless of what speed either vehicle is doing.
That would rely on them using their mirrors and noticing a faster vehicle approaching, cant see it catching on myself

[Berries]

That would rely on them using their mirrors and noticing a faster vehicle approaching, cant see it catching on myself
People say I am a dreamer.


But I'm not the only one.

[Tarded]

My speed is irrelevant. Obviously I am going faster than the vehicle ahead which is why I want to pass it. I treat undertaking like splitting, I will only do it at a few km/h faster than the vehicle I am passing purely not to spook them or become a target for a *555 call. Funny how nine times out of ten the said car indicates and pulls in to the left lane after I pass as if I have just woken them from their stupor which, to be honest, is what I think this is all about. IMO it should be common courtesy for anyone on a multi lane road to pull to the left if a vehicle is catching them up, regardless of what speed either vehicle is doing. Unfortunately courtesy is one of the things lacking on NZ roads, at least down this way.

Speed is never irrelevant. Its the cause of this discussion indirectly.

And undertaking is what they do to dead people.

A *555 call wont get you imprisoned so dont worry about it. Only a wanker will call *555 for being passed on the left and they will be told its not illegal here.

If being passed on the left on a multi lane road 'spooks' someone they need to start walking everywhere - they are not suited to driving.

This isnt even an issue here - dont try to make it one.

We dont need another stupid law, we have enough. Esp. one that is very hard to police as it requires an officer to see the pass.
Or do you want cameras everywhere too??

[Berries]

Speed is never irrelevant. Its the cause of this discussion indirectly.

And undertaking is what they do to dead people.

A *555 call wont get you imprisoned so dont worry about it. Only a wanker will call *555 for being passed on the left and they will be told its not illegal here.

If being passed on the left on a multi lane road 'spooks' someone they need to start walking everywhere - they are not suited to driving.

This isnt even an issue here - dont try to make it one.

We dont need another stupid law, we have enough. Esp. one that is very hard to police as it requires an officer to see the pass.
Or do you want cameras everywhere too??
I never said I wanted a law change. It just strikes me personally as very odd that someone will sit in the right hand lane when there is no traffic in the left hand lane. It shows a lack of consideration to the road users around you, or just a lack of thought about the task at hand. IMHO. Knowing the rules I will happily undertake someone. My comment re *555 was speed related. I would not overtake someone on the left with the same kind of speed differential I would on the right.

[Murray]

Arrogant self righteous shite. :bash::
You are not the keeper of all souls so sod off left like you know you are meant to.
By legal or moral rules.


and you arent?

Oh you scooter boy - so much to learn - see post 27

Gotcha

By the way did you forget the RE on the front of your username????

[bogan]

Oh you scooter boy - so much to learn - see post 27

Gotcha

By the way did you forget the RE on the front of your username????

There is hope for the standard of KB 'trolling' yet. A far better job than the racisit/idiotic/offensive drivel that must generally be waded through when a kb troll turns up, this one actually gave me a few laughs.

[Tigadee]

That would rely on them using their mirrors and noticing a faster vehicle approaching, cant see it catching on myself

Yeah, just a passing fad... :whistle:

[Rhys]

As much as I hate to say it I think that people should have to re sit there license every 10 yrs. I would bet that 75% of people that have a current license would fail !

[Clockwork]

I think you guys should just leave this subject alone.

Despite what Madness says, I commute SH2 through Lower Hutt everyday and let me tell you, my ride home would be a lot slower if it wasn't for that empty left hand lane!

The last thing I need is for half those drivers to suddenly develop a little lane discipline.

[Road kill]

As much as I hate to say it I think that people should have to re sit there license every 10 yrs. I would bet that 75% of people that have a current license would fail !

I've done that 4 times in the last 12 years as I worked my way back up the ladder after letting my NZ licences lapse while overseas.

I never had to resit any of them a second time so other the money involved I kind of agree with that.

It did me no harm but did cost around $3500 which did hurt a bit.

Where it all falls down is that there's no test for attitude or personality disorders like being an arrogant when behind the wheel.

Most of us would fail those.

[Katman]

Lawn mowing on a Sunday is also frowned upon too.

And they don't like you talking about the war.

[Madness]

I think you guys should just leave this subject alone.

Despite what Madness says, I commute SH2 through Lower Hutt everyday and let me tell you, my ride home would be a lot slower if it wasn't for that empty left hand lane!

The last thing I need is for half those drivers to suddenly develop a little lane discipline.

So it's worn off then? This is what happens when good solid Wellingtonians travel around the country and pick up all the bad habits from drivers in Auckland & Hamilton.

[Katman]

People say I am a dreamer.


But I'm not the only one.

You should probably keep your mind on what you're doing.

[Moi]

New road signs??

[Road kill]

A standardised road etiquette class or classes should be a critical component of all licencing in this country.

If everybody was taught the same standard to begin with most of the ignorance created incidents should drop.

Every licenced driver in the country should be made to retest just on the etiquette component of the now standard road licencing test just so their up to date.

People need to be taught how to play nice an they need to all be taught the same thing.

[Erelyes]

A standardised road etiquette class or classes should be a critical component of all licencing in this country.

If everybody was taught the same standard to begin with most of the ignorance created incidents should drop.

Every licenced driver in the country should be made to retest just on the etiquette component of the now standard road licencing test just so their up to date.

People need to be taught how to play nice an they need to all be taught the same thing.

Nice thought and I'm sure it would have some effect. However to me it seems we hardly bother enforcing the rules we already have. Telling the douche that sat 3m off my rear end on the motorway the other night 'tailgating is bad, mmkay' is gonna do 2/10ths of fuckall - he's already in full D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. mode. The teaching would be wasted on the majority who already understand and abide by the (fairly simple) rules of the road.

Wasn't just cos I was a learner biker either, when I moved to the left lane he just started doing the same to the sedan in front of me. :brick:

[BoristheBiter]

Nice thought and I'm sure it would have some effect. However to me it seems we hardly bother enforcing the rules we already have. Telling the douche that sat 3m off my rear end on the motorway the other night 'tailgating is bad, mmkay' is gonna do 2/10ths of fuckall - he's already in full D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. mode. The teaching would be wasted on the majority who already understand and abide by the (fairly simple) rules of the road.

Wasn't just cos I was a learner biker either, when I moved to the left lane he just started doing the same to the sedan in front of me. :brick:

Should have got out of his way earlier then;)

[Clockwork]

So it's worn off then? This is what happens when good solid Wellingtonians travel around the country and pick up all the bad habits from drivers in Auckland & Hamilton.

TBH I think its mostly due to the majority of north bound traffic exiting SH2 to the right. As far as I can tell, if you need to make a right hand anywhere in the next 15-20Km you need to drive in the right hand lane. (well that's my theory, anyway.)

[BMWST?]

There is somemerit to that argument,it's better than changing lanes in the last 100 metres
sent from the tag

[Brayden]

And what speed are you doing??? Is there a problem sitting in the right hand lane if you are doing or above the speed limit. Whenever I drive through Auckland i always try and sit in the right hand lane to avoid ongoing and off going traffic yet I ride at about 105km to 110km so if anyone passes me they are breaking the law

People like you are the fuckin problem dude.. IT doesn't matter whether your going the legal speed limit or not.. Don't be such a prided up asshole about it.. If someones travelling faster than you.. Then just move over?? It only takes 2 seconds of your 24 hour day? If I'm on a bike and theres a car moving fast coming up behind me i will ALWAYS pull over NO MATTER what speed they are doing because it is being COURTEOUS and I hope others do the same back to me. By not pulling over you are frustrating drivers and make them do dangerous overtakes.. Think above yourself.. Hate dicks like you

Bet you are the type of dude to honk and pull the fingers at frustrated bikers overtaking you on yellow lines.. Arrogant motrists.. Making NZ roads dangerous since ages ago..

[sil3nt]

People like you are the fuckin problem dude.. IT doesn't matter whether your going the legal speed limit or not.. Don't be such a prided up asshole about it.. If someones travelling faster than you.. Then just move over?? It only takes 2 seconds of your 24 hour day? If I'm on a bike and theres a car moving fast coming up behind me i will ALWAYS pull over NO MATTER what speed they are doing because it is being COURTEOUS and I hope others do the same back to me. By not pulling over you are frustrating drivers and make them do dangerous overtakes.. Think above yourself.. Hate dicks like you

Bet you are the type of dude to honk and pull the fingers at frustrated bikers overtaking you on yellow lines.. Arrogant motrists.. Making NZ roads dangerous since ages ago..So much irony
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[Rhys]

I was on SH1 friday night an ambulance came though lights and siren going, the person in the right lane next to me had no I dear he as their even when the ambulance sounded his horn (and fuck they are loud) If can't people can't see or hear an ambulance what hope is there! :brick:

[varminter]

I was on SH1 friday night an ambulance came though lights and siren going, the person in the right lane next to me had no I dear he as their even when the ambulance sounded his horn (and fuck they are loud) If can't people can't see or hear an ambulance what hope is there! :brick:

Are you on something? Or am I dyslexic?

[Berries]

Are you on something? Or am I dyslexic?
No I dear dood.

[awa355]

Are you on something? Or am I dyslexic?

I will tell a similar story ( in english). I was driving the ambulance along a country road, came up behind a chap doing about 70kph. I was responding to a 'code 1' call which meant the use of all warning devices etc. This guy had his head rocking to the beat of his headphones. The air horns, siren, flashing lights etc were blasting out. For what seemed like an eternity, he dawdled along. Finally he looked into his rear view mirror. Poor buggar darn near ran into the water table.

If they aint looking or listening, they aint seeing or hearing anything.

[PrincessBandit]

I think the general consensus, from what I've read here, really confirms that NZ'ers tend to be caught up in their own little world when on the road and many don't give two hoots about other people/vehicles they have to share the road with. How many motorists sit smugly "in control" of their vehicle yet oblivious to what's happening around them.? I suspect too though that there are just as many appalling motorists who like to con-troll others on the road by being determined that "you ain't going to pass me, while I sit here on the open road at 85kph", or "why shouldn't I sit up your date to intimidate you out of the way because your 100kph on the open road is holding me up from my far superior need to go faster" etc.

The concept of multi lanes in NZ simply gives rude arrogant road users more lanes in which to drive with bad manners, rather than any form of streamlined travel/speed system. It probably harks back to the not too distant past when we had comparatively few cars on the road (for the amount of tarseal we have) and people could pretty much drive / ride how they liked because we simply didn't have huge congestion issues and a high volume of traffic to deal with. The lack of ability to drive to the conditions in bad weather only confirms the Kiwi struggle to "drive to the conditions" - whatever they may be. And that includes people who, in ideal road and weather conditions, still seem to be afraid of doing 100kph on the open road!

Oh, the other thing that gets me going is truck drivers who insist on trying to overtake another truck in the passing lanes and end up just creating a moving barrier that no one is able to get past - but don't get me started on that.

[Scuba_Steve]

Oh, the other thing that gets me going is truck drivers who insist on trying to overtake another truck in the passing lanes and end up just creating a moving barrier that no one is able to get past - but don't get me started on that.

Playing the devil here, that's largely due to the cars. While once upon a time cars would just accelerate past at decent rates & the truck could then follow tail end, nowadays most just slowly dawdle past (usually barley faster than the truck anyhow) leaving no room for the truck or really any other car to get past so the truck kinda has to just go for it or forever be stuck behind a slower truck.

If PIGs would stop scamming the passing lanes & cars would pass at decent rates, the roads could flow much better & trucks wouldn't have to block the passing lanes.

[BoristheBiter]

I think the general consensus, from what I've read here, really confirms that NZ'ers tend to be caught up in their own little world when on the road and many don't give two hoots about other people/vehicles they have to share the road with. How many motorists sit smugly "in control" of their vehicle yet oblivious to what's happening around them.? I suspect too though that there are just as many appalling motorists who like to con-troll others on the road by being determined that "you ain't going to pass me, while I sit here on the open road at 85kph", or "why shouldn't I sit up your date to intimidate you out of the way because your 100kph on the open road is holding me up from my far superior need to go faster" etc.

The concept of multi lanes in NZ simply gives rude arrogant road users more lanes in which to drive with bad manners, rather than any form of streamlined travel/speed system. It probably harks back to the not too distant past when we had comparatively few cars on the road (for the amount of tarseal we have) and people could pretty much drive / ride how they liked because we simply didn't have huge congestion issues and a high volume of traffic to deal with. The lack of ability to drive to the conditions in bad weather only confirms the Kiwi struggle to "drive to the conditions" - whatever they may be. And that includes people who, in ideal road and weather conditions, still seem to be afraid of doing 100kph on the open road!

Oh, the other thing that gets me going is truck drivers who insist on trying to overtake another truck in the passing lanes and end up just creating a moving barrier that no one is able to get past - but don't get me started on that.

You forgot the ones that will never overtake but sit up the arse of the car in front so you now need to overtake two cars and so on until there is a line of cars.



If PIGs would stop scamming the passing lanes & cars would pass at decent rates, the roads could flow much better & trucks wouldn't have to block the passing lanes.

No really? never thought that was how you felt. you should tell us how you feel more often.

[Murray]

There is hope for the standard of KB 'trolling' yet. A far better job than the racisit/idiotic/offensive drivel that must generally be waded through when a kb troll turns up, this one actually gave me a few laughs.

And the ones who jump on a thread and dont read it properly and still bite!! Love it



People like you are the fuckin problem dude.. IT doesn't matter whether your going the legal speed limit or not.. Don't be such a prided up asshole about it.. If someones travelling faster than you.. Then just move over?? It only takes 2 seconds of your 24 hour day? If I'm on a bike and theres a car moving fast coming up behind me i will ALWAYS pull over NO MATTER what speed they are doing because it is being COURTEOUS and I hope others do the same back to me. By not pulling over you are frustrating drivers and make them do dangerous overtakes.. Think above yourself.. Hate dicks like you

Bet you are the type of dude to honk and pull the fingers at frustrated bikers overtaking you on yellow lines.. Arrogant motrists.. Making NZ roads dangerous since ages ago..


Oh you scooter boy - so much to learn - see post 27

Gotcha


Being COURTEOUS is not calling people dude and telling them they are the F&*^ing problem.

[Berries]

you should tell us how you feel my often.
Probably with gloves on you dirty bastard.

[ElCoyote]

And the ones who jump on a thread and dont read it properly and still bite!! Love it






Being COURTEOUS is not calling people dude and telling them they are the F&*^ing problem.

Understanding that you and your ilk are the fucking problem would go a long way to solving the problem. Arsewipe

[Murray]

Understanding that you and your ilk are the fucking problem would go a long way to solving the problem. Arsewipe

And dredging up a thread from over a year ago and still not understanding it - along with the abusive and gutter language makes me wonder who has the problem.

I suggest you go to the post by Bogan #57 and maybe you might see the light:yawn::yawn:

[Voltaire]

And dredging up a thread from over a year ago and still not understanding it - along with the abusive and gutter language makes me wonder who has the problem.

I suggest you go up a the post by Bogan #57 and maybe you might see the light:yawn::yawn:

Don't be too hard on them Murray, probably took him a year to read it, ah the joys of the internet.

[Murray]

Don't be too hard on them Murray, probably took him a year to read it, ah the joys of the internet.

Bling for you