Shotguns for sale. And shit.

[Akzle]

bwahahahaha.

Every one want the gang in blue vests to carry guns yet?

[DrunkenMistake]

You are now a prime NZSIS target.
:whistle:

[Madness]

Yeah, right.

http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1314129785/193/5497193.jpg

[Akzle]

as if i wasnt before...
But srsly. Tool up. The revolution is coming
:D

[Akzle]

Yeah, right.


No. They had black vests and balaclavas, and, apparently, license to murder brown people. Because all criminals are brown.

Still interested where the 3 bullets fired, that didnt hit him, went...

[mashman]

as if i wasnt before...
But srsly. Tool up. The revolution is coming
:D

YAY... not as cool as an asteroid, but YAY.

Edity: maybe they're off to get their grass back.

[SMOKEU]

Because all criminals are brown.



+1............

[Maha]

They already carry guns, you just can't see them and shit.

[scissorhands]

A side arm would make complimentary attire to balance the puffer-fish look of the bulletproof vests

Just out of interest, have the vests actually saved any cops from harm?

I know it makes them look bigger....

[scumdog]

Just out of interest, have the vests actually saved any cops from harm?
...

Only from stabbing and blows from lengths of pipe etc.

Bloody heavy they are - don't expect me to jump into a river straight away to save you if you fall in...

[Madness]

don't expect me to jump into a river straight away to save you if you fall in...

:killingme

[Katman]

Who cares,they got enough in him to fuck him up.Moral of the story dont be messing with other peoples shit.Simple.

Seriously man, you should stop and engage your brain before blurting out shit when you clearly don't know what the fuck's being talked about.

[Madness]

Who cares,they got enough in him to fuck him up.Moral of the story dont be messing with other peoples shit.Simple.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10796552

:facepalm:

You should join the popo Mike.

[98tls]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10796552

:facepalm:

You should join the popo Mike.

Forgive me i was just following Katmans lead of recent months and randomly posting shit i know nothing about in various threads..Me bad.Post removed.

[Katman]

Forgive me i was just following Katmans lead of recent months and randomly posting shit i know nothing about in various threads..Me bad.Post removed.

:tugger:


.

[98tls]

:tugger:


.

:laugh:As for red things and "cock breath".You have aquired some issues it seems.Stop ranting start dealing.

[Katman]

:laugh:As for red things and "cock breath".You have aquired some issues it seems.Stop ranting start dealing.

Hang on a minute, let me get this straight.....

You blurt out some shit about "good job" that an innocent courier driver was accidentally shot by the AOS and then liken it to me spouting "random shit" and then wonder why I tell you to get fucked?

You should take a closer look at your own issues.

[Akzle]

They already carry guns, you just can't see them and shit.

in the car. But they done that since before it were 'legal' (?).
Glocks and bushmasters.
With hollow points. Which are still illegal.
Why does nz govt buy american guns?

[unstuck]

in the car. But they done that since before it were 'legal' (?).
Glocks and bushmasters.
With hollow points. Which are still illegal.
Why does nz govt buy american guns?

Cos merikans are good at killing people.:headbang::headbang:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Why does nz govt buy american guns?

Why does NZ govt bend over for the FBI, completely abort an attack on a NZ permanent resident's houe, then fail to comply with Court orders as to the unlawfully seized information?

Why aren't we doing a Greece right now? Oh hang on, X Factor's on... brb....

[Swoop]

Just out of interest, have the vests actually saved any cops from harm?

I know it makes them look bigger....
Shouldn't they be renamed "corsets for beer gut owners"?

[MisterD]

Why does NZ govt bend over for the FBI,

Same reason the rest of the country acts like a schoolgirl with a crush when David Letterman says he wants to come on holiday here.

[Banditbandit]

bwahahahaha.

Every one want the gang in blue vests to carry guns yet?

Don't they now ??? Didn't they just shoot someone in Taranaki ?

[Banditbandit]

Only from stabbing and blows from lengths of pipe etc.

Bloody heavy they are - don't expect me to jump into a river straight away to save you if you fall in...

I wouldn't even expect a popo to be able to swm in the first place ..

[SMOKEU]

With hollow points. Which are still illegal.


What's illegal with hollow points?

[Banditbandit]

What's illegal with hollow points?

In this country hollow points can only legal be used on animals and Afrikaaner facists ... human beings can only be shot with solid nose bullets ..

[HenryDorsetCase]

I wouldn't even expect a popo to be able to swm in the first place ..

swm = single white male...... OK then.

[HenryDorsetCase]

In this country hollow points can only legal be used on animals and Afrikaaner facists ... human beings can only be shot with solid nose bullets ..

Meh take a hacksaw and cut a cross in the top. Dum Dum bullets and shoot to kill. I hear dive bombers and empire down.



bonus points if you know the lyric. You might, we're about the same age I think.

[unstuck]

I hear the sons of the city and dissposessed
Get down, get undressed.:Punk::Punk:

[MisterD]

human beings can only be shot with solid nose bullets ..

Police forces tend to use hollow points because they're much less likely to go though the target and hit someone else as well

[huff3r]

What's illegal with hollow points?

I think people are getting confused about what's legal for the Police, and what's legal for the Defence Forces. Military Law outlaws hollowpoints, but last I checked the cops aren't soldiers.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I think people are getting confused about what's legal for the Police, and what's legal for the Defence Forces. Military Law outlaws hollowpoints, but last I checked the cops aren't soldiers.

Give it time, comrade, give it time! Viva La Revolucion!

[Swoop]

What's illegal with hollow points?
The Hague Convention of 1899 (and subsequently the Geneva Convention) forbade the use of expanding, deformable bullets in wartime. Military "Ball" ammunition is used.

http://www.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docs/v2_rul_rule77

What actually happens is another matter entirely.

[unstuck]

Give it time, comrade, give it time! Viva La Revolucion!

:Oi: Wheres my bonus point????:devil2::Punk::Punk:

[Banditbandit]

Police forces tend to use hollow points because they're much less likely to go though the target and hit someone else as well

Our lot are such useless shots that I hardly think that matterrs .. my feeling is that if a New Zealand police officer is pointing a gun at you you have a very low chance of getting shot ...

[HenryDorsetCase]

:Oi: Wheres my bonus point????:devil2::Punk::Punk:

I have to spread myself round before giving it up for you again. But it'll be totally worth it.

Plus the Sisters of Mercy rule.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Our lot are such useless shots that I hardly think that matterrs .. my feeling is that if a New Zealand police officer is pointing a gun at you you have a very low chance of getting shot ...

cue the "shot AT a dog NINE times from four feet away and didnt put it down" story from a few years back....

[MisterD]

cue the "shot AT a dog NINE times from four feet away and didnt put it down" story from a few years back....

I seem to recall some admiration for the abilities of the one that shot the Taranaki golf club raider

[Road kill]

Our lot are such useless shots that I hardly think that matterrs .. my feeling is that if a New Zealand police officer is pointing a gun at you you have a very low chance of getting shot ...

Try that theory in Taranaki, so far they've proven to be pretty good.

[HenryDorsetCase]

True dat


http://www.patheos.com/blogs/joecarter/2012/11/marine-corps-rules-for-gunfighting/


Bring a gun. Bring two guns. Bring all your friends who have guns.

[scumdog]

.
Glocks and bushmasters.
With hollow points. Which are still illegal.
Why does nz govt buy american guns?

Illegal?
Really?
Tell me more - I'm MOST interested in that fact<_<
A Hydroshok sure as hell does the trick, so why the worry?

And why not buy 'mercan guns - who else makes them so cheap and as suitable??

[Banditbandit]

Illegal?
Really?
Tell me more - I'm MOST interested in that fact<_<
A Hydroshok sure as hell does the trick, so why the worry?

And why not buy 'mercan guns - who else makes them so cheap and as suitable??

The Yids ... best damn guns around .. I'll take a Galil over an AK or Armourlite any day ...

[scumdog]

The Yids ... best damn guns around .. I'll take a Galil over an AK or Armourlite any day ...


Remember, NZ Police get supplied by whoever can supply the cheapest product when a tender goes out.

And once the cheap training ammo was sorted they are reliable as clockwork, easy to use and compact. And not bad accuracy for the intended purpose - better than the Model 7 was.

[Akzle]

Why aren't we doing a Greece right now? Oh hang on, X Factor's on... brb....
countdown to sunrise in washington.....

What's illegal with hollow points?
litle thing that happened called the geneva convention. also means that PO can't use the "just following orders" excuse.. not that they ever seem to get their dessert.

-edits-
i see i missed a page.

the irony is that the yank SS use israeli made uzi, and now swiss made sig sauers.
ode to hilarity.

[Akzle]

Remember, NZ Police get supplied by whoever can supply the cheapest employees
. .

[Akzle]

The Yids ... best damn guns around .. I'll take a Galil over an AK or Armourlite any day ...

nooooo. AK ftw.

[scumdog]

nooooo. AK ftw.

AK?
Sure they work ok - but as awkward as all fuck in a lot of situations.

[Edbear]

Our lot are such useless shots that I hardly think that matterrs .. my feeling is that if a New Zealand police officer is pointing a gun at you you have a very low chance of getting shot ...

You wouldn't be willing to test that theory by chance?

[HenryDorsetCase]

nooooo. AK ftw.

AK47? You're dreaming. Its called AK47 because thats when it was designed. Sure it is cheap as chips to manufacture, reliable as anything and all that but it is inaccurate compared to modern weapons, and has some issues around barrel rise that modern weapons don't have. Plus the ammunition is large and heavy and due to that you have limited mag size.

Plus it has old style "long gun" architecture.

We like modern guns: I present to you the FN P90: 50 round mag at 5.56 x 23 mm is enough to fuck you and your friends up, light, short but long enough barrel and tested to be accurate out to 600m IIRC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_P90

source: If I told you I'd have to kill you. OK I play a lot of COD Black Ops. Its the same, right?

edit. its 5.7 x 28, my bad

[Banditbandit]

nooooo. AK ftw.

Are you sure ?? Ever used a Galil ??

[Akzle]

AK?
Sure they work ok - but as awkward as all fuck in a lot of situations.
like what? they put lots of bullets downrange quickly. relatively short weapon and pistol grip means they handle quick enough, and i'd pit myself against a cop with one out to 200 yards.

AK47? You're dreaming. Its called AK47 because thats when it was designed. Sure it is cheap as chips to manufacture, reliable as anything and all that but it is inaccurate compared to modern weapons, and has some issues around barrel rise that modern weapons don't have. Plus the ammunition is large and heavy and due to that you have limited mag size.

Plus it has old style "long gun" architecture.

We like modern guns: I present to you the FN P90: 50 round mag at 5.56 x 23 mm is enough to fuck you and your friends up, light, short but long enough barrel and tested to be accurate out to 600m IIRC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_P90

source: If I told you I'd have to kill you. OK I play a lot of COD Black Ops. Its the same, right?

edit. its 5.7 x 28, my bad
them the ones with the bullets stacked vertically in the mag eh? and it slide on top of the barrel? (wiki=google= jews= not on my PC)
i'd rather have an AUG if i wanted a bullpup (plus they';re very modular, swap out for a heavy barrel for snipey snipey or put the .223 action in for CQ). tbh i' rather have a dragunov than an AK but AKs are a lot of fun.



Are you sure ?? Ever used a Galil ??

can't say i have. well, i could, but that would be a lie, and i'm a fucking upstanding citizen. thems the mostly polymer ones eh? similar to FN FAL?

[Banditbandit]

AK47? You're dreaming. Its called AK47 because thats when it was designed. Sure it is cheap as chips to manufacture, reliable as anything and all that but it is inaccurate compared to modern weapons, and has some issues around barrel rise that modern weapons don't have. Plus the ammunition is large and heavy and due to that you have limited mag size.



Designer Mikhail Kalishnikov 1947 ... A for Avtomat (automatic)


The Israeli army identified the AK47 s one of the best light infrantry weapons - but went to a Finnish development of that weapon - apparently gave it to their troops and said 'how can we improve this?" - as well as having tropps use a variety of other weapons ...

From what the troops said the Galil Assault Rifle was developed - then a carbine version and a machine gun version ... the Galil uses the Kalishnikov firing system - as it is one of the most jam-free work-under-any conditions systems ...

[Banditbandit]

can't say i have. well, i could, but that would be a lie, and i'm a fucking upstanding citizen. thems the mostly polymer ones eh? similar to FN FAL?

They are stunning to use - better than an AK or anything else ... mostly metal - skeletal stock (with bottle opener) ... more comfortable in your hand and easier to aim than the Steyr ...

Go here ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMI_Galil

[Banditbandit]

I present to you the FN P90: 50 round mag at 5.56 x 23 mm is enough to fuck you and your friends up, light, short but long enough barrel and tested to be accurate out to 600m IIRC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_P90



Interesting - it looks a bit blocky and clunky - but I'd love to try one before I passed any sort of judgement ...

These came out after I stopped playing with nasty toys like this ... Now I just shoot possums and rabbits with a .22, deer with a .243 .. and birds with a 12 gauge semi ..

[scumdog]

AK?
Noisy-as safety when operated by one hand
Mag makes it hard to 'snuggle down' when prone or behind some cover
Complicated to fit a scope
Target recovery time between shots not so quick
30 round mag awkward to carry (as extra/spare compared with M15

Don't get me wrong, a fine battle rifle with not too bad a useful range considering the slug-gun style sights, reliable-as, easy to field-strip etc etc. but not what suits most law enforcement groups.

[Banditbandit]

AK?
Noisy-as safety when operated by one hand
Mag makes it hard to 'snuggle down' when prone or behind some cover
Complicated to fit a scope
Target recovery time between shots not so quick
30 round mag awkward to carry (as extra/spare compared with M15

Don't get me wrong, a fine battle rifle with not too bad a useful range considering the slug-gun style sights, reliable-as, easy to field-strip etc etc. but not what suits most law enforcement groups.

Yes - that's exactly right .. and there's no need to fit a scope .. the distance accuracy is not high enough to justify one .. just point and hold the trigger .. remembering that it climbs ... from memory it climbs from right to left ...

It's a great assult rifle ... that will keep firing under the worst conditions (sand, water etc ) ... but not a modern police weapon ...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Police forces tend to use hollow points because they're much less likely to go though the target and hit someone else as well

Stop you in your tracks quicker too I'd imagine.

[HenryDorsetCase]

(wiki=google= jews= not on my PC)


DAFUQ? are you high?

[huff3r]

Yes - that's exactly right .. and there's no need to fit a scope .. the distance accuracy is not high enough to justify one .. just point and hold the trigger .. remembering that it climbs ... from memory it climbs from right to left ...

It's a great assult rifle ... that will keep firing under the worst conditions (sand, water etc ) ... but not a modern police weapon ...

Read about Aramoana and you'll know why the AK isn't that great. It's rubbish accuracy/range meant that once the ATS arrived with mere MP5s they easily outclassed him.

Admittedly they were trained in the use of their weapons and he was not as such, but it was reported that all the ATS had to do was stand far enough back that his weapon was not accurate enough to be a threat, and shoot back accurately.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Designer Mikhail Kalishnikov 1947 ... A for Avtomat (automatic)


The Israeli army identified the AK47 s one of the best light infrantry weapons - but went to a Finnish development of that weapon - apparently gave it to their troops and said 'how can we improve this?" - as well as having tropps use a variety of other weapons ...

From what the troops said the Galil Assault Rifle was developed - then a carbine version and a machine gun version ... the Galil uses the Kalishnikov firing system - as it is one of the most jam-free work-under-any conditions systems ...

http://i.imgur.com/zhSXR1b.gif

and

http://i.imgur.com/mBrm7.gif

You're welcome.

[scumdog]

Read about Aramoana and you'll know why the AK isn't that great. It's rubbish accuracy/range meant that once the ATS arrived with mere MP5s they easily outclassed him.

Admittedly they were trained in the use of their weapons and he was not as such, but it was reported that all the ATS had to do was stand far enough back that his weapon was not accurate enough to be a threat, and shoot back accurately.

Ah, wrong, I think you need to research more, for a start Gray was not flash in the eye-sight department - like really bad.

[huff3r]

Ah, wrong, I think you need to research more, for a start Gray was not flash in the eye-sight department - like really bad.

My eye-sight isn't great, I still shoot ok :laugh:

[Akzle]

DAFUQ? are you high?

regrettably, no.

[Banditbandit]

Read about Aramoana and you'll know why the AK isn't that great. It's rubbish accuracy/range meant that once the ATS arrived with mere MP5s they easily outclassed him.

Admittedly they were trained in the use of their weapons and he was not as such, but it was reported that all the ATS had to do was stand far enough back that his weapon was not accurate enough to be a threat, and shoot back accurately.

Yes - that would be pretty true ... if you want longer range accuracy then the AK is not the best choice .. however while you are trying to get a long range one shot in with whatever the ATS currently use, the AK is spraying bullets at you - with a kill potential well further than it's accuracy potential - good chance that one of them will hit home ... you have to stick your head up to look at the target - and bullets would be zipping by all around you - and maybe into you ... that's the difference between an automatic firing gun and a trigger pull firing gun ..


Ah, wrong, I think you need to research more, for a start Gray was not flash in the eye-sight department - like really bad.

Either way . the AK is not a good choice for an urban police weapon ... but it is an excellent assault rifle (at least in it's day)

[huff3r]

Yes - that would be pretty true ... if you want longer range accuracy then the AK is not the best choice .. however while you are trying to get a long range one shot in with whatever the ATS currently use, the AK is spraying bullets at you - with a kill potential well further than it's accuracy potential - good chance that one of them will hit home ... you have to stick your head up to look at the target - and bullets would be zipping by all around you - and maybe into you ... that's the difference between an automatic firing gun and a trigger pull firing gun ..



Either way . the AK is not a good choice for an urban police weapon ... but it is an excellent assault rifle (at least in it's day)


The MP5s the ATS had were fully automatic. As are the AUGs the DF currently have, and they are much better than an AK. Very easy to break down and clean too. And fun to shoot.

[The Reibz]

LOL at some of the replies in this thread. Lack of firearms knowledge is very apparent with some of you.

The AUG is gas operated and is due for replacement in 2015. I personally don't like the trigger on it, its plastic and needs to be pulled back slightly harder in Automatic mode to get it fire more than 1 round. Its arse to clean, I know guys that have washed theirs out in the showers to assist in getting all the mud out. It takes atleast and hour to get it up to a high quality standard depending on how dirty it is and how many rounds have been fired through it. It won't jam up if its clean, I have done 5 full mags on full auto and it never skipped a beat. Its a childs weapon, anyone can pick it up and shoot reasonably well.

The AK uses a 7.62x39 and obviously has less range but in my opinion it is a far superior weapon even for its age. Can field strip the cunt in like 5 seconds and it will fire after being submerged in almost anything. The 7.62 has more penetrating power so it can shoot through concrete block walls and it costs like 40c a round.

MP5 is for special forces and has the advantage of using the same 9mm ammunition as a handgun. Therefore you only need to carry one type of ammo instead of 2.

As for the stolen firearms. The barrels will be sawn off most probably and used by one of NZ's many gangs. Aint no science in that haha

[HenryDorsetCase]

You seem to be suggesting that reading internet forums and playing Call of Duty is not a substitute for actual experience. Good grief, who'd have thought.

Also I would like to fire any of the above in full auto mode. Hook me up? Got a drive by you need a hand with?

[The Reibz]

Also I would like to fire any of the above in full auto mode. Hook me up? Got a drive by you need a hand with?
Haha, trust me. The novelty wears off after the first 10 rounds. Signup for 15 years at any of the 3 forces and you can shoot as much as you want.

[unstuck]

Got a drive by you need a hand with?

Yep, my place tonight apparently. couple of doggy prospects coming to shoot up my shit.:lol:

[huff3r]

Haha, trust me. The novelty wears off after the first 10 rounds. Signup for 15 years at any of the 3 forces and you can shoot as much as you want.

Already tried and left one, applied for number 2 a few weeks back :niceone:

I did quite enjoy Dip Flat even if it was just a lot of firing blanks.

[The Reibz]

Which service? Airforce?

[Akzle]

The AK uses a 7.62x39 and obviously has less range but in my opinion it is a far superior weapon even for its age. Can field strip the cunt in like 5 seconds and it will fire after being submerged in almost anything. The 7.62 has more penetrating power so it can shoot through concrete block walls and it costs like 40c a round.

i think you'll find it's x54 (ie .308) (and please do not start that debate)
the SKS uses x39 also a very fun gun to shoot, but being that it doesn't fire from an open bolt, takes a bit more doing to get that full auto thing happening...

[huff3r]

Which service? Airforce?

Was. Recently applied to the Army, after 3 years of being a civi. Don't really like any of the trade options in the Airforce.. but don't like being a civi either.

[The Reibz]

i think you'll find it's x54 (ie .308) (and please do not start that debate)


Don't worry. I wont...


Was. Recently applied to the Army, after 3 years of being a civi. Don't really like any of the trade options in the Airforce.. but don't like being a civi either.

Nearly 8 years Navy for me. Hardly touch small arms but it doesn't worry me. Far to busy cruzing round in a 550 million dollar frigate

[jasonu]

:tugger:


.

Hello Pot, this is Kettle...

[jasonu]

Remember, NZ Police get supplied by whoever can supply the cheapest product when a tender goes out.
.

Sounds about right. The Bushmaster is definitely at the lower end of the AR range.

[Mo NZ]

:yes::yes::yes:You have to remember that what ever service you are in is the gear supplied is sourced from the lowest tender.
Totally agree with that. :yes::yes:

[unstuck]

http://cdn.motinetwork.net/motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/1301/trigger-discipline-trigger-discipline-gun-gunnie-demotivational-posters-1358732124.jpg

[scumdog]

i think you'll find it's x54 (ie .308) (and please do not start that debate)
the SKS uses x39 also a very fun gun to shoot, but being that it doesn't fire from an open bolt, takes a bit more doing to get that full auto thing happening...

All the Aks I've had ran on 7.62X39.

But there's a few variants out there so I guess there's a 7.62X54 out there...

[The Reibz]

I always thought the 7.62x54 was for the Draganov but I aint starting a debate...

[Akzle]

I always thought the 7.62x54 was for the Draganov but I aint starting a debate...

fuck me.



I was wrong.
gittin me guns and boolits foncused.

It was the 308 v 7.62nato debate i wanted to avoid.

[Drew]

Yip, read the whole thread and still know nothing about guns!

Just too much technical shit for me to retain I guess.

[Akzle]

[IMG]

what kind of a fucking homo has an electric weedeater?

[unstuck]

what kind of a fucking homo has an electric weedeater?

This kind I guess, a weeteater should have a steel blade as well.:devil2:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/85/222800165_2bbd24857a.jpg

[scumdog]

This kind I guess, a weeteater should have a steel blade as well.:devil2:



You have some odd friends unstuck - must have been a bit cold and wet in your town today 'cos I didn't see them trimming the trees in the centre domes while I was there...

[unstuck]

You have some odd friends unstuck - must have been a bit cold and wet in your town today 'cos I didn't see them trimming the trees in the centre domes while I was there...

Dont forget thunder and lightning.:bleh: Did you get the southland tag while you were here?

[scumdog]

Dont forget thunder and lightning.:bleh: Did you get the southland tag while you were here?

Nah, from the F100 to The Capri and back to the F100 again - too cold and wet as I said.

[unstuck]

:crazy: Very brave of you scummy, tis usually filled with little old ladies with bad attitudes after church on sundays.:eek5:

[Banditbandit]

This kind I guess, a wee teater should have a steel blade as well.:devil2:




Yeah .. that trio probably do have wee teaters ...

[GCSB Thought Police]

You are all just dribbling all over Mrs Hand and her five daughters. So very few of you own the guns you claim to know about.

And of those who do own guns, there are only two or three of you in this thread (you know who you are) that we have any concerns about.

[Banditbandit]

You are all just dribbling all over Mrs Hand and her five daughters. So very few of you own the guns you claim to know about.

And of those who do own guns, there are only two or three of you in this thread (you know who you are) that we have any concerns about.

Bwhahahaha ... If you know so much where were they all in Operation Eight ???? I was waiting ... at home and at work ... and never heard boo ... just my past links at least must have put me on the list ...

[unstuck]

You are all just dribbling all over Mrs Hand and her five daughters. So very few of you own the guns you claim to know about.

And of those who do own guns, there are only two or three of you in this thread (you know who you are) that we have any concerns about.

Im not allowed near firearms, so its not me.:motu:

[Drew]

Im not allowed near firearms, so its not me.:motu:
I haven't picked one up, since the rabbit made the awful crying like a baby noise. I'm safe:rockon:

[unstuck]

I haven't picked one up, since the rabbit made the awful crying like a baby noise. I'm safe:rockon:

Ya big jessie.:2thumbsup

[Drew]

Ya big jessie.:2thumbsupNever felt so bad in all my life. Put another one through it's head, and gave the gun over to the next wannabe.

[Banditbandit]

I haven't picked one up, since the rabbit made the awful crying like a baby noise. I'm safe:rockon:

If you learn to shoot better - you get one-shot instant kills


Never felt so bad in all my life. Put another one through it's head, and gave the gun over to the next wannabe.

Hope you're a vegetarian

[Drew]

If you learn to shoot better - you get one-shot instant kills



Hope you're a vegetarian I'm sure you're right, but I'm happy to let professionals kill my food for me now.

Guy was quite impressed with my accuracy, free standing like, but guns just aren't for me...Although I did wanna have a crack with the bigger gun at targets.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Hope you're a vegetarian

I'm with Drew: I'm a consumer. I pay people to do the yukky jobs so I can have delicious delicious meat that I dont have to think about it being part of a live cute piggy or sheepy or beefy. Or ducky or goosy or chooky or whatever. I just point at it in the butchers and go: yum yum

[Banditbandit]

I like to know where my meat and fish comes from - and what is in it ... the only way you can is to kill your own

[Drew]

I like to know where my meat and fish comes from - and what is in it ... the only way you can is to kill your ownArguably, you'd need to be the one feeding said animal too.

But I get your meaning...Killer.

[Banditbandit]

Arguably, you'd need to be the one feeding said animal too.

But I get your meaning...Killer.

Yeah .. well .. before I moved three years ago I had a small farm - feed sheep, chickens, ducks ... poured minimal drench down their throats ... used bugger all dip .. ate them all ...

So yeah .. I knew what was in my meat ('cept for the wild stuff ...)

[scumdog]

I haven't picked one up, since the rabbit made the awful crying like a baby noise. I'm safe:rockon:

Only worry if it's YOU making the noise Drew...

[Drew]

Only worry if it's YOU making the noise Drew...

Hahahahahahahahahaha, fuckin gold!

[unstuck]

I have shot many animals in the past, but I find myself more and more just enjoying seeing animals in the wild. I think I may be turning into a softcock myself. And before some of you comedians chime in, me and viagra do not mix.:devil2: I have no trouble with fishing or spearing flounder though. I killed a couple of sheep a few weeks ago and did not enjoy it at all, but damn they tasted good. Tis a funny old world, STUPID HUMANS.:lol:

[scumdog]

I have shot many animals in the past, but I find myself more and more just enjoying seeing animals in the wild. I think I may be turning into a softcock myself. And before some of you comedians chime in, me and viagra do not mix.:devil2: I have no trouble with fishing or spearing flounder though. I killed a couple of sheep a few weeks ago and did not enjoy it at all, but damn they tasted good. Tis a funny old world, STUPID HUMANS.:lol:

A bit like you unstuck - nowadays I take what I actually need

Years ago it was kill 'em all.

[unstuck]

A bit like you unstuck - nowadays I take what I actually need

Years ago it was kill 'em all.

Yeah, I sort of had that attitude too for awhile, didn't really give a fuck about anything. I went out with some guys once and there was a mob of fallow in a gully and they just opened up and started shooting everything, even though we could not carry it all out. really fucked me off, and I have never been out with them since. I still use snares for rabbits but not being allowed firearms is a bit tricky for getting anything bigger. I have tried hunting bows, but it is way to expensive for my liking, cheaper to buy the meat. I have tried a love trap before, with mixed results. I can get a kick out of sneaking up on a deer and yelling BOO, but that wont feed me.:Punk::Punk:

[Banditbandit]

I still have hunting bows ... but I'm too old and broken to be that energetic ...

I do appreciate the wildlife and animals ... I also enjoy eating ... so I try to make sure I'm involved in the whole process as much as possible ...

[Swoop]

The AUG is gas operated and is due for replacement in 2015.

I personally don't like the trigger on it, its plastic and needs to be pulled back slightly harder in Automatic mode to get it fire more than 1 round. Its arse to clean, I know guys that have washed theirs out in the showers to assist in getting all the mud out.
Interesting. Any proposed replacements yet? Saying it is being replaced in '15 is like the Endeavour being replaced...
I was around when the introduction of the AUG happened and the list of faults was quite substantial. A plastic piece of crap. It can be very accurate when in the right hands and if it is maintained well - not just cleaned.

[Akzle]

Im not allowed near firearms, so its not me.:motu:
my corporate person isn't either. unfortunately for the crown, i still have a cupboardful.
(wait a while, i'm about to do a thread on shooting cops)

You are all just dribbling all over Mrs Hand and her five daughters. So very few of you own the guns you claim to know about.

And of those who do own guns, there are only two or three of you in this thread (you know who you are) that we have any concerns about.
boring troll is boring. go away.

I haven't picked one up, since the rabbit made the awful crying like a baby noise. I'm safe:rockon:
take up airgunning, it's cheap as shit and just as fun as fullbore, except without the "phunk" noise target loads make in heavy guns.

If you learn to shoot better - you get one-shot instant kills

and if you're really good, a 360 no-scope.


in related news, if you don't eat meat you're probably food. and it's the direct-feed-back-ness that's lacking from society that has lead to such glut. ie, hey do not see the energy cost of their cars (wheras horses shat on you and stood outside the pub, so you got to see the input and output) sames with meat, the wholesale enslavement and slaughter of a species (behind closed doors, out of sight out of mind) means people do not understand the cost of their foodening and have very little respect for it.