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Crasherfromwayback
12th June 2013, 16:43
Only 188kg's fully fueled. That's not too bad...should be a fun ride.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcj5b7pfdyc&feature=player_embedded

Hitcher
12th June 2013, 16:48
All that's now needed is a New Zealand dealer network to sell them.

Crasherfromwayback
12th June 2013, 16:51
All that's now needed is a New Zealand dealer network to sell them.

I reckon! That'd be an awesome bike for Mrs Hitcher no?

Hitcher
12th June 2013, 16:52
I reckon! That'd be an awesome bike for Mrs Hitcher no?

What's the seat height?

Crasherfromwayback
12th June 2013, 16:55
What's the seat height?

Here ya go...

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/06/yamaha-unveils-2014-fz-09-850-triple/

hayd3n
12th June 2013, 18:27
i WANTZ WANTZ i wantz :)

Grizzo
12th June 2013, 18:31
Nice...very nice indeed.

Hitcher
12th June 2013, 18:42
An 815mm seat height takes this out of the Mrs H space for a starter. And a miserable 14 litre tank takes it out of mine.

I'm hoping that Yamaha has learned a bit about front suspension since the FZ8.

Drew
12th June 2013, 18:49
So, everyone talking about the R1 triple were speaking out of turn? Or they just haven't been released yet?

Implication from that article is that Yamaha said they were bringing out a triple, and this is it.

98tls
12th June 2013, 19:08
Bike looks great,love to hear it with a decent exhaust.Ad sucks though,just makes me want to ring up for a takeaway.

AllanB
12th June 2013, 19:20
Good price in the USA at $7990.

Be something silly like $15k in NZ .....

So a pointless exercise for me, it has a fraction more hp than my 900 hornet, less torque, weighs within 7kg and has some questionable styling aspects. I do want the headlight though!

My money is safe. (what money?).

I tell you the used bike market has some bloody attractive options on it if you are prepared to allow a bit of extra coin to upgrade suspenders. Shit loads of late model low km bikes that with a Mr T suspender upgrade will blitz a new model like that yammy for a absolute fraction of the cost.

Just imagine if Yammy NZ released that 850 at $10,000 ............ they may even need to open a few dealerships!

ducatilover
12th June 2013, 19:21
http://cdn.yamaha-motor.eu/product_assets/2014/MT09/2014-Yamaha-MT-09-EU-Race-Blu-Studio-001.jpg?width=910&quality=75 Looks like it'd be a fun ride!
Not sold on the looks though, looks nailed together (but I have poor taste)

BigAl
12th June 2013, 19:31
That instrument panel looks awful and what's with the huge radiator?

98tls
12th June 2013, 19:41
That instrument panel looks awful and what's with the huge radiator?

Its a device to aid with operating temp.:nya:

James Deuce
12th June 2013, 20:42
So it's a "girl's bike"?

Here I was thinking it would be an ideal replacement for the XJR. Oh well, I'll have to rethink that then.

pete376403
12th June 2013, 20:50
they've done it before, (almost)

Road kill
12th June 2013, 21:41
I like it.
Good old farts bike for riding fast on skinny roads.

I like the look and the seating position.

I sort of liked their 80's 850 triple as well.

AllanB
12th June 2013, 21:48
Forgot about the 80's 850/3 that would explain the cc rating - a link to the past (and just that bit bigger than MV's 800). I too liked the old 850 - bet there are still a few around.

Drew
12th June 2013, 22:41
Forgot about the 80's 850/3 that would explain the cc rating - a link to the past (and just that bit bigger than MV's 800). I too liked the old 850 - bet there are still a few around.

I dug one from a farm shed once.

Took a few hours to get it going, but it was a nice motor. I would have sent the thing flying off a cliff in flames, if I'd known how much damage I'd done to my knee when the kick start ratchet didn't grab.

nzspokes
13th June 2013, 06:41
Good price in the USA at $7990.

Be something silly like $15k in NZ .....

So a pointless exercise for me, it has a fraction more hp than my 900 hornet, less torque, weighs within 7kg and has some questionable styling aspects. I do want the headlight though!


That was my exact thought. Put a single can on the Hornet and they are the same weight.

A 14lt tank?????:wacko:

nudemetalz
13th June 2013, 08:29
That was my exact thought. Put a single can on the Hornet and they are the same weight.

A 14lt tank?????:wacko:

Maybe it's got absolutely superb fuel economy?

Paul in NZ
13th June 2013, 10:03
So it's a "girl's bike"?

Here I was thinking it would be an ideal replacement for the XJR. Oh well, I'll have to rethink that then.

Nah - you are good to go... Its you....

No good for me - the pillion looks about as good as any other in class (read shocking torture device) and no hope of carrying anything larger than a tooth brush and credit card plus I probably cant afford it....

mansell
13th June 2013, 14:10
they've done it before, (almost)

Yeah owned one about 20 years ago, bloody thing used to rattle like a baby's toy under 130km/h in top gear. Not a problem for me but I started to run up a few tickets on it before sold it on.

MD
13th June 2013, 14:33
That 14L tank has drawn some serious flak on other forums. What the hell were they thinking? How to instantly eliminated 70% of potential buyers. Well done Yamaha, in years to come magazines will hold that up as a hilarious example of manufacturers greatest design cock-ups.

I could list a few bikes I was keen to buy over the years that I immediately struck off my want list because of impractical tank range. I'm still haunted by memories of pushing my Harley Sportster and it's empty 12L tank wearing full riding gear on smeltering hot days. Funny it never stranded me on a cold day?

Is it just me or in some pics the dash looked way off centre to the rightside only, which might create an uneven wind blast pressure on the handlebars to steer right.

I don't mind the look but at only 115hp from an 850/3 that seems a weak effort. Still it might prove us wrong, be frugal and deliver stand out performance at a bargain price - we want more of that!

I have no ideal where any Yammy dealers are. Does Auckland have one or is Melbourne the closest?

James Deuce
13th June 2013, 15:03
There's a Yamaha dealer in Carterton.

EJK
13th June 2013, 15:11
That porn has nice bikes.

Gremlin
13th June 2013, 16:11
I have no ideal where any Yammy dealers are. Does Auckland have one or is Melbourne the closest?
Auckland has Red Baron currently, but I believe another will be announced shortly...

HenryDorsetCase
13th June 2013, 16:12
There's a Yamaha dealer in Carterton.

one in chur chur too. though at present he seems to be selling jap import 4WDs...

I actually really like that Yammie Bolt cruiser thing. Cheap in the states too.


I like the idea of this bike but am not in any way tempted to sell my Street Triple R to get it. which is bought and paid for, has really good suspension and an Arrow 3 > 1.


I love the matt black with purple wheels.

Hitcher
13th June 2013, 16:48
There's a Yamaha dealer in Carterton.

Does he sell anything besides farmbikes, trailies and quads? He didn't use to, so I haven't slipped in for a tyre kicking for quite some time.

hayd3n
13th June 2013, 16:58
im sure someone can make a bigger tank for it

nzspokes
13th June 2013, 17:39
Auckland has Red Baron currently, but I believe another will be announced shortly...

I heard Cycletreads were the new dealer.

cmoore
13th June 2013, 17:46
great looking bike.......and a trend we will see for a while as the big four scale down the price of new bikes...14L seems plenty compared to my XS650....

Erelyes
13th June 2013, 20:03
I can see where they are coming from with the 14L tank. Caters to the weekenders who do a hundred k (or two) every fortnight on sunny sundays and don't commute or tour. Guys with a six-figure job and sufficient lack of commitments that they can afford to have such a toy in the carpeted garage.

If you were looking for a tourer or commuter, the tank size would rule it out. Somehow I think Yamma don't care about that though.

The looks are pretty uninspiring, tho I like the purple wheels too. I also love the curving exhaust headers.

hayd3n
13th June 2013, 21:53
I can see where they are coming from with the 14L tank. Caters to the weekenders who do a hundred k (or two) every fortnight on sunny sundays and don't commute or tour. Guys with a six-figure job and sufficient lack of commitments that they can afford to have such a toy in the carpeted garage.

If you were looking for a tourer or commuter, the tank size would rule it out. Somehow I think Yamma don't care about that though.

The looks are pretty uninspiring, tho I like the purple wheels too. I also love the curving exhaust headers.

ive managed a escapade or two on my 600 hornet, and sometimes im looking for gas after 150kms of fun riding, the most ive ever done on a tank on this bike is 200kms

Road kill
13th June 2013, 22:43
The Adventurer only has a 15L tank.

It doesn't bother me much though because I need a stop every 150-200km anyway.

James Deuce
14th June 2013, 11:41
Does he sell anything besides farmbikes, trailies and quads? He didn't use to, so I haven't slipped in for a tyre kicking for quite some time.

Yes, since he moved to the new place he's had a few road bikes in and will order anything available from the Yamaha range available in NZ. Which is quite a small subset of Yamaha's full range.

James Deuce
14th June 2013, 11:42
one in chur chur too. though at present he seems to be selling jap import 4WDs...

I actually really like that Yammie Bolt cruiser thing. Cheap in the states too.


I like the idea of this bike but am not in any way tempted to sell my Street Triple R to get it. which is bought and paid for, has really good suspension and an Arrow 3 > 1.


I love the matt black with purple wheels.

I like the Bolt too. The R model with the headlamp fairing looks grouse.

Maha
14th June 2013, 12:48
I heard Cycletreads were the new dealer.

Where Hyosung are currently (they have moved out by now?) situated.

Hitcher
14th June 2013, 22:52
Yes, since he moved to the new place he's had a few road bikes in and will order anything available from the Yamaha range available in NZ. Which is quite a small subset of Yamaha's full range.

So I'll need to go to Melbourne or Nelson for a test ride. There goes the second kidney.

Drew
15th June 2013, 09:47
Yamaha NZ are just keeping the price of their becoming dated range up, until something decent comes out of the factory I reckon.

2020 should show some road bikes in dealers windows.

nodrog
15th June 2013, 09:58
Not sold on the looks though, looks nailed together ......

I read this, then I looked at your signature picture, now my arse has been laughed off!

Drew
15th June 2013, 10:08
I read this, then I looked at your signature picture, now my arse has been laughed off!Poor Dougs 400/600 contraption, is a victim of his boredom.

Gremlin
15th June 2013, 15:27
Where Hyosung are currently (they have moved out by now?) situated.
I don't know if it's official yet (Cycletreads and Yamaha), but 'Treads have kicked out some previous tenants behind them and expanded the shop through the back.

Maha
15th June 2013, 15:35
I don't know if it's official yet (Cycletreads and Yamaha), but 'Treads have kicked out some previous tenants behind them and expanded the shop through the back.

It's only unofficial to those who don't know innit?
I got told about the pending expansion back in March when I put new tyres on the Yamaha.

actungbaby
16th June 2013, 16:59
Yes like the fact its a triple
my fav is still 675 street.
I have yamaha though.

BMWST?
16th June 2013, 17:44
i liked my xs750e had some quirks for sure.i liked the 1050 tiger i rode the other day too...will have to watch out for this

Harry up
18th June 2013, 21:55
Auckland has Red Baron currently, but I believe another will be announced shortly...

I got my last oil/filter for my '11 R1 from the Yammy dealer in Kaiwaka, That's not an AG100 is it was what he asked, nope!
Apparently head office is being returned to NZ, another failed "Aussie State" management balls up.

AllanB
18th June 2013, 22:00
Apparently head office is being returned to NZ, another failed "Aussie State" management balls up.

Good to hear. Lets face if they are not supporting the riders the riders won't be buying their bikes!

Blackbird
18th June 2013, 22:14
Yes like the fact its a triple
my fav is still 675 street.
I have yamaha though.

I'll have owned my 675 Street for 4 years and it still does everything I want. Sure it is a hopeless pillion carrier but you don't own something like that to cart extra weight. Still haven't seen anything to tempt me away from it, certainly not the Yamaha which doesn't seem to offer anything extra. As others have said, tank size is a joke.

SPman
19th June 2013, 19:23
An 815mm seat height takes this out of the Mrs H space for a starter. .'Tis meant to be very slim though, and that does help.....

Just rode a Brutale 800 - suddenly the Yam doesn't look so good....

Crasherfromwayback
19th June 2013, 19:49
Just rode a Brutale 800 - suddenly the Yam doesn't look so good....

Why? Are they the same price?

Mental Trousers
19th June 2013, 21:50
Just rode a Brutale 800 - suddenly the Yam doesn't look so good....

I know someone who swapped a Triumph 675 for Brutale 800. He's absolutely loving it.

OnCam
20th June 2013, 10:19
looks good to me, nice to see something with an all round shame about the whole yamaha dealer situation.. they had a very large & impressive display at field-days which was very suprising!

James Deuce
20th June 2013, 18:22
'Tis meant to be very slim though, and that does help.....

Just rode a Brutale 800 - suddenly the Yam doesn't look so good....
Happy to lust after the Brutale. Would buy the Yam though.

sinned
14th October 2013, 21:15
Happy to lust after the Brutale. Would buy the Yam though.
When price doesn't matter the Brutale is the choice.

Robert Taylor
15th October 2013, 20:09
An 815mm seat height takes this out of the Mrs H space for a starter. And a miserable 14 litre tank takes it out of mine.

I'm hoping that Yamaha has learned a bit about front suspension since the FZ8.

Aw come on, there are people who frequent this site that are in denial about how bad the FZ8 front end is....

Don't hold your breath, the pervasive influence of engineering by accountants is here to stay, and affects all brands

GrayWolf
16th October 2013, 04:00
That 14L tank has drawn some serious flak on other forums. What the hell were they thinking? How to instantly eliminated 70% of potential buyers. Well done Yamaha, in years to come magazines will hold that up as a hilarious example of manufacturers greatest design cock-ups.

I don't mind the look but at only 115hp from an 850/3 that seems a weak effort. Still it might prove us wrong, be frugal and deliver stand out performance at a bargain price - we want more of that!


Sadly the MT's fuel tanks have 'always' been form over function, the MT-01 only has a 15ltr fuel tank...

As for 'only' 115bhp? That's 'only' 25-30 more than the original 'master blaster' had (Z900).... The MT series are about Torque, not BHP. The 01 'only' has about 85bhp... but 110ft lbs of torque... only thing I think that lets it down is it's a short stroke' rather than it's elder siblings (01-03) which long stroke.

Pickle
16th October 2013, 12:43
They are being released in Aussie on 12th Nov with a ride away price of $12000, so quite a lot under the Brutale price, getting good write ups already

Drew
17th October 2013, 05:36
They are being released in Aussie on 12th Nov with a ride away price of $12000, so quite a lot under the Brutale price, getting good write ups alreadyEverything gets good write ups these days. The writers/magazines don't want to upset distributors.

Bring back the days when you open a performance bike mag to the middle, and they explain that a bike is shit house, and doesn't meet the standard set by others.

nzspokes
17th October 2013, 06:41
Everything gets good write ups these days. The writers/magazines don't want to upset distributors.

Bring back the days when you open a performance bike mag to the middle, and they explain that a bike is shit house, and doesn't meet the standard set by others.

Agreed. When did you last read the latest bike was crap?

I guess thats where owners fourms can work well.

As for suspension, I cant work out why upgrade parts are so expensive. If people keep paying for it then they will keep selling it for that.

george formby
17th October 2013, 07:00
Everything gets good write ups these days. The writers/magazines don't want to upset distributors.

Bring back the days when you open a performance bike mag to the middle, and they explain that a bike is shit house, and doesn't meet the standard set by others.

Ah yes. Whatever happened to fastbikes mag?

george formby
17th October 2013, 07:06
Heres a concept triple TDM, hmmmmm. A Yamaha triple dual spurt would be nice bit more dual please.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/New-bikes/2013/October/Yamaha-TDM-triple-concept/

Crisis management
22nd October 2013, 11:55
They are being released in Aussie on 12th Nov with a ride away price of $12000, so quite a lot under the Brutale price, getting good write ups already

Saw the MT09 (I think that's right) at Phillip Island, looks good in the flesh and good ergos for me (175cm &70 kgs, so skinny white man) IIRC selling there for $10,999 plus ORC ($1000). Considering it was beside a shit load of Bimotas it was getting a lot of (deserved) attention.
Talking to a Yamaha dealer in Melbourne yesterday and he said there were two due to be shipped to NZ.

If I wanted a do it all bike, that would be high on my list, mind you if it's a 15 liter tank it would go off my list quite quickly too, if I can't ride 300kms I won't own it.

Crasherfromwayback
22nd October 2013, 12:06
Saw the MT09 (I think that's right) at Phillip Island, looks good in the flesh and good ergos for me (175cm &70 kgs, so skinny white man) IIRC selling there for $10,999 plus ORC ($1000). Considering it was beside a shit load of Bimotas it was getting a lot of (deserved) attention.
Talking to a Yamaha dealer in Melbourne yesterday and he said there were two due to be shipped to NZ.

If I wanted a do it all bike, that would be high on my list, mind you if it's a 15 liter tank it would go off my list quite quickly too, if I can't ride 300kms I won't own it.

At 15 litres there's no reason it won't go 300kms.

Crisis management
22nd October 2013, 12:55
At 15 litres there's no reason it won't go 300kms.

Be good if it does, my experience with unfaired 115hp bikes would make me a bit doubtful tho.... I don't have any knowledge of the bikes suggested fuel economy so you may be right Crasher, got anything more authorative than a wishful thought?

Crasherfromwayback
22nd October 2013, 13:38
Be good if it does, my experience with unfaired 115hp bikes would make me a bit doubtful tho.... I don't have any knowledge of the bikes suggested fuel economy so you may be right Crasher, got anything more authorative than a wishful thought?

Can't quite recall the kilometers per litre the mag said they got...but I would've thought 20km's per litre wouldn't be out of the question. I know I have a customer getting 24 on his 105hp Buell. And he doesn't piss about. I'd love to get a ride on one.

Pickle
22nd October 2013, 13:49
I'd love to get a ride on one.

Come & see me in about a months time, we have already ordered our demo

BMWST?
22nd October 2013, 21:51
Come & see me in about a months time, we have already ordered our demo

and where would one go to see that?

carbonhed
23rd October 2013, 09:05
MCN Shootout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJfd5LCttd4&feature=share&list=UUB_cdRhIDhlavY2I5URSC7g

Pickle
23rd October 2013, 09:38
and where would one go to see that?

Just to Canberra :rolleyes:
Might even make Pete drink one of my coffee's :laugh:

Crasherfromwayback
23rd October 2013, 09:42
:
Might even make Pete drink one of my coffee's :laugh:

Lol. I don't drink coffee mate!

Pickle
30th October 2013, 09:51
More info from Yamaha - they are stating in their release blurb " a potential range of 240kms" I would have wanted a bit more like 300kms, but will wait & see - fuel range is all down to how you ride the bike, me I get 140km when pushing it & have seen 270km when taking it easy

Drew
30th October 2013, 16:20
More info from Yamaha - they are stating in their release blurb " a potential range of 240kms" I would have wanted a bit more like 300kms, but will wait & see - fuel range is all down to how you ride the bike, me I get 140km when pushing it & have seen 270km when taking it easyYou can bet that 240ks isn't when riding like an arsehole.

Saw one in the shop the other day. Fucken ugly, and has none of the upgrades that should have just been put on the FZ8 instead of a new motor.

Yamaha are really doing their best to decrease their market share, as near as I can tell anyway.

Crasherfromwayback
30th October 2013, 17:36
Saw one in the shop the other day. Fucken ugly, and has none of the upgrades that should have just been put on the FZ8 instead of a new motor.

.

Take ya Suzuki blinkers off. I bet when your Bro was still selling Yamahas it would've looked and been shithot!

Drew
30th October 2013, 17:50
Take ya Suzuki blinkers off. I bet when your Bro was still selling Yamahas it would've looked and been shithot!'Fraid not Pete.

The GSR is pitiful in it's suspension and brakes too, but it looks better at least.

I was very unimpressed with the FZ8 when I rode one. Jimmy was selling them then too I think.

Gremlin
31st October 2013, 00:23
The GSR is pitiful in it's suspension and brakes too, but it looks better at least.

I was very unimpressed with the FZ8 when I rode one. Jimmy was selling them then too I think.
Most of the naked middleweights have got some parts from the budget bin... Seems to be a trend to keep em cheap.

That said, gotta look at the target market. If you're stepping off a small/learner bike, then sure, they're going to feel great. If you're experienced, ridden some really nice bikes, then you're not going to like it.

Drew
31st October 2013, 05:05
Most of the naked middleweights have got some parts from the budget bin... Seems to be a trend to keep em cheap.

That said, gotta look at the target market. If you're stepping off a small/learner bike, then sure, they're going to feel great. If you're experienced, ridden some really nice bikes, then you're not going to like it.I know why they do it. But realistically the cost per unit would be so little different to just put GSXR front ends straight in, or R6 in the Yamahas case.

avgas
31st October 2013, 08:33
Most of the naked middleweights have got some parts from the budget bin... Seems to be a trend to keep em cheap.

That said, gotta look at the target market. If you're stepping off a small/learner bike, then sure, they're going to feel great. If you're experienced, ridden some really nice bikes, then you're not going to like it.
Can't really blame them when the rest of us are content to ride a 20 year old bike because the new ones are "too expensive".
Same in all the markets really. New Corollas and Hilux's wouldn't last a week in the hands of a true work hack......the old ones are still going strong 30 years later.

My RG lasted 25,000 then the bill to put back on the road exceeded the cost of the bike.........the old RGV250's are good for 100,000 or a sharp right-hander, whichever came first.

Don't even get me started on Triumphs and coil packs/sagem computer.

actungbaby
31st October 2013, 09:49
Looks like it'd be a fun ride!
Not sold on the looks though, looks nailed together (but I have poor taste)

looks amazing and what i read about it i really want one . nooooooo mr honda save me

cynna
31st October 2013, 13:39
wouldn't mind a new tenere with that engine

James Deuce
31st October 2013, 14:20
I don't give a fuck what Drew thinks as he only rides shitters or gravel traps. I like it, I want one, and I'll be buying one new as soon as I can. It suits my needs for an occasional week day or weekend toy perfectly and it's a triple and it's not a Triumph. The colour options are horrible. I may have to employ a painter. Meh. No big deal. The accessories list for this thing is phenomenal and tasteful, no blue anodising to be seen anywhere.

http://yshop.yamaha-motor.co.nz/bolt-on-products/motorcycle/road/torque-sport/mt-09

GrayWolf
31st October 2013, 23:52
I know why they do it. But realistically the cost per unit would be so little different to just put GSXR front ends straight in, or R6 in the Yamahas case.

I believe a road tester did say the MT-09 has the R6 front end... Yamaha have said the MT-09 is targeted for a price point,.. There's no pleasing some, the MT-01 was a flagship, with damned good built quality at a price.. and that price killed it quite effectively... so Yamaha having learnt the lesson? Ya still bloody complain...

Now if you want to talk Fugly? Lets talk 'busa or b'king....:sick:

avgas
1st November 2013, 00:19
Makes me wonder what I should expect in 30 years from now.
If its predecessor was any indication. Things look good....
http://www.returnofthecaferacers.com/2013/02/spin-cycle-industries-yamaha-xs850.html

http://www.customfighters.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38795
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BMWST?
2nd November 2013, 18:20
Makes me wonder what I should expect in 30 years from now.
If its predecessor was any indication. Things look good....
http://www.returnofthecaferacers.com/2013/02/spin-cycle-industries-yamaha-xs850.html

http://www.customfighters.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38795


the xs 850 was ugly compared to its xs750 forebear and those bikes are no better(imho)

James Deuce
2nd November 2013, 20:40
Not as ugly as the latest Street Triple, and not as Transformish as a Z800. Nor is it likely to be as hideously fraught with potentially fatal idiosyncrasies as a Brutale 800.

avgas
3rd November 2013, 02:11
the xs 850 was ugly compared to its xs750 forebear and those bikes are no better(imho)
They were the same bike.
I believe you are being confused with the XS850 special - which was a cruiser.

80' XS750 and 80' XS850 was same bike only difference was the engine. You can take the engine out of one and it slips into the other. Hell half the parts on the engine were interchangeable. Was no super-sports......but you got the 1100 for that. But all 3 bikes weighed a ton.

The special was a pig. But at the time would have been pretty cool because it was a cruiser that did 180. Dunno - if you like cruisers (I'm not really a fan).

Drew
3rd November 2013, 08:55
They were the same bike.
I believe you are being confused with the XS850 special - which was a cruiser.

80' XS750 and 80' XS850 was same bike only difference was the engine. You can take the engine out of one and it slips into the other. Hell half the parts on the engine were interchangeable. Was no super-sports......but you got the 1100 for that. But all 3 bikes weighed a ton.

The special was a pig. But at the time would have been pretty cool because it was a cruiser that did 180. Dunno - if you like cruisers (I'm not really a fan).More than half the engine. I got given one of each out of an old farm shed once.

One of them was beyond getting running, but used loads of engine parts to make one runner. I wish I had kept them, would have made a sweet bobber.

avgas
3rd November 2013, 09:58
More than half the engine. I got given one of each out of an old farm shed once.

One of them was beyond getting running, but used loads of engine parts to make one runner. I wish I had kept them, would have made a sweet bobber.
I have about half a doz sitting in a shed (various levels of disrepair) that my old man wants to pawn off to me. He even has some factory sealed NEW Yamaha parts (gaskets and the like).

I told him to hang on to em - when he retires I will give him a hand.

He told me his 3TA is the retirement plan :lol:

Crasherfromwayback
5th November 2013, 09:59
It's lil brother looks like a goodin too!

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/11/yamaha-introduces-mt-07-lightweight-affordable-689cc-twin/

actungbaby
5th November 2013, 10:47
It's lil brother looks like a goodin too!

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/11/yamaha-introduces-mt-07-lightweight-affordable-689cc-twin/

yes it does think like the tripple though for the sound

AllanB
5th November 2013, 20:16
Motard version just shown at some shown on the other side of the world. Suspect it is the same with different plastics/seat?

Japan awakening finally?

nzspokes
5th November 2013, 20:28
Motard version just shown at some shown on the other side of the world. Suspect it is the same with different plastics/seat?

Japan awakening finally?

I reckon that looks stupid. Stock one is better looking.

AllanB
5th November 2013, 20:49
I reckon that looks stupid. Stock one is better looking.

LOL agree - take bits off not add more on!

How long before they bring out a 1200? ...............

BMWST?
16th November 2013, 09:21
They were the same bike.
I believe you are being confused with the XS850 special - which was a cruiser.

80' XS750 and 80' XS850 was same bike only difference was the engine. You can take the engine out of one and it slips into the other. Hell half the parts on the engine were interchangeable. Was no super-sports......but you got the 1100 for that. But all 3 bikes weighed a ton.

The special was a pig. But at the time would have been pretty cool because it was a cruiser that did 180. Dunno - if you like cruisers (I'm not really a fan).

they looked quite different,and the dynamics were different somehow.I had an xs750e,and so did my mate.When he got an xs850 we both agreed the 750 was nicer.I had alreaady graduated to a cb900 by then,ours were both silver and maroon.just looked at some google images....they are very similar much more so than my recollection suggested


http://www.advrider.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=265975&stc=1&d=1305834232

http://www.classic-auctions.com/Images/Report/112B/44857.jpg

AllanB
16th November 2013, 12:05
The new Yammy is getting rave reviews in the magazines. For what that's worth.

nzspokes
16th November 2013, 14:20
The new Yammy is getting rave reviews in the magazines. For what that's worth.

Guess they would get rave reviews when Yammy is paying for advertising.

Drew
16th November 2013, 14:51
Guess they would get rave reviews when Yammy is paying for advertising.

Yip. People I know raving about it, would mean something to me.

Mind you, it's not likely to be terrible. Underwhelming is about as bad as modern bikes get from the good manufacturers... Is that the new terrible, I wonder?

nzspokes
16th November 2013, 15:26
Yip. People I know raving about it, would mean something to me.

Mind you, it's not likely to be terrible. Underwhelming is about as bad as modern bikes get from the good manufacturers... Is that the new terrible, I wonder?

I ask, is it $10k better than what I have?

10k buys a lot of Rum.

BMWST?
16th November 2013, 17:12
I ask, is it $10k better than what I have?

10k buys a lot of Rum.


thats a silly argument.any new bike is going to be much more $$ than the bike you have,not just a yamaha triple...if i was going to buy a new version of my bike the price difference would be more like 30k

Drew
16th November 2013, 17:45
I ask, is it $10k better than what I have?

10k buys a lot of Rum.It's the same bike more or less. Upright touring type thing, with a hint of hooligan thrown in. I bet the Ho'net does the hooligan bit better, so stick with what you've got.

MD
18th November 2013, 21:19
Apparently they are here. A mate stopped to chat to a proud new owner yesterday. Said he got it from Maidstone Yammy in Upper Hutt. I thought they were just dirt bikes. Owner was happy as with it.

Looking forward to seeing one myself. At $14k on the road it's a good deal, a steal, the bargain of the bloody century. Shouldn't take long at that price before I spot one on the road . Bike UK mag out this week has a very favourable review.

actungbaby
19th November 2013, 19:49
Apparently they are here. A mate stopped to chat to a proud new owner yesterday. Said he got it from Maidstone Yammy in Upper Hutt. I thought they were just dirt bikes. Owner was happy as with it.

Looking forward to seeing one myself. At $14k on the road it's a good deal, a steal, the bargain of the bloody century. Shouldn't take long at that price before I spot one on the road . Bike UK mag out this week has a very favourable review.

I rekon only thing read where front is a tad vague that put me of a bit .

But i rekon with looks well after ride the thing if you love it it looks alot better doesint it.

I used to think my old gs 450 looked great and sounded like a duke hehe

Must been in the eye of the beerholder

Drew
19th November 2013, 20:38
Apparently they are here. A mate stopped to chat to a proud new owner yesterday. Said he got it from Maidstone Yammy in Upper Hutt. I thought they were just dirt bikes. Owner was happy as with it.

Looking forward to seeing one myself. At $14k on the road it's a good deal, a steal, the bargain of the bloody century. Shouldn't take long at that price before I spot one on the road . Bike UK mag out this week has a very favourable review.
Maidstone Yamaha are the only Wellington Yammy dealer aren't they. Prolly getting a good consignment deal to stock some road bikes.

They've had the 850 for at least a month. Was there when we went and got some oil...to use up a voucher Al had won some place.

avgas
20th November 2013, 04:57
they looked quite different,and the dynamics were different somehow.I had an xs750e,and so did my mate.When he got an xs850 we both agreed the 750 was nicer.I had alreaady graduated to a cb900 by then,ours were both silver and maroon.just looked at some google images....they are very similar much more so than my recollection suggested
Nicer in what way?
Only problem I found with the stock 850 (in comparison to the 750) was the exhaust was chunkier and heavier, but was also higher. Most people swapped it for a complete 3 into 1. (Can't remember who made the best one - but wasn't Moriwaki).

I found the 750 was nice......but underpowered. 2-up you were always having to give the beans to get up and go. But in saying that - you certainly noticed the 850's extra few KG's when you hit a corner. I can see why people preferred the 750 and even the twin when it came to weight.

on that note......click the link if you don't mind seeing a graveyard.
http://farrst.blogspot.com/2010/03/80s-yamaha-love.html

BMWST?
20th November 2013, 17:26
Nicer in what way?
Only problem I found with the stock 850 (in comparison to the 750) was the exhaust was chunkier and heavier, but was also higher. Most people swapped it for a complete 3 into 1. (Can't remember who made the best one - but wasn't Moriwaki).

I found the 750 was nice......but underpowered. 2-up you were always having to give the beans to get up and go. But in saying that - you certainly noticed the 850's extra few KG's when you hit a corner. I can see why people preferred the 750 and even the twin when it came to weight.

on that note......click the link if you don't mind seeing a graveyard.
http://farrst.blogspot.com/2010/03/80s-yamaha-love.html

I never thought my 750e was underpowered tho I beleive the e was quite abit more powerful than the d models.
My 750 just felt a whole lot smoother and nicer than his 850

Larksea
10th February 2014, 09:33
I like it, good on paper. As far as looks go Im not too keen on the headlights on the Yanmaha bikes like this and the handlebars seem kinda detached from the front end. I wonder what this bike would look like with custom bars and headlight :facepalm:

BigAl
16th February 2014, 12:22
Took an mt09 out in the weekend.

Good bits: The motor is a stonker, great torque and power right through to 11k redline.
Nice narrow tank and easy to grip with knees.
Top gear is high, around 4k at 100k maybe could add a couple of teeth on rear to give it even more acceleration.
Bars high which is great in traffic and would be an awesome commuter.
Small instrument cluster was surprisingly easy to read even in bright sunlight and includes gear indicator.
Looks even better with the fly screen which seems to deflect enough wind to belt it along.
$1k less than std street triple.

Bad bits:
Front end was very twitchy, maybe because of the power and also turned in real quick. You'd need to spend a bit of time and maybe $$ to sort. I'd at least put a steering damper on.
Seat was as comfortable as a ducatis, so maybe a bit hard for some.
Exhaust is all one piece, so can't just put a can on.
Lacks character over some of the competition.

In summary, for $14k and if you do a lot of commuting, motorway riding and even a bit of touring it is certainly worth a look.

angle
16th February 2014, 17:18
Took an mt09 out in the weekend.
Where did you get it from? I presume it was a demonstrator.


Exhaust is all one piece, so can't just put a can on.
Now that's going to cost a fair bit...


Lacks character over some of the competition.
What exactly do you mean? Can you give some examples?

BigAl
16th February 2014, 18:01
Where did you get it from? I presume it was a demonstrator.

Now that's going to cost a fair bit...

What exactly do you mean? Can you give some examples?

Yeah demo from Bayride, re character say compared to Brutale, street triple, monster etc...

AllanB
16th February 2014, 20:16
Exhaust will not be a issue for the aftermarket - the SV650 was like that - heaps running pipes.

gammaguy
16th February 2014, 22:06
i think it should look like this



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zAKg3PzsWck/UvC1o3fOmaI/AAAAAAAABVM/Ykuwm7AE9v0/s1600/YAMAHA+MT+07+STREET+RACER+CONCEPT.jpg

AllanB
17th February 2014, 19:03
Yeepers - they would sell a million. Very cool.

nzspokes
17th February 2014, 20:10
Looks like there racing em....

BigAl
17th February 2014, 20:26
Wow both of those look very cool.

GrayWolf
18th February 2014, 15:48
Took an mt09 out in the weekend.

Good bits: The motor is a stonker, great torque and power right through to 11k redline.
Nice narrow tank and easy to grip with knees.
Top gear is high, around 4k at 100k maybe could add a couple of teeth on rear to give it even more acceleration.
Bars high which is great in traffic and would be an awesome commuter.
Small instrument cluster was surprisingly easy to read even in bright sunlight and includes gear indicator.
Looks even better with the fly screen which seems to deflect enough wind to belt it along.
$1k less than std street triple.

Bad bits:
Front end was very twitchy, maybe because of the power and also turned in real quick. You'd need to spend a bit of time and maybe $$ to sort. I'd at least put a steering damper on.
Seat was as comfortable as a ducatis, so maybe a bit hard for some.
Exhaust is all one piece, so can't just put a can on.
Lacks character over some of the competition.

In summary, for $14k and if you do a lot of commuting, motorway riding and even a bit of touring it is certainly worth a look.

it's amusing, give a bike an 11k redline, and a fair amount of torque? And you (riders) love it, take the original, with SHITLOADS of torque, (more than a 'busa till the last upgrade) and several who rode it hated it as 'no rev's'.... (5.5k redline). The MT's are about torque not top end performance. However ridden smoothly (not point, squirt. scream up the gears, slam on brakes, crash down the box, and off again after the apex) and using the top gears and allow the motor to do the work, any of the MT's are quite competent through sweepers and back road twisties.
The character that the 01 has was the very same character that got slated by crotch rocket riders. So now Yamaha has produced a high revving version? It has no character. :brick:
The Mt's character IS in the ease of use, torque and relaxed riding, yet still able to proceed at a fair quickosity.

The diving in on corners?
The MT-01 had a similar issue.. soft forks and tucks under VERY noticeably on fast roundabouts... progressive springs, and/or KSS fork jobby makes a massive difference! :cool: Although the angle doesnt look as steep as the MT-01 has.

BigAl
18th February 2014, 18:23
Actually that is another matter that is confusing.
Why is it labelled MT-09 here in enzed whereas it is called an FZ-09 in the States?
It is more related to a FZ8 than an MT01/06

AllanB
18th February 2014, 19:37
Actually that is another matter that is confusing.
Why is it labelled MT-09 here in enzed whereas it is called an FZ-09 in the States?
It is more related to a FZ8 than an MT01/06

Be marketing as the FZ prefix has been in the states for years.

raziel1983
11th March 2014, 21:20
So apparently Yamaha has applied for a trademark on the name FJ09, I wonder what that could be...?

Look out Z1000sx & VFR800 :banana:

Drew
12th March 2014, 16:26
So apparently Yamaha has applied for a trademark on the name FJ09, I wonder what that could be...?

Look out Z1000sx & VFR800 :banana:Dunno about the Z, but the VFR sets the bar pretty high...And the only thing that has over the Gixxer sem-fiddy is comfort, which is a small price to pay for that kind of performance.

To sum up, this FJ09 needs to be a metric shit ton better than the current all rounders on offer from Yamaha.

raziel1983
14th March 2014, 11:35
Well the gsxr750 is great i'm sure but not ideal when you start talking about 2up or luggage capacity, However I do agree with your 2nd statement!

Drew
14th March 2014, 15:24
Well the gsxr750 is great i'm sure but not ideal when you start talking about 2up or luggage capacity, However I do agree with your 2nd statement!I'm told Givi do a solid system for teh Gixxer, though I would be very...ummm...critical if I ever saw one wearing it. But yeah, it's not comfy as a tourer for the passenger.

rocketman1
14th March 2014, 15:30
Here ya go...

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/06/yamaha-unveils-2014-fz-09-850-triple/

Looks good, any idea on price NZ

Drew
14th March 2014, 15:38
Just had a look at the pics again.

No allowance for swingarm bobbins, and a stupid swingarm that looks like it's straight from Bolognia as a 749 leftover that can't have a cradle style paddock stand.

Dumb.

Crasherfromwayback
14th March 2014, 15:51
Looks good, any idea on price NZ

Wouldn't have a clue sorry mate. We're Suzuki and Harley here.

Drew
14th March 2014, 18:20
Wouldn't have a clue sorry mate. We're Suzuki and Harley here.Soooooo, traded any tidy K5 thous lately?

I want a proper all rounder, and since I can't afford a K1/2 and a K5/6 I'll have to make do with just a K5/6...Unless you have a black/blue/silver K2 of course.

Crasherfromwayback
15th March 2014, 08:10
Soooooo, traded any tidy K5 thous lately?

I want a proper all rounder, and since I can't afford a K1/2 and a K5/6 I'll have to make do with just a K5/6...Unless you have a black/blue/silver K2 of course.

Sorry mate. What about a nice 750 L0?

AllanB
15th March 2014, 09:18
Just had a look at the pics again.

No allowance for swingarm bobbins, and a stupid swingarm that looks like it's straight from Bolognia as a 749 leftover that can't have a cradle style paddock stand.

Dumb.

Look again - the swingarm is designed to allow room for the under engine exhaust. Smart. May be a threaded hole for bobbins ...... probably not though!

pritch
15th March 2014, 09:52
The MT09 has received favourable comments in the magazines. The suspension is considered too soft by some testers. Other testers say that in those instances the bike is being ridden too hard, it's not intended to be a track weapon. The price in Britain is surprisingly low at 6,932 quid as opposed to 7,349 for a Street Triple. Unfortunately there's a history of NZ importers ignoring the intended pricing and charging the maximum they think the market will bear. Plus a bit?

The newer MT07 698cc parallel twin (270 degrees firing) is similarly competitively priced, 5,332 pounds and has slightly firmer suspenders, but is still rated "plush". The tester comments that in Britain riders are used to sports bikes and their firm suspension. BIKE were impressed, they say the MT07 is better than any of the obvious competitiors and should also be considered against pricier options such as the KTM 690 Duke and the Street Triple.

raziel1983
15th March 2014, 10:40
Looks good, any idea on price NZ

Available at Yamaha dealerships across New Zealand now for just $13,999.

From Yamihahas website.

pritch
15th March 2014, 11:31
Available at Yamaha dealerships across New Zealand now for just $13,999.

From Yamihahas website.

That is encouraging.

AllanB
15th March 2014, 11:36
Suspenders may be improved on version 2.

But for $14k stop ya moaning.

Same price is a Bandit 1250, GSR750, V Strom 650, (Burgmans are over $17k!) ER6n is $12k, Z800 $16, w800 $14 etc etc

Rcktfsh
15th March 2014, 15:14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UwY20dPlGs&list=UUNdAE_YXk3VPx0HPcMdUa7w

Link to Bike Rider test on youtube, big but encouraging call to suggest it brings back the fun factor of the RD's. The new MT07 sounds like a great bike for a one make class.

nzspokes
15th March 2014, 15:22
Sorry mate. What about a nice 750 L0?

Oh, I would love one. Thats where im heading next I think. Was thinking something with a pillion seat but that may be off the table now. Is there much different between the LO and the current ones?

Drew
15th March 2014, 15:47
Sorry mate. What about a nice 750 L0?Not really my thing. I've ridden one, and it was bloody fantastic! I mean, out of this world performance.:yes: Swantz said it best. "The fastest 600 I've ever ridden".

But I'm an egotist. Everyone knows it. I am capable of extracting enough from the thou, enough to stay in front of anyone I know on the 750. Ergo, I have to have the thou.

Yes, that's very childish. I don't care!


Oh, I would love one. Thats where im heading next I think. Was thinking something with a pillion seat but that may be off the table now. Is there much different between the LO and the current ones?Been a while since the semfiddy had a serious upgrade to my knowledge. But it's SOOOOOOO fucken good and the competition so limited, that it hasn't needed one.

Crasherfromwayback
17th March 2014, 14:38
Oh, I would love one. Thats where im heading next I think. Was thinking something with a pillion seat but that may be off the table now. Is there much different between the LO and the current ones?


Not really my thing. I've ridden one, and it was bloody fantastic! I mean, out of this world performance.:yes: Swantz said it best. "The fastest 600 I've ever ridden".

But I'm an egotist. Everyone knows it. I am capable of extracting enough from the thou, enough to stay in front of anyone I know on the 750. Ergo, I have to have the thou.

Yes, that's very childish. I don't care!

Been a while since the semfiddy had a serious upgrade to my knowledge. But it's SOOOOOOO fucken good and the competition so limited, that it hasn't needed one.

Have to agree with you.

Pussy
23rd March 2014, 10:29
Saw an MT 09 in the flesh yesterday. I like it!

george formby
23rd March 2014, 12:38
After a squizz at some reviews on youtube & the almost unanimous comments of fun & bargain I can't help but think that there are "R" versions waiting in the wings once the budget bikes get established. Riders with a few extra $$ will go for something a bit more pointy at the mo, but higher specced models could catch them, too.
Just a thought. The tea & crumpets could have gone to my head.

nzspokes
23rd March 2014, 15:22
Below is a review of an owner of one in the US from a Hornet site (919)

It kind of sucks.
Seat is super hard, to low for the bars & the seat cut out is to far forward for someone 6'3"
I wanna sit right where the intersection for the pillar is.
The bars are way to high & to close. I wanna corner on top of it instead of under it.
Feels like a Motard & that's how I wanna ride it.
Being that the bars are so high the seat angle need to be flatter, I am sliding into the tank when I sit upright & sitting perpendicular to the seat angle, I'm way to close to the bars.
The bars are aluminum taper style bars but real thin, lots of vibration.
The knee cutout on the tank is not quite right, I can't feel one with the bike. I pinch my knees & it's just not there. I can't lock in like on the 919.
The suspension is horrid, way to soft & bouncy for sport riding. good on the freeway though. fairly smooth at stock settings But rough when you crank it up for rebound control but it lacks compression & the valving is soft.
The brakes need improving as well. Good for general riding but don't late brake it.
It's a bit twitchy as well, not very planted. I'm working on that.

But.... Its cheap.
The motor makes good Power & Torque, I can't knock it there.
When you twist it your at a 100 with little effort. It torques up quick.
I average 42 MPG but with a 3 gal tank I'm still at 120 miles between fill ups.
I do like the instrument panel, It has an average for MPG & real time MPG. It also clears itself when going into reserve & counts up the miles you have ridden on reserve.
The mode button is cool too, mellow power for commuting & sporty power for fun.
Good headlight.
It has potential for a fun street fighter.
I had to install a set screw & lock nut to keep the Timing Chain tension
from coming loose.
I also had to make a new "bent" rod to get "GP" shifting out of it. No easy flip & go.
I have been tweaking it for a few days & it's getting better for me.
I got it mainly for a commuter so I can rebuild my 919 motor & get the bike back into shape. I've abused it. So sad...
I feel A good set of lower bars & a raised, more comfortable seat will make it more of a keeper.
Outside of that,I suppose its OK.
I might sell it in a few years for something better. I don't want to put any money into it, at least none that I absolutely don't have to.

george formby
23rd March 2014, 15:38
That person contradicts themselves quite a lot.

nzspokes
23rd March 2014, 16:03
That person contradicts themselves quite a lot.

Looks to be a random collection of thoughts on it. Guy has a tricked out Honda 919.

george formby
23rd March 2014, 16:14
Looks to be a random collection of thoughts on it. Guy has a tricked out Honda 919.

Yup.
I do like me Yamahas, a lot of the criticism bandied at the MT 09 was said about my TDM when it came it out. But it's real world practical and fun. If the MT09's have the same reliability they should be a winner.
The tell tale will be how many sell in Europe. Very sensible those Y'erpeans, know a good thing when they see it.

RuoskaNZ
27th March 2014, 16:49
Test rode the mt09, bloody loved it. Looks brilliant and feels great but couldn't get past that throttle :(

Sent from my GT-I8190T using Tapatalk

AllanB
27th March 2014, 19:39
Americans ........... read that shit why did he bother buying it? You can pick up a mint low mile 919 for fuck all over there so 'rebuilding my abused engine' is just silly ....... I personally would totally ignore his comments.

Larksea
31st March 2014, 08:29
had a look at one over the weekend as a potential option in anticipation of getting my full in a couple of weeks.

looks a great bike actually better in the buff than in pics and vids. I liked the look of the seat but when actually sitting on it I was shocked how uncomfortable it was for me, like it made me want to sit forward and it was too narrow.

Still going to test ride one when I get my full ready to get a proper bike. but the seat may be an issue, the range as well I'd really like something that can do 350km. So I can ride from Auckland to the coromandel or hamilton and back on a tank.

MD
9th May 2014, 15:58
I finally laid eyes on one of these MT09s in the commute home last night.

Only a brief glimpse and as they say first impressions are important, it which case it made a good impression. Looked sleek and comfy and unlike some failed jap designs of late, the modern styling gets a tick for passed. It had a sort of brown/orange coloured tank which I thought was quite a nice colour. If I had been on my bike I would have tailed him for a better squiz.

Surprised there aren't more on our roads at that price by now.

EJK
9th May 2014, 16:42
Hmmm.... This or Street triple... But then the triple is a couple of grands more. Again, with Akrapovic titanium on MT09 will even the cost so... :confused:

James Deuce
9th May 2014, 16:45
So get the MT-09. Dare to be Different! Because You're Worth It! Avon calling!

BigAl
9th May 2014, 18:10
Hmmm.... This or Street triple... But then the triple is a couple of grands more. Again, with Akrapovic titanium on MT09 will even the cost so... :confused:

Speed triple r is my choice after riding both virtually back to back.

You'd need to spend a couple of k on the mt09, so that makes up a lot of the price difference.

James Deuce
9th May 2014, 18:12
Street Triple R, shirley!? Speed Triple R is much more expensive than an MT-09. Everyone has a Street Triple, common as nipples. Get an MT-09 EJK! Don't make me put my size 14 stilettos on and march up there!

AllanB
9th May 2014, 19:12
You'd need to spend a couple of k on the mt09, so that makes up a lot of the price difference.

Presumably on suspenders? After spending that on the 09 it may be closer to the ST's basic rrp BUT will now have superior bouncy bits thus still cheap when compared to the more equivalent STR.

The Trumpy will hold it's resale over a Yammy though when selling or trading. However the spiffy suspenders you paid extra for on the 09 could be swapped back to standard and sold to recoup some coin.

Or win lotto and buy a MV800 ........

EJK
9th May 2014, 19:27
I'd test ride them both and see! But for now my perception for both are neck and neck.

James Deuce
9th May 2014, 19:50
Presumably on suspenders? After spending that on the 09 it may be closer to the ST's basic rrp BUT will now have superior bouncy bits thus still cheap when compared to the more equivalent STR.

The Trumpy will hold it's resale over a Yammy though when selling or trading. However the spiffy suspenders you paid extra for on the 09 could be swapped back to standard and sold to recoup some coin.

Or win lotto and buy a MV800 ........

The suspenders on the MT-09 are vastly better than anything that cheap that I've ever ridden. The ST-R still has a soggy rear end by my reckoning with too much initial travel. The MT-09 does a weird glide over rough surfaces, almost like a BMW GS, but without feeling floaty. The only "bad" thing about is the really abrupt throttle in sport mode.

BigAl
10th May 2014, 15:02
The suspenders on the MT-09 are vastly better than anything that cheap that I've ever ridden. The ST-R still has a soggy rear end by my reckoning with too much initial travel. The MT-09 does a weird glide over rough surfaces, almost like a BMW GS, but without feeling floaty. The only "bad" thing about is the really abrupt throttle in sport mode.

Also the front suspension on the mt09 needs immediate attention, way bouncy.

2 out of the three fuel maps are way too sensitive. Hopefully all will be addressed in a revised version.

jellywrestler
10th May 2014, 15:33
The only "bad" thing about is the really abrupt throttle in sport mode. well switch it to another mode, and you can remap them to suit yourself. hows it a bad thing when it's the easiest thing to change on the whole bike?

MD
10th May 2014, 20:43
well switch it to another mode, and you can remap them to suit yourself. hows it a bad thing when it's the easiest thing to change on the whole bike?

Yep. Minor complaint. My MV has just received the latest full free software replacement and from first impressions it's great. This MT09 might become a significant model simply because it has re-introduced a long lost concept 'bikes can be a cheap form of FUN transport' . Something lacking in the industry for quite some time.

BMWST?
11th May 2014, 11:42
Mmmmm,must find a yammy dealer

GingerMidget
11th May 2014, 12:08
Looked at the pictures and went holy crap. That seat height isn't too bad either.

God I wish I wasn't poor right now.

MD
14th May 2014, 17:51
Mmmmm,must find a yammy dealer
I popped in to Maidstone Yamaha in Upper Hutt today for some MT09 tyre kicking. Comfy to sit on. Felt very light (had no fluids or battery yet). I wouldn't bother changing the exhaust as the standard looks horn.
A LOT of bike for $13,999

Drawback for me would still be the piddly tank

SPman
14th May 2014, 18:18
Only a brief glimpse and as they say first impressions are important, it which case it made a good impression. Looked sleek and comfy and unlike some failed jap designs of late, the modern styling gets a tick for passed. ..
.
As our local Yam dealer also has a showroom full of Bennellis, Bimotas and Buells, it looks rather conservative main stream.....

"D" FZ1
29th May 2014, 15:26
We have got a MT-09 Demo at Motorcycle Central Yamaha. Auckland's New Yamaha Dealer.
(Under Cycletreads in Barrys Point Road) Come and ride it and make your own mind up. We have sold about 10 of them over the last couple of months.
We are now a Yoshimura Importer and can supply a Full Stainless System for $1500.00 or with a Carbon can for $1600.00.

"D" FZ1
19th June 2014, 16:14
MT-09 Yoshi

AllanB
19th June 2014, 19:44
MT-09 Yoshi

Full system? mmmmm Yoshi

Larksea
10th July 2014, 15:56
fun bike, really enjoyed the test ride and probably would have got one if I did not manage to get a new M696 even less than a new MT-09

could not believe how easy it was to get the front wheel airborne, this bike is not for the fainthearted.

Seat was not as comfortable as I thought it would be when I first saw it.
as many say the suspension is a bit soft in stock settings. The dealer recommended changing out the oil. I'm not an experienced rider and it made me uneasy how squishy the front end was under braking.
the engine is an absolute peach
bit thirsty, only gets ~17km/L of fuel according to fuelly, I really wanted to a bike that would get over 20. I get about 22km/L

remembered another thing that got me, the leg cutouts were not quire right and with feet down there was something sticking out the right hand side that kinda kept getting in the way. Prob something you would get used to if you owned one.

Blackbird
10th July 2014, 17:19
Got to say that it's a sexy looking beast all right, nicer than the Street Triple in my eyes. Choosing a bike really is a case of "fitness for purpose" though. I live out in the wop-wops and having a decent tank range is important. I'm also a bit of a short arse at 5'8" so seat height is also important. Weight is another factor as I'm 67 this year. Pillion not a consideration. When I sold the Blackbird, the factors I listed above pointed me to a Street Triple. Nearly 300 km range if you're not caning it, never much less than 250 km if you are. Seat height 800, weight around 170 kg. After 55,000 km I've had a rectifier replaced as part of a general Triumph recall and 2 mirror stalks which rusted also replaced under warranty. OEM rear shock will be replaced with a quality one this year. I've never done it before but it fits my needs so well that its replacement will probably be another Street Triple..... a pretty fair endorsement :niceone:

Pussy
12th July 2014, 14:04
A LOT of bike for $13,999

Drawback for me would still be the piddly tank

My sentiments exactly. Suspension easy enough to get sorted... bigger tank not quite so easy...

mattian
31st July 2014, 10:12
That instrument panel looks awful and what's with the huge radiator?

I know. It just wouldnt compliment your perm at all.

george formby
27th September 2014, 21:55
I'm sold. A few dollars here, a few dollars there. Oh, it's in French.

http://youtu.be/JvQAHA1PNK4

Shadowjack
28th September 2014, 10:52
Well, that was interesting - slap on a different set of tyres, call me Cyril, and away we go.
Not to be picky, didn't see a fishing rod holder, but...

On a different note, just a bit annoyed we don't seem to be getting the phull-phat MT07. Maybe I should hang on the the TDM to see what Yamaha-san comes up with over the year or two.

george formby
28th September 2014, 11:39
Well, that was interesting - slap on a different set of tyres, call me Cyril, and away we go.
Not to be picky, didn't see a fishing rod holder, but...

On a different note, just a bit annoyed we don't seem to be getting the phull-phat MT07. Maybe I should hang on the the TDM to see what Yamaha-san comes up with over the year or two.

Concur.

I know those French chaps can ride and have a penchant for doing odd things but that bike seemed very capable. Not parlezing the lingo I'm not sure what all the upgrades were on one of them. Not sure about the albinio mono brow either..
Good time of year for Troots.

Shadowjack
28th September 2014, 12:22
Bloke I know went for test ride on the MT07 - said it was fine, didn't feel short of anything on the ride, but there was the odd knowledge that the bike could have been/is something else.
Yes - daylight savings, a new fishing licence, and a stream at the bottom of the garden.
Just have to locate the fishing gear after the escape to the country. It's here, somewhere...

Bruce Lee
26th February 2015, 20:30
Any other MT09 riders out there? Had mine for a month now and loving it much.

george formby
26th February 2015, 22:19
Any other MT09 riders out there? Had mine for a month now and loving it much.

Not moi. I'm eagerly awaiting to see how the Tracer does on NZ roads. Judging by over seas reviews it's rather perky.

Does your MT09 wheelie MR?

Bruce Lee
27th February 2015, 12:22
Not moi. I'm eagerly awaiting to see how the Tracer does on NZ roads. Judging by over seas reviews it's rather perky.

Does your MT09 wheelie MR?

The two gripes with the MT09 from reviews are the front suspension and fuel mapping, both which are easily fixed.
Prior to taking delivery the dealer tightened up the forks and installed the new fuel map to fix the snatchy throttle so no complaints from me.

As for wheelies, I'm too chicken shit :)

MD
27th February 2015, 13:11
The Tracer has caught my eye.

It's had some positive reviews online and for those of us..how do I put it, maturing, practicalities like a screen, adjustable even, upright comfortable seating, decent tank range and hard laggage all appeal big time.

The Tracer screen looks a bit small to do much though and the luggage looks like it's mounted too far out from the bike. Like out riggers on a canoe.

BMWST?
28th February 2015, 11:47
14 l tank? whats the range?

James Deuce
28th February 2015, 21:09
14 l tank? whats the range?

It does the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs.

BMWST?
28th February 2015, 21:42
It does the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs.

i am not conversant with those relativities

george formby
28th February 2015, 21:54
As for wheelies, I'm too chicken shit :)

:baby: Ditto.
I must admit to wanting a shot of the Yamaha triple. My best biking memories are all on Yammies.

pritch
1st March 2015, 12:47
14 l tank? whats the range?

I thought the Tracer had a bigger tank, 17L? I liked the idea of the bike, but it also has longer suspension travel and thus a higher seat height. Too high for me.


OK so I looked up the specs, tank capacity is 18L. Seat height isn't as bad as I was led to believe either. If the seat is adjustable it can be adjusted down to 815mm which is 20mm less than the Triumph

AllanB
1st March 2015, 15:38
This one is funny - in French again but you can get the jist. 4.30 is the best .......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfga5-FEdI8

Erelyes
1st March 2015, 18:44
This one is funny - in French again but you can get the jist. 4.30 is the best .......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfga5-FEdI8

The English translation of the closed captions was pretty funny.

309513

NZsarge
8th March 2015, 10:58
The Tracer looks money, by rights it should be pretty popular

Pickle
17th March 2015, 13:44
Any other MT09 riders out there? Had mine for a month now and loving it much.

Yep 2015 Model with Full Akropovic, always runs in A mode, suspension isn't as bad as some make out & as for the snatchy throttle its only when trying to go slow - simple fix go harder, as for wheelies Yep 1st, 2nd & 3rd gear easy as

george formby
17th March 2015, 22:52
The Tracer looks money, by rights it should be pretty popular

Apparently it's flying out the door in the UK & Yerp. I heard verbatim recently that a Yamaha dealer in the UK has run out of floor space for trade in's, he has sold so many MT09's / Tracers. More Tracers. The MT 07 has caught my eye recently. 180kg dripping wet, torquey, 75hp... Perfick for my sub 100kmh twisties.

MD
18th March 2015, 09:44
The Tracer looks money, by rights it should be pretty popular

This Bloke sure knows how to enjoy the Tracer. About time a manufacturer made a bike specifically for wheelies. What a good corporate citizen Yamaha are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjzH470emmo

NZsarge
18th March 2015, 10:13
This Bloke sure knows how to enjoy the Tracer. About time a manufacturer made a bike specifically for wheelies. What a good corporate citizen Yamaha are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjzH470emmo

Completely irresponsible obviously but very skilled.. :lol:

roogazza
18th March 2015, 11:59
This Bloke sure knows how to enjoy the Tracer. About time a manufacturer made a bike specifically for wheelies. What a good corporate citizen Yamaha are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjzH470emmo

Better change the avatar for a nice green one MD.
Look forward to seeing your nu bike.

Drew
18th March 2015, 14:05
Completely irresponsible obviously but very skilled.. :lol:

He's keen, but ya might wanna watch MD do a mono before ya call the video chap 'skilled'.

nzspokes
18th March 2015, 17:24
Completely irresponsible obviously but very skilled.. :lol:

I do like the handguards.

NZsarge
18th March 2015, 17:40
He's keen, but ya might wanna watch MD do a mono before ya call the video chap 'skilled'.

I can't do mono's so trust me, for me this guy IS skilled.

MD
8th January 2017, 16:24
$14,599 for a brand new three cylinder 850cc road bike. Bollocks, never happen. WTF, is has.
This has to be the deal of the year, the steal of the year.

I musts say this MT 09 has caught my interest. I like the black one with the accessories; small screen, hand guards and comfy seat. Just throw in the semi hard luggage and away you go. The Yamaha panniers fitted to the earlier MT09, so I assume they will to this slimmer revamped rear end. The sharper looks are cool, the techy improvements sound like YammiHaa actually listen to their customers and even better, they respond quickly.

First Reviews are promising.


http://www.visordown.com/road-tests-first-rides/first-ride-2017-yamaha-mt-09-review

skippa1
9th January 2017, 08:23
$14,599 for a brand new three cylinder 850cc road bike. Bollocks, never happen. WTF, is has.
This has to be the deal of the year, the steal of the year.

I musts say this MT 09 has caught my interest. I like the black one with the accessories; small screen, hand guards and comfy seat. Just throw in the semi hard luggage and away you go. The Yamaha panniers fitted to the earlier MT09, so I assume they will to this slimmer revamped rear end. The sharper looks are cool, the techy improvements sound like YammiHaa actually listen to their customers and even better, they respond quickly.

First Reviews are promising
Agreed....the MT10 looks awesome too. Crossplane engine with the nice noise, all the electrikery and less than $20k. Bloody bargins
http://www.yamaha-motor.co.nz/products/motorcycle/road/torque-sport/17-mt-10-1

nadroj
9th January 2017, 17:26
11,000km in 11 months on mine. Lots of extra's available on e-bay etc. Great all round bike - good for a hoon, then fit supplied panniers for a trip. Good handling with potential for better with Nitron or Ohlins / Andreani, excellent brakes + you can turn off traction control for wheelies.