Overinflated scooter tyre

[Peejaydee]

I'm just starting to move about a bit more after a slip on a wet lane marking whilst bearing left at 35kmph.

The more I thought about it, the more I thought my scooter's response was a bit extreme. Now I accept that I'm an inexperienced rider, however, I'd just (Thursday) taken it in for a WOF and service before this happened (Saturday) so I was concerned when I checked my front tyre pressure it was 40% overinflated 4 weeks to the day after servicing.

Should I say something, do you think? Could the pressure be contributory to the accident? :scooter:

[jellywrestler]

I'm just starting to move about a bit more after a slip on a wet lane marking whilst bearing left at 35kmph.

The more I thought about it, the more I thought my scooter's response was a bit extreme. Now I accept that I'm an inexperienced rider, however, I'd just (Thursday) taken it in for a WOF and service before this happened (Saturday) so I was concerned when I checked my front tyre pressure it was 40% overinflated 4 weeks to the day after servicing.

Should I say something, do you think? Could the pressure be contributory to the accident? :scooter:

course you should say something, go to a mirror and say to yourself, 'i must check my tyre pressures at least once a week'...

[Peejaydee]

Fair comment. This was 2 days after a service.

[Akzle]

isn't there a KiwiScooterandbumlickers site?

there fucken should be.

[caseye]

Ah, No PJ to answer your request this does not fit under "problematic"
Akz is a natural phenomena and must be negotiated with care and understanding, got that.

[Sable]

If they didn't change a tyre then they have no reason to check tyre pressures unless they're visibly flat. That's your own fault. As was the crash, road markings are notoriously slippery.

[Drew]

I'm just starting to move about a bit more after a slip on a wet lane marking whilst bearing left at 35kmph.

The more I thought about it, the more I thought my scooter's response was a bit extreme. Now I accept that I'm an inexperienced rider, however, I'd just (Thursday) taken it in for a WOF and service before this happened (Saturday) so I was concerned when I checked my front tyre pressure it was 40% overinflated 4 weeks to the day after servicing.

Should I say something, do you think? Could the pressure be contributory to the accident? :scooter:

Dude, was that you this morning on featherston street?

Sorry man, but I had a wee chuckle at people helping pick the thing up.:nya:

[Rhys]

Dude, was that you this morning on featherston street?

Sorry man, but I had a wee chuckle at people helping pick the thing up.:nya:

Help pick up a scooter ?

He must have had a short skirt

[AllanB]

Mmmmmmm short skirts.

[Drew]

Help pick up a scooter ?

He must have had a short skirt

Scooter was sorta on his leg in a spastic position.

[awa355]

Mmmmmmm short skirts.

My bird can beat your bird. 283743

[craisin]

over inflated tires cause this

[unstuck]

Justim Beiber rides a scooter.:yes:

[awa355]

over inflated tires cause this

This is what 'over inflated ' can do. 283753

[Madness]

Should I say something, do you think? Could the pressure be contributory to the accident? :scooter:

No harm in saying something IMO but I wouldn't be making a big deal about it with the service provider. As has been posted already, painted road markings are well known to be dangerous in the wet. The excess pressure would have contributed to the off bugger all at 35km/hr, certainly when compared to the probable contribution of the road & weather conditions.

Learn from it is the key and I think you're trying to achieve this with your op. Check your tyre pressures yourself regularly and maybe after each time you've had work done. Nothing beats peace of mind eh?

:scooter:

[Peejaydee]

No harm in saying something IMO but I wouldn't be making a big deal about it with the service provider. As has been posted already, painted road markings are well known to be dangerous in the wet. The excess pressure would have contributed to the off bugger all at 35km/hr, certainly when compared to the probable contribution of the road & weather conditions.

Learn from it is the key and I think you're trying to achieve this with your op. Check your tyre pressures yourself regularly and maybe after each time you've had work done. Nothing beats peace of mind eh?

:scooter:

Thanks for that nugget of gold in a pile of turd!

[unstuck]

:weep::weep::weep::nya::nya::nya:

[Akzle]

Thanks for that nugget of gold in a pile of turd!

you've got the hang of it already... maybe you're not so bad after all...

(but nahhhhh. bum licker.)

[caseye]

you've got the hang of it already... maybe you're not so bad after all...

(but nahhhhh. bum licker.)

Ass isn't it?
Go a long way to find such gems amongst good turds here on Kb young PJ.

[Zipper2T]

I took my scooter to the dealer for the scheduled services. Everytime it would come back with the tyre pressures totally at variance to the manufacturers recommendations. Had they even bothered to look at the owners manual? It made me wonder if they were unaware of even basic data like tyre pressures, could they really be trusted with important stuff like tightening bolts correctly.

[unstuck]

I took my scooter to the dealer for the scheduled services. Everytime it would come back with the tyre pressures totally at variance to the manufacturers recommendations. Had they even bothered to look at the owners manual? It made me wonder if they were unaware of even basic data like tyre pressures, could they really be trusted with important stuff like tightening bolts correctly.

Yep, its always somebody elses fault.:facepalm:

[Akzle]

I took my scooter to the dealer for the scheduled services. Everytime it would come back with the tyre pressures totally at variance to the manufacturers recommendations. Had they even bothered to look at the owners manual? It made me wonder if they were unaware of even basic data like tyre pressures, could they really be trusted with important stuff like tightening bolts correctly.

bahahahhahhaaaaa.

yeah. it's a 70$/hr mechanic's job to check your tyre pressures.
did you say the words "please check my tyre pressures?"

they might have overinflated them cos they thought you were a dick and wanted to laugh at you binning it, then moaning about i on KiwiBIKER

[craisin]

This is what 'over inflated ' can do. 283753

bit of humour

[p.dath]

I'm just starting to move about a bit more after a slip on a wet lane marking whilst bearing left at 35kmph.

Slips can happens for lots of reasons. Common ones (after light rain) is oil, petrol and diesel on the road that has been leaked from other vehicles. Rider skills can also contribute a lot - for example suddenly closing the throttle while cornering or using the front brake while cornering.


The more I thought about it, the more I thought my scooter's response was a bit extreme. Now I accept that I'm an inexperienced rider, however, I'd just (Thursday) taken it in for a WOF and service before this happened (Saturday) so I was concerned when I checked my front tyre pressure it was 40% overinflated 4 weeks to the day after servicing.

40% sounds a lot. Are you sure you have the right pressure for your tyre and that your tyre guage is ok? An over inflated tyre will reduce tyre grip.

[Sable]

I took my scooter to the dealer for the scheduled services. Everytime it would come back with the tyre pressures totally at variance to the manufacturers recommendations. Had they even bothered to look at the owners manual? It made me wonder if they were unaware of even basic data like tyre pressures, could they really be trusted with important stuff like tightening bolts correctly.

Most bike shops won't have the owner's manual for every bike and tyre gauges vary wildly, especially gas station ones. How about a bit of personal responsibility? :motu:

[Peejaydee]

Slips can happens for lots of reasons. Common ones (after light rain) is oil, petrol and diesel on the road that has been leaked from other vehicles. Rider skills can also contribute a lot - for example suddenly closing the throttle while cornering or using the front brake while cornering.



40% sounds a lot. Are you sure you have the right pressure for your tyre and that your tyre guage is ok? An over inflated tyre will reduce tyre grip.

Yes, hence my posting.

I've got a hard copy of this manual:-
http://www.pgo-scooter.com/support_getfile.php?code=SPT4dccf3449bcf8

Page 20 (or 23 of the pdf) has: -

Front: 1.5kg/cm
Rear: 1.75kg/cm

The stick gauge showed 2.1 kg/cm and I bought a digital a week later which showed it at 2.0. I've fitted an tyre pressure indicator to the rear tyre and I'm working on the same for the front (options are limited to led type for the lower pressure).

However, I did close the throttle on that corner, and looking at the junction recently, there's quite a number of lines. I'll put it down to experience and get myself booked in on another course once I can ride again - and take a bus when it's wet for now!

[danchop]

far out 1.5 is bugger all,like around 22psi or something,2.0 is around 30 psi which is what i put in the front of all my scooters and about 32psi for the rear

[Peejaydee]

Not sure what you're saying Danchop- that I should have it inflated more? Surely I should follow the handbook? You can see for yourself that it says 1.5 (which I made 22 psi too).

[Drew]

22psi is ample in a scooter tyre I should think.

There's little load on them, and the bike isn't fast enough to create any distortion/stability issues.

It would aid in keeping the hoop warmish, and tactile.

[DanielM8]

My first scooter down, did the same thing.. around a corner at hardly 10km/h on a little scooter.. had just put the tyres up to 30psi earlier that day because the weather was fine.. but, a puddle of oil (Which I avoided!) and a freaking electrical wire (which I went over without noticing, while avoiding that oil) gave it a good back wheel slip. The lesson in it for me was, well 2 lessons, 1) check the road where you're going TWICE because there's no excuse for missing something in the road conditions. And 2) Never put a scooter up at 30psi, around 22-25 psi works best for me. And lastly, if it's a bit of an old scooter, ask your service guy if your tyre treads look okay- you don't want to be riding on bald tyres or it could happen again. Hope the injuries weren't too bad.

[unstuck]

ask your service guy if your tyre treads look okay-

Surely you jest??:gob:

[awa355]

And 2) Never put a scooter up at 30psi, around 22-25 psi works best for me. And lastly, if it's a bit of an old scooter, ask your service guy if your tyre treads look okay- you don't want to be riding on bald tyres or it could happen again. Hope the injuries weren't too bad.

Wrong, if the manual says 30psi, then start with that and, maybe, work a couple of psi variation at a time. A lot of scooter riders find dropping the factory recommendations may give a softer ride to compensate for minimal suspension performance.

My Yamaha 100 has 29psi as the required pressure, and that's what I run in the tyres. Any pressure less makes the steering slugish and increases weaving through corners. A owner of the same model in Aussie runs 18 & 22 in his tyres. Experiment and see what works for you. What ever pressure is in the tyres is your responsibility.

[craisin]

Running lower pressures in your tires will increase your chances of breaking the rim to tire seal.
Im more worried about the centrestand scrapeing the road

[Drew]

Running lower pressures in your tires will increase your chances of breaking the rim to tire seal.
Used to run the rear hoop on my stunt bike, down around 14psi. If you're loading the tyres on a scooter, more than I was on an FZR750 mostly on one wheel, you're doing something very wrong.

[craisin]

Used to run the rear hoop on my stunt bike, down around 14psi. If you're loading the tyres on a scooter, more than I was on an FZR750 mostly on one wheel, you're doing something very wrong.
So im over 6 foot and over 130kgs and i ride on the rough roads of west Auckland
Most stunt riding is done in sand

[craisin]

sorry Drew you ride on tennis courts???:yawn:

[blackdog]

Most stunt riding is done in sand

Really? How would you get a FZR750 with 14psi in the rear to do anything in sand?

[Drew]

sorry Drew you ride on tennis courts???:yawn:Stunt park we had, has an old pot holed carpark.

Done a few trips over the 'takas with the RF rear tyre under inflated too. Was under 20psi from time to time, (I was too lazy to fix a puncture), never had that come off the rim either.

[sgtp]

My scoot was recently serviced. When asking if my severely scalloped rear tire was due for replacement, the guy said "yeah nah bro, she'll be alright." ....but when I lean the scoot over in corners, it feels like I am riding over speedbumps. Im not going to worry about it cuz the mechanic told me so, lol:brick: