WW2 paratroopers motorcycle

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Anybody know much about them here, are there any in NZ. Any body have decent photos that I could use as a plan? Cheers. Darren.:headbang::headbang:

http://www.mopedarmy.com/img/gallery/ww2_wellbike.jpg

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Think I may of found some.:headbang::headbang:

http://www.missing-lynx.com/images/Welbike2.jpg

[jellywrestler]

there's loads around this country, the welbike was the military version and the corgi was the civilian version

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there's loads around this country, the welbike was the military version and the corgi was the civilian version

Cool, I have never personally seen any here. Corgi aye, cheers for that.:niceone:

[jellywrestler]

Cool, I have never personally seen any here. Corgi aye, cheers for that.:niceone:

most museums have got one as they were always a novelty and easy to stick in a corner, hang from the ceiling or stick under a bench in a shed so had a pretty high survival rate

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Have not been to many museums unfortunatly, except for motat, and I dont rmember seeing one there. I am planning to make something similar, but using a klx 110 motor. What sort/ make of motor are they using do you know? cheers.

[swarfie]

Cool, I have never personally seen any here. Corgi aye, cheers for that.:niceone:

There's been one or two on Turdme lately...asking some ridiculous money IMO, hence no sale I guess:confused:

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98cc Excelsior motor. Damn, there is even a corgi with a sidecar.:laugh:

http://classic-motorbikes.net/images/gallery/corgi.jpg

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There's been one or two on Turdme lately...asking some ridiculous money IMO, hence no sale I guess:confused:

Cheers dude.:niceone:

[buggerit]

Don"t think you will get it in the overhead lockers these days, have to go with the cargo, should be handy next time you fly up north:2thumbsup good find.

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Don"t think you will get it in the overhead lockers these days, have to go with the cargo, should be handy next time you fly up north:2thumbsup good find.

:laugh: Yeah, imagine trying to check that case in. This one will be going via chopper, so all good there.:Punk::Punk:

[Swoop]

There is definately one in the Classic Flyers museum on Tauranga airport.
http://www.classicflyersnz.com

[Paul in NZ]

Pretty good info here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welbike

Most of them that are advertised as paratroopers motorcycles are actually the civilian version painted green. The reason they survived in numbers is that they were really crap as a weapon of war and as a civilian runabout. No power and small wheels in a churned up battle field? It was faster to walk even assuming you could find the turgid thing post drop...

However in the post war period people were so hungry for transport of any sort they would purchase anything that went pop pop pop... These things usually crapped out berfore they wore out... The James ML was better and thats not saying much.

When we were young and just getting into bikes it seemed like every second shed had one laying in the corner and of course they were all 'paratroopers bikes' ... pfft.... Buy as shed furniture and thats about it....

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There is definately one in the Classic Flyers museum on Tauranga airport.


Lived in tauranga while at BOP polytech, never knew there was a museum at the airport. You learn something new everyday.:niceone:
Looks like some cool planes there too.:niceone:

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Pretty good info here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welbike

Most of them that are advertised as paratroopers motorcycles are actually the civilian version painted green. The reason they survived in numbers is that they were really crap as a weapon of war and as a civilian runabout. No power and small wheels in a churned up battle field? It was faster to walk even assuming you could find the turgid thing post drop...

However in the post war period people were so hungry for transport of any sort they would purchase anything that went pop pop pop... These things usually crapped out berfore they wore out... The James ML was better and thats not saying much.

When we were young and just getting into bikes it seemed like every second shed had one laying in the corner and of course they were all 'paratroopers bikes' ... pfft.... Buy as shed furniture and thats about it....

Cheers Paul. How would they go on a hard packed gravel beach? Maybe bigger wheels would help too. May as well just get a mountain goat by the sound of it.:baby:

[swarfie]

Cheers Paul. How would they go on a hard packed gravel beach? Maybe bigger wheels would help too. May as well just get a mountain goat by the sound of it.:baby:

A mountain WHAT???...Jeez you really are tiger for punishment aren't you:brick::yes: HaHaHa

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At least there are not many parts to them.:niceone:

http://www.militaryautographs.com/item.asp?itemnum=738

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A mountain WHAT???...Jeez you really are tiger for punishment aren't you:brick::yes: HaHaHa

One of these,
http://hooniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/rokon-prototype-650x425.jpg

Not one of these.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLyAlKHEg8sYX-irclhCXOpBAwVOHRrhiaKU73UHWVWRS7-Hnp

Although if I got cold and lonely.....:blip::blip:

[Paul in NZ]

Cheers Paul. How would they go on a hard packed gravel beach? Maybe bigger wheels would help too. May as well just get a mountain goat by the sound of it.:baby:

They would sink and the best thing you could do would be to leave it at the low tide mark... Honestly they have pram wheels. Would you kids scooters work there?

They are for looking at and for people that like to play dads army.

Almost any chinese pit bike would be better.

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They would sink and the best thing you could do would be to leave it at the low tide mark... Honestly they have pram wheels. Would you kids scooters work there?

They are for looking at and for people that like to play dads army.

Almost any chinese pit bike would be better.

I have a klx 110 motor that I would like to use, just need to keep the whole thing as small and light as possible.:2thumbsup

[jellywrestler]

Have not been to many museums unfortunatly, except for motat, and I dont rmember seeing one there. I am planning to make something similar, but using a klx 110 motor. What sort/ make of motor are they using do you know? cheers.

jeez gore must be a lonely place, they called pit bikes now just go and buy one!

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jeez gore must be a lonely place, they called pit bikes now just go and buy one!

:lol::lol: Yep, can be. I was sort of hoping to make something myself, part of the challange. Plus it will be living on a west coast beach, so not willing to put much money into it. I have motor, wheels and heaps of other bits and peices, so basically just looking at a frame. Plus I will have to lug it around some pretty rugged headlands and shit, so gotta be light. Im getting old ya know.:2thumbsup

[jellywrestler]

:lol::lol: Yep, can be. I was sort of hoping to make something myself, part of the challange. Plus it will be living on a west coast beach, so not willing to put much money into it. I have motor, wheels and heaps of other bits and peices, so basically just looking at a frame. Plus I will have to lug it around some pretty rugged headlands and shit, so gotta be light. Im getting old ya know.:2thumbsup
yip figured it was about the journey...

[98tls]

Any info on the err....bike in the top the top pic mate?

[TLDV8]

Looks to be a Rokon Mike.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rokon_motorcycle

http://www.rokon.com/

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The mountain goat bike 98??

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/news/article.cfm?c_id=9&objectid=122200


They used to be all over the place, could be fun on the hilly stuff.

[TLDV8]

I thought the Mountain Goat was based on the original Rokon but maybe it is the other way round.

[98tls]

:niceone:Interesting stuff,Moto tractors.liked the "wheels can be filled with petrol or water for long trips".

[buggerit]

:lol::lol: Yep, can be. I was sort of hoping to make something myself, part of the challange. Plus it will be living on a west coast beach, so not willing to put much money into it. I have motor, wheels and heaps of other bits and peices, so basically just looking at a frame. Plus I will have to lug it around some pretty rugged headlands and shit, so gotta be light. Im getting old ya know.:2thumbsup

Mate had a peewee 50 that he used for transport out to his digger, chucked it on the counterweight.
What about mountain bike frame with 2T 50?

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:niceone:Interesting stuff,Moto tractors.liked the "wheels can be filled with petrol or water for long trips".

Better than a Gnat.:Punk::Punk:

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Mate had a peewee 50 that he used for transport out to his digger, chucked it on the counterweight.
What about mountain bike frame with 2T 50?

Had thought of that, but I think it would be better with wider wheels. The west coast has some knarley beaches and stuff, probably kill a mountain bike frame. :niceone:

[Bass]

Anybody know much about them here, are there any in NZ. Any body have decent photos that I could use as a plan? Cheers. Darren.:headbang::headbang:



If you are still in Gore, there's one in E Hayes in Invercargill. Was looking at it (and all the other classic goodies) 2 days ago

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If you are still in Gore, there's one in E Hayes in Invercargill. Was looking at it (and all the other classic goodies) 2 days ago

Cheers, thanks for that. May have to find an excuse to go to invegiggle. Dont like going to E-hayes though because they have so much I like to buy.:lol::lol:

[Robbo]

Had thought of that, but I think it would be better with wider wheels. The west coast has some knarley beaches and stuff, probably kill a mountain bike frame. :niceone:

Do you remember the Suzuki RV90's. We had one in the family years ago and it was great on the beaches.

[Robbo]

Suzuki RV 90

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Do you remember the Suzuki RV90's. We had one in the family years ago and it was great on the beaches.

Yes I do remember them, I seem to recall that they were heavy to pick up, not as in lift it back onto its wheel when it falls over, but as in picking up and carrying it. But I suppose something like that would be a good start if I could lighten it enough. Cheers.:Punk::Punk:

[nadroj]

Helium in the tyres?

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Helium in the tyres?

:lol::lol::2thumbsup

[pritch]

The Mountain Goat was designed by a New Plymouth motorcycle dealer John Callender (sp?) and built at Waitara.
This before farm bikes were readily available. When the big four entered the field the Mountain Goat died.






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[jellywrestler]

The Mountain Goat was designed by a New Plymouth motorcycle dealer John Callender (sp?) and built at Waitara.
This before farm bikes were readily available. When the big four entered the field the Mountain Goat died.






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partly correct, Callandar did design it then with the help of Rod Coleman they got in Suzuki motors from japan and motor holdings built them When they relaxed import laws they still virtually prohibited the import of models that were in competition with those built in NZ, while it was nice and lovely to have a new zealand built bike here there was no way it could compete with the japanese produced stuff so Coleman and others put a case forward to drop the import levy on bikes that competed against the mountain goat and was succesful. I think they tried to continue using Kawasaki motors but only made 15 or so???? as opposed to 800 odd suzuki ones

[blackdog]

Suzuki RV 90

I believe White trash has one for sale now.

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partly correct, Callandar did design it then with the help of Rod Coleman they got in Suzuki motors from japan and motor holdings built them When they relaxed import laws they still virtually prohibited the import of models that were in competition with those built in NZ, while it was nice and lovely to have a new zealand built bike here there was no way it could compete with the japanese produced stuff so Coleman and others put a case forward to drop the import levy on bikes that competed against the mountain goat and was succesful. I think they tried to continue using Kawasaki motors but only made 15 or so???? as opposed to 800 odd suzuki ones

The one in that pic is almost exactly the same as the one I used to cart hay around the hills on when I was a kid. They could pull a fair load too. Traction was not great though with a load on, not compared to the Honda atv we got when they first came out. :2thumbsup

[kiwi cowboy]

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLyAlKHEg8sYX-irclhCXOpBAwVOHRrhiaKU73UHWVWRS7-Hnp

Although if I got cold and lonely.....:blip::blip:[/QUOTE]

Sick bastard:spanking:

[kiwi cowboy]

The mountain goat bike 98??

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/news/article.cfm?c_id=9&objectid=122200


They used to be all over the place, could be fun on the hilly stuff.

Dad talks about riding these when rabbiting when he was on the board up Blenheim way years ago.
Also talks about falling off them just as much:laugh:

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Although if I got cold and lonely.....:blip::blip:

Sick bastard:spanking:[/QUOTE]

Your just jealous.:bleh:



I have been thinking about using a frame I already have for this project, but would have to change the angle of the forks methinks, but looks like the klx110 motor will fit.