Frame sliders?

[cfxjason]

hi all today i saw my best mates brand new 1250 bandit sliding down the road he is ok and the bike is not bad at all but seing that realy scared me so now im on the search for some sliders for my 2010 gsx650f it cheeper to have them even if i never use em,so does anyone now how much and were from and do i need to do any mods to the plastics to fit them (i hope not)...cheers all

[Erelyes]

I'd suggest having a read of this viewpoint on them.

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/I_want_to_install_frame_sliders

I quickly discounted them. If you have expensive protruding engine bits to protect, they may well be worthwhile. If your bike's engine is protected by the fairings anyways, I don't know that I'd bother.

Have heard anecdotally that if they catch on something (cat's eye, pothole, water valve cover, kerb, etc) they will do a lovely job of twisting or breaking whatever they're mounted to - which will usually be your frame or engine.

[Gremlin]

Slow speed stuff, likely to help.

As said above, if they catch on anything, then they can ruin the frame of the bike (and that's usually a write off in itself) or flip the bike when it catches. A motorcycle that has flipped is usually a write off candidate as well :sunny:

[Biggles08]

hi all today i saw my best mates brand new 1250 bandit sliding down the road he is ok and the bike is not bad at all but seing that realy scared me so now im on the search for some sliders for my 2010 gsx650f it cheeper to have them even if i never use em,so does anyone now how much and were from and do i need to do any mods to the plastics to fit them (i hope not)...cheers all

http://www.bigknobs.com.au/ and tell Paul Biggles sent you.

They are great to protect vaunerable parts of your bike from damage in a slide but will not stop scratches. It depends what you want them for and it really depends on the design/build quality as to the outcome. Paul designs them to protect your bike in a crash which is afterall what they are for. If you just want good wank value, go get some generic "no cut" sliders that will most likely trash your bike even more if you crash...but hey, until then they will look cool.

Remember, you get what you pay for.

Biggles

[Mushu]

It seems to me that frame sliders are just as likely to turn a small slide into a write off event as they are to protect anything important.

If you're really worried about dropping your bike a crash cage might do the trick, not sure what they cost but the fact that they are bolted in several places should make them less likely to damage your frame in a crash but still may digg in and cause your bike to flip rather than slide.

There is the other point that if you wind up under the bike the protruding sliders or cage could potentially do you some damage too.

[cfxjason]

mmmm not sure what to do a i want them to protect the plastics,but then again i have allways wanted a naked/street fighter that would solve the problem all id need is some case savers....mmmmmm

[Drew]

The plastics are not the bit that'll get the protection usually. It's near on impossible to have stuff sticking out far enough to be able to work with any consistency.

Every now and again they work, but usually not.

Engine covers however, are BOSS. Particularly on nearly any multi cylinder Suzuki. Drop it on the left, and it'll piss oil from the stator cover nearly every time. So the kevlar/carbon covers that fit over them are good.

[HenryDorsetCase]

My street triple came with crash bungs which are FUGLY. I have fitted a set of GB Racing engine covers and am considering removing the ugly huge sticky outy pieces of crap. Having said that I decked my Hornet 900 on a trackday and the crash bung saved the fuel tank and radiator so there was that.

check out the pix in this thread:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/44596-There-is-one-in-every-group-and-yesterday

[Drew]

My street triple came with crash bungs which are FUGLY. I have fitted a set of GB Racing engine covers and am considering removing the ugly huge sticky outy pieces of crap. Having said that I decked my Hornet 900 on a trackday and the crash bung saved the fuel tank and radiator so there was that.

check out the pix in this thread:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/44596-There-is-one-in-every-group-and-yesterday

I crashed my Hornet, and the oggy knob broke the engine mount off the bloody barells. Slow crash, could have ridden the bike home if it weren't for all the oil coming out of the hole.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I crashed my Hornet, and the oggy knob broke the engine mount off the bloody barells. Slow crash, could have ridden the bike home if it weren't for all the oil coming out of the hole.

Yowch. that sucks. I think I will go take the ones of the sTreet tRiple right now...

[Drew]

Yowch. that sucks. I think I will go take the ones of the sTreet tRiple right now...

Depends on where they mount I guess. But doubling angine mounts with four to six inches of leverage is not the best idea anyone ever came up with.

[SPP]

http://www.bigknobs.com.au/ If you just want good wank value, go get some generic "no cut" sliders that will most likely trash your bike even more if you crash...but hey, until then they will look cool.

Biggles


The plastics are not the bit that'll get the protection usually. It's near on impossible to have stuff sticking out far enough to be able to work with any consistency.

Every now and again they work, but usually not.

Engine covers however, are BOSS. Particularly on nearly any multi cylinder Suzuki. Drop it on the left, and it'll piss oil from the stator cover nearly every time. So the kevlar/carbon covers that fit over them are good.

This.

For the most part I’ve gone off frame sliders. I’ve seen them shear and flange the frame, shear and punch holes in other parts, rotate and fuck the frame and plastics. No-cut are probably the worst but even direct mount will shear if they hit anything (long). I have some very low profile woodcraft in the shed that won’t save the plastics but could save rub through damage.

Low profile axle sliders and engine covers, these can avoid a trailer home. Take a squiz at Woodcraft or GB Racing engine covers. I have a set of GB Racing covers which are okay and Woodcraft do case replacements with thick alloy slide plates.

[AllanB]

Engine mounted Hornet crash bungs have a bit of a rep for breaking the engine mounts. Honda's own ones frame mount them.

I moved my engine mounted ones to the frame after seeing pix of broken engine mounts.

My theory is they are great for tips or low speed offs. The save a lot of damage in earthquakes!!!!! My theory extends to this - if I have a big off, then I'd probably prefer the knob to flip the bike so it is well fucked and a write off, as I'd hate a patch up!

[SPP]

Engine mounted Hornet crash bungs have a bit of a rep for breaking the engine mounts. Honda's own ones frame mount them.

I moved my engine mounted ones to the frame after seeing pix of broken engine mounts.

My theory is they are great for tips or low speed offs. The save a lot of damage in earthquakes!!!!! My theory extends to this - if I have a big off, then I'd probably prefer the knob to flip the bike so it is well fucked and a write off, as I'd hate a patch up!

True. Mounting sticky-out things to the engine is asking for trouble.

[cfxjason]

mmmm i mite go naked and get some case savers i have always wanted a naked bike ..now all i need is some naked bandit lights and mounts ? ? ? lol

[pzkpfw]

Engine mounted Hornet crash bungs have a bit of a rep for breaking the engine mounts. Honda's own ones frame mount them.

I moved my engine mounted ones to the frame after seeing pix of broken engine mounts.

My theory is they are great for tips or low speed offs. The save a lot of damage in earthquakes!!!!! My theory extends to this - if I have a big off, then I'd probably prefer the knob to flip the bike so it is well fucked and a write off, as I'd hate a patch up!

Erm, as I think about my own sliders - would an insurance company get iffy about them? (re: the write off ...)

[Drew]

Erm, as I think about my own sliders - would an insurance company get iffy about them? (re: the write off ...)

Ask your insurer. "Would you prefer the crash bungs on or off"? When they answer, say you will comply with their preference for reduced excess or premium.

[pritch]

It's all swings and roundabouts. I was concerned about a low speed drop so have R&G sliders. Have also used Sato racing sliders previously.

Didn't have sliders on the VFR, nice design but expensive.

R&G offer a large range of sliders: axle, engine and handlebar, case covers, case guards, and probably etc. To buy all that would cost a bomb, potentially to save the insurance company money.

[AllanB]

I've looked at R&G axle sliders for my bike. Just cause I am always web searching looking for shit I cannot afford!!!!

Do they actually do any good in reality? And as I noted before if you prang it and the axle sliders do preserve the forks how stuffed is the rest of the bike?

I have even seen muffler crash bungs!

[SPP]

I've looked at R&G axle sliders for my bike. .. Do they actually do any good in reality?

And as I noted before if you prang it and the axle sliders do preserve the forks how stuffed is the rest of the bike?

I have even seen muffler crash bungs!

Depends, could be minor, could be fucked.

I have axle sliders to keep the forks and swing arm pretty and engine covers to avoid a trailer home. Casings grind down like they're made of cheese.

[toebug]

http://www.bigknobs.com.au/ and tell Paul Biggles sent you.

Biggles

+1 on the bigknobs sliders. I have crashed my bike several times with these sliders and they are mint, next any damage to my bike just a little wearing of the sliders and Paul is a top man to deal with.

[nzspokes]

I moved my Oggys on the Hornet to the frame then latter that week had a low speed step off. The oggy is scratched and it broke a peg and bent a lever. Repairs cost $20. No other damage.

Worth it in my book.

My Bandit had engine bars and it went for a slide. Bars were stuffed but motor was fine.

Again worth it and I would get bars for the Hornet if I could.

[Gremlin]

Again worth it and I would get bars for the Hornet if I could.
Givi makes engine bars for the CB900. I have them. No idea how truly effective they are as I've only dropped it once stationary.

[nzspokes]

Givi makes engine bars for the CB900. I have them. No idea how truly effective they are as I've only dropped it once stationary.

You cant get the Givi ones any more, or so im told.

[Drew]

Make them. Use chrome moly though, and have it TIG welded.

[FlowRider]

mmmm i mite go naked and get some case savers i have always wanted a naked bike ..now all i need is some naked bandit lights and mounts ? ? ? lol

naked bikez r for homoz fairings r ways beter

[toebug]

naked bikez r for homoz fairings r ways beter

Other way around isnt it? Fairings = NANA KNICKERS = Homo.......:nya:


Caution; Plastic may cause gayness.......

[Trade_nancy]

I wanted crash knobs for my earlier faired bike (Triumph Sprint) and when I asked the parts supplier I was dealing with - VGC spares,...he advised me against using them. As someone who buys and sells bikes - he had seen cases of damage being intensified by the installation of the knobs. When your bike goes from under you and slides down the road at a gentle pace - I gather the knobs can help to minimise damage...BUT if the knob digs in to soft earth, or hits something small...whatever...it tends to make the bike stop really fast and come back up into orbit and back to ground very hard...causing terminal damage. It was his opinion and I took it as a valid argument agin using them - and haven't. However, I have read of forum reports from other faired Triumph riders who have gently dropped or tipped their bikes over - to have the knobs save their fairings from cosmetic damage.

[Mushu]

naked bikez r for homoz fairings r ways beter

Says a guy who rides a Hyobag GT250, guess what most peoples opinion of those is.

[buggerit]

hi all today i saw my best mates brand new 1250 bandit sliding down the road he is ok and the bike is not bad at all but seing that realy scared me so now im on the search for some sliders for my 2010 gsx650f it cheeper to have them even if i never use em,so does anyone now how much and were from and do i need to do any mods to the plastics to fit them (i hope not)...cheers all

I got some GSG knobs for my Bandit, they are made in Germany and apparently any aftermarket stuff you fit to a bike there has to be
tested and proven not to damage the bike, these knobs have a good rep as far as I could find and am impressed with the fitup and
finish.

[SPP]

If there are ones that work I’d be interested.

I can’t recommend the generic ones though, they’re shit....looked the part tho’.

Would’ve buffed out but notice the space where the slider should be and the hole in the tank where the slider was. Petrol pissing everywhere and frame little bit poo’d.