Predjudicial prejudices

[Edbear]

I was reading an article on prejudice. It dealt with a variety of prejudices from around the world against such things as race, of course, but also addressed prejudice in general and how it affects most aspects of our lives.

It was interesting to see that different cultures and races have different prejudices dependent upon location and history. It got me thinking about prejudice in general and the fact that we all have a tendency to prejudice in one form or another about many different things.

Prejudice by definition is:

prej·u·dice
/ˈprejədəs/Noun
Preconceived opinion not based on reason or experience.


Now we all would be reluctant to admit we were prejudiced without regard to facts or reason, but the truth is, many, if not most of us are in some way.

What puzzles me is why so many are reluctant to address their prejudices and ignore facts and reason in an effort to preserve their prejudice, or resort to unreasoned justification for same. Why are so many keen to have a knee-jerk reaction to something and make fools of themselves once the true facts come to light?

Are you prejudiced in one way or another and why?

[SMOKEU]

This thread is bound to be good. :corn:

[Smifffy]

I'm guessing someone will be knocking on my door shortly to give me a copy of the same article.

[bogan]

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4083/5055032357_69d1d1be72_z.jpg

Nothing serious to see here folks...

[Edbear]

[Nothing serious to see here folks...

Yup! But notice how posters are already admitting they are prejudiced by definition? Some obviously can't read with comprehension and don't know what prejudice means, despite me posting the dictionary definition.

I wonder how many will answer according to the definition and say why. Call it an IQ test and watch them bleat...

[caspernz]

Maybe this is out of left field, and a generalisation as well, but I've found prejudice and limited education often go hand in hand.

Or at the very least I'd venture prejudice is born of something akin to fear of the unknown.

MInd you, I'll also admit to becoming less tolerant as I get older...might even turn into a dinosaur before too long :eek5:

[bogan]

I wonder how many will answer according to the definition and say why. Call it an IQ test and watch them bleat...

Maybe they're waiting for you to go first... Or maybe they can spot a troll thread too, and are just giving it the respect it deserves, which is to say, none at all.

[iYRe]

Probably because prejudice can arise by experience, which is quite subjective. However, if you try and invalidate someone's experience, you are pretty much trying to invalidate a belief (they believe they had an experience, which makes it, therefore, fact). And what happens when you try and invalidate a belief?

[gijoe1313]

I'm an equal opportunity bigot, I hate everything and everyone equally! :msn-wink:

[Smifffy]

Yup! But notice how posters are already admitting they are prejudiced by definition? Some obviously can't read with comprehension and don't know what prejudice means, despite me posting the dictionary definition.

I wonder how many will answer according to the definition and say why. Call it an IQ test and watch them bleat...

Except that their opinion is actually based on their experience of previous posts of this nature on this forum. According to your very own definition that opinion is not prejudice.

[Edbear]

Maybe this is out of left field, and a generalisation as well, but I've found prejudice and limited education often go hand in hand.

Or at the very least I'd venture prejudice is born of something akin to fear of the unknown.

MInd you, I'll also admit to becoming less tolerant as I get older...might even turn into a dinosaur before too long :eek5:


Probably because prejudice can arise by experience, which is quite subjective. However, if you try and invalidate someone's experience, you are pretty much trying to invalidate a belief (they believe they had an experience, which makes it, therefore, fact). And what happens when you try and invalidate a belief?

Remember the definition is preconceptions NOT based on reason or experience. We dislike something or someone or some race without knowing enough about same to make a reasoned decision.

In short we are being unreasonable and are therefore most probably wrong once we do know the facts.


I'm an equal opportunity bigot, I hate everything and everyone equally! :msn-wink:

Nice! Much simpler that way... :wacko:

[iYRe]

Remember the definition is preconceptions NOT based on reason or experience. We dislike something or someone or some race without knowing enough about same to make a reasoned decision.

In short we are being unreasonable and are therefore most probably wrong once we do know the facts.



What I was trying to suggest is that people CAN become prejudiced based on experience, because experience is subjective, and not necessarily reasonable nor factual. I know I have become prejudiced about certain things because of experiences I have had. If I had I known the facts/truth, I would not have become prejudiced.

[Edbear]

Seems someone has deleted their post...


Maybe this is out of left field, and a generalisation as well, but I've found prejudice and limited education often go hand in hand.

Or at the very least I'd venture prejudice is born of something akin to fear of the unknown.

MInd you, I'll also admit to becoming less tolerant as I get older...might even turn into a dinosaur before too long :eek5:

That is basically the reason for prejudices, a lack of education. I also note that prejudice is often due to simply not thinking about it. Many people just don't question their beliefs or motives or prejudices to see if thay have basis in reason or fact.

I do confess to prejudices about certain foods, some things I simply think are not edible by humans, me in particular. For example, horses, rodents, cats and dogs. I finally succumbed to pressure and tried Kina. :sick: :puke: Now I am no longer prejudiced against Kina, I just hate it!

[Edbear]

What I was trying to suggest is that people CAN become prejudiced based on experience, because experience is subjective, and not necessarily reasonable nor factual. I know I have become prejudiced about certain things because of experiences I have had. If I had I known the facts/truth, I would not have become prejudiced.

I get your point, I think it is maybe a blurred line between prejudice based on reason and experience, or is there another description for negative feelings based upon experience?

Could it be perceptions that are clarified once the facts are known?

[iYRe]

I get your point, I think it is maybe a blurred line between prejudice based on reason and experience, or is there another description for negative feelings based upon experience?

Could it be perceptions that are clarified once the facts are known?

I dont know of another word..

Although:

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Main Entry:
prejudice  [prej-uh-dis]



Definition:
belief without basis, information; intolerance

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An experience would count as a "basis", but its not a good basis to form an opinion on. As your mother always said, "never judge a book by a cover" (although, I have read many a good book and bought many a good album just because of the cover, heh).

The point would be, once the facts are known, your understanding has a proper basis, and then your "prejudice" becomes an informed opinion.

flame fodder: Most people (particularly on this forum, but just generally, regardless of their belief in religion or not) are prejudiced about Christianity and the Bible.
VERY FEW people actually are qualified to give an informed opinion (because theology is actually a discipline which, like any thing, requires formal education. Biblical studies are a part of literature, sociology, history, archaeology disciplines.. and yet "everyone" thinks they are qualified to have an opinion.. hah.)

[MIXONE]

I'm an equal opportunity bigot, I hate everything and everyone equally! :msn-wink:

Kill them all and let God sort them out...

[scissorhands]

prej·u·dice
/ˈprejədəs/Noun
Preconceived opinion not based on reason or experience.
Why are so many keen to have a knee-jerk reaction to something and make fools of themselves once the true facts come to light?


I am the truth and the light
Nobody comes to the father but through me


Maybe this is out of left field, and a generalisation as well, but I've found prejudice and limited education often go hand in hand.
:

All the Kings college and Grammar boys are some of the most prejudiced around....

My view after suffering a lifetime of prejudice.... even my family and friends have turned on me... is gut instinct based on old paradigms for survival

Chimps always gang up and kill an outsider who wanders into their troupe
Imagine a greenie posting here, or a gang member on anothers turf

Essentially its more of a male thing, the females will follow the lead..... Driving males away to support their husbands.... they are competition for mate able females amongst the herd/pack/troupe males

Fear of the other tainting the herd, is sometimes why rogue males are driven off

That recent dolphin Moko was driven off and became a loner. he had mouth wounds which could have been fatal but he was able to adapt to a solitary life and still feed well. His loneliness was has undoing as with all rogue animals befriending humans.

I'm watching a friend being driven out of town....
I have approached him about autism but he is closed off
He is successful and driven, his sons do extremely well in sports
One is a head prefect
So this dad thinks he is doing everything right
he has inflamed his community for years
The community has been gathering strength
or gathering prejudice
Against him
A recent altercation with local iwi may be his waterloo

If only he realised he is not the same as others
He is smart, clever, sons are champions
he has a much younger wife
On paper he looks like a total winner
Yet he inflames his community
As he makes many of them feel inferior and dumb
Due to lording his smarts over them
In an unconscious manner..............

many reasons for prejudice
Hutton and Co thought Arthur Allen Thomas was a 'half-wit'

Cops view me as a trouble maker
Yet all I do is face down prejudice against my neurotype
I make work for them...

There job is to keep the peace
Even if that peace is founded upon:
Victims of oppression
not rocking the boat
Police have many prejudices.........
labour hates national
National hates labour
from the top down the rot of prejudice is imposed by leaders and enforcers on lowerlings



This is a speciality area for me
I'll be back
Sorry for appearing a smartypants here

Religion was used by leaders
to keep prejudice at lower levels
So a civilised society can function

[scissorhands]

In summary the origin of prejudice was a survival mechanism and it lies in the primitive brain nearest the brain stem/spinal chord
the ancient part of the brain has shrunken and been superseded by the rational brain which develops slowly through generations
and sits more toward the forehead
maoriori had that head shape and look what happened to them:sweatdrop

feudal warlords typify prejudice with leadership
religious hardliners appeal to everyones latent back brain prejudice
some reasons are valid
if you let retards come up
they may breed with your daughters:crazy:

Open dialogue is a much better option than the current status quo of making someones life hell to prevent them from coming up...

[Akzle]

fuken jewry.

Ignorant selfish citizens. Ignorant selfish leaders.

[scumdog]

Maybe this is out of left field, and a generalisation as well, but I've found prejudice and limited education often go hand in hand.

Or at the very least I'd venture prejudice is born of something akin to fear of the unknown.



Lack of experiencing other places and people is a big factor - that and a narrow-minded upbringing.

[buggerit]

I was reading an article on prejudice. It dealt with a variety of prejudices from around the world against such things as race, of course, but also addressed prejudice in general and how it affects most aspects of our lives.

It was interesting to see that different cultures and races have different prejudices dependent upon location and history. It got me thinking about prejudice in general and the fact that we all have a tendency to prejudice in one form or another about many different things.

Prejudice by definition is:

prej·u·dice
/ˈprejədəs/Noun
Preconceived opinion not based on reason or experience.


Now we all would be reluctant to admit we were prejudiced without regard to facts or reason, but the truth is, many, if not most of us are in some way.

What puzzles me is why so many are reluctant to address their prejudices and ignore facts and reason in an effort to preserve their prejudice, or resort to unreasoned justification for same. Why are so many keen to have a knee-jerk reaction to something and make fools of themselves once the true facts come to light?

Are you prejudiced in one way or another and why?

Sometimes the the most prejudiced among us do not realise becuase their over inflated ego blinds them to the fact:corn:.

[Ocean1]

I get your point, I think it is maybe a blurred line between prejudice based on reason and experience, or is there another description for negative feelings based upon experience?

Could it be perceptions that are clarified once the facts are known?

No, your definition was incorrect.

Prejudice is literally to pre-judge, and I'd say it's rarely done with zero experience. Everyone does it, automatically, it's an obvious survival instinct from a time, (still?) whan anyone that looked or dressed or behaved differently was always a threat.

[Edbear]

Sometimes the the most prejudiced among us do not realise becuase their over inflated ego blinds them to the fact:corn:.

True, but anyone with a modicum of intelligence should realise, as Scummy says, that our opinions and attitudes may be due to our background and that as reasonable adults, we should question ourselves to ensure we are on the right track. Obviously the world is largely on the wrong track and it's not rocket science to see the failings of certain prejudices.


No, your definition was incorrect.

Prejudice is literally to pre-judge, and I'd say it's rarely done with zero experience. Everyone does it, automatically, it's an obvious survival instinct from a time, (still?) whan anyone that looked or dressed or behaved differently was always a threat.

I only cited oine dictionary definition, someone else has posted another, but both say based not upon reason or experience or accurate knowledge. ie: Wikipedia here...

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The word prejudice refers to prejudgment: i.e. making a decision before becoming aware of the relevant facts of a case. In recent times, the word has come to be most often used to refer to preconceived, usually unfavorable, judgments toward people or a person because of gender, social class, age, disability, religion, sexuality, race/ethnicity, language, nationality or other personal characteristics. In this case it refers to a positive or negative evaluation of another person based on their group membership.[1] Prejudice can also refer to unfounded beliefs[2] and may include "any unreasonable attitude that is unusually resistant to rational influence."[3] Gordon Allport defined prejudice as a "feeling, favorable or unfavorable, toward a person or thing, prior to, or not based on, actual experience."[4]

[scissorhands]

Like most things in life
Operation moderation
Balance and harmony

Some people deserves to be prejudiced against
like imposing moral blackmail unfairly on others
for the higher moral ground

Without prejudice
being ungrounded and floaty will occur
accidents will happen
Try not being prejudiced at all
You will not last a day
Trying to pat a pit bull?
'Save the wolves' but your a sheep farmer?
honkie preaching peace to angry blackie?
Doing business with a Kings College snake and expecting fair play?
[been there done that]

As with most things in life its okay to prejudge certain people/animals/things a little bit [only for protection]
if that 'dislike or awareness' protects you and your kin from harm

pre judging is essential as we dont have time to figure everyone/everything out
so must judge a book by its cover at times

even so,this dynamic is responsible for much harm

yet it is somewhat understandable and acceptable

this is why change happens slowly

prejudices often require generations to heal

situations to pass

Dont mention the war....

Virulent greedy races need to be understood for what they are
Just as easy going slobs like NZers need to be understood as well:dodge:

[MisterD]

Prejudice is literally to pre-judge, and I'd say it's rarely done with zero experience. Everyone does it, automatically, it's an obvious survival instinct from a time, (still?) whan anyone that looked or dressed or behaved differently was always a threat.

Exactly. Pre-judge. It saves time.

[Ocean1]

I only cited oine dictionary definition, someone else has posted another, but both say based not upon reason or experience or accurate knowledge.

Yes, I know. And yet I grew up with a different definition.

I suspect the American(?) PC machine has deemed it equates to discrimination, (racial), which interestingly enough used to mean something different also.

You can't go too far wrong with a literal translation from the original, and give the PC brigade the finger they so desperately need.

[scissorhands]

fuken jewry.

Ignorant selfish citizens. Ignorant selfish leaders.

Indeed clever races with a bent for other peoples money are disliked
Check the Chinese in a year or two oh wait that now huh

[Edbear]

I think a few are mixing up what prejudice is. It is by definition, unreasonable and not according to experience or knowledge of fact.

So to avoid a pit Bull dog, for example is reasonable based on knowledge of the possible consequences and not prejudice per se. If we simply dislike something or someone without reason or cause, that is prejudice. One definition said "preconceptions" so coming to an unreasonble conclusion prior to and without knowing anything about it/them.

[scissorhands]

I wish I was born fluorescent red with pulsating lime strips
all over
peps would see danger and automatically avoid me

So I developed a scowl these last couple of years instead;)

[Edbear]

Yes, I know. And yet I grew up with a different definition.

I suspect the American(?) PC machine has deemed it equates to discrimination, (racial), which interestingly enough used to mean something different also.

You can't go too far wrong with a literal translation from the original, and give the PC brigade the finger they so desperately need.

Yup, a lot of modern PC'ism, (can I coine that?) has twisted the original meanings and it is now de riguer to proclaim discrimination or racism wherever possible.

I maintain that it does us good and is for our betterment that we take the time to examine our prejudices as to let go of resentment and prejudice does a lot for our own health and peace of mind, not to mention our relationships.

[MisterD]

It is by definition, unreasonable and not according to experience or knowledge of fact.

Is it? I had a schoolfriend whose Grandfather survived a Japanese PoW camp. He was incredibly prejudiced against anything Japanese. Was that reasonable or unreasonable?

[Katman]

I maintain that it does us good and is for our betterment that we take the time to examine our prejudices as to let go of resentment and prejudice does a lot for our own health and peace of mind, not to mention our relationships.

How do you feel about conspiracy theorists Ed?

[scissorhands]

he's just wanting to get the moral high ground
as per usual

[mashman]

A person does not have a prejudice until someone else decides that they have. All you have is what you know. Once a differing view is highlighted, both people will choose their prejudice.

[Edbear]

Is it? I had a schoolfriend whose Grandfather survived a Japanese PoW camp. He was incredibly prejudiced against anything Japanese. Was that reasonable or unreasonable?

As I said, I was posting the dictionary definitions. You would have to decide for yourself whether he was being reasonable or not. However, for those who have experienced what he suffered, one could hardly criticise him for how he felt.

War, indeed conflict per se, brings out both the best of humanity and the worst. No doubt many Japanese would not have supported the atrocities committed by those who were under the influence of a totalitarian regime that told lies to provoke hatred and who were under threat of death should they resist their commanders.

Mankind has within himself the capacity for incredible love and incredible evil, and we must decide which of these will rule our own lives. Examining our own prejudices goes a long way to improving our own lives and that of those we associate with.

[scissorhands]

The upside of forgiveness is a lighter heart
and increased happiness

Hate sits in the liver

L-I-V-E-R

to live

[Edbear]

How do you feel about conspiracy theorists Ed?

Until they reveal whether they are reasonable or interested in ascertaining fact, I am neutral. If they prove themselves incapable of reason or accepting factual evidence and doggedly pursue their conspiracy theories in the face of conclusive evidence, I then dismiss them as being of no serious concern. I pity them, if anything.

Now before you take just a few words of this post and go further, as you are wont to do, I say, take it in full context. Something that is anathema to you. Context denies you the freedom to twist what I say.

[scissorhands]

But you place one god before all others...
The ultimate prejudice!

some peeps make forgiveness really hard....

[iYRe]

You would have to decide for yourself whether he was being reasonable or not. However, for those who have experienced what he suffered, one could hardly criticise him for how he felt.

You probably could criticise. However out of respect one would not.

[iYRe]

Until they reveal whether they are reasonable or interested in ascertaining fact, I am neutral. If they prove themselves incapable of reason or accepting factual evidence and doggedly pursue their conspiracy theories in the face of conclusive evidence, I then dismiss them as being of no serious concern. I pity them, if anything.


Gotta love those ancient alien theorists.. and pretty much any of those "unearthed" kind of shows on history channel (the history channel has formally declared their content "entertainment and not factual" fwiw)

[Edbear]

But you place one god before all others...
The ultimate prejudice!

some peeps make forgiveness really hard....

There are two Gods, the rest are figments of imaginations and the contructions of men. One can quite easily find out without prejudice, but as with those who are prejudiced they won't bother even to look or question.

True prejudice is marked by the reluctance to ask the questions or to examine the belief in a reasonable manner. Many are simply happy in their prejudices and see no reason to change. They therefore prove the definition that prejudice is not reason based.

[Edbear]

You probably could criticise. However out of respect one would not.

True, ultimately to write off a whole race or nation based on his experience may be deemed unreasonable, but without going through the experience we can only surmise how it would affect us personally. Empathy would dictate our response I think.

[Katman]

True prejudice is marked by the reluctance to ask the questions or to examine the belief in a reasonable manner.

You mean like blindly believing?

[iYRe]

Even if you could not empathise, respect for what he did, why he did it, and so forth would dictate you dont.

[Edbear]

You mean like blindly believing?

As I always say, blind faith is of no value as it breaks down under pressure.


Even if you could not empathise, respect for what he did, why he did it, and so forth would dictate you dont.

I place most emphasis on motive and never criticise such persons. And you are right, respect, along with understanding, would determine our responses to him.

[Katman]

As I always say, blind faith is of no value as it breaks down under pressure.


But you blindly believe that a building can collapse at free fall speed due to the failure of a single column simply because a government agency said their computer model confirms it.

Oh, by the way, you're not allowed to look at how they got their computer model to show that result - that's a secret.

[oneofsix]

But you blindly believe that a building can collapse at free fall speed due to the failure of a single column simply because a government agency said their computer model confirms it.

Oh, by the way, you're not allowed to look at how they got their computer model to show that result.

You just gave a good example of a prejudice. The building briefly reached free fall in mid fall and it was after multiple columns had failed. There was, of course, a column that failed first. But as that doesn't fit your prejudice against the official story you pick and chose how you read it.

[iYRe]

But you blindly believe that a building can collapse at free fall speed due to the failure of a single column simply because a government agency said their computer model confirms it.

Oh, by the way, you're not allowed to look at how they got their computer model to show that result.

actually, the guy who built the building said that this failure along with how he DESIGNED the building caused it.

But that's irrelevant because no one will ever know.

Occams razor should apply. Is it more likely the US government tried to kill their own citizens, in their own capital city.. or that the architect of the building itself is right?

Anyway.. carry on.

[Edbear]

But you blindly believe that a building can collapse at free fall speed due to the failure of a single column simply because a government agency said their computer model confirms it.

Oh, by the way, you're not allowed to look at how they got their computer model to show that result.

Not blind at all, as I said l look at all the available evidence, not just the conspiracy theorists evidence and base my conclusions upon everything in context. I don't just cherry pick what I want to believe and ignore proof to the contrary.

[Katman]

There was, of course, a column that failed first.

Don't forget, it was the farthest column from the debris and fire damage.

[Drew]

Yes, I know. And yet I grew up with a different definition.

I suspect the American(?) PC machine has deemed it equates to discrimination, (racial), which interestingly enough used to mean something different also.

You can't go too far wrong with a literal translation from the original, and give the PC brigade the finger they so desperately need.Alright, lets get the fuckin definition right to start with. "Pre judge" you say. Pre meaning before right? Before encountering is my take, but you are welcome to come up with anything else you like because it cannot be at odds to the basic meaning of Ed's dictionary definition.


How do you feel about conspiracy theorists Ed?The question is loaded. Not all conspiracies are bulshit, so the people themselves are a varied demographic.

But you blindly believe that a building can collapse at free fall speed due to the failure of a single column simply because a government agency said their computer model confirms it.

Oh, by the way, you're not allowed to look at how they got their computer model to show that result - that's a secret.If I'd written the program that could model in real time, a building coapsing, fuck if I'd tell some cunt how it works. Be years of my time wasted, for them to potentially profit!

[Drew]

Don't forget, it was the furtherest column from the debris and fire damage.You come work in high rise buildings with me for 15 years, and see the shit I have seen. Then you can start to question the architect who actually designed WT7, and his opinion of how it came down. If he could have dodged that bullet, I'm pretty fuckin certain he would have. His reputation and all, being on the line as it was.

[Katman]

If I'd written the program that could model in real time, a building coapsing, fuck if I'd tell some cunt how it works.

I dare say not Drew.

Especially if it wasn't a very good model.

http://www.ae911truth.org/en/news-section/41-articles/733-faq-11-does-the-nist-wtc-7-computer-animation-of-the-collapse-prove-that-the-skyscraper-came-down-by-fire.html

[Smifffy]

As I said, I was posting the dictionary definitions. You would have to decide for yourself whether he was being reasonable or not. However, for those who have experienced what he suffered, one could hardly criticise him for how he felt.

War, indeed conflict per se, brings out both the best of humanity and the worst. No doubt many Japanese would not have supported the atrocities committed by those who were under the influence of a totalitarian regime that told lies to provoke hatred and who were under threat of death should they resist their commanders.

Mankind has within himself the capacity for incredible love and incredible evil, and we must decide which of these will rule our own lives. Examining our own prejudices goes a long way to improving our own lives and that of those we associate with.

So are you saying that the purpose of identifying a prejudiced view is in order to criticise the person with the prejudice?

[Edbear]

So are you saying that the purpose of identifying a prejudiced view is in order to criticise the person with the prejudice?

I think you meant this for the other thread?

[Drew]

So are you saying that the purpose of identifying a prejudiced view is in order to criticise the person with the prejudice?I used to be prejudiced against Ducatis. Now that I have personal experience, I know I was right!

So to criticise someone for their prejudice, could become quite entertaining.

[Ocean1]

Alright, lets get the fuckin definition right to start with. "Pre judge" you say. Pre meaning before right? Before encountering is my take, but you are welcome to come up with anything else you like because it cannot be at odds to the basic meaning of Ed's dictionary definition.

But pre-what? Pre-meeting-an-individual seems the obvious point, yes?

So if an individual walks towards me wearing his pants down around his knees and a baseball cap backwards on his head then I might make some assumptions about his likely behaviour, based on other similarly clad dude's I've met. So the "judgment" is in fact based on previous personal experience. That's prejudice, and like I said it's not only natural it's sorta hard wired into us, difficult to impossible to change.

The definition that's become more common equates to "treating this here black dude badly because I don't like black dudes even though the black dudes on TV are proportionately bad and or good based on racial population demographics".

Which simply means the PC brigade has got hold of it and fucked with teh meaning to suit themselves, rather than concentration on their own lack of comprehension, which would have had them focusing on words like "Racist" or "Discrimiatory".

[Edbear]

So are you saying that the purpose of identifying a prejudiced view is in order to criticise the person with the prejudice?

Now I'm having trouble keeping up with both threads... :wacko:

What I am saying is that it is not always healthy to hold unreasoned prejudicial views and we are doing ourselves a disservice if we don't question why we hold those views. Maybe with the view to changing our opinions which may help resolve conflicts.

[Smifffy]

I think you meant this for the other thread?

I'm certain if you scroll up, you'll find where I quoted you directly came from this thread.

[blackdog]

Now I'm having trouble keeping up with both threads... :wacko:



Scotch with the Tramadol is it?

[Edbear]

Scotch with the Tramadol is it?

I tend to avoid alcohol as it interferes with the edrugs. If I am not going anywhere, I may have one glass of wine with dinner.

[Drew]

I tend to avoid alcohol as it interferes with the edrugs. If I am not going anywhere, I may have one glass of wine with dinner.


You're going on my block list fucker. You just can't help but feed the bloody trolls!

[scissorhands]

Whenever I meet a JW, I think of you
Your god may want you off the team...

[blackdog]

I tend to avoid alcohol as it interferes with the edrugs. If I am not going anywhere, I may have one glass of wine with dinner.

So it's ok to drive on just the drugs then?

[Drew]

Whenever I meet a JW, I think of you
Your god may want you off the team...He might have made you think a bit queer, to get your arse stoned to death too!

[scissorhands]

He might have made you think a bit queer, to get your arse stoned to death too!

Do JW's stone gays?
Luckily I'm only retarded then
The Nazi's aint listening are they?

[Drew]

Do JW's stone gays?
Luckily I'm only retarded then
The Nazi's aint listening are they?AHHHHH STINK! I put "retarded" in my post when I wrote it too, but thought it might be a bit over the top.

Fuckity fuck, FUCK!

[scissorhands]

When it cums to sex
Women are more prejudiced than men

men will generally go any woman
whilst a woman will generally only mate with men from her own race

women are haters

[Akzle]

You're going on my block list fucker. You just can't help but feed the bloody trolls!

oh come on. hes more entertaining than me...

[Drew]

oh come on. hes more entertaining than me...If you're boring yourself, here's a tip.




Commit suicide.;)

[merv]

Hasn't this got anything to do with batteries?

[Drew]

Hasn't this got anything to do with batteries?Are you prejudiced against them?

If you are, then yes it does!

[Smifffy]

AHHHHH STINK! I put "retarded" in my post when I wrote it too, but thought it might be a bit over the top.

Fuckity fuck, FUCK!

When did being over the top ever stop you?

[ducatilover]

Hasn't this got anything to do with batteries?

Don't you like chicken?

You must be very white.

[bogan]

he's just wanting to get the moral high ground
as per usual

Kind of funny how he thinks stepping on other people is the only way to get there.

Also kinda funny how often the people don't provide the stable footing and he falls flat on his face.

Speaking of which, here's an example of prejudice.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HMg5wwn8M5s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I bet you think that guy is a booze you prejudiced cunt you; but for all we know that might not have been booze, could have been tramadol :shifty:

Oh, we may want to ask Hitcher about that title too, don't think it really works in a grammatical sense.

[Edbear]

Kind of funny how he thinks stepping on other people is the only way to get there.

Also kinda funny how often the people don't provide the stable footing and he falls flat on his face.

Speaking of which, here's
I bet you think that guy is a booze you prejudiced cunt you; but for all we know that might not have been booze, could have been tramadol :shifty:

Oh, we may want to ask Hitcher about that title too, don't think it really works in a grammatical sense.

You assume far too much and it is you who falls on your face. Care to point to a post in this thread where I have stepped on somebody?

[Edbear]

You're going on my block list fucker. You just can't help but feed the bloody trolls!

C'mon, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. They love biting!

[Drew]

When did being over the top ever stop you?I don't have the flare for it, I once thought I did.

[bogan]

You assume far too much and it is you who falls on your face. Care to point to a post in this thread where I have stepped on somebody?

Well maybe a like it down here for a bit of variety sometimes you fucking beigist. The usual tirade of insults is what I would consider an attempt to step on people.

[Edbear]

Well maybe a like it down here for a bit of variety sometimes you fucking beigist. The usual tirade of insults is what I would consider an attempt to step on people.

Maybe if you posted in English we might know what you are talking about. What is a beigist?

[bogan]

Maybe if you posted in English we might know what you are talking about. What is a beigist?

One who indulges in beigery, jesus Ed, get an education.

[Katman]

What is a beigist?

My guess is that he meant bigot.

Fair call I'd say.

[ducatilover]

One who indulges in beigery, jesus Ed, get an education.

I thought I was a beigist?

[bogan]

I thought I was a beigist?

Hmm, good question, maybe ask the volvo in your garage for a reference? :dodge:

[sugilite]

Yup, a lot of modern PC'ism, (can I coine that?) has twisted the original meanings and it is now de riguer to proclaim discrimination or racism wherever possible.




Maybe if you posted in English we might know what you are talking about. What is a beigist?

What is a hypocrite?

[bogan]

What is a hypocrite?

A word as unknown to Ed as beigist apparently :bleh:

[ducatilover]

Hmm, good question, maybe ask the volvo in your garage for a reference? :dodge:

I'm a well proper beigist, Ed has nothing on my Volvo. Blimmin prejudiced Jappa owners.



Wait, I just purchased a Jappa the other day too... never mind.

[oneofsix]

I'm a well proper beigist, Ed has nothing on my Volvo. Blimmin prejudiced Jappa owners.



Wait, I just purchased a Jappa the other day too... never mind.

Does the purchase of the jappa mean you are no longer a beigist? Wouldn't that depend on the Jappa?

[ducatilover]

Does the purchase of the jappa mean you are no longer a beigist? Wouldn't that depend on the Jappa?

Oh no, I still have the Volvo, no amount of Jappas will overcome that, shirley?

[oneofsix]

Oh no, I still have the Volvo, no amount of Jappas will overcome that, shirley?

Good point, but then that would be a prejudice wouldn't it? :wacko:

[ducatilover]

Good point, but then that would be a prejudice wouldn't it? :wacko:

I think it's about time somebody posted some pics of les-beans?

[oneofsix]

I think it's about time somebody posted some pics of les-beans?

http://images.buzzillions.com/images_products/07/59/del-monte-fresh-cut-green-beans-french-style-4-cans-14-5-oz-ea_9891811_175.jpg

[ducatilover]

http://whatdidyoueat.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/01/img_7932.jpg

[Madness]

http://media-cache-ec4.pinimg.com/736x/39/1b/b2/391bb28a763d2effbb0b966414f27ccd.jpg


http://media-cache-ec3.pinimg.com/736x/67/70/1a/67701aad7d4bf2bffa912ca4d305dec7.jpg


http://media-cache-ak2.pinimg.com/736x/6b/65/ac/6b65acc2e9a053489786a28463c0db55.jpg


http://media-cache-ec4.pinimg.com/736x/6e/5f/55/6e5f55d79885406d750b29b8b9a7a558.jpg


http://media-cache-ak1.pinimg.com/736x/21/23/b8/2123b80f1e92727670e8094264f63273.jpg


http://media-cache-ec4.pinimg.com/736x/42/6f/58/426f58dc3f40c1f248f61839d6692859.jpg


http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/4f/a7/47/4fa7477504f8c67fba2d46d9fd8e6692.jpg


http://media-cache-ec4.pinimg.com/736x/f8/5b/dd/f85bdd8a2ab78f5f29c7e041b3d1c967.jpg

[scissorhands]

gods favourite children are bikers!
god bless them