Kim.com WTF?

[oldrider]

I need help here, kim.com ... does NZ need him? :confused:

[Madness]

No, but he puts on a mean fireworks display.

[Smifffy]

I need help here, kim.com ... does NZ need him? :confused:

Nah, he actually gives a fuck about things like rights, privacy, and govt intrusion into people's personal lives.


That's not the kiwi way. Get rid of him asap.

the govt surely knows what they are doing, let them get on and do it. Masterchef is on.

[Oakie]

Nah, he actually gives a fuck about things like rights, privacy, and govt intrusion into people's personal lives.


Bwa ha ha! That's why he made millions facilitating a site which made it possible for legitimate business's copyrighted material to be stolen.

[Smifffy]

Bwa ha ha! That's why he made millions facilitating a site which made it possible for legitimate business's copyrighted material to be stolen.

No, that must have been Robin Bain. Dotcom hasn't even been tried on that charge let alone convicted :laugh:

Largely due to more Popo bungling.

[scissorhands]

Robin Bain or Robin Hood?

[paturoa]

I need help here, kim.com ... does NZ need him? :confused:

No. Emphatically no!

His business model was to build a freight forwarding business dealing is a very small quantity of legitimate goods, but in reality everyone knows that the majority of the content was "stolen goods". Arsehole.

The hind-sight legal opinions are different to the foresight legal opinions for GCSB et al. I don't see how that makes his false declarations for residency valid regarding his previous history.

[puddytat]

I think we do need him at the mo, because he is big enough & rich enough to afford the Lawyers to be able to stand up to the disgrace that is the DGSB debacle & the ongoing revelations of PRISM etc etc..... If it wasnt for Dot.com this shit would just slip through like so many others "under urgency" late one night.
Do we need him later what with one thing or another, Im not yet convinced....

[awa355]

Dot.com and John Key deserve each other. Whether NZ deserves either is debatable.

[sil3nt]

The only people that don't like .com are the oldies that watch the news and believe the shit the media tells them.

I asked my parents why they hated .com and they couldn't give an answer. Same with the old cunts at my old job.

Go to youtube search "full movie" first result is iron man 3 ffs!

Yet youtube hasn't had their shit locked away and they know the content is on there!

[puddytat]

Kiwi of The Year ?

http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2013/07/04/kim-dotcom-new-zealander-of-the-year-why-arent-kiwis-furious-at-gcsb-law/

[Hitcher]

Bwa ha ha! That's why he made millions facilitating a site which made it possible for legitimate business's copyrighted material to be stolen.

So does Google, Microsoft, Dropbox, Dump Truck, without mentioning FTP sites.

[Wingnut]

Although I do find it amusing how one wealthy German can cause so much pain for the current government, I would also like to comment that you would be naive to think he is anything more than self serving with his current exploits...

[sil3nt]

Although I do find it amusing how one wealthy German can cause so much pain for the current government, I would also like to comment that you would be naive to think he is anything more than self serving with his current exploits...A self serving businessman? What is the world coming to :no:

[Wingnut]

Haha indeed. My point being that some people seem to regard him as some kind of super hero, man of the people or some thing??? Mind you, if he wore a cape...... Yea naaaa....

[Road kill]

His effect on local law and gov't has been interesting,but I think we should give him to the yanks when the time comes.

He's only one fat German playing on his NZ citizenship,the good will would be worth it and we could watch the hangin' on CNN.

[oldrider]

The only people that don't like .com are the oldies that watch the news and believe the shit the media tells them.

I asked my parents why they hated .com and they couldn't give an answer. Same with the old cunts at my old job.

Go to youtube search "full movie" first result is iron man 3 ffs!

Yet youtube hasn't had their shit locked away and they know the content is on there!


The very reason that I posted this thread.

People around my age group were weaned on the fact that Germans were killing our service men and causing us to be hungry and afraid!

I don't understand what his "crimes" are supposed to be about but I found myself subconsciously wanting to kick his fat arse out of here!

I asked myself why and couldn't answer my own question except for the fact that he is not a New Zealand citizen and is here ruffling our feathers! :oi-grr:

The thread is doing a good job for me and despite the risk of "normal KB behaviour", (bless you) I may get closer to understanding what it's all about!

Thank you people, keep up the good work, cheers, John. :niceone:

[oneofsix]

The very reason that I posted this thread.

People around my age group were weaned on the fact that Germans were killing our service men and causing us to be hungry and afraid!

I don't understand what his "crimes" are supposed to be about but I found myself subconsciously wanting to kick his fat arse out of here!

I asked myself why and couldn't answer my own question except for the fact that he is not a New Zealand citizen and is here ruffling our feathers! :oi-grr:

The thread is doing a good job for me and despite the risk of "normal KB behaviour", (bless you) I may get closer to understanding what it's all about!

Thank you people, keep up the good work, cheers, John. :niceone:

You were also probably told that the Nazi's and Commis were nasty barstards that spied on there own people and got there citizens spying on each other so they could control what their people did. Kind of ironic that now a fat german is fighting against the same behaviour by the NZ and USA govt and "business" interests.

His "crimes" were some sharp business dealings that upset some people by being legal in some countries but not others, so called white collar crimes but the only people he "hurt" were "business men" :baby:

[scissorhands]

He's smart, even that John Banks song release
And hes got some powerful friends too
NZ need a few more men like him
Like him or not


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CvRSZxqk_I

[oneofsix]

His effect on local law and gov't has been interesting,but I think we should give him to the yanks when the time comes.

He's only one fat German playing on his NZ citizenship,the good will would be worth it and we could watch the hangin' on CNN.

you may be disappointed (http://www.vindy.com/news/2012/sep/18/death-row-inmate-says-hes-too-big-to-be-/) :laugh:

I think we should keep him for the entertainment value and he is protecting our freedoms. :done:

[scumdog]

He's really the fat German kid from the Simpsons...

[BoristheBiter]

No,
Just another Gareth Morgan with a gay German accent.
If he had no money he wouldn't even get a mention.

[BoristheBiter]

you may be disappointed (http://www.vindy.com/news/2012/sep/18/death-row-inmate-says-hes-too-big-to-be-/) :laugh:

I think we should keep him for the entertainment value and he is protecting our freedoms. :done:

He not protecting anything. He's a media whore and do anything for attention.

[Drew]

He's a media whore and do anything for attention.Long as I'm entertained, I don't care!

[scumdog]

Maybe we could get him to post on KB!!:devil2:

[BigAl]

Need him or not, the NZ tax payer is going to be paying heaps when he is found 'not guilty' and then sues NZ govt.

Uncle Sam will not give a rats arse.

Bloody PoPo/GCSB sucking up to Yanks and conducting a raid like a 3rd rate Rambo movie.

[unstuck]

To learn how to do something properly, sometimes you have to learn how NOT to do it.:msn-wink:

[Hitcher]

New Zealand's agencies should have asked more questions of the FBI before agreeing to act.
They should have done their own investigation.
They should have reached agreement with the FBI about liability for costs -- no New Zealand laws had been broken.
They should have followed proper process.
They should have briefed their political masters.

They didn't. Now Kim Dotcom, innocence notwithstanding, is rightly entitled to compensation.

[mashman]

Just another guy with lots of cash doing nothing with it worth while.

[george formby]

I keep hearing that NZ needs to increase the size of it's population so under that criteria he should stay.

[AllanB]

I suspect that despite his physical height and girth, he has a really small penis.

[scissorhands]

German sausage big

[Oakie]

but the only people he "hurt" were "business men" :baby:

By that logic then shoplifting from the supermarket is OK because it's just a businessman being hurt?

Look, I quite like the guy ... he's entertaining to listen to but what he allowed to happen is no different to the guy who goes and buys a dvd of some newly released movie, makes 100 copies and then flogs 'em off at half price at the Otara market on Saturday morning. Actually on reflection it is a little different. It's like allowing a whole heap of those guys to make thousands of copies in your garage and then taking 5% of the proceeds. "Honest officer, I let them use the garage but I had no idea they were doing that".

[Drew]

Just another guy with lots of cash doing nothing with it worth while.That's relative I think you'll find.

It's his cash, and if he feels what he's doing is worth it, more power to him.

[Berries]

I keep hearing that NZ needs to increase the size of it's population so under that criteria he should stay.
Nah, he fails on that particular criteria due to not being a Pacific Islander.


Shit, he'd need a lot of nugget.

[BoristheBiter]

Long as I'm entertained, I don't care!

But seriously that doesn't take much :whistle:

[hayd3n]

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4641/youwouldntdlacar.jpg

[unstuck]

I personally think people do not like him because he is wealthy. Seems to bring the worst out in people the old jelousy and envy shit. Hard being a tall(fat) poppy when there are so many moas around.:devil2:

[mashman]

That's relative I think you'll find.

It's his cash, and if he feels what he's doing is worth it, more power to him.

I do wonder if TPTB see the cash as theirs, well the countrys'. Even still, you are correct, it is "his" money (I'd argue that it belongs to the bank, because they issued it and it carry's a debt that some people somewhere in this world will have to repay), he can do with it what he likes, but certainly not more power to him.

[MisterD]

I personally think people do not like him because he is wealthy.

I don't like him because he's a dodgy convicted criminal (data espionage, insider trading, embezzlement since you ask), the sooner we ship him off to the States, the better.

[unstuck]

I don't like him because he's a dodgy convicted criminal (data espionage, insider trading, embezzlement since you ask), the sooner we ship him off to the States, the better.

Dont remember asking, but as you were.:lol::lol:

[huff3r]

By that logic then shoplifting from the supermarket is OK because it's just a businessman being hurt?

Look, I quite like the guy ... he's entertaining to listen to but what he allowed to happen is no different to the guy who goes and buys a dvd of some newly released movie, makes 100 copies and then flogs 'em off at half price at the Otara market on Saturday morning. Actually on reflection it is a little different. It's like allowing a whole heap of those guys to make thousands of copies in your garage and then taking 5% of the proceeds. "Honest officer, I let them use the garage but I had no idea they were doing that".

So if I had a rental property and some folks used it to pirate dvds I should be done for it? Or say they were growing pot, or cooking P even?

It's not the landlords job to watch their tenants business like a hawk to prevent crimes occurring. And surely keeping an eye on a huge file-sharing network would be pretty damn hard even if he did try?

[Smifffy]

I wonder what John Key's bonus from Warner Brothers will be this time around?

[Scuba_Steve]

I don't like him because he's a dodgy criminal (data espionage, insider trading, embezzlement since you ask), the sooner we ship him off to the States, the better.

Damm straight! lets get John Key (& the rest of the politicians for that matter) outta here! Ship them off to the country they're trying to turn us into

[Road kill]

I don't like him because he's a dodgy convicted criminal (data espionage, insider trading, embezzlement since you ask), the sooner we ship him off to the States, the better.

That's the bit most choose to ignore.

He's a common criminal cunt hiding out behind an NZ pass port and our piss weak immigration laws that allows any dirt bag with enough money in.

He's done absolutely nothing for this country out side of pushing his own cause.

Just fuck him off now and this time next week nobody will even remember the prick.

[oneofsix]

That's the bit most choose to ignore.

He's a common criminal cunt hiding out behind an NZ pass port and our piss weak immigration laws that allows any dirt bag with enough money in.

He's done absolutely nothing for this country out side of pushing his own cause.

Just fuck him off now and this time next week nobody will even remember the prick.

Standard miss information pushed out by pro govt. idiots.
He sucked in some white collar criminals at their own game and now has tripped up the so call right wing parties in their own dodgy dealings. He has exposed how the govt. of the so called free world are intending to spy on their own people worse than the vilified draconian govts. He has bought his millions to this country and invested in it.
I understand those who wish to maintain the state of affairs hate him. Must really upset them that they so badly screwed up with their illegal raid based on no more than idea that his business was copying what youtube does.
If he had taken his business to America and contributed to their election campaigns he mightn't have been raided.

[ducatilover]

The DotCom part is meh, but what is the real worry is the U.S.A getting involved in every bit of fuckery outside of their borders. Tell the fat, consumerist, arrogant, oil swilling nation of troglodytes to fuck right off and leave our pretty wee country alone.
I do not agree with the FeddyBI doing what they have, serving some wanker's will and letting our Govt (whom are fabulous at bending over and taking cock, some dominance issue?) run around making fools of themselves.
Then there's the blindly obvious part where this is all set up to be a big fat media frenzy, why not shut down Google? Or any other bunch who deal in illegal file sharing en masse.



Short version, fuck them all.

[gwigs]

That's the bit most choose to ignore.

He's a common criminal cunt hiding out behind an NZ pass port and our piss weak immigration laws that allows any dirt bag with enough money in.

He's done absolutely nothing for this country out side of pushing his own cause.

Just fuck him off now and this time next week nobody will even remember the prick.

Didn,t he put on a Million dollar fireworks display for Auckland ...?
Don,t think anyone forced him to do that..
I agree with oneofsix...+1

[MisterD]

He has exposed how the govt. of the so called free world are intending to spy on their own people worse than the vilified draconian govts.

Edward Snowdon is the skinny American geek currently dossing in a Moscow airport, Kim Dotcom is a fat German self-publicist currently keeping the NZ Harold padded out with "stories"

I know which one we should be helping avoid American "justice".

[oldrider]

Edward Snowdon is the skinny American geek currently dossing in a Moscow airport, Kim Dotcom is a fat German self-publicist currently keeping the NZ Harold padded out with "stories"

I know which one we should be helping avoid American "justice".

Why do we have to help or put up with either of them? At least Snowden has stayed away from here! :yes: That's gotta be a plus!

[gwigs]

At least Snowden has stayed away from here! :yes: That's gotta be a plus!

Of course he stayed away from here , Smiley Faced John Key would have personally handed him over to his Overlords..

[BigAl]

Why do we have to help or put up with either of them? At least Snowden has stayed away from here! :yes: That's gotta be a plus!

We need to retain dotcom because he is the only one at the moment keeping the Govt in check.

Although Winston knows everything "apparently"......

[Banditbandit]

I do not think we "need" Dotcom - except he has based himself here and has earned a lot of money - coming into the NZ economy from overseas ...


His effect on local law and gov't has been interesting,but I think we should give him to the yanks when the time comes.

He's only one fat German playing on his NZ citizenship,the good will would be worth it and we could watch the hangin' on CNN.

Naa .... we should not give into the bullying overbearing tactics of 'Merika ...


Need him or not, the NZ tax payer is going to be paying heaps when he is found 'not guilty' and then sues NZ govt.

Uncle Sam will not give a rats arse.

Bloody PoPo/GCSB sucking up to Yanks and conducting a raid like a 3rd rate Rambo movie.

Yes - exactly ...


I keep hearing that NZ needs to increase the size of it's population so under that criteria he should stay.

He should count for four people ... he's increased his size quite a bit ...


The DotCom part is meh, but what is the real worry is the U.S.A getting involved in every bit of fuckery outside of their borders. Tell the fat, consumerist, arrogant, oil swilling nation of troglodytes to fuck right off and leave our pretty wee country alone.
I do not agree with the FeddyBI doing what they have, serving some wanker's will and letting our Govt (whom are fabulous at bending over and taking cock, some dominance issue?) run around making fools of themselves.
Then there's the blindly obvious part where this is all set up to be a big fat media frenzy, why not shut down Google? Or any other bunch who deal in illegal file sharing en masse.



Short version, fuck them all.

Yes .. all of that - but especially standing up to 'Merika - they can't come and enforce their laws here .. that has no validity - either in international law or in morality ...

IF Dotcom has broken the law - then try him here ... this is where he did what ever he was supposed to have done - IF he really has breached copyright etc etc then he has broken NZ law ... and he should be tried here ...

'Merika can not accuse peope living in this country of breaking 'Merikan law - and expect to have us ship people to 'Merika to be charged there ... otherwise we are all open to those sorts of actions ..

[Road kill]

Didn,t he put on a Million dollar fireworks display for Auckland ...?
Don,t think anyone forced him to do that..
I agree with oneofsix...+1

He put on his little fireworks show for his own reasons,,like self promotion and taking in mugs like you.

So what has he actually done for the country other than dragging us all into arguments with a country we should be on board with.

An don't give me any shit about freedom or playing the world stage for everything it's worth,,,I like that because I know which side my bread is buttered on.

I also like it because that puts me on the winning side and seeing as how I live in the real world,,,that's just fine by me.

If you don't like it,go live in buttfuckistan an let us know how you get on with this feeling for the enemy crap.

[Madness]

So what has he actually done for the country other than dragging us all into arguments with a country we should be on board with.

He's done more than 99.9% of the immigrants who do little else but jack up local property prices, beyond the reach of your average Kiwi first home buyer. Do you not think that conducting an illegal surveillance operation (spying) on KDC was sucking up to the U.S enough already? What's the U.S done for us lately, other than sweet fuck all?

[Scuba_Steve]

So what has he actually done for the country other than dragging us all into arguments with a country we should be on board with.


No your Govt dragged us in & why should we be on board with them? Are you an import?



If you don't like it,go live in buttfuckistan an let us know how you get on with this feeling for the enemy crap.

Why don't you go live in your much loved 'Merika & stop pushing NZ to turn into another state!

[gwigs]

He put on his little fireworks show for his own reasons,,like self promotion and taking in mugs like you.

So what has he actually done for the country other than dragging us all into arguments with a country we should be on board with.

An don't give me any shit about freedom or playing the world stage for everything it's worth,,,I like that because I know which side my bread is buttered on.

I also like it because that puts me on the winning side and seeing as how I live in the real world,,,that's just fine by me.

If you don't like it,go live in buttfuckistan an let us know how you get on with this feeling for the enemy crap.

Even though he put on the freworks he didnt become known to the public till his raid ,I dont remember too much publicity
about the who put on the display at the time.
He came into the spotlight because of the illegal raid on him..I ain,t no mug either and you can go buttfuck yourself..

[Oakie]

So if I had a rental property and some folks used it to pirate dvds I should be done for it? Or say they were growing pot, or cooking P even?

My analogy was not about a landlord. It was about someone letting someone use their own garage. Putting up a site where you have oversite of what goes on is more like that than the rental you describe.


And surely keeping an eye on a huge file-sharing network would be pretty damn hard even if he did try? Not at all. That is part of what your system administrators do.

[hayd3n]

he also donated $$ to the chch earthquakes

[puddytat]

He put on his little fireworks show for his own reasons,,like self promotion and taking in mugs like you.

So what has he actually done for the country other than dragging us all into arguments with a country we should be on board with.

.

Rrrrriiigghhht.....So we should be "onboard" with the illegal surveillance of every thing by them ?
Or by our "own" ? :facepalm:
They make us accountable to them every step of the way in every aspect of our lives....so they should be too.

[oldrider]

he also donated $$ to the chch earthquakes

Whether we realise it or not, so have each and every one of us, in one way or another!

Still have no idea why this guy (dot.com) is even here, there has to be something bigger in it for him besides questionable sanctuary from the (international?) law!

Who actually sponsored him into the country? :confused:

[Berries]

Still have no idea why this guy (dot.com) is even here, there has to be something bigger in it for him besides questionable sanctuary from the (international?) law!
Perhaps he likes the friendly locals.


:facepalm:

[blue rider]

germans like nz....its all the documentary about an empty country with funny parrots, huge insects, flightless birds and few humans.
we especially like the few human part. :rolleyes:

[Road kill]

No your Govt dragged us in & why should we be on board with them? Are you an import?



Why don't you go live in your much loved 'Merika & stop pushing NZ to turn into another state!

Ah yeah,it would of happened if d com hadn't been here in the first place right.

Best try again son.

[Road kill]

germans like nz....its all the documentary about an empty country with funny parrots, huge insects, flightless birds and few humans.
we especially like the few human part. :rolleyes:

Guess that's pretty fucked now huh.:rolleyes:

[Akzle]

Go to youtube search "full movie" first result is iron man 3 ffs!

Yet youtube hasn't had their shit locked away and they know the content is on there!
it's cos they jews.


I asked myself why and couldn't answer my own question except for the fact that he is not a New Zealand citizen and is here ruffling our feathers! :oi-grr:
methink you'll find he IS actually, a NZ citizen.

I don't like him because he's a dodgy convicted criminal (data espionage, insider trading, embezzlement since you ask), the sooner we ship him off to the States, the better.
yes. fucking, shon key has to go!



Kim docom for PM!

[scracha]

Still have no idea why this guy (dot.com) is even here, there has to be something bigger in it for him besides questionable sanctuary from the (international?) law!

What sanctuary? Germany prohibits the extradition of its own citizens so if that was the reason he would have stayed in his home country.



Who actually sponsored him into the country? :confused:

Rich and/or skilled migrants don't need sponsorship.

[Madness]

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Scribe eat your heart out.

[ducatilover]

he also donated $$ to the chch earthquakes TBH earthquakes are not really concerned with financial security. Fuck I best the victims would love money thoguh.




If you don't like it,go live in buttfuckistan.
I looked it up and it's not a country.