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SPman
20th August 2005, 19:38
"And he did sup upon the Gixxers abundant torque, yay even unto the inital 6000 run in limit and did perform downhill wheelies and multitudinous nefarious and illegal manouvers.
And it was good!"

OK - initial impressions 600ks after a shaky (and slidy, graunchy) start.
Took Bess (for that is indeed what she is called) for a run north today - meaning to go to whangarei or environs - but it looked a bit wet so diverted to Mangawhai Heads, then back down SH16 (thanks to the 2 guys on the 999 and K5 750 for the tow). Thence across to Clevedon, Hunua, Bombay, back to Riverhead Rd, Silverdale, Kaukap,etc etc.
I always ease into new bikes for the first 1000 k or so, and if you are not used to modern 1000cc sportbikes and you’re an old prick like me, this is definitely a good idea. In theory, the initial 6K limit for first 500K sounds restrictive, but its not - 160K or thereabouts. Coming from 30 yrs of 750’s a change in thought patterns are in order. Riding quick is a new technique - gives slow in fast out a whole new dimension with a wave of effortless power from 2000rpm in any gear. This thing gets better as it gets faster – the suspension, which is a bit firm at around town speeds, is a lot more compliant with a bit of pace on. This bike is in its element in more open, flowing, sinuous roads like SH16. It feels planted and as you get used to it, more able to put it where you want to – I was pleasantly surprised, although I feel a bit of fiddling with the settings coming up. Comparo with the guy on the 750 – he was quicker into the corners – I was certainly quicker out and on the straighty bits!

Riding possie is not as comfy as the SP, but, the bike feels smaller and lighter and quite nimble, as you get used to it.

Bitches – don’t like the twitchy, micrometer like throttle at slow speeds. Don’t like slow, tight twisties, like Peak Rd, partly due to throttle. Tends to push the front too readily at slower speeds – could just be due to lots of thrust . . .And the 012’s leave me feeling a little underwhelmed.

DemonWolf
20th August 2005, 19:47
Sounds like ya had some fun.. Good day for it! =)

Sensei
21st August 2005, 09:06
Hey SP have some Front & back end setting's that you could try . I run them & they are good haven't changed since setting . Let me know if you would like to try them . They sort out that front end trouble you mentioned . I didn't like the 012's myself , run a M1 front & Z6 back . Enjoy & keep the bloody thing up on it's wheels when ya get the Yoshy onto it !! :Punk:

SixPackBack
21st August 2005, 09:12
Hey SP have some Front & back end setting's that you could try . I run them & they are good haven't changed since setting . Let me know if you would like to try them . They sort out that front end trouble you mentioned . I didn't like the 012's myself , run a M1 front & Z6 back . Enjoy & keep the bloody thing up on it's wheels when ya get the Yoshy onto it !! :Punk:

Dude i would'nt mind those settings. Had my suspension set up at cycletreads, and i think its a bit hard for NZ backroads, i get thrown all over the road on bumpy sections

White trash
21st August 2005, 09:22
Dude i would'nt mind those settings. Had my suspension set up at cycletreads, and i think its a bit hard for NZ backroads, i get thrown all over the road on bumpy sections

Mate, at the risk of sounding like a dig, I can't understand why the hell anyone would get someone else to set up their suspension. Everyone rides and prefers a different feel from their bike. If you need someone to help you, by all means ask someone to translate the problems you're having into the adjustments to make.

It's far more rewarding and you'll have a better idea of how your bike handles.

That's my $0.02 anyway.

SixPackBack
21st August 2005, 09:31
Mate, at the risk of sounding like a dig, I can't understand why the hell anyone would get someone else to set up their suspension. Everyone rides and prefers a different feel from their bike. If you need someone to help you, by all means ask someone to translate the problems you're having into the adjustments to make.

It's far more rewarding and you'll have a better idea of how your bike handles.

That's my $0.02 anyway.

Would love to adjust and have to agree with you.......just don't know what the fuck i'm doin......offerin help?

geoffm
21st August 2005, 12:12
Have a look at:
http://www.sportrider.com/tech/suspension/
http://www.motocross.com/motoprof/moto/mcycle/mcycle.html
http://www.factorypro.com/tech/Suspension_Setting.html
http://www.racetech.com/SubMenu.asp?cMenu=4&c=Yes&cSubMenu=9&showPage=Street
http://www.dynobike.com/motorcycle_suspension.htm
http://www.motocross.com/motoprof/moto/mcycle/mcycle.html
http://www.gostar-racing.com/information/motorcycle_suspension_set-up.htm
http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/issues/jan00/maxclub.htm

Should be something there to help you sort it
Geoff

SixPackBack
21st August 2005, 12:34
Have a look at:
http://www.sportrider.com/tech/suspension/
http://www.motocross.com/motoprof/moto/mcycle/mcycle.html
http://www.factorypro.com/tech/Suspension_Setting.html
http://www.racetech.com/SubMenu.asp?cMenu=4&c=Yes&cSubMenu=9&showPage=Street
http://www.dynobike.com/motorcycle_suspension.htm
http://www.motocross.com/motoprof/moto/mcycle/mcycle.html
http://www.gostar-racing.com/information/motorcycle_suspension_set-up.htm
http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/issues/jan00/maxclub.htm

Should be something there to help you sort it
Geoff

Thank you!

FROSTY
21st August 2005, 12:47
OHH My son we must explore settings with great care .
Very important --do One thing at a time otherwise you wont know what was an improvement and what wasn't
How did ya find the beast after I fiddled with tyre pressures.

SixPackBack
21st August 2005, 13:53
OHH My son we must explore settings with great care .
Very important --do One thing at a time otherwise you wont know what was an improvement and what wasn't
How did ya find the beast after I fiddled with tyre pressures.

A shit load better thanks Frosty specially when the tryes are cold....its mainly on bumpy roads the bitch bucks violently at the back over bigger bumps

Sensei
21st August 2005, 17:40
Pm me If you need them . I do own a GSXR1000 & have spent the last 10 month's perfecting the best setting's for all road condition's .

Marknz
21st August 2005, 18:08
Pm me If you need them . I do own a GSXR1000 & have spent the last 10 month's perfecting the best setting's for all road condition's .

FFS... yes, you ride hard and your settings are right for you... that doesn't mean they're any good for anyone else. It comes down to tyres, riding style, rider weight and any number of other things.

Sensei
21st August 2005, 18:17
FFS... yes, you ride hard and your settings are right for you... that doesn't mean they're any good for anyone else. It comes down to tyres, riding style, rider weight and any number of other things.

Not saying these are the be all to end all . Just that they could be good to try . Have set up to other GSXR1000's with these setting's . Both different rider's & weight . Apart from 2 adjustment's they couldn't believe the difference they made . Abit like trying different tyre's is it not ? Ya don't know unless you try . Everyone want's the best out of their bike's ! Doesn't take much to achieve this with some experimenting :Punk:

Marknz
21st August 2005, 18:21
Not saying these are the be all to end all . Just that they could be good to try . Have set up to other GSXR1000's with these setting's . Both different rider's & weight . Apart from 2 adjustment's they couldn't believe the difference they made . Abit like trying different tyre's is it not ? Ya don't know unless you try . Everyone want's the best out of their bike's ! Doesn't take much to achieve this with some experimenting :Punk:


Fair enough... there is more experince there than just with your own settings then. And while I'm at it, the "FFS" in my original was probably not the intro I should have used.

Biff
21st August 2005, 19:02
Had my first ever ride on a K4 Gixxer thou today (thanks G) - what a missile!

Sublime handling (a little quick on turning in for my style of riding though), blistering acceleration, and a front end that loves to reach for the skies (escpecially in low gears with a little bump in the road, wooohooo).

A fine piece of machinery IMO. :clap:

loosebruce
24th August 2005, 16:51
Bitches – don’t like the twitchy, micrometer like throttle at slow speeds.

It's not the throttle John, it's your old worn out peanut trying to comperhend the newer faster respone over the SP, either your far too old and past it, or it's just another learning curve, if someone your age can learn new things that is?

loosebruce
24th August 2005, 16:59
Dude i would'nt mind those settings. Had my suspension set up at cycletreads, and i think its a bit hard for NZ backroads, i get thrown all over the road on bumpy sections


Sixpack, no offence meant here, but with the speed you're at, at the present time, changing the settings wont offer nearly as much help as riding the thing, i haven't touched mine and you know how quick i can get along, i think the same goes for WT, he hasn't touched his much if any and he's faster than me.

Getting bounced around is just the way it is, i get thrown around all the time when i'm hitting bumps, (spesh those speed bumps out side skools and shit, what were they thinking putting them there!!!!)(PT), hate to think what a midget like WT has to deal with, you're on a superbike with a plate, if it's comfort your after the GSXR is not the bike for you. But i know you love the GSXR so keep going to the track and riding the road and expanding your experiance and abilty and you'll understand it's just the way it is.

Sensei
24th August 2005, 21:01
Sixpack, no offence meant here, but with the speed you're at, at the present time, changing the settings wont offer nearly as much help as riding the thing, i haven't touched mine and you know how quick i can get along,

Haven't seen either of you's ride so I cann't say much on that .But myself I had to change my bike a fair bit so I could ride it to my speed's round here . Our roads are very tight, twisty & bumpy so you have to have your bike set up right & standard was quite away from this could be different up North on those flat Towny road's . Bike time will help get use to how the bike feels . :Punk:

SPman
11th December 2005, 11:12
It's not the throttle Jon, it's your old worn out peanut trying to comperhend the newer faster response over the SP, either your far too old and past it, or it's just another learning curve, if someone your age can learn new things that is?
In light of developments - maybe a little of each.
Cranked up 6000k in 8 weekends - the 4 runs over the Rimutakas finally had me coming to grips with the feel of the tires and I found I could get the pegs down with no dramas - the throttle twitchiness didnt go away though!. Made a good tourer - zip together ventura packs saw it stable at 255K and the top gear roll on was brilliant - 3 secs to pass a car at 90k, roll on, pull out, pull in, proceed....
Brakes were good - powerful and effective, but left me feeling, slightly lacking, - they felt soft. I beleive the K4's went to 1 peice pads per side, wereas the K3's had 2 pc pads - the K3's have got a slightly better feel to them - just slightly crisper.
Steering definately not as quick as a gxxer 750 - had to muscle it slightly more from lock to lock, but still commendably responsive and very stable in high speed sweepers - ended up with, generally Senseis settings with the rear adjusted for my lighter weight. The not quite so quick steering and, probably some brain fade, contributed to her demise on Highway 22, when I (i think), zigged, but didnt zag in time.......
A replacement has now been obtained - same as before - K4
Engine on Becky is harsher, but she hasnt got the twitchy throttle response of the old one, so thats good. Unfortunately, I cant ride much yet, due to slowly healing lower leg injuries, but looking forward to cracking up many more miles.....

SixPackBack
11th December 2005, 18:04
Yup that black K5 had your name all over it. Want to try a TRE whilst I am incapacitated Jon? I thought it made a measurable difference to low speed fueling...piss easy to fit! Contact me if your interested.

Sensei
11th December 2005, 20:10
Yea Wouldn't be with out mine . Ivan's TRE :2thumbsup