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Laava
23rd June 2013, 17:24
We have uncovered these two fruit trees, overgrown on our section, and wonder what they are. The oval ones we think may be some type of pepino? But we thought they should
have been bigger. They have a similar taste to feijoa, from the small taste I had.
Any ideas?

Mom
23rd June 2013, 17:32
Tamarillo - Yellow Tamarillo

http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=888&q=yellow+tamerillo&oq=yellow+tamerillo&gs_l=img.3...1972.5663.0.6794.16.10.0.6.2.0.239.55 1.8j1j1.10.0...0.0...1ac.1.17.img.bLm0zvq_niw

Laava
23rd June 2013, 17:36
I should have brought some leaves home with me to compare. You may be onto it there Mom although they are a lot smaller and harder than your red variety as a comparison
Edit, I just had another try and it is very tamarillowy in taste but the leaves on the bush are very small in comparison to tamarillo.

Naki Rat
23rd June 2013, 18:24
They are both types of solanaceae (http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=619&q=solanaceae+fruit&oq=Solanaceae&gs_l=img.1.5.0l10.2706.2706.0.7576.1.1.0.0.0.0.240 .240.2-1.1.0...0.0...1ac.2.17.img.JYEOZKfRGs0#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=QlCFRy27pYFOLM%3A%3BJOEp6KdiVNb_vM%3Bhttp%25 3A%252F%252Ffarm2.static.flickr.com%252F1217%252F1 443380847_769d7e2d03.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww. flickriver.com%252Fphotos%252Fluigistrano%252F1443 380847%252F%3B375%3B500) (nightshade family) by the looks. The first one is probably yellow tamarillo but not sure of the second one. More photos of the plants and also a cut fruit of each would help.

Laava
23rd June 2013, 18:46
They are both types of solanaceae (http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=619&q=solanaceae+fruit&oq=Solanaceae&gs_l=img.1.5.0l10.2706.2706.0.7576.1.1.0.0.0.0.240 .240.2-1.1.0...0.0...1ac.2.17.img.JYEOZKfRGs0#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=QlCFRy27pYFOLM%3A%3BJOEp6KdiVNb_vM%3Bhttp%25 3A%252F%252Ffarm2.static.flickr.com%252F1217%252F1 443380847_769d7e2d03.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww. flickriver.com%252Fphotos%252Fluigistrano%252F1443 380847%252F%3B375%3B500) (nightshade family) by the looks. The first one is probably yellow tamarillo but not sure of the second one. More photos of the plants and also a cut fruit of each would help.

You may be on to something there Naki Rat, I will get some better photies up and try find the plant photos

mashman
23rd June 2013, 18:52
Give 'em to the missus first :D

Laava
23rd June 2013, 18:54
And here is another one, but probably native and inedible. Fruit/berry about 8-10mm

The Reibz
23rd June 2013, 18:57
Got any beatlenut on those trees?

Laava
23rd June 2013, 19:05
Haha, I had to google that! Betel nut right?
Oh, and no.

The Reibz
23rd June 2013, 20:24
Haha yep thats the shit. Its all over the pacific and micronesia. Pretty much just ask anyone in PNG to smile at you and its pretty obvious that they have been chewing it

Shadows
23rd June 2013, 23:59
First one looks like it might be poroporo which as somebody said before is related to nightshade / potato / tomato. Can't tell for sure unless you cut them open and post a picture of the leaves. That shit is toxic unless the berries are fully ripe. I've only eaten them when they are deep orange and almost bursting open.

Banditbandit
24th June 2013, 14:31
OK .... the first ones are yellow tammarillo - we all agree ....

The second ones could be Guavas. Don't look at the leaves ... I have just planted an oak-leaf Guava .. has fruit exactly like the picture - but different leaves.

The third ones look like blueberries ... the leaves and fruit are exactly right as well. How big is the bush ?

george formby
24th June 2013, 14:50
I would say yep, yep & na. If the second ones, guavas, have a "star" on the bottom then that is probably right. The third one does not appear to have a calex (?) at the base of the stem so not a berry, looks more like an ornamental plum or cherry. If so the fruit would have a stone in the middle. Found a few head scratchers in our jungle too.

Brett
25th June 2013, 23:23
My first thought was also tamarillo's and guava.

Laava
26th June 2013, 07:11
Here is a photo of the fruits cut open and a peeler for scale.
Also, not Poroporo thanks Shadows.

RideLife
26th June 2013, 09:09
1. Yellow Tamarillo
You mentioned them being overgrown. This would possibly cause, small fruit, as plant is not getting adequate light to grow strongly, and less 'sugar's' in the fruit due to lack of sunlight. That one you cut open seems not ripe. Just like the red ones, they should be soft when ripe.

2. Persimmon (Edit- No.. cape gooseberry)

3 Blue berry - read up on how to care for blueberry, they like different conditions to other plants, (and from memory), fruit on second year wood. Given they prefer colder climates, I'm surprised to see it fruiting so well in Kamo.

Racey

Banditbandit
26th June 2013, 10:27
Yeah, 1 is clearly yellow tamarillo

2 - I doubt that it is persimmon - it looks too small. I know that covered fruit trees will produce smaller fruit - but look at the size of it against the potato peeler - that's way too small for a persimmon - even a stunted one ... it could be a small guava - I just planted a guava tree and the fruit on it were about that size - I expect them to get bigger as the tree grows.

3 Yeah - I thought this is a blueberry ... mainly from the shape and colour of the leaves, and the way the fruit is on the branches (as well as the colour). That's the way our juvenile blueberries looked a couple of months ago ... But it's hard to get an idea of size, and we can't see the underside of the fruit, which would tell us definitely .. should look like this .. and don't (but the angle is not great either) .. so now I am not so sure

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Number three also reminds me of a tree I have seen - but I can't remember what it is ... and I'm pretty sure its an ornamental, not an edible ... the fruit is about the same size as a blueberry, but not nearly as abundant or clumped as blue berries are, asdn the berries are hard, not soft, and it's a large tree ...

RideLife
26th June 2013, 11:31
2. Sorry... cape gooseberry is what I was thinking of.... just got the name wrong.


May still be wrong.....

Will ask wife when she gets home, "What was the name of that berry plant that used to be in the garden?"

george formby
26th June 2013, 12:04
2. Sorry... cape gooseberry is what I was thinking of.... just got the name wrong.


May still be wrong.....

Will ask wife when she gets home, "What was the name of that berry plant that used to be in the garden?"

Nah, it's not physallis / cape gooseberry, they have a papery parachute around them & grow on a shrub. Defo same fambly, though. They do look like the mutant off spring of a tomato & persimmon liaison.

I'm leaning towards another variety of tree tomato, like the tamarillo.

Big Dave
26th June 2013, 12:41
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Maha
26th June 2013, 12:44
It could be a Mellow Yellow Tamarillo

unstuck
26th June 2013, 12:44
Not anything like our cape gooseberries.:oi-grr: Have you eaten any? are they really bitter? Did you halucinate?:whistle:

george formby
26th June 2013, 12:50
Not anything like our cape gooseberries.:oi-grr: Have you eaten any? are they really bitter? Did you halucinate?:whistle:

I did wonder. OP been quiet. Stuck in the dunny?

Naki Rat
26th June 2013, 13:48
1 Yellow tamarillo/tree tomato (same thing but depends on your age what you know it as)

2 Not persimmon - too many residual petals (calyx), persimmon have 4 not 6
Not guava as guava have no calyx.
Can't offer any other suggestions

3 Pretty sure it's coffee (edit; not so sure)

Take the fruit and leaves down to Subtropica (http://www.subtropica.co.nz/index.php) at Waipu. They should be able to ID them, and possibly supplied the plants you have originally.

MSTRS
26th June 2013, 15:22
2 has apple-like leaves. But cut fruit looks nothing like crab-apple - so that's my idea shot down...

Laava
26th June 2013, 19:27
Sorry, dodgy belly!
First one has been uncovered since sept last year and had the whole summers worth of weather.
Second one is quite bitter, not something you would eat as a fruit. Not sure why it was planted then?
Third one is def not blueberry.

unstuck
27th June 2013, 06:39
Eat a handful and see if ya start tripping out, could be sitting on a gold mine.:whistle: