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Banditbandit
8th July 2013, 15:49
And yet another police shooting - again, this one sounds justified ... and they didn't hit anyone else ...
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/17906820/police-identify-offender-dead-after-chase/
sil3nt
8th July 2013, 15:51
Cheaper than putting them in prison surely?
toebug
8th July 2013, 15:52
And some people just deserve it......:ar15:
Crasherfromwayback
8th July 2013, 15:54
And yet another police shooting - again, this one sounds justified ... and they didn't hit anyone else ...
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/17906820/police-identify-offender-dead-after-chase/
Best result possible for a prick that stabs two old folk in their own home and steals their shit.
buggerit
8th July 2013, 16:04
Best result possible for a prick that stabs two old folk in their own home and steals their shit.
Just a bit quick:ar15::ar15:
Scuba_Steve
8th July 2013, 16:09
"Three separate investigations are being carried out into the shooting."
:scratch: Why???
unstuck
8th July 2013, 16:09
Not far from the shit ponds, should of thrown the remains in there.:Punk::Punk:
Crasherfromwayback
8th July 2013, 16:11
"Three separate investigations are being carried out into the shooting."
:scratch: Why???
Because we love wasting our tax dollars on wankers like him. I mean...his family will be telling us he's a gentle man...so must be the police's fault.
I like this new Police approach to burglars. 100% non reoffender outcome. Statistics have proven that not once has a dead crim reoffended.
Just wait for the bleating family to moan, oh the injustice, our little Jonny was such a good man who wouldn't hurt a soul and when he wasn't in the clink he was a loving dad, so long as he was sober.
Gremlin
8th July 2013, 16:12
Cheaper than putting them in prison surely?
Like that would have happened.
However, the nice policemen have saved us a lengthy trial, and lots of related expenses :2thumbsup
mansell
8th July 2013, 16:12
"Three separate investigations are being carried out into the shooting."
:scratch: Why???
To stop the winging bastards (including a few on this site) from blaming the police for doing their fucking job. IMHO it must be a shit job, you would spend all your days dealing with the detritus of society and then if you make one little slip up everyone is out for a piece of you.
Banditbandit
8th July 2013, 16:15
To stop the winging bastards (including a few on this site) from blaming the police for doing their fucking job. IMHO it must be a shit job, you would spend all your days dealing with the detritus of society and then if you make one little slip up everyone is out for a piece of you.
We don't hear about the "little slip-ups" - Only the fucking big ones .. that land innocent people in jail and innocent bystanders dead !!!
(In this case none applies .. he's dead because he shot at police .. got what he deserved) ...
mashman
8th July 2013, 16:16
Because we love wasting our tax dollars on wankers like him. I mean...his family will be telling us he's a gentle man...so must be the police's fault.
If we had have given him an extra $300/week, perhaps he wouldn't have committed the crimes. Him ending up dead is a sweet justice in ways, but still, he may not have slashed those people had he had the cash for whatever he wanted... just sayin like.
Crasherfromwayback
8th July 2013, 16:18
If we had have given him an extra $300/week, perhaps he wouldn't have committed the crimes. Him ending up dead is a sweet justice in ways, but still, he may not have slashed those people had he had the cash for whatever he wanted... just sayin like.
How do you know he's not a brain fried meth cook making $10,000 a day and just wanted a gun?
Fantastic result. Props to the scumbag for choosing the ideal place to make his last stand, ensuring efficient sentencing with minimal risk to the public. Awesome to see my tax dollar and fines being put to great use. Good work NZ Police. Please shoot more scumbags ok thx bye.
scumdog
8th July 2013, 17:37
How do you know he's not a brain fried meth cook making $10,000 a day and just wanted a gun?
Must spread rep.
I for sure would not wanting somebody given another $300 more a week to help his recreational drug bill, Fuck him, who else would get it?
The Reibz
8th July 2013, 17:41
Welcome to the mean streets of Albany
unstuck
8th July 2013, 17:43
I always thought sunset road was in sunnynook, just sayin.:cool:
The Reibz
8th July 2013, 17:46
Either way. North Shore Bitch! (Throws up gangsigns)
Nah fuck that im from Kelston. Only moved out here coz its close to work and has a low burglary rate.
Motorway has been closed most of the day. Sucks to be a cager today
unstuck
8th July 2013, 17:48
Either way. North Shore Bitch! (Throws up gangsigns) and has a low burglary rate.
Only cos I moved away westie.:Punk::Punk:
Akzle
8th July 2013, 18:09
he's dead because he shot at police .. got what he deserved) ...
i would suggest that he shot at police because they shot at him.
the police are not paid to act as judge jury and executioner. there's a justice system for that. (the fact that it doesn't work and costs you all fuckloads while making jews rich is another thread)
i would not trust the police to act as judge.
i would suggest that de-escalation is a better path.
while he may have been scum, it is not the polices job to murder scum. and while i would (after being fully appraised of the facts) make the decision and kill him myself, i can't believe any of the police were.
police. carry on with this shit and you will be shot, and i have much better aim than he apparently did.
mansell
8th July 2013, 18:14
i would suggest that he shot at police because they shot at him.
the police are not paid to act as judge jury and executioner. there's a justice system for that. (the fact that it doesn't work and costs you all fuckloads while making jews rich is another thread)
i would not trust the police to act as judge.
i would suggest that de-escalation is a better path.
while he may have been scum, it is not the polices job to murder scum. and while i would (after being fully appraised of the facts) make the decision and kill him myself, i can't believe any of the police were.
police. carry on with this shit and you will be shot, and i have much better aim than he apparently did.
Point proved.
Woodman
8th July 2013, 18:16
If we had have given him an extra $300/week, perhaps he wouldn't have committed the crimes. Him ending up dead is a sweet justice in ways, but still, he may not have slashed those people had he had the cash for whatever he wanted... just sayin like.
So money is the answer? Thought so.
Good job NZ Police,
Laava
8th July 2013, 18:19
i would suggest that he shot at police because they shot at him.
the police are not paid to act as judge jury and executioner. there's a justice system for that. (the fact that it doesn't work and costs you all fuckloads while making jews rich is another thread)
i would not trust the police to act as judge.
i would suggest that de-escalation is a better path.
while he may have been scum, it is not the polices job to murder scum. and while i would (after being fully appraised of the facts) make the decision and kill him myself, i can't believe any of the police were.
police. carry on with this shit and you will be shot, and i have much better aim than he apparently did.
The police will shoot first ONLY if they are being threatened with a gun.
Surely you must know that?
So you wanting to try it out yourself? Having a bad week Rob?
Crasherfromwayback
8th July 2013, 18:27
police. carry on with this shit and you will be shot, and i have much better aim than he apparently did.
That...I'd pay to watch.
Akzle
8th July 2013, 18:31
The police will shoot first ONLY if they are being threatened with a gun.
Surely you must know that?
So you wanting to try it out yourself? Having a bad week Rob?
no i'm actually fair floating. mate got married the other day, and shit's just nice.
except i'm nearly out of 2 minute noodles, my bike truck and car are simultaneously fucked and i got no money or smokes and the homebrew innt ready for another week or 2.
but yeah nah, vide est dulche
i will have to hear the full facts of i before i can decide. did he stop and try to shoot them? was he firing out of the vehicle (it doesn' sound like it, from all accounts) did they spike him, then run up to his car pointing guns and yelling "POLICE, WE JUST WATCHED BAD BOYS II HOO-RAH", where was the tasers, pepper spray, knuckle dusters, quarter pikes or LRADs at? why didn't they shoot out his knee or shoulder? why couldn't they resolve the thing peacefully?
so many questions that will probably not get answered.
the police, in my experience with them with guns, are entirely too keen to wave them around.
and having seen them at various ranges (they had one closed down, becase bobby A shot bobby B in the foot) their actual proficiency with firearms is lacking.
just saying, if they're gonna go usRAMBO styles on me, i'll be taking a few down first.
this is NEW ZEALAND not AMERICA.
(but seriously, anyone want to buy 20 shotguns?)
scumdog
8th July 2013, 18:34
no i'm actually fair floating. mate got married the other day, and shit's just nice.
except i'm nearly out of 2 minute noodles, my bike truck and car are simultaneously fucked and i got no money or smokes and the homebrew innt ready for another week or 2.
but yeah nah, vide est dulche
i will have to hear the full facts of i before i can decide. did he stop and try to shoot them? was he firing out of the vehicle (it doesn' sound like it, from all accounts) did they spike him, then run up to his car pointing guns and yelling "POLICE, WE JUST WATCHED BAD BOYS II HOO-RAH", where was the tasers, pepper spray, knuckle dusters, quarter pikes or LRADs at? why didn't they shoot out his knee or shoulder? why couldn't they resolve the thing peacefully?
so many questions that will probably not get answered.
the police, in my experience with them with guns, are entirely too keen to wave them around.
and having seen them at various ranges (they had one closed down, becase bobby A shot bobby B in the foot) their actual proficiency with firearms is lacking.
just saying, if they're gonna go usRAMBO styles on me, i'll be taking a few down first.
this is NEW ZEALAND not AMERICA.
(but seriously, anyone want to buy 20 shotguns?)
Fuck you post some utter shit...:rolleyes:
"but yeh nah" - WTF, so indecisive too
Kickaha
8th July 2013, 18:34
why couldn't they resolve the thing peacefully?
Fuckem, no sympathy
(but seriously, anyone want to buy 20 shotguns?)
Only if you got an AA12 or Spas-12 in that lot
SMOKEU
8th July 2013, 18:37
The police will shoot first ONLY if they are being threatened with a gun.
Surely you must know that?
NZ police have also shot offenders who were armed with only a knife or hammer.
(but seriously, anyone want to buy 20 shotguns?)
How much?
scumdog
8th July 2013, 18:40
(but seriously, anyone want to buy 20 shotguns?)
Do they come with spare flints and a keg of powder??
Dude stabs some innocent people in their own home. Steals shit from them and goes on a high speed road trip. Gets followed by cops who want to stop him. He fires pot shots at the cops.
At that point he became target practice, pure and simple. I am very grateful to our police tonight for getting a loose canon like that off the roads, and out of our communities, permanently. I really hope the cop that fired the fatal shot gets REALLY good support. Must be a horrible thing to have to do in the line of duty.
No doubt we will hear more about him in time to come. Already we hear he was discharged from the Army for behaviour issues. Sounds to me like this youngster, lets not forget he was only 20, was a problem child before this latest episode.
Still, sad for his mom though tonight.
The Reibz
8th July 2013, 18:58
This guy had army training, even if it wasn't much. Thank god no cops died.
The outcome could have been much worse.
Atleast it shows the northshore police are doing the job, instead of just pulling me over on the Albany highway or racing to save someones split latte which was split during a tragic nose to tail on Tristran Avenue. Well done NZ Police.
Still, sad for his mom though tonight
Yep, so am I.
Ocean1
8th July 2013, 19:15
Already we hear he was discharged from the Army for behaviour issues. Sounds to me like this youngster, lets not forget he was only 20, was a problem child before this latest episode.
Perhaps the Army isn't the last chance to instil some discipline for guys like that. But maybe they could be. I'd like to see them given back some of the tools that used to work for such cases, before the world got all indignant about discipline.
Akzle
8th July 2013, 19:16
Dude stabs some innocent people in their own home. Steals shit from them and goes on a high speed road trip. Gets followed by cops who want to stop him. He fires pot shots at the cops.
those the facts are they?
I query that peoples automatically assume the police to be correct, my experience proves to the contrarywise.
Also spas12s are heavy, and illegal i think. Check out the 12x16 shotty. Badassery.
Edbear
8th July 2013, 19:17
Dude stabs some innocent people in their own home. Steals shit from them and goes on a high speed road trip. Gets followed by cops who want to stop him. He fires pot shots at the cops.
At that point he became target practice, pure and simple. I am very grateful to our police tonight for getting a loose canon like that off the roads, and out of our communities, permanently. I really hope the cop that fired the fatal shot gets REALLY good support. Must be a horrible thing to have to do in the line of duty.
No doubt we will hear more about him in time to come. Already we hear he was discharged from the Army for behaviour issues. Sounds to me like this youngster, lets not forget he was only 20, was a problem child before this latest episode.
Still, sad for his mom though tonight.
When they finally managed to spike the tyres and he crashed into the wall, he started firing at the Police through the window, The Police fired back. Guess who won?
Katman
8th July 2013, 19:23
The police will shoot first ONLY if they are being threatened with a gun.
Remember Stephen Wallace?
scumdog
8th July 2013, 19:29
Remember Stephen Wallace?
He didn't say they WOULDN'T shoot if you only had a golf-club in your hands...
Smifffy
8th July 2013, 19:32
Remember Stephen Wallace?
The pissed dude, smashing up the town with golf clubs and a softball bat?
If someone says "Stop or I will shoot" and you don't stop, then they should shoot.
pete376403
8th July 2013, 19:32
A bit of a worry that (if the TV news report was correct) until the spikes were deployed the stolen ute was able to outrun the Popo Commodores - are they really that gutless /worn out ?
Brian d marge
8th July 2013, 19:34
So the guy is 20 odd
he gets canned from the army
his facebook page is a nutjobs dream
One suspects he hasnt been a choirboy and might be regarded as a fruitloop
Was this picked up before he went rambo like ?
Oh well at least no one else got hurt , thats a plus I suppose
Stephen
Smifffy
8th July 2013, 19:34
A bit of a worry that (if the TV news report was correct) until the spikes were deployed the stolen ute was able to outrun the Popo Commodores - are they really that gutless /worn out ?
Nah, the cops just crash them whenever they try to push on. See the cop car fail thread for pics :bleh::Police::bleh:
Katman
8th July 2013, 19:37
The pissed dude, smashing up the town with golf clubs and a softball bat?
If someone says "Stop or I will shoot" and you don't stop, then they should shoot.
I'm not so sure I'd want to see guns becoming used as the first choice for getting someone to stop.
America's no great role model.
duckonin
8th July 2013, 19:42
If someone says "Stop or I will shoot" and you don't stop, then they should shoot.
Is this just for 'police' to do or can we all get in on the act ? :eek5:
Edbear
8th July 2013, 19:44
A bit of a worry that (if the TV news report was correct) until the spikes were deployed the stolen ute was able to outrun the Popo Commodores - are they really that gutless /worn out ?
it's a worry when a pick up can outrun the Police. Must be a bit more to the story, surely.
Smifffy
8th July 2013, 19:44
I'm not so sure I'd want to see guns being used as the first choice for getting someone to stop.
America's no great role model.
Possibly why Tasers have been introduced in the meantime.
Edbear
8th July 2013, 19:46
Is this just for 'police' to do or can we all get in on the act ? :eek5:
I guess it depends whether you are holding a gun or not... ;)
Smifffy
8th July 2013, 19:46
Is this just for 'police' to do or can we all get in on the act ? :eek5:
If you feel your life is in imminent peril, then you have my permission. You will also be the subject of an intense investigation and likely prosecution. Still - judged by 12 or carried by 6....
scumdog
8th July 2013, 19:49
it's a worry when a pick up can outrun the Police. Must be a bit more to the story, surely.
Possibly he took more risks.drove dangerously?
(Cutting blind corners etc)
Smifffy
8th July 2013, 19:53
I'm fairly sure that if he had got to wherever he was going and wasted a bunch of people there, then the cops would have been roundly criticised for not stopping him by any means possible before then. As it was he got from Opotiki to the Shore...
I'm not so sure I'd want to see guns becoming used as the first choice for getting someone to stop.
America's no great role model.Woah woah woah, didn't the police had chased that guy all over the place? When they went to the house, the dumb fuck carried a club toward a non clear glass window and was backlit. Cops gave him several chances to "drop it", "stop", "you're gonna fucken regret this".
Or am I thinking of a different case?
Edbear
8th July 2013, 19:55
Possibly he took more risks.drove dangerously?
(Cutting blind corners etc)
More than likely. :yes: And utes handle pretty well these days.
Katman
8th July 2013, 20:00
Or am I thinking of a different case?
I think so Drew.
unstuck
8th July 2013, 20:01
I myself have been involved in 3 armed offender callouts, and it puts the fuckin shits up ya I tells ya. Im the first one on the ground.:baby:
I think so Drew.
So you're talking about the other dumb fuck, who was smashing windows at a school or summat, and the cops came up on him saying "stop", "put down the weapon", "you're gonna regret this".
I myself have been involved in 3 armed offender callouts, and it puts the fuckin shits up ya I tells ya. Im the first one on the ground.:baby:
Guy that works for me walking through Cannons creek as a lad, armed defenders came up on him because he was approaching the pub some scumbag was in. Reckons he couldn't move or speak when the cop stuck a gun in his face. Totally paralised.
Doesn't sound like fun to me, I'd be on my belly slithering away I imagine.
I myself have been involved in 3 armed offender callouts, and it puts the fuckin shits up ya I tells ya. Im the first one on the ground.:baby:
Wait. THREE?
No fuckin wonder you're not allowed guns anymore!
unstuck
8th July 2013, 20:07
Guy that works for me walking through Cannons creek as a lad, armed defenders came up on him because he was approaching the pub some scumbag was in. Reckons he couldn't move or speak when the cop stuck a gun in his face. Totally paralised.
Doesn't sound like fun to me, I'd be on my belly slithering away I imagine.
I have had gang members pointing guns at me before, But the AOS is a whole new world. Especially when your a stoned 15yr old chillin in your mum and dads house.:sweatdrop
I have had gang members pointing guns at me before, But the AOS is a whole new world. Especially when your a stoned 15yr old chillin in your mum and dads house.:sweatdrop
I have lead a sheltered life indeed....Thank fuck!
oldrider
8th July 2013, 20:12
More than likely. :yes: And utes handle pretty well these days.
The open road maximum speed limit is 100Kph ... if you exceed this you deserve to be shot! ... apparently.
He got what he deserved ... apparently. :mellow:
unstuck
8th July 2013, 20:12
Wait. THREE?
No fuckin wonder you're not allowed guns anymore!
Only 1 of those was anything to do with me.:2guns: The one at my folks house was because my dads car got nicked the night before outside the pub, and was used to break some real bad dudes out of the mount, and the AOS surronded the house the following morning. Another time, one of my flatmates was in his room pissed and suicidal and rung the cops saying he was going to shoot himself and everyone in the area. Dont want to talk about the third one.:(
Edbear
8th July 2013, 20:16
The open road maximum speed limit is 100Kph ... if you exceed this you deserve to be shot! ... apparently.
He got what he deserved ... apparently. :mellow:
I do suspect that shooting at the Police wasn't such a good idea, either... Just sayin'... :rolleyes:
Laava
8th July 2013, 20:33
just saying, if they're gonna go usRAMBO styles on me, i'll be taking a few down first.
this is NEW ZEALAND not AMERICA.
(but seriously, anyone want to buy 20 shotguns?)[/color]
Why? What have you done?
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why didn't they shoot out his knee or shoulder?
4/10. I know you can do better.
scumdog
8th July 2013, 20:48
4/10. I know you can do better.
4/10?
You give him too much credit!
Edbear
8th July 2013, 20:57
4/10?
You give him too much credit!
Maybe she was judging his trolling?
Road kill
8th July 2013, 22:20
it's a worry when a pick up can outrun the Police. Must be a bit more to the story, surely.
Here's a guess.
Every time they got to close he shot at them.
I've never been shot at with a center fire but I've seen the results plenty of times and I bet the cops being shot at have as well.
Milts
8th July 2013, 23:01
Not entirely true here, but still related:
http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/C/v/3/Mental-Health-Care.jpg
pete376403
8th July 2013, 23:24
Woah woah woah, didn't the police had chased that guy all over the place? When they went to the house, the dumb fuck carried a club toward a non clear glass window and was backlit. Cops gave him several chances to "drop it", "stop", "you're gonna fucken regret this".
Or am I thinking of a different case?
That sounds more like the one in Petone years ago, after some gang agro involving a rifle at the Hutt Park hotel? Guys last name was Chase, police went to his house very early in the morning, he came to the door holding a steel bar - police assumed it was the rifle and acted accordingly.
oldrider
9th July 2013, 00:18
That sounds more like the one in Petone years ago, after some gang agro involving a rifle at the Hutt Park hotel? Guys last name was Chase, police went to his house very early in the morning, he came to the door holding a steel bar - police assumed it was the rifle and acted accordingly.
Damned if they do ... damned if the don't ... shoot first and then read them their rights, it helps to calm the situation down a bit! :niceone:
Akzle
9th July 2013, 00:19
Why? What have you done?
no harm, y'see.
But that doesnt mean its legal.
The expectation that i will comply because theyre in a silly hat is too entrenchd in their heads. Unfortunately, if you dont muster as a good little citizen must, you're dog fodder.
scissorhands
9th July 2013, 01:08
http://l.yimg.com/ao/i/nz/news/caleb630.jpg
bit of an unusual face, looks a bit stoned too in this barracks photo....
the baby face indicates problems
how many gangsters were called baby face...
'Henry' is a French surname
maybe he was pissed they got dicked in the rugby?
very high forehead, youthful looking....
I'm going to go with an ex military gun nut with possibly autism like interpersonal problems and a drug issue.
Undiagnosed autisms, even very very mild ones, need closer scrutiny than this. Especially ex military personnel
His bebo page has many military references, also some weed and gang symbolism, the main photo delineates an innocent child in white looking downward in a dark forest....http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=7871787250
A bit of a worry that (if the TV news report was correct) until the spikes were deployed the stolen ute was able to outrun the Popo Commodores - are they really that gutless /worn out ?
bit of a worry for sure, he could have hurt an innocent person hurtling along from opotiki to the shore
I would have organised sniper shooters to take out tyres sometime much sooner that 7 hours later
He passed near Hamilton so its not like armed offenders were not handy?
At the very least the southern motorway into orks
Even the police chopper could have dropped something in front of the vehicle as roads were closed....
I guess at the end of the day the cops cant follow everyone around all the time, and shit like this may always happen
Akzle
9th July 2013, 01:37
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bit of an unusual face, looks a bit stoned too in this barracks photo....
His bebo page has many military references, also some weed and gang symbolism, the main photo delineates an innocent child in white looking downward in a dark forest..
dude. People join the army to play with guns and kill people. (activities now available via 0800newcops)
if i was dumb enough,thered be stacks of photos of me with guns.
Also, according to bebo, his last name is dawg. He should have been put down at birth.
That sounds more like the one in Petone years ago, after some gang agro involving a rifle at the Hutt Park hotel? Guys last name was Chase, police went to his house very early in the morning, he came to the door holding a steel bar - police assumed it was the rifle and acted accordingly.That's the one I was thinking of. Begs belief really.
Damned if they do ... damned if the don't ... shoot first and then read them their rights, it helps to calm the situation down a bit! :niceone:Can't tell if sarcastic or not. LOL
bit of an unusual face, looks a bit stoned too in this barracks photo....
the baby face indicates problems
how many gangsters were called baby face...
'Henry' is a French surname
maybe he was pissed they got dicked in the rugby?
very high forehead, youthful looking....
I'm going to go with an ex military gun nut with possibly autism like interpersonal problems and a drug issue.
Undiagnosed autisms, even very very mild ones, need closer scrutiny than this. Especially ex military personnel
His bebo page has many military references, also some weed and gang symbolism, the main photo delineates an innocent child in white looking downward in a dark forest....http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=7871787250Everyone has aids
Aids aids aids aids aids
Oh, I mean autism....
bit of a worry for sure, he could have hurt an innocent person hurtling along from opotiki to the shore
I would have organised sniper shooters to take out tyres sometime much sooner that 7 hours later
He passed near Hamilton so its not like armed offenders were not handy?
At the very least the southern motorway into orks
Even the police chopper could have dropped something in front of the vehicle as roads were closed....
I guess at the end of the day the cops cant follow everyone around all the time, and shit like this may always happenPolicve chopper still has to adhere to flight restrictions, chucking stuff out the window onto the motorway is probably frowned apon.
Smifffy
9th July 2013, 07:09
Everyone has aids
Aids aids aids aids aids
Oh, I mean autism....
Policve chopper still has to adhere to flight restrictions, chucking stuff out the window onto the motorway is probably frowned apon.
Besides that, WTF are they gonna chuck?
Grubber
9th July 2013, 07:43
no i'm actually fair floating. mate got married the other day, and shit's just nice.
except i'm nearly out of 2 minute noodles, my bike truck and car are simultaneously fucked and i got no money or smokes and the homebrew innt ready for another week or 2.
but yeah nah, vide est dulche
i will have to hear the full facts of i before i can decide. did he stop and try to shoot them? was he firing out of the vehicle (it doesn' sound like it, from all accounts) did they spike him, then run up to his car pointing guns and yelling "POLICE, WE JUST WATCHED BAD BOYS II HOO-RAH", where was the tasers, pepper spray, knuckle dusters, quarter pikes or LRADs at? why didn't they shoot out his knee or shoulder? why couldn't they resolve the thing peacefully?
so many questions that will probably not get answered.
the police, in my experience with them with guns, are entirely too keen to wave them around.
and having seen them at various ranges (they had one closed down, becase bobby A shot bobby B in the foot) their actual proficiency with firearms is lacking.
just saying, if they're gonna go usRAMBO styles on me, i'll be taking a few down first.
this is NEW ZEALAND not AMERICA.
(but seriously, anyone want to buy 20 shotguns?)
Yea he did shoot at them in the tunnel and yea they did spike the car but he kept going and yea he did stop and shoot again. H lost! They won! Fuckin good job!
unstuck
9th July 2013, 07:54
Tis a shame that we have a weak arse system/society that lets them get that far, without someone intervening. Surely he must of come to the attention of someone over the years. Maybe his family should of taken a keener interest in his activitys? STUPID humans.:Punk::Punk:
scissorhands
9th July 2013, 09:01
Everyone has aids
Aids aids aids aids aids
Oh, I mean autism....
Policve chopper still has to adhere to flight restrictions, chucking stuff out the window onto the motorway is probably frowned apon.
Have you looked at most US school shootings closely??? Can you see with those eyes??
If you go defending bullshit and garnering stupidity, your brane will overload again as you are obviously better than that.
Allowing nutters to continue their rampage for 7 hours is frowned apon.
scissorhands
9th July 2013, 09:03
Besides that, WTF are they gonna chuck?
Tyre puncturing kung foo stars?
Unhelpful morons that are a waste of space?
unstuck
9th July 2013, 09:06
RPG from the chopper would of been way cool.:Punk::Punk:
Akzle
9th July 2013, 09:23
Tis a shame that we have a weak arse system/society that lets them get that far, without someone intervening. Surely he must of come to the attention of someone over the years. Maybe his family should of taken a keener interest in his activitys? STUPID humans.:Punk::Punk:
stupidity isnt illegal yet..
And no i dont reckon, having your life scrutinised... Events can be misconstrued, the picture that could be painted against you if one were so inclined.
Take you, 3 armed callouts (3 strikes, prison?) drug addict, rabble rouser at crown court... Better murder you before you do any more harm to society...
Have you looked at most US school shootings closely??? Can you see with those eyes??
If you go defending bullshit and garnering stupidity, your brane will overload again as you are obviously better than that.
Allowing nutters to continue their rampage for 7 hours is frowned apon.
Enhance your calm citizen. You yourself have pointed out that autism is too widely bandied about, to describe people with different thought processes, or evaluation of action processes.
I'm just giving you shit about it is all.
scissorhands
9th July 2013, 09:29
stupidity isnt illegal yet..
...
actually it appears to be actively encouraged
Akzle
9th July 2013, 09:29
Unhelpful morons that are a waste of space?
sparrow only seats 4 cops...
stupidity isnt illegal yet...
Thank fuck! I'm too pretty to go to prison.
scissorhands
9th July 2013, 09:34
Enhance your calm citizen. You yourself have pointed out that autism is too widely bandied about, to describe people with different thought processes, or evaluation of action processes.
I'm just giving you shit about it is all.
ASD used to be 1/1500 20yrs ago
then 1/500
then 1/150
now according to the DSM5 1/70
any guesses where it will end up?
'too bandied about...'
and no to: too bandied about
quite the opposite
where the fuck did I give you that impression?
brane overload?
Edbear
9th July 2013, 09:37
Is brane a word? :confused:
unstuck
9th July 2013, 09:42
stupidity isnt illegal yet..
And no i dont reckon, having your life scrutinised... Events can be misconstrued, the picture that could be painted against you if one were so inclined.
Take you, 3 armed callouts (3 strikes, prison?) drug addict, rabble rouser at crown court... Better murder you before you do any more harm to society...
Yep, probably a good idea too, no telling what crazy shit I may do next. But at the moment, it seems as they have me fairly well covered, so you should all be safe. And I did mention only one of those call outs was anything related to me, so I have 2 to go. Look out Gore.:devil2:
P.S. I would have to trap or snare somebody cos I got no guns. Thank fuck.
Akzle
9th July 2013, 11:05
P.S. I would have to trap or snare somebody cos I got no guns. Thank fuck.
hang someone. I think rope is far too dangerous a tool for mere plebians and i want to see it banned or licensed. For the good of the nation.
unstuck
9th July 2013, 11:08
hang someone. I think rope is far too dangerous a tool for mere plebians and i want to see it banned or licensed. For the good of the nation.
Now theres an option.:devil2: I probably would go for the poison method though, so I dont have to watch them die.:baby:
Road kill
9th July 2013, 12:14
Is brane a word? :confused:
This is KB mate.
It is now.:msn-wink:
Scuba_Steve
9th July 2013, 12:25
Is brane a word? :confused:
This is KB mate.
It is now.:msn-wink:
Well turns out brane is a word, spell check doesn't pull it up & googly finds this from Wiki
In theoretical physics, a membrane, brane, or p-brane is a spatially extended mathematical concept that appears in string theory and related theories (e.g. M-theory and brane cosmology). The membrane exists in a static number of dimensions.
unstuck
9th July 2013, 12:33
Insane in the Mem brane.:Punk::Punk:
Banditbandit
9th July 2013, 12:34
Insane in the Meme brane.:Punk::Punk:
There .. fixed it ...
scissorhands
9th July 2013, 12:36
Just another example of societies one size fits all bullshit, resulting in massive stress leading to a meltdown
unstuck
9th July 2013, 12:42
There .. fixed it ...
Not a cypress hill fan then?:msn-wink:
ASD used to be 1/1500 20yrs ago
then 1/500
then 1/150
now according to the DSM5 1/70
any guesses where it will end up?
'too bandied about...'
and no to: too bandied about
quite the opposite
where the fuck did I give you that impression?
brane overload?P'raps I recalled incorrectly. Closer inspection of vague memory, you might have been saying something about assbergers being lumped in with some other shit for convenience, rather than having a complete definition of its own.
Fuck, could have been someone else for all I know. My info retention is less than ideal.
Anyhoo, aids aids aids aids aids aidsaidsaidsaids....AIDS.
scissorhands
9th July 2013, 13:05
P'raps I recalled incorrectly. Closer inspection of vague memory, you might have been saying something about assbergers being lumped in with some other shit for convenience, rather than having a complete definition of its own.
Fuck, could have been someone else for all I know. My info retention is less than ideal.
Anyhoo, aids aids aids aids aids aidsaidsaidsaids....AIDS.
Its like the cold. Many different bugs cause a common cold.
There are many different autisms, as well as varying levels of affectation. Thats why present terminology has now changed to 'autism spectrum disorder'
or ASD
scissorhands
9th July 2013, 13:06
There .. fixed it ...
Stop bullying me! You haters are asking for trouble!
Stop bullying me! You haters are asking for trouble!Do you know of any elderly farmers who don't lock their guns up?
Serious question time. Should ASD be considered by police, when someone is applying for a gun license in your opinion?
unstuck
9th July 2013, 13:16
Do you know of any elderly farmers who don't lock their guns up?
Serious question time. Should ASD be considered by police, when someone is applying for a gun license in your opinion?
I know a couple of farmers who leave shotguns and 22,s lying around in their woolsheds.:weird:
scissorhands
9th July 2013, 13:17
Do you know of any elderly farmers who don't lock their guns up?
Serious question time. Should ASD be considered by police, when someone is applying for a gun license in your opinion?
Absofuckenlutely.
David Gray
Tasmanian shooter
Columbine
Virginia Tech
Aurora
Sandy Hook
....... oodles more
Molenaar
I'd say maybe half of armed offenders call outs...
Poor emotional regulation and guns do not mix well...
I had some tough years too, to be honest.
Righteous indignation is a fair call if you look closely, but shooting innocents during a meltdown is not.
All those years of school bullying and feeling different with no explanation from authorities grinds a good man down....
Remember though, 99.99% instead engage in self harm......
In this case, the military is at fault for tooling up Henry. Kind of like
'The Bourne Supremacy' syndrome
In this case, the military is at fault for tooling up Henry. Kind of like
'The Bourne Supremacy' syndromeNow hang the fuck on. The army gave him the arse, he clearly wasn't one of the few good men.
Blaming them, for those close to the guy not discouraging him from applying, is a bloody cop out.
scissorhands
9th July 2013, 13:21
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_amok
Running amok, sometimes referred to as simply amok,[1] also spelled amuk, from the Malay,[2] is "an episode of sudden mass assault against people or objects usually by a single individual following a period of brooding that has traditionally been regarded as occurring especially in Malaysian culture but is now increasingly viewed as psychopathological behavior occurring worldwide in numerous countries and cultures".[3] The syndrome of "Amok" is found in the DSM-IV TR.[4] The phrase is often used in a less serious manner when describing something that is wildly out of control or causing a frenzy (e.g., a dog tearing up the living room furniture might be termed as" running amok.")..........
Just heard on the radio, that he was given the arse from the army, for threatening to kill his commanding officer.
Mmmkay, he should have been charged with that at the time I reckon. Not that he'd have been convicted most likely, it's a very hard charge to make stick I would think.
scissorhands
9th July 2013, 13:25
Now hang the fuck on. The army gave him the arse, he clearly wasn't one of the few good men.
Blaming them, for those close to the guy not discouraging him from applying, is a bloody cop out.
no one fucking knows, all are lost to themselves
hindsight is a wonderful thing
we could blame doctors for not doing their job....
The army has a fairly large percentage of soldiers gone bad:bleh: Hang the fuck on that....
Akzle
9th July 2013, 13:37
I know a couple of farmers who leave shotguns and 22,s lying around in their woolsheds.:weird:
not to mention rope bro... i got in the uncles ute the other day, fucking rope all over the show. tow straps, tie towns, plain old rope. that shit's dangerous man...
scissorhands
9th July 2013, 13:43
In China a recent spate of school stabbings has been going on for the last few years
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_%282010%E2%80%9312%29
School attacks in China (2010–12)
From Wikipedia
A series of uncoordinated mass stabbings, hammer attacks, and cleaver attacks in the People's Republic of China began in March 2010. The spate of attacks left at least 25 dead and some 115 injured. As most cases had no known motive, analysts have blamed mental health problems caused by rapid social change for the rise in these kind of mass murder and murder-suicide incidents.[1] Such attacks are extremely rare in the United States such as the 2013 stabbing at the Lone Star College in Texas in 2013, and other nations have had unexplained serial killings.....
unstuck
9th July 2013, 13:44
not to mention rope bro... i got in the uncles ute the other day, fucking rope all over the show. tow straps, tie towns, plain old rope. that shit's dangerous man...
But think of all the good things rope is used for, like tying fuckers up so you can shoot them without missing.:shutup:
Akzle
9th July 2013, 15:13
But think of all the good things rope is used for, like tying fuckers up so you can shoot them without missing.:shutup:
fuck. With shooting ability like that, youre qualified to be a cop...
Considered a career change, to legal thugery?
unstuck
9th July 2013, 15:18
fuck. With shooting ability like that, youre qualified to be a cop...
Considered a career change, to legal thugery?
They would never have me, I would smoke all the evidence.:doobey:
Edbear
9th July 2013, 15:20
They would never have me, I would smoke all the evidence.:doobey:
I thought the idea was to smoke the criminals...
fuck. With shooting ability like that, youre qualified to be a cop...
Considered a career change, to legal thugery?
You're forgetting that he's on 'the list' of bad men, who aren't allowed guns.
Five oh are not recruiting the same numbers they used to I saw in the news recently. Maybe the force is getting better, and fewer of the wankerish ones are getting on and rapidly off, the beat?
They would never have me, I would smoke all the evidence.:doobey:
All evidence must be burnt. Don't think there's a guideline how fast though... :whistle:
From his age he got kicked out when he was 19 so he couldn't have been in longer than a year which is barely enough to get through Basic/Corp training. I'd say the Army would've tried to sort him out but eventually had to cut him loose. A lot of drop kicks get tossed into the Army as a last resort and while most of them come right, there are some that don't. He looks like a big guy so makes it kind of hard to "sort him out" the typical Army way :).
The army has a fairly large percentage of soldiers gone bad:bleh: Hang the fuck on that....
Ohh puhleease. Sources or shut the fuck up hippy. A few reports in the media hardly equates to a fairly large percentage. If you looked closely at the numbers it's probably proportional or even less than the population standard.
If you looked closely at the numbers it's probably proportional or even less than the population standard.I've got nothing ot back this idea up, but it occurs to me that because most people going into the army do so of their own free will, said will is strong along with self discapline.
The types of people I wouldn't expect to "go bad"...Untill they have to go to war of course, those poor mother fuckers got good reason to lose they minds.
Brian d marge
9th July 2013, 15:59
As I said ' something ain't right in fruit loop land '
Threatened to kill his commanding officer ,,,also one suspect there would have been a troubled teen history
Fall through the cracks my arse , there ain't no friggen floor and the old bill tend to pick up the leftovers , ...poor fkers
Might give a donation to the donut fund when I get back ,,,,my see em through Christmas with a new box of crispy creme donuts
Let's see,,, 280 in a fifty might be enough
Could buy a few donuts with that ....
Stephen
Let's see,,, 280 in a fifty might be enough
Could buy a few donuts with that ....
StephenYou could avoid a fine at all, at 230 above the speed limit. What with the criminal conviction (don't tell me I've got that wrong too please) attached to "dangerous use".
scissorhands
9th July 2013, 16:03
From his age he got kicked out when he was 19 so he couldn't have been in longer than a year which is barely enough to get through Basic/Corp training. I'd say the Army would've tried to sort him out but eventually had to cut him loose. A lot of drop kicks get tossed into the Army as a last resort and while most of them come right, there are some that don't. He looks like a big guy so makes it kind of hard to "sort him out" the typical Army way :).
Ohh puhleease. Sources or shut the fuck up hippy. A few reports in the media hardly equates to a fairly large percentage. If you looked closely at the numbers it's probably proportional or even less than the population standard.
Fair call. US Movies and television often feature ex vets in a less than ideal light
As you were soldier.............:msn-wink:
jasonu
9th July 2013, 16:36
NZ police have also shot offenders who were armed with only a knife or hammer.
Good!!!!!!:Police:
Kickaha
9th July 2013, 19:20
In China a recent spate of school stabbings has been going on for the last few years
Fucking slow starters, Merkins have killing people in schools for centuries
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States
And everyone is a fucken ghoul too. I have just come back from the shitty city, it is dark and there is nothing to see, but, the traffic was SO slow through there it was pathetic. Looking for the paint marks I guess :crazy:
Smifffy
9th July 2013, 22:04
Tyre puncturing kung foo stars?
Unhelpful morons that are a waste of space?
One man's moron is another man's aspie, and vice versa.
hang someone. I think rope is far too dangerous a tool for mere plebians and i want to see it banned or licensed. For the good of the nation.
And can you believe it's allowed in carry on luggage on a plane, but nail clippers aren't?
not to mention rope bro... i got in the uncles ute the other day, fucking rope all over the show. tow straps, tie towns, plain old rope. that shit's dangerous man...
Especially the amount you smoke.
Akzle
9th July 2013, 22:31
Especially the amount you smoke.
i dont smoke any rope...
Drew
10th July 2013, 06:32
i dont smoke any rope...
So just to confirm. It's cigarettes, weed, and pole that you smoke?
Akzle
10th July 2013, 12:02
So just to confirm. It's cigarettes, weed, and pole that you smoke?
i knew a polish girl once or twice...
oldrider
10th July 2013, 12:53
Smoke gets in your eyes and blue smoke goes drifting bye! :shifty:
Maybe a list of ten smoking songs might be of help:http://voices.yahoo.com/songs-smoke-their-titles-3384736.html :whistle:
Banditbandit
10th July 2013, 16:55
The forgot this one on your list
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5TKrA9opxc
Tho' I suppose it doesn't have "smoke" in the title ...
Edbear
10th July 2013, 19:54
Smoke gets in your eyes and blue smoke goes drifting bye! :shifty:
Maybe a list of ten smoking songs might be of help:http://voices.yahoo.com/songs-smoke-their-titles-3384736.html :whistle:
"Smoke on the water... Fire in the sky..."
Road kill
10th July 2013, 20:45
"Smoke on the water... Fire in the sky..."
I got stoned an I missed it,,I got stoned.
Dean
10th July 2013, 21:14
Fuck he would of been a perfect solider for a bankjob or standova/H.I, if you're that way inclined, would of been a good asset to the team..in that instance. Just sayin'
scumdog
11th July 2013, 20:56
Fuck he would of been a perfect solider for a bankjob or standova/H.I, if you're that way inclined, would of been a good asset to the team..in that instance. Just sayin'
As long as you didn't expect brains or forethought from him..
Smifffy
11th July 2013, 21:03
As long as you didn't expect brains or forethought from him..
In fact, yeah if 'perfect' means a perfect fuck up that gets the whole gang charged with murder as well as armed robbery...
Akzle
11th July 2013, 21:19
As long as you didn't expect brains or forethought from him..
we're talking about the cops here, right..
scumdog
11th July 2013, 21:32
we're talking about the cops here, right..
Hmm, and you thought THEY were dumb...
Akzle
11th July 2013, 21:52
Hmm, and you thought THEY were dumb...
think*, are*
scissorhands
16th July 2013, 13:18
Ohh puhleease. Sources or shut the fuck up hippy. A few reports in the media hardly equates to a fairly large percentage. If you looked closely at the numbers it's probably proportional or even less than the population standard.
source displayed better here: http://ssristories.com/index.php?p=soldier
Click on the blue 'What' to access a story. Click on a red column heading to sort the index by that column.
What Drug Date Where Additional
Suicide SSRIs 2008-05-05 Iraq/U.S.A. ++Soldiers Have More Post War SuicidesThan Combat Deaths in Iraq & Afghanistan
Crime Against Humanity Chantix 2008-06-17 U.S.A. ++Soldiers with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder Recruited to Test Drug the FDA Says Causes Suicide
Suicides Not Mentioned 2010-04-04 Iraq/Afghan/U.S.A. ++Soldiers: Suicides Among 20 to 24 Year Olds: 4 Times the Average: FDA Black Box For Suicidality
Ineffective SSRIs & Atypical Antipsychotic As Add-On 2011-08-30 Global ++Soldiers: 89% of Soldiers with PTSD are Taking SSRIs: Add-On of Atypical A/P Ineffective
Mania, Suicide & Violence SSRIs & SNRIs 2010-02-25 Iraq/Afghan/U.S.A. ++Soldiers: Veteran's Govt. Meeting: More Soldiers Kill Themselves Than Killed in Combat
Murder Med For Depression 2009-07-28 Iraq/Texas +Soldier Kills 5 at Baghdad Psychiatric Center on May 11th, 2009
Murder-Suicide Antidepressant 2010-08-19 Iraq/Wisconsin +Soldier, Served in Iraq: Now With National Guard Kills Wife, Child & Self: On A/D's For Two Weeks
Death Paxil/Seroquel & Benzo 2008-06-08 U.S.A. +Soldiers [Twelve] Die in Sleep from PTSD Meds As Uncovered by the Father of One of the Soldiers
Suicides SSRIs 2010-02-24 Iraq/Afghan/U.S.A. +Soldiers: Dept. of Defense Studying Link Between High Suicide Rate Among Vets & Medications
Murder Med for Depression 1999-09-03 Kentucky Soldier Accused of Beating Fellow Soldier
Murder Attempt Antidepressant & 14 Other Meds for PTSD 2010-04-27 Iraq/Nevada Soldier Ambushes Deputy
Assault Med For Depression 2010-08-02 Pennsylvania Soldier Assaults Hospital Staff: A/D Said To Be Affecting His Mood
Suicide Attempt Med For Depression 2010-04-25 Iraq/Colorado Soldier Attempt Suicide: Transitional Units for Soldiers Criticized
Suicide Attempt Antidepressant 2009-11-06 Iraq/Kentucky Soldier Attempts Suicide: Also Involved Alcohol
Suicide Attempt Meds For Depression & PTSD 2010-05-31 Iraq/U.S.A. Soldier Attempts Suicide: Recovers After Discontinuing Most of his Meds
Suicide Attempt Antidepressant 2010-08-12 Iraq/U.S.A. Soldier Attempts Suicide: Draws Smiley Face On Wall With his Own Blood
Suicidal Behavior Paxil 2010-03-24 Iraq Soldier Becomes Suicidal For First Time In Life After Starting Paxil
Murder Attempt Antidepressant 2010-02-18 Iraq/U.S.A. Soldier Becomes Violent During One Day Withdrawal from Depression Med
Robbery Meds for PTSD 2010-04-24 Utah Soldier Breaks Into Restaurants
Suicide Zoloft 2006-05-16 Iraq Soldier Commits Suicide
Suicide Antidepressant 2009-09-13 Iraq/Kentucky Soldier Commits Suicide With his Rifle
Suicide Zoloft Withdrawal 2008-10-08 Iraq/Pennsylvania Soldier Commits Suicide: Lawsuit Against United States Government
Suicide Antidepressant Withdrawal 2008-05-26 Iraq/Texas Soldier Commits Suicide: Was a 19 Year Veteran with a Family
Death Wellbutrin 2009-11-11 Iraq/Michigan Soldier Dies From Overdose: Probable Suicide: Lawsuit Settled
Death Antidepressants & Painkillers 2009-10-04 Virginia Soldier Dies in His Sleep from Respiratory Arrest Caused by Depression Med & Painkiller
Death Antidepressants & Painkillers 2009-06-11 Iraq/Texas Soldier Dies in His Sleep: Had 11 Drugs in Body Including Antidepressants
Death Zoloft 2009-06-08 Texas Soldier Dies: Likely Overdose & Probable Suicide: Also Taking Depakote at Subtherapeutic Level
Ineffective Meds For PTSD 2008-05-06 Iraq/New York Soldier Finds Meds Ineffective
Assault Prozac 2006-05-16 England Soldier Fires at Police in House Siege
Death Prozac +PTSD Meds 2008-06-15 Iraq/Texas Soldier Found Dead in Barracks: Cause Not Yet Known: Involved Prozac, Seroquel, Trazadone & a Benzo
Death Celexa & 600 Pills 2008-03-16 Kentucky Soldier Found Dead Of Overdose In Hospital
Suicide Med For Depression 2008-04-27 Iraq Soldier from Minnesota Kills Self in Iraq
Suicide Antidepressant 2008-02-01 Iraq Soldier from Nevada Kills Self in Iraq
AWOL Antidepressants 2007-05-15 Iraq/New York Soldier Goes AWOL on Antidepressants: Seeks Help at Home
Emotional Blunting Antidepressant 2010-01-14 North Carolina Soldier Has Loss of Emotions on Depression Med: Counseling Worked for Him
Violence Paxil* 2010-03-04 Afghan/Massachusetts Soldier Has Meltdown: Assaults 5 People: Dr. Says Paxil Can Cause This
Hostage Taking Prozac & Two Other Meds for PTSD 2011-08-18 Georgia Soldier Holds 3 Fellow Soldiers Hostage at Medical Center
Murder Attempt Antidepressants 2010-10-26 Afghan/England Soldier Home From Afghanistan Stabs His Girlfriend
Suicide by Cop Antidepressants 2006-11-23 Iraq/Florida Soldier Home from Iraq Attacks Police
Suicidal & Violent Paxil 2009-07-24 Iraq/Michigan Soldier Home From Iraq Becomes Suicidal: Holds Police at Bay for 9 Hours
Bank Robbery/School Threat Celexa +Two Other Antidepressants 2009-05-04 Iraq/Pennsylvania Soldier Home From Iraq Calls in School Threat & Then Robs Bank
Burglary/Child Endangerment Effexor +Benzo 2009-04-02 Iraq/New York Soldier Home From Iraq Commits Felonies
Suicide Med For Depression 2009-09-12 Iraq/Virginia Soldier Home From Iraq Kills Self
Suicide Antidepressant 2008-07-23 Iraq/Washington Soldier Home From Iraq Kills Self: Also Involved Antipsychotics & Benzo's
Suicide Antidepressants 2005-07-25 Iraq/Oklahoma Soldier Home From Iraq Shoots Self
Suicide Zoloft 2007-05-09 Tennessee Soldier in Basic Training Kills Self
Murder Med For Depression 2007-12-10 Colorado Soldier in Colorado a Suspect in a Murder
Suicide Effexor 2006-05-22 Iraq Soldier in Iraq Commits Suicide
Adverse Reaction Antidepressants 2006-10-19 Iraq Soldier in Iraq Describes Neuropsychiatric Drug Reactions
Suicide Antidepressant 2009-08-22 Iraq/Oklahoma Soldier in Iraq From Oklahoma Kills Himself
Behavior Changes Antidepressants 2006-09-29 Iraq/Virginia Soldier in Iraq Returned to Duty after Breakdown
Suicide Antidepressants 2008-04-21 Iraq Soldier in Iraq [from Colorado] Commits Suicide
Suicide Med For Depression 2011-04-09 Texas Soldier in Marines Who Was Active in Suicide Prevention Kills Himself
Murder Antidepressants 2010-03-23 Iraq/Kentucky Soldier Involved in Murder of Fellow Soldier
Shoplifting [Kleptomania] Effexor & 3 Other Drugs 2009-09-17 Iraq/Alaska Soldier is Dishonorably Discharged for Stealing from Canteen: Has No Memory of Incident
Violence Celexa 2009-06-08 Afghanistan/Florida Soldier Is Homicidal For First Time After Dr. Upped Dose of Celexa: Update: 5 Years in Prison
Unethical Antidepressants 2008-06-01 Iraq/Oregon Soldier Is Not Allowed to Speak to a Counselor Unless he Takes Antidepressants First
Murder Zoloft & Trazadone Antidepressants 2011-02-24 Afghan/Indiana Soldier Kills Afghan Prisoner: Faces Death Penalty
Murder-Suicide Med For PTSD 2008-05-19 Iraz/Arizona Soldier Kills his Brother & Himself
Suicide Med For Depression Withdrawal 2011-10-12 Iraq/Tennessee Soldier Kills Self: Family Sues VA Hospital
Suicide Med For Depression 2009-07-03 Iraq/New Hampshire Soldier Kills Self: Full Military Honors Planned for Funeral
Suicide Lexapro 2008-05-18 Iraq/Texas Soldier Kills Self: He was Born & Raised in Oregon
Suicide Zoloft Antidepressant 2011-03-31 Iraq/South Carolina Soldier Kills Self: Highest Rate of Suicide Ever in History Among Marine Corps
Suicide Antidepressant 2009-09-01 Iraq/North Carolina Soldier Kills Self: Was Switching from One SSRI to Another: This is a Time of Heightened Risk
Suicide Med For Depression & PTSD 2011-08-23 Iraq/Texas Soldier Kills Self: Involved in High Speed Chase With Police the Month Before This
Suicide Attempt Antidepressants 2010-05-18 England Soldier Makes a Suicide Attempt by Overdosing on his Antidepressants & Sleeping Pills
False Claims Antidepressant Withdrawal 2008-12-30 Texas Soldier Makes False Claims About his Military Service
Murder-Suicide Antidepressants 2008-02-24 Iraq/Illinois Soldier on Antidepressant for PTSD Kills Wife & Self
Feeling Strange Antidepressants 2009-03-13 Iraq/Utah Soldier Quits Med For Depression Because it Made Him Feel Not All Right: Involved in Bank Heist
Disapperance Antidepressant 2006-11-23 Canada Soldier Returned from Afghanistan Goes Missing: Found Safe
Death/Stand-Off with Police Antidepressant 2006-12-29 Afghanistan/Maryland Soldier Returned from Afghanistan Shot to Death by Police
Suicidal Behaviors Antidepressant 2008-10-14 Iraq/Wisconsin Soldier Returned From Iraq Becomes Suicidal on Depression Med Given to Her During Demobilization
Murder Attempt Antidepressants 2009-08-06 Iraq/Colorado Soldier Returned From Iraq Charged with Attempted Murder of Wife
Suicide Zoloft 2008-07-22 Iraq/Washington Soldier Returned From Iraq Commits Suicide
Suicide Med For PTSD 2007-08-16 Iraq/Washington Soldier Returned from Iraq Commits Suicide
Suicide Med For Depression 2009-05-07 Iraq/Kentucky Soldier Returned from Iraq Commits Suicide
Violence Celexa & Seroquel 2009-04-12 Iraq/West Virginia Soldier Returned from Iraq Exhibits Unexplained Behaviors & Violence While on Meds
Nervous Breakdown Antidepressants 2008-11-11 Iraq/California Soldier Returned From Iraq Has Breakdown From Too Many Antidepressants
Murder Antidepressants 2003-11-20 Iraq/Florida Soldier Returned from Iraq Kills Fellow Soldier
Suicide Antidepressants 2007-05-14 Iraq/Colorado Soldier Returned from Iraq Kills Self
Suicide Prozac/Remeron & 5 Other Meds 2009-02-12 Iraq/Florida Soldier Returned From Iraq Kills Self: Heavily Medicated
Suicide Med For Depression 2009-01-03 Iraq/Michigan Soldier Returned From Iraq Kills Self: Possible Withdrawal Case
Murder Med For Depression & PTSD 2009-07-28 Iraq/Pennsylvania Soldier Returned From Iraq Kills Two: May Seek Death Penalty
Murder Zolot & 12 Other Meds 2009-02-12 Iraq/California Soldier Returned From Iraq Kills Woman
Suicide Antidepressants 2010-05-14 North Carolina Soldier Runs Away From Psychiatric Hospital & Kills Self
Death Antidepressants 2008-03-08 Iraq/California Soldier Runs In Front of Truck on California Freeway
Assault Antidepressant 2010-04-21 Iraq/England Soldier Seriously Wounds Girlfriend: Originally Charged With Attempted Murder
Murder Attempt Antidepressants 2009-07-26 Iraq/Colorado Soldier Shoots Fellow Soldier in the Leg
Suicide Treatment For Depression 2010-04-17 Ohio Soldier Shoots Self on Steps of VA Medical Center
Violence Antidepressants, Benzo's & Alcohol 2010-12-09 Ireland Soldier Smashes ATM Machine: out of Character Behavior
Murder Prozac 2009-12-04 Iraq/New York Soldier Stabs to Death Two Fellow Soldiers
Stealing Effexor 2010-01-15 Iraq/New York Soldier Steals Truck: Other Offenses Involved
Assault Med For Depression 2009-01-28 Iraq/California Soldier Suffering From PTSD Involved in Fight/Assault
Violent Threats Antidepressant 2007-07-05 Canada Soldier Threatens Wife After Switching to Different Antidepressant
Suicide Med For Depression 2011-08-14 New Hampshire Soldier Who Had Earned a Bronze Star for Duty in Iraq Kills Himself
Suicide Attempt Med For Depression 2008-10-30 Iraq/California Soldier With Post Traumatic Stress Disorder Attempts Suicide After Given Med
Death Zoloft, Seroquel & a Benzo 2009-05-23 Iraq Soldier [24 Year Old Woman] Dies in Sleep in Iraq
Murder Desyrel Antidepressant 2007-11-01 Iraq/California Soldier [American] Kills Iraqi Soldier in Iraq
Stand-Off-With-Police Antidepressant 2008-07-09 Iraq/Hawaii Soldier [Suicidal] In 18 Hour Stand-Off-With-Police
Suicide Attempt Antidepressants 2008-01-30 Iraq Soldier [Woman] Attempts Suicide: Soldier Suicides at Record Level for 2007
Suicide Attempt Prozac 1997-01-28 Virginia Soldier [Woman] Attempts to Kill Self
Death Celexa 2006-11-28 Iraq Soldier [Woman] on Antidepressants Dies of Undetermined Cause
Suicide Paxil Withdrawal 2006-11-13 Iraq/NewYork Soldier [Woman] Returns Home from Iraq: 2 Week Withdrawal
Suicide Antidepressants 2007-02-06 Iraq/Texas Soldier [Woman] in Iraq Kills Self
Suicide Zoloft Withdrawal 2009-01-22 Iraq/Massachusetts Soldier [Women Surgeon] in Iraq Kills Self: Recent Withdrawal
Death Antidepressants 2008-07-20 Iraq/North Carolina Soldier's Bizarre Behavior Results in His Death
Worsening Condition Antidepressants & Painkillers 2009-11-12 Iraq/Illinois Soldier's Condition Deteriorates on Meds: Family Not Allowed to Intervene
Worsening Depression Antidepressants 2010-06-20 Texas Soldier's Condition Made Worse by Antidepressants: Recovers From Depression Using Acupuncture
Condition Worsens Antidepressant 2009-07-01 Afghanistan/U.S.A. Soldier's Condition Worsens on Antidepressants
Adverse Reactions Med For Depression 2007-10-31 Iraq Soldier's Condition Worsens on Depression Med
Suicide Paxil & Zoloft 2010-09-03 Global Soldier's Use of Paxil & Zoloft: Army General Issues Warning About These Two Drugs
Suicide Antidepressants 2010-05-30 Iowa Soldier, 21, Home From Iraq Hangs Self
Violence/Death Celexa Antidepressant 2010-10-28 Iraq/Canada Soldier, 22 Years Old, Becomes Violent With Police: They Shoot Him Dead
Suicide Antidepressants 2011-11-05 Ohio Soldier, 22, Kills Himself: Black Box Warning on Suicidality for This Age Group
Suicide Antidepressants 2010-10-11 Iraq/Texas Soldier, 26 Years Old, Home From Iraq Is Taking 2 Antidepressants & Sleeping Pill: Kills Self
Murder Antidepressant & Meds For PTSD 2010-03-02 Oregon Soldier, 29 Years Old, Shoots & Kills Neighbor
Death Meds For PTSD 2010-05-25 Iraq/Kentucky Soldier, 32 Year Old Woman, Dies in Her Sleep
Death Antidepressants 2008-07-09 Iraq/Massachusetts Soldier, 33, Dies from Liver Failure: Also Involved Alcohol
Suicide Antidepressants & Sleeping Pills 2010-10-11 Iraq/U.S.A. Soldier, 39 Years Old, Home From Iraq, Kills Himself
Suicide Med For Depression 2008-10-04 Texas Soldier, a Recruiter, Hangs Himself: Was the 5th Houston Army Recruiter to Kill Self in 7 Years
Murder-Suicide Med For Depression 2010-06-20 South Carolina Soldier, a Vietnam Vet, Kills Another Man & Then Himself
Violence Med For Depression & PTSD 2011-08-12 Alabama Soldier, a Vietnam Veteran, Attacks Wife & Grandchildren
Suicide Attempt Antidepressant 2011-04-11 Iraq/U.S.A. Soldier, A Woman Veteran of Iraq, Attempts to Kill Self
Suicide Antidepressants & Painkillers 2010-11-08 England Soldier, Formerly in Northern Ireland, With Diagnosis of PTSD Kills Himself
Murder Med For Depression 2010-08-24 North Carolina Soldier, Home From Iraq Since 2008, Accused of Killing Best Friend
Stand-Off With Police Med For Depression & Bipolar Disorder: Withdrawal 2010-10-07 North Dakota Soldier, Home From Iraq, Has Suicidal Two-Hour Stand-Off With Police
Murder Attempt Zoloft 2010-08-25 Iraq/Kuwait/Maine Soldier, Home From Kuwait & Iraq, Attempts to Kills 3 Policemen: Dose of A/D Had Just Been Doubled
Suicide Antidepressants 2005-02-13 Iraq/Florida Soldier, Just Returned from Iraq, Kills Self
Air Rage Antidepressant 2010-03-23 Ireland Soldier, Now Retired, Becomes Violent on Aircraft
Violence Antidepressants 2007-12-19 Canada Soldier, Now Retired, Is Shot by Police After Confrontation
Assault Med for Depression 2005-04-14 Iraq/Arizona Soldier, Recently Returned From Iraq, Faces 7 Counts of Assault
Violence Antidepressant 2010-12-11 Iraq/Colorado Soldier, Returned from Iraq, Is Shot in Hand by Police: Said his Med For Depression Didn't Work
Suicide-By-Cop Med For Depression 2011-02-17 Iraq/Oregon Soldier: Police Forced to Shoot Iraq War Veteran
Death Zoloft & Alcohol 2011-02-22 Ohio Soldier: Woman Marine, 20 Years Old, Dies From Interaction of Zoloft With Alcohol
Overmedication Mes for PTSD: Antidepressants, Antipsychotics, etc. 2010-02-11 Global Soldiers Are Being Over Medicated for PTSD: Can Barely Function
Death Antidepressants & Seroquel: PTSD Meds 2010-03-08 Iraq/Afghan/U.S.A. Soldiers Are Dying From Deadly Cocktails for PTSD
Suicide Paxil 2008-05-03 Iraq/Afghanistan Soldiers Are Receiving Paxil at Record Levels
Suicides Antidepressants 2010-07-16 Iraq/Afghan/U.S.A. Soldiers High Suicide Rate May Be Due to A/D's With Black Box Warning on Suicidality
Suicides Antidepressants 2010-07-30 Iraq/Afghan/U.S.A. Soldiers in Army: Highest Suicide Rate Ever: 1/3rd Taking Prescription Drugs Like Antidepressants
Treatment/Suicides SSRIs 2008-03-09 Iraq/ U.S.A. Soldiers [60 Thousand] Treated for PTSD with SSRIs: Suicides Highest Since Army Began Keeping Record
Deaths Paxil, Seroquel, Klonopin 2008-05-24 West Virginia Soldiers [Four] In Their 20's Die In Sleep While on Paxil, Seroquel & Klonopin
Sudden Death Antidepressants, Antipsychotics & Other Meds For PTSD 2010-03-10 Iraq/Afghan/U.S.A. Soldiers [One Hundred] Die Suddenly on Cocktail of Meds for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
Death Antidepressants & Antipsychotics Combo 2010-05-24 Iraq/Afghan/U.S.A. Soldiers, At Least 128, Die: Antidepressants Can Increase the Rate of Sudden Cardiac Deaths
Suicides Antidepressants 2009-09-02 Iraq/U.S.A. Soldiers, Four, From the 1451st Transport Co. Kill Selves: All Were Prescribed Antidepressants
Suicides Meds for Depression 2011-01-19 U.S.A. Soldiers: Guards, Reservists Never Deployed Killing Selves at Alarming Rates
Death Antidepressants & Polypharmacy 2010-06-07 U.S.A. Soldiers: 32 Die of Toxcity From Prescription Drugs in Last 3 Years: Wounded Warrirors Unit
Suicides SSRI Antidepressants 2010-10-12 Iraq/Afghan/U.S.A. Soldiers: 36% of the Soldiers Who Killed Themselves Never Saw Deployment
Increase in Suicide in Military Meds For Depression 2010-10-10 Iraq/Afghan/U.S.A. Soldiers: Antidepressant Increases Followed by More Suicides: Senator Sees a Connection
Suicides SSRI Antidepressant 2011-07-20 U.S.A. Soldiers: Army: 18 Suicides Per Day: 40% on A/D's at Time of Suicide: No Figure on Withdrawals
Increasing Number of Military Suicides Zoloft, Lexapro, Paxil or Prozac 2010-04-15 Iraq/Afghan/U.S.A. Soldiers: House Committee on VA Affairs: 1 In 6 Soldiers Medicated, Mostly With SSRIs
Death Prozac, Celexa & Other Psychotropic Drugs 2011-02-13 Global Soldiers: Powerful Drug Cocktail: Deadly Results for Military
Suicides SSRI & SNRI Antidepressants 2010-03-17 Iraq/Afghan/U.S.A. Soldiers: VA Clinical Settings: Suicide Rate Was Twice the Base Rate Following Antidepressant Starts
Antidepressant Use Antidepressants 2010-09-30 North Carolina Soldiers:1 in 10 Soldiers at Fort Bragg Take Antidepressant: Many More Take Other Psychotropic Meds
** Indicates a school shooting or school incident.
* Indicates a legal case won using SSRI defense.
++ Indicates an important journal article.
+ Indicates a highly publicized case.
num An age < < 25 covered by FDA black box for suicide.
Hoon
16th July 2013, 16:41
Ummm are there actually any NZ Army instances in that list? Or are you now expanding your criteria to include all Armed Forces in the world?
scissorhands
16th July 2013, 18:15
sorry I'm all jumped out for today
maybe NZ soldiers are special...
Smifffy
16th July 2013, 18:24
sorry I'm all jumped out for today
maybe NZ soldiers are special...
What I'm trying to work out is whether your position is that aspies are good people, if a little different, and that with some understanding, are mostly harmless constructive members of society.
Or
That they are fucked up psychopaths that will run amok if they get the wrong change from the bus driver, and should be feared or villified.
Meh.
Drew
16th July 2013, 18:30
What I'm trying to work out is whether your position is that aspies are good people, if a little different, and that with some understanding, are mostly harmless constructive members of society.
Or
That they are fucked up psychopaths that will run amok if they get the wrong change from the bus driver, and should be feared or villified.
Meh.Depends....On which of those two moods strikes him on the day I think.
scissorhands
16th July 2013, 18:47
What I'm trying to work out is whether your position is that aspies are good people, if a little different, and that with some understanding, are mostly harmless constructive members of society.
Or
That they are fucked up psychopaths that will run amok if they get the wrong change from the bus driver, and should be feared or villified.
Meh.
ASPIES ARE LESS REPRESENTED IN CRIME THAN NEUROTYPICALS
BUT THEY CAN SNAP AFTER YEARS OF CONFUSION AND BULLYING
good and bad just like anyone really
aspie kids are prone to meltdowns
aspie adults with guns are a serious risk....
however, most aspie adults take their own lives..... youtube bullycide
Society is kept in the dark re aspies.
I spoke with a parent yesterday, whose boy is on the spectrum, quite a bit too. Kid was about 3yrs old.
Dad had no fucking idea
and would not listen to a stranger[me]
his doctor has no idea either....
Spoke with another parent whose boy is attacking them.
The 16yr old is super frustrated.
These parents are spending 1000$ on quacks... guess what??
No one has identified the poor boys autism
My view is killer aspies are made by society and its unwillingness to recognise and treat them properly.....
I dated one.
Scholarship to Saint Cuthberts, kicked out
Takapuna Grammar, kicked out
ended up in Selwyn High
Super smart girl!
No one helped her properly
Cost to society in Millions$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
MASSIVE FAIL
Bottom line
Not an isolated case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Angels gone bad
Who makes run amokers into angels of death??????????
society
look in the mirror for answers to these problems
hint: aspies are naturally very very very very very honest to the point of pathology
many cannot lie
cannot live a lie
many have angelic features.....
scissorhands
16th July 2013, 18:58
ps
check chinese aspies as authorities emulate the merkin model of medicating with SSRI :wait::wait::wait:
more spree killings after SSRI treatments:clap::clap::clap:
Littleman
16th July 2013, 20:21
ps
check chinese aspies as authorities emulate the merkin model of medicating with SSRI :wait::wait::wait:
more spree killings after SSRI treatments:clap::clap::clap:
Start a thread about yourself. Then you can make it allll about you.
scissorhands
16th July 2013, 22:37
Start a thread about yourself. Then you can make it allll about you.
sorry, I was asked to provide a source
and then questioned by another
and now I respond again to you
Brian d marge
17th July 2013, 00:14
ASPIES ARE LESS REPRESENTED IN CRIME THAN NEUROTYPICALS
BUT THEY CAN SNAP AFTER YEARS OF CONFUSION AND BULLYING
good and bad just like anyone really
aspie kids are prone to meltdowns
aspie adults with guns are a serious risk....
however, most aspie adults take their own lives..... youtube bullycide
Society is kept in the dark re aspies.
I spoke with a parent yesterday, whose boy is on the spectrum, quite a bit too. Kid was about 3yrs old.
Dad had no fucking idea
and would not listen to a stranger[me]
his doctor has no idea either....
Spoke with another parent whose boy is attacking them.
The 16yr old is super frustrated.
These parents are spending 1000$ on quacks... guess what??
No one has identified the poor boys autism
My view is killer aspies are made by society and its unwillingness to recognise and treat them properly.....
I dated one.
Scholarship to Saint Cuthberts, kicked out
Takapuna Grammar, kicked out
ended up in Selwyn High
Super smart girl!
No one helped her properly
Cost to society in Millions$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
MASSIVE FAIL
Bottom line
Not an isolated case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Angels gone bad
Who makes run amokers into angels of death??????????
society
look in the mirror for answers to these problems
hint: aspies are naturally very very very very very honest to the point of pathology
many cannot lie
cannot live a lie
many have angelic features.....
Straight up it doesnt fit the bell curve , so ya getting jack
shooting a nut with a gun its cheaper than curing the problem
in front of the" nut with a gun" for treatment are :
old people
solo mums
maori
maori solo mums
lesbians
lesbian solo mums
greeks
greek lesbian solo mums
maori greeks
Maori greek lesbian solo mums
me
me and lesbians
me and greek lesbian solo mums
and fnally
Old people , who like greek lesbians ( with guns) solo mothers
nowe get down that bank and give the nice man your money , donke"y says its " all good"
Stephene
Smifffy
17th July 2013, 22:33
Straight up it doesnt fit the bell curve , so ya getting jack
me
me and lesbians
me and greek lesbian solo mums
Oh you wish...
scissorhands
17th July 2013, 22:46
I wonder if it will ever occur to the "normal" people that it may not be that people with [insert neurological condition currently being demonized here] are more prone to violence, but that people scorned by society are more prone to violence and people [insert neurological condition currently being demonized here] are more likely to be scorned by society. Thus, scorning people with [insert neurological condition currently being demonized here] will only make this happen more often.
And let's not forget that as soon as something like this happens, every quack with a degree in bigotry rushes to "diagnose" the killer. To ensure the "normal" people that this happened because the killer was "broken" and a "normal" person would never do something like this. You hear that masses? You are better than the people you ostracize! So keep on ostracizing them! Rolling Eyes
It used to be that anyone who didn't "fit in" could go out and live in the wilderness. It wasn't a very easy option, but it was an option.
But now there is no more room to be alone. There is nowhere to run. There is nowhere to hide. Treat someone like an animal for enough years and that's what they'll become. Antagonize a cornered beast, and what do you expect to happen?
Drew
18th July 2013, 05:53
I wonder if it will ever occur to the "normal" people that it may not be that people with [insert neurological condition currently being demonized here] are more prone to violence, but that people scorned by society are more prone to violence and people [insert neurological condition currently being demonized here] are more likely to be scorned by society. Thus, scorning people with [insert neurological condition currently being demonized here] will only make this happen more often.
And let's not forget that as soon as something like this happens, every quack with a degree in bigotry rushes to "diagnose" the killer. To ensure the "normal" people that this happened because the killer was "broken" and a "normal" person would never do something like this. You hear that masses? You are better than the people you ostracize! So keep on ostracizing them! Rolling Eyes
It used to be that anyone who didn't "fit in" could go out and live in the wilderness. It wasn't a very easy option, but it was an option.
But now there is no more room to be alone. There is nowhere to run. There is nowhere to hide. Treat someone like an animal for enough years and that's what they'll become. Antagonize a cornered beast, and what do you expect to happen?
Who's demonising anyone? You brought up that you thought the dude wasn't neuro typical, no one else.
Are you gearing up to kill a bunch of people? "Cornered beast". Pfft, please!
Akzle
18th July 2013, 06:07
It used to be that anyone who didn't "fit in" could go out and live in the wilderness. It wasn't a very easy option, but it was an option.
But now there is no more room to be alone. There is nowhere to run. There is nowhere to hide. Treat someone like an animal for enough years and that's what they'll become. Antagonize a cornered beast, and what do you expect to happen?
dude. You need a caravan. Theres a fucking stack of space if you go looking.
Lazy friken aspie.
scissorhands
18th July 2013, 10:46
Who's demonising anyone? You brought up that you thought the dude wasn't neuro typical, no one else.
Are you gearing up to kill a bunch of people? "Cornered beast". Pfft, please!
Nope, not at all.
I spent a bit of time over a year ago studying spree shooters.
During the 90's, the movie 'falling down' with michael douglas showed a certain middle age frustration. Recent shootings have been performed by late teen early 20's boys. I still think the piece I pasted [someone elses words....] is relevant. Another brevik could emerge ya know
I'm just trying to help others understand why these peeps snap, so as to prevent it happening again.
If you check media reports, many armed offender call outs are to nutters snapping, usually at home after some grog.
Thanks to certain TV ads promoting the use of dangerous meds, many more are snapping, than before.....
but its just as well gun ownership is not very common in NZ
dude. You need a caravan. Theres a fucking stack of space if you go looking.
Lazy friken aspie.
Do you take any medication??;)
My farm is at Port Waikato, just down the road from the old Kingseat facility...
scumdog
18th July 2013, 12:09
If you check media reports, many armed offender call outs are to nutters snapping, usually at home after some grog.
but its just as well gun ownership is not very common in NZ..
(a) and after some sort of domestic incident.
(b) shitload of guns owned in NZ - and that's just the legally owned ones...
unstuck
18th July 2013, 12:58
Port waikato, you didn't used to have a morry 1000 van did you??
Great place the port, used to live there for a while not far from sunset beach, actually the guy who owened the house worked at Kingseat too.:msn-wink:
scissorhands
18th July 2013, 13:06
(a) and after some sort of domestic incident.
(b) shitload of guns owned in NZ - and that's just the legally owned ones...
not as many assault rifles like in the states though
the movie 'Falling Down' delineated ideological conflict with mainstream society
The character was your typical aspie engineer rocket scientist, sick and tired of a stupid world[hi Mashy] the straw that breaks his camels back and precipitating his rage killings being his loss of contact with his children
Since Henry was from Opotiki, I'm guessing Tino Rangatiratanga and the Police Tuhoi raids my have been a starting point for rage, [as well as his loss of a life purpose when he was ejected from the army, came from a military family] then maybe a very recent girlfriend problem and possibly a medication/drug problem.
Personally from club experiences, I cant see cannabis as being a main ingredient, but it may be an inclusive factor, possibly being reactive with a doctors medication
I'd say henry struggled with relationships in the army and personal life, didnt know why he was different so blamed everyone else
Another reason to diagnose and treat neurological differences, much better than presently done by the medical system
NB: I attended some talks at The Auckland Law School 'Justspeak' an after hours volunteer lecture room forum for law students....
The subject was mental health and they had representatives of the mental health system there.
In front of these young law students, a higher up from mental health insinuated that police were to blame for screwing up these peeps! And their problems stemmed from these first major drama experiences with the law!
Talk about shifting blame
scissorhands
18th July 2013, 13:10
Port waikato, you didn't used to have a morry 1000 van did you??
Great place the port, used to live there for a while not far from sunset beach, actually the guy who owened the house worked at Kingseat too.:msn-wink:
No Morry van, had a simca then and a datsun 1600
We had our bach for only 2 years, and most of the time I was in Auckland, but lived there for 6 months around 1984 and worked at Glenbrook Steel Mill.
Was down there a month a go. Still the same collection of odd balls:laugh:
unstuck
18th July 2013, 13:13
Shit, I think I was there the summer of 83/84. Odd balls is not the word I would use, but I did fit in well.:lol::lol:
scissorhands
18th July 2013, 13:27
Shit, I think I was there the summer of 83/84. Odd balls is not the word I would use, but I did fit in well.:lol::lol:
Port Waikato-itis I think they call it.
Last month I saw these two old boys launch a tinnie in the river, then neither of the two engines would start, I had to run along the shore yelling at them to throw a rope, eventually they ended up on some rocks, got an outboard started and were off!
unstuck
18th July 2013, 13:40
Great fishing down there back then, mullet, Kahawai, flounder in the estuary. Snapper on the rocks at the southern end of sunset beach.:drool::drool:
SPman
18th July 2013, 15:35
It used to be that anyone who didn't "fit in" could go out and live in the wilderness. It wasn't a very easy option, but it was an option.
But now there is no more room to be alone. There is nowhere to run. There is nowhere to hide. Treat someone like an animal for enough years and that's what they'll become. Antagonize a cornered beast, and what do you expect to happen?Seems self evident to me....but not to everyone, unfortunately.
scissorhands
18th July 2013, 15:59
Seems self evident to me....but not to everyone, unfortunately.
Schools now have a real push for group interaction. Kids are seated in pods, all facing each other, rather than being singularly alone in a class.
The Kirk Government Ohu scheme is all but run down, the last Ohu community closed last year.
Councils are cracking down on building codes in communes that were given free reign in the past.
Freedom camping is being phased out.
Beneficiary's in rural areas are now forced into urban housing or lose their dole
Farmers markets are under pressure to conform.
Psychotropic drug administrating by GP's has increased, TV campaigns have stepped up the marketing.
These 'chemical straight-jackets' reach into every nook and cranny of rural and urban society...
You hardly see those old pissed guys with fags in their mouths anymore.
Their oblivion is now available at the chemist
Brian d marge
19th July 2013, 02:19
Schools now have a real push for group interaction. Kids are seated in pods, all facing each other, rather than being singularly alone in a class.
The Kirk Government Ohu scheme is all but run down, the last Ohu community closed last year.
Councils are cracking down on building codes in communes that were given free reign in the past.
Freedom camping is being phased out.
Beneficiary's in rural areas are now forced into urban housing or lose their dole
Farmers markets are under pressure to conform.
Psychotropic drug administrating by GP's has increased, TV campaigns have stepped up the marketing.
These 'chemical straight-jackets' reach into every nook and cranny of rural and urban society...
You hardly see those old pissed guys with fags in their mouths anymore.
Their oblivion is now available at the chemist
only if you rely on "the man" ..if you can support yourself outside the loop all is well
remember " the man only has to think you are a model citizen !
Stephen
Brian d marge
19th July 2013, 02:26
Who's demonising anyone? You brought up that you thought the dude wasn't neuro typical, no one else.
Are you gearing up to kill a bunch of people? "Cornered beast". Pfft, please!
well thats exactly what happens
you ostrasize people , ie remove them , either by phyisical or emotional means and you start to create "unstable " beings
if you treat em like cunts they will be cunts , it aint rocket science
Stephen
Kickaha
19th July 2013, 06:49
Freedom camping is being phased out.
Well if those inconsiderate cunts that do it cleaned up after themselves it probably wouldn't be
unstuck
19th July 2013, 06:56
Well if those inconsiderate cunts that do it cleaned up after themselves it probably wouldn't be
Agreed there Kickaha, some real fuckin dirty cunts coming here and leaving their shit everywhere, literally.
And as Mr Braindamage said, Dont rely on the MAN, support your self and you fly under the radar.:niceone:
scissorhands
19th July 2013, 08:42
The need for a 'separate' society is still relevant, especially for the young, who are now your rage killers.
Oldies can quite happily retire to their books and internet in the comfort of having given it a go, to find it wasnt for them.
The young who rage kill, are giving it a go but hating it, when they lose it....
Hormones and youthful scrappiness mean that rather than having a good bleat, and feeling better, the young cannot verbalise whats going on for them, then internalise their failings-suicide, or externalise-attack the society that has made their life hell
Reject the society thats rejecting you
spray and walk away!
unstuck
19th July 2013, 08:45
"Institutionalized"
Sometimes I try to do things and it just doesn't work out the way I wanted to.
I get real frustrated and I try hard to do it and I take my time and it doesn't work out the way I wanted to.
It's like I concentrate real hard and it doesn't work out.
Everything I do and everything I try never turns out.
It's like I need time to figure these things out.
But there's always someone there going.
Hey Mike:
You know we've been noticing you've been having a lot of problems lately.
You know, maybe you should get away and maybe you should talk about it, maybe you'll feel a lot better
And I go:
No it's okay, you know I'll figure it out, just leave me alone I'll figure it out.
You know I'll just work by myself.
And they go:
Well you know if you want to talk about it I'll be here you know and you'll probably feel a lot better if you talk about it.
And I go:
No I don't want to I'm okay, I'll figure it out myself and they just keep bugging me and they just keep bugging me and it builds up inside and it builds up inside.
So you're gonna be institutionalized
You'll come out brainwashed with bloodshot eyes
You won't have any say
They'll brainwash you until you see their way.
[Chorus:]
I'm not crazy - in an institution
You're the one who's crazy - in an institution
You're driving me crazy - in an institution
They stuck me in an institution
Said it was the only solution
To give me the needed professional help
To protect me from the enemy -- myself.
I was in my room and I was just like staring at the wall thinking about everything
But then again I was thinking about nothing
And then my mom came in and I didn't even know she was there she called my name
And I didn't even hear it, and then she started screaming: MIKE! MIKE!
And I go:
What, what's the matter?
And she goes:
What's the matter with you?
I go:
There's nothing wrong mom.
And she goes:
Don't tell me that, you're on drugs!
And I go:
No mom I'm not on drugs I'm okay, I was just thinking you know, why don't you get me a Pepsi.
And she goes:
NO you're on drugs!
I go:
Mom I'm okay, I'm just thinking.
She goes:
No you're not thinking, you're on drugs! Normal people don't act that way!
I go:
Mom just give me a Pepsi, please
All I want is a Pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me
All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me.
Just a Pepsi.
They give you a white shirt with long sleeves
Tied around you're back, you're treated like thieves
Drug you up because they're lazy
It's too much work to help a crazy
[Chorus]
I was sitting in my room and my mom and my dad came in and they pulled up a chair and they sat down, they go:
Mike, we need to talk to you
And I go:
Okay what's the matter
They go:
Me and your mom have been noticing lately that you've been having a lot of problems,
You've been going off for no reason and we're afraid you're gonna hurt somebody,
We're afraid you're gonna hurt yourself.
So we decided that it would be in your interest if we put you somewhere
Where you could get the help that you need.
And I go:
Wait, what are you talking about, we decided!?
My best interest?! How can you know what's my best interest is?
How can you say what my best interest is? What are you trying to say, I'm crazy?
When I went to your schools, I went to your churches,
I went to your institutional learning facilities?! So how can you say I'm crazy?
They say they're gonna fix my brain
Alleviate my suffering and my pain
But by the time they fix my head
Mentally I'll be dead
[Chorus]
It doesn't matter, I'll probably get hit by a car anyway
scissorhands
19th July 2013, 08:55
The scary part is that song is a common tune in many homes...
Oh well, theres always the thrill of a ride to take the shit away:scooter:
Or a box of beers
Akzle
19th July 2013, 10:19
Freedom camping is being phased out.
fixed it for you.
unstuck
19th July 2013, 10:21
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/9T6N5UBeFpk?list=PLA2C5F7202E669CC2" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:
Akzle
19th July 2013, 10:25
Freedom camping is being phased out.
fixed it for you.
Banditbandit
19th July 2013, 11:26
A question in your nerves is lit
Yet you know there is no answer fit to satisfy
Insure you not to quit
To keep it in your mind and not forget
That it is not he or she or them or it
That you belong to.
Although the masters make the rules
For the wise men and the fools
I got nothing, Ma, to live up to.
For them that must obey authority
That they do not respect in any degree
Who despite their jobs, their destinies
Speak jealously of them that are free
Cultivate their flowers to be
Nothing more than something
They invest in.
Bob Dylan It's alright Ma (I'm only bleeding)"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brNby5IFDnA
scumdog
19th July 2013, 12:31
fixed it for you.
Too many tokes - you forgot you had already posted this.
scissorhands
19th July 2013, 13:02
David Bains birthday astrology: http://www.thesecretlanguageofbirthdays.com/r/?r=d20130327
Personality of The Day of the Originator
March 27 people are strongly individualistic. Like children, they are quick to learn, but once having learned pursue their own vision. In doing so, they acquire an unmistakable style, and an often overpowering technique built on what they have developed with others during their formative years. Exceptional people born on this day are originators, often the first to accomplish something in their field, but even those with more modest talents tend to make a contribution that is uniquely their own.
Despite their openness to new experience, March 27 people are very realistic and hard to fool. Indeed, some born on this day can become quite hardened emotionally as a result of the years of struggle they go through to succeed. Generally they are not overly affectionate or sentimental nor are they particularly understanding of the problems of others. Actually, they are not “people” people at all—it is their work, often of a technical nature, which totally absorbs them.
Those born on this day can have a strong scientific bent, or perhaps be found fiddling with things around the house, repairing them, or even taking them apart just to see how they work and trying to put them back together. Sometimes these highly technical abilities and interests can serve as a shell, a barrier to emotional expression. Those with this problem can become emotionally blocked, or break out of this straight-jacket explosively, jarring those around them.
March 27 people have an excellent feeling for social trends. As artists, business people and laborers, they are able to sense what will work with the public and what will not. This is due less to any special knowledge of human psychology than a purely intuitive understanding of society, its values and wishes. Those born on this day relate surprisingly well to groups of people, perhaps better than to individuals. Often they are baffled by human emotions, but because of their objectivity can be helpful in diagnosing problems.
Although not outwardly emotional, March 27 people are passionate and it is this intensity which makes their work strong. They can arouse emotion in others through the directness of their approach. What appeals to them is the purity of line and the strength of strong contrasts. Like children, it is the black or white of a situation that will dictate their reactions—they hate compromise and gray areas; lying (or hiding the truth) is foreign to them. Their honesty extends to themselves as well; they are therefore realistic in assessing their own abilities.
Those born on this day may be difficult to live with, as they are often preoccupied with areas apart from personal human feelings. Also, since March 27 people are not easy on themselves they are not so easy on their family and companions, either. Although they make good friends, they are not ego builders, and are much too uncompromising and frank to have time for flattery. Nonetheless, those born on this day do impart a certain quiet support and warmth to those closest to them.
http://saigonnezumi.com/aboutkevinmillerjr/about-rats-nezumis/
ARIES RAT: An Aries Rat is resourceful and therefore relies on no one. They often are the source of new and wonderful ideas, destined for greatness. Usually passive, when faced with an obstacle, they become quite assertive, even bordering on aggressive.
Suzanne White’s Description of Aries/Rat:
Aries/Rat is the cleverest, wiliest and most loquacious of Aries alive. Rats are sociable. Aries are affable. Put the two together and you come up with personality plus. Blend the Rat’s inimitable charisma with the dauntless self-assurance of Aries and you concoct yourself a winner. In bed? This go-getting person really delivers! He is no stranger to tender caresses and yet, the Aries/Rat fairly sizzles with raw passion. When he begins making love…
Source: http://www.suzannewhite.com/newastrology/AriesRat.shtml
Year of the Rat:
Rats are said to be imaginative, charming and very generous to those they love – although they do have a tendency to be quick-tempered and over-critical. They are supposed to make good writers, critics and publicists.
Source: http://www.new-year.co.uk/chinese/calendar/rat.htm
Aries/Rat:
These are secure, bold, go-getting people who cannot pass on a challenge. Approachable and captivating, Aries Rats can also be short-tempered and touchy, especially with those who can’t keep up.
Aries and the Rat Chinese Zodiac sign
You’re likely to be a Rat with ambition involving big plans. Chances are you won’t be happy remaining where you are for too long a time. Aries gives you the push to embark on new projects but not the determination to finish all of them. Likewise, you probably attack problems with vigor but then tend to back down if they are not resolved relatively quickly. This may have less to do with a lack of fighting spirit and more to Aries’ short attention span. It also enhances your straightforward approach, tendency to be careless with details, and your domineering side.
Source: http://www.firepig.com/firepigmagdetail.aspx?ArticleID=591
RATS:
Rats are famous for their quick silver tongue and their ‘accumulate and save’ mentality.Their natural charm and sharp, funny demeanor make them an appealing friend for almost anyone.
Below their apparent charm, Rats are keen and unapologetic promoters of their own agendas. Self-interest is the true motivator for rats. Greed can become a problem if the Rat isn’t careful to keep his/her priorities straight.
Their materialistic attitude notwithstanding,Rats often go out of their way to protect and encourage their inner circle of friends and family members.
The outside world might perceive rats as quick-tempered and sharp-tongued, but never boorish .Rats are a Sign that everyone around will quickly learn either to love or to hate.
Intellectually, the Rat’s keen mind always seeks out new knowledge, to be stored away for future use. This ever-curious Sign also welcomes challenges as a way to stay sharp.
A valuable lesson for Rats is to learn to consider others above themselves, at least sometimes. If they can develop their sense of self and realize it leaves room for others in their life as well, Rats could find true happiness.
Source: http://www.findyourfate.com/chineseastro/rat.htm
Water Rat
Water Rat – comes Yang Water. Water Rats tend to be adept at public relations than other Rats, highly intelligent and alarmingly perceptive, motivated by understanding and education, opportunistic and promiscuous representative of the Water Element.
Source: http://www.firepig.com/firepigmagdetail.aspx?ArticleID=490
WATER RAT Astrology
Feb 18, 1912 to Feb 5, 1913
Feb 15, 1972 to Feb 2, 1973
People who come under the Chinese water rat are very charming and smart people. They are perfectionist and leadership comes naturally top them. Water rats also have a soft side under their firm exteriors. They act as humanitarian fighters bringing happiness and smiles into other people’s lives. They are loyal and sincere and make very good friends. People who come under this Chinese astrology are generally very good in their career, but they need to balance their spending habits. They don’t take their love life casually and commit themselves completely once they fall in love.
Source: http://www.123chinesenewyear.com/chinese-astrology/rat.html
http://www.primalastrology.com/rat.html
CHINESE ZODIAC SIGN OF
RAT
Those born under the Eastern Zodiac sign of Rat are the survivors of Chinese astrology. Rats stay busy at all times, planning and working their way to a place of success, power, and pride. Rats have a ton of energy and have a hard time just sitting around quietly. They constantly feel that there is more to be done, which can cause them a great deal of stress. Rats don’t like to share their problems with other people, though they always seem to have good advice for a friend in need. Rats are extremely observant and perceptive and exercise good judgement most of the time. They are problem solvers who like to move from one challenge to the next, never quite satisfied with what they have accomplished.
Rats are surprisingly charming. For all of their time spent working they are typically quite socially adept. Charming, witty, and funny, Rats are a joy to be around when they can let themselves go and just enjoy the company of others. They enjoy meeting new people and often have a large group of acquaintances rather than a handful of close friends.
Members of this sign start life with an advantage. Their observant nature allows them to learn things faster than their peers, though this evens out by the end of childhood. Because of this Rats sometimes feel frustrated that success does not come as easily later in life when others have caught up to their level. Therefore Rats always feel that they need to stay one step ahead of everyone else. When this causes too much stress Rats can become tense, aggressive, and judgemental. Though they are always focused on the big picture, they can benefit from a change in perspective every once in a while. Rats have to work harder to balance work and relaxation more than most other signs, but their perfectionist ways can be beneficial to their livelihood in the long run.
Aries born during the Year of the Rat...
Rats born during the cycle of Aries are represented in Primal Astrology by the Piranha. Piranhas are always hungry for the next challenge. They revel in their own success and are willing to take risks that few others dare. The Rat brings good judgement and a survivalist attitude while enhancing Aries’ curiosity, restlessness, energy, and confidence. These are among the most likely of Aries to finish what they start. You can read more about the Primal Zodiac sign of Piranha by clicking here.
http://www.gotohoroscope.com/chinese-astrology/aries-rat.html
The Resourceful Aries Rat Personality
In the Chinese astrological cycles the Rat is presumed to be the first animal chosen to represent a five yearly reign. This is believed to be because the Rat was first in the queue to receive the honor by using their ingenuity and resourcefulness. Their clever initiative is believed to be present in all personalities born in their years. The Western astrological sign of Aries personality is thought to greatly profit from this creature's influence. An Aries Rat is smart, highly imaginative, ingenious and enterprising. They are usually super efficient, friendly and very enthusiastic about everything in general.
An Aries Rat has an extremely sharp mind that they use to try and acquire what they need or desire in life. These are good problem solvers and seem to take obstacles as a challenge rather than an issue. Decisions are usually well planned in advance with much thought by these characters. They have great diversity with thought patterns and can quickly evaluate ideas and people. The Aries Rat can appear a little unemotional and aloof outwardly. This distant attitude can often make these personalities difficult to get to know as they act so self reliant. This is because they are strongly self-governing personalities, do not like being told what to do, and like to do things their own way.
The Aries Rat does not seem to need many friends to be happy due to his or her independent nature's. They enjoy the company of others but are also equally as content to spend time alone. Many of these individual's may leave embarking on soul mate relationships until they have lived a little first. That is unless they meet their destined partner by chance as most of these people believe in love at first sight. Although they are not particularly romantic these personalities are rather sensual and loving. They will generally put partner's before anyone else and be very protective of their feelings and needs.
As the Aries Rat is so resourceful their homes often contain a few things they have adapted or made themselves. Their inventiveness and good imagination helps them visualize improvements and ideas for useful things to make. The Aries Rat tends to choose employment that makes use of their dexterity with their hands and minds. In their leisure time these Aries like to take part in sports and do a little travelling if they get the opportunity. They are quite energetic individual's who at times find it hard to truly relax as their brains are constantly active.
Apart from his or her occasional aloofness the Aries Rat personality has only one other weakness worth mentioning. This is their tendency to every now and then be a bit quick tempered and critical. This usually happens when an Aries Rat is stressed out and over tired. If they know themselves well it will probably be very rare that you will see any signs of this shortcoming in their personalities. Most of these people learn to not let stress build up and try to get enough hours sleep at night.
http://www.angelfire.com/realm/joselazo/data/Eastern_vs_Western.htm
You are a great will-o'-the-wisp — you essentially live in the present moment and show almost permanent inability to turn back. Your entire life can be marked with instability, dispersion, the taste for game, the desire to be always on the move. Thus there'll be no likelihood of profound taking root in any field whatsoever. In other words, you're attracted by the ephemeral, the transitory.
Very resourceful, you like to embark on a thousand undertakings at the same time. But perseverance is the quality which you direly lack, and you may give up many underway projects which could have been achieved with a little more constancy. You can best succeed in all that puts you in contact with topicality or in relation with many people. Routine or constraints absolutely don't suit you.
You've a great taste for contact and communication. And this taste is all the more operative as you remain young a long time, physically and psychologically, and as you like laughing and enjoying yourself.
With your vivacious mind and easy repartee, you like to pull your interlocutors' legs, but always without malice.
You constantly need to be stimulated by new love affairs or different sentimental perspectives. Therefore, you don't dislike simultaneous engagements and unexpected about-faces. Generally, you'd like more to exchange ideas than sentiments for you're not particularly expansive.
http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/kalibubbles-%25E2%2599%25A5/articles/73505/title/combination-western-chinese-signs-pt-3
ARIES / RAT:
Who is that Aries I saw you with?
That’s not just any old Aries. That’s an Aries/Rat, the cleverest, wiliest and most loquacious of Aries alive.
Rats are sociable. Aries are affable. Put the two together and you come up with personality plus. Blend the Rat’s inimitable charisma with the dauntless self-assurance of Aries and, well, see for yourself. This person is vitality incarnate.
Plans and projects boil over in the lives of Aries/Rats. On the desk in the den there are plans for a new wing on the old new wing, which Aries/Rat has drawn up in a fine deft hand. In the workshop there are four scale-model villages Aries/Rat has designed and will present to the city council for possible use as housing projects. Upstairs, next to the bed, sits a thick notebook full of Aries/Rat’s first novel. Down in the kitchen you will find the fridge overflowing with carefully wrapped planned meals for the week. It is impossible to keep up with this subject. Don’t try.
But don’t sit around and look unbusy either. Aries/Rats cannot tolerate idleness in others. They are kindly and will assist their loved ones in enterprises of all variety, but they will not invest time or funds in your plan while you lie on the couch for ten days watching your toenails grow.
Aries/Rats love a challenge. They are not afraid to take off into a strange cold land by themselves. They could open the market for humidifiers in the Amazon basin. Aries/Rats inspire confidence. They are not just good salespeople. But they are brilliant at the trappings that go with selling: expensive business lunches, gifts for the executives’ wives, champagne delivered to your hotel room and truffles for breakfast. Who could resist such open-handedness?
As for open-mindedness, well, that’s another story. Aries/Rats, despite their amiability and charm, are slightly on the old-fashioned side-especially where the fashion concerns a member of their family. Call it hypocrisy. Aries/Rats may enjoy a wild “social” life, rife with lovers and thick with intrigue, but they prefer that their mates and kinder remain straight arrows all the way down the line. “Do as I say, not as I do.”
Aries/Rat is a nervous type. If he appears calm and exudes peacefulness, it’s forced and false. Neuroses are always a simmer in the background. Life is never nearly so terrific as Aries/Rats likes to make it appear. Aries/Rats are impatient and sizzling with the spirit of “let’s get going.” They hate to be late and they never waste time.
Aries/Rat wants power. But he is not willing to take the heat that goes with the dominion over others. The Aries/Rats character is that of a slightly naďve monarch. The nature of Aries/Rat lends itself to ruing. But to be a boss you must also be a meany, play policemen, enforce rules and regulations. On the whole, subjects don’t “like” those who lead them. Aries/Rat, although position appeals to him or her, will not be able to put up with being hated. The loneliness if sovereignty would kill Aries/Rat. If he were king or she were queen, who would they talk to?
Aries/Rat is in a hurry. Lending a quick nervous mind to so many different plans and projects causes this person to wax edgy and grow pernickety at times. Aries/Rat is efficient. Why does the rest of the world have to be so indolent, so uninvolved, so free from worry and care? How dare they take time to smell the roses? There is no time. It’s already scheduled for a meeting, an errand, a buying spree, a committee luncheon or a ceremony. Aries/Rats don’t give poetry much quarter. They can’t. They really are too busy being busy.
Aries benefits from being born in Rat years. The added Rat guile gives the Ram a better chance at success. With a dose of Rat wisdom thrown in, the excessive Aries will be curtailed. Aries/Rat knows how to fight. But unlike other Aries subjects, he will never stoop to street scrapping or conscious vulgarity. The Aries/Rat is after bigger quarry than a mere physical victory. Aries/Rat wants moral triumphs… and lots of money to go with them.
LOVE
In the beginning, Aries/Rat never has much trouble with love. The young Aries/Rat is energetic, attractive and wily enough to seduce and conquer easily. Moreover, the younger they are, the more flexible and gentle the Aries/Rat allow themselves to be So parties and dancing, dates galore and even some social drinking will play a big part in the Aries/Rat’s early adult life.
But middle age, work, responsibility, kids, social status and the necessity to acquire material wealth has a toning-down effect on this subject. Aries/Rat mellow backward. That is, they start out tender and gentle, funny and silly, and by middle age take every love affair as seriously as Hiroshima.
This reversal of the fun-in-love pattern stems from the grown-up Aries/Rat’s unhealthy preoccupation with doing the right thing. Where most people loosen up as they grow into their thirties and forties, the Aries/Rat tightens and panics. Am I old? Am I ugly? Should I diet? Will I please? As an adult, the Aries/Rat is plagued by self-doubt in love. For this reason, when an Aries/Rat of a certain experience falls in love, you can hear the thud for a thousand miles around. Beware of the elder Aries/Rat who adores you, calls you thirty times a day and sends you so many flowers you’ll wake up one day and think you’re already in your coffin… wreaths of roses, baskets of posies, truckloads of gladiolas. It’s love, Aries/Rat style.
COMPATIBILITIES
(applies to all human beings evolving around you –whatever the link)
You ought to go looking for a Gemini (born in May or June) / Dragon (born between Feb./1988 and Feb./1989 or Feb./2000 and Feb./2001) or Ox (born between Feb./1997 and Feb./1998 or Feb./2009 and Feb./2010), a Leo (born in July or August) / Dragon or Leo / Ox, or even a rollicking Sagittarius (born in November or December) / Monkey (born between Feb./1992 and Feb./1993 or Feb./2004 and Feb./2005). Aquarians (born in January or February) of the Pig years (born between Feb./1995 and Feb./1996 or Feb./2007 and Feb./2008) or even persuasion will lighten your spirits, too. Stay away from Cancer (born in June or July) / Cats (born between Feb./1999 and Feb./2000) and Capricorns (born in December or January) born in Horse years (born between Feb./1990 and Feb./1991 or Feb./2002 and Feb./2003). You don’t see eye to eye on important subjects – like money!
HOME AND FAMILY
Oh, to have an Aries/Rat parent! Talk about involved, this person digs in with both hands and lives vicariously everything the children do, from their first drool to their final wave as they go off to college. Mother Aries/Rat makes clothes for her children and costumes for the school play. She bakes cookies for the Sunday school bazaar and volunteers to direct and produce the kids’ senior play. Father Aries/Rat heft their kids over rocks and rills at age two just to get them out into nature, tech them about birds – and to show them all the property they will inherit one day. As a parent, Aries/Rat is wonderful, responsible and lovingly strict.
As brothers or sisters, Aries/Rat are not so laudable. They tend to be critical of their siblings and feel superior to them. Aries/Rat might be the one to take on the raison of a nephew or niece because the child is difficult at home, or because of illness or divorce. But don’t think that Aries/Rat charity is free. The Aries/Rat will never let you forget how “good” he/she has been.
Aries/Rat children are great fun. They are energetic in the extreme, but they usually are not naughty or unruly. Aries/Rat kids love taking part in sports or other extracurricular activities. They will be popular and work well in class. At home, they must be reminded to take time away from hobbies to do homework. They will be talented for art. This must be encouraged. Never humiliate an Aries/Rat child. You will not be forgiven.
PROFESSION
It’s hardly necessary to tell you that Aries/Rats are incurably ambitious. They like to work – on anything and everything. They are always gifted for their profession. They take joy in planning and organizing, finding things out and even in filling out boring administrative forms. Success arrives at Aries/Rat’s doorstep without any apparent effort being made to attract it. Aries/Rat is not interested in living poorly or in feeling inferior to his neighbours and coworkers. Therefore, Aries/Rat, who has energy to expend anyway and never shirks chores, is a natural achiever.
If I had to hire someone and I had to choose among several candidates, I’d look for the Aries/Rat in the lot. They are not only vibrant and intelligent, but they are loyal to any cause they take up. You couldn’t ask for a more committed employee. You might, however, be surprised at the cost of this commitment to your monthly payroll. Aries/Rats do not work for peanuts. They do wonderful jobs at whatever they do, so it’s probably worth it. But if you’re looking for a bargain basement sales manager, don’t hire an Aries/Rat. They never give up until they have earned “enough” money, which is about one million more than is “enough” for me or you. Aries/Rats like luxury and are not afraid to go after it.
scumdog
19th July 2013, 13:05
Eff-me, who the hell can be buggered reading all that shit?
ESPECIALLY as it's astrology clap-trap...
scissorhands
19th July 2013, 13:15
The gist is probably something like an aggressive self serving narcissist whos into money.....
Banditbandit
19th July 2013, 13:17
David Bains birthday astrology:
I'm terribly sorry - but can you go and be autistic somewhere else for a while please ...
Smifffy
19th July 2013, 15:56
well thats exactly what happens
you ostrasize people , ie remove them , either by phyisical or emotional means and you start to create "unstable " beings
if you treat em like cunts they will be cunts , it aint rocket science
Stephen
Then again most cunts get treated perfectly normally until they start acting like cunts.
Cunts act like cunts and they get treated like cunts.
scissorhands
19th July 2013, 16:21
Then again most cunts get treated perfectly normally until they start acting like cunts.
Cunts act like cunts and they get treated like cunts.
So all those school kids who get bullied are cunts?:mad:
Maybe some times when the cops act like judge, jury and executioner...
they may have it wrong?
The logic told me once by a cop was:
well nobody else likes you, so the problem must be with you.
Smifffy
19th July 2013, 16:45
So all those school kids who get bullied are cunts?:mad:
Maybe some times when the cops act like judge, jury and executioner...
they may have it wrong?
The logic told me once by a cop was:
well nobody else likes you, so the problem must be with you.
No, most times it's the bullies that are the cunts, and in later life it's the bullies rather than the picked on kids that go on to do cunty things.
FWIW my earlier sweeping generalisation was in regard to adults not kids.
scissorhands
19th July 2013, 16:51
Monkey brain group dynamics 101?
Brian d marge
19th July 2013, 19:38
Then again most cunts get treated perfectly normally until they start acting like cunts.
Cunts act like cunts and they get treated like cunts.
that is also true , why are they acting like that in the first place !!
also you REALLY dont want people running around and taking the law into their own hand or unrestrained police ...
Really Really not good
Stephen
Drew
20th July 2013, 13:41
well thats exactly what happens
you ostrasize people , ie remove them , either by phyisical or emotional means and you start to create "unstable " beings
if you treat em like cunts they will be cunts , it aint rocket science
Stephen
Oh, so anyone who is ostracised is autistic?
Fuck me, yet another group of people complaining about segregation. All the while further distancing themselves from those they are blaming.
People are fucking dumb!!!!
scissorhands
20th July 2013, 23:28
I spent the first 15 years of my life on the edge of abuse. Call it disproportionate pressure. My alterity was always under fire. And, in the early 70's, just being excused from school to a shrink's appointment was generally traumatic. Nothing physical, but a slow drone of critical focus certainly gave me a lifetime sense that the rest of the world was implicitly antagonistic. Of course, my 2 years in the military, where the abuse got down to the nitty gritty, corroborated my earlier suspicions. No doubt stress acerbates AS maladaptives. I never sit w/ my back to the door.
[cutnpasted from another world]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQlM59sDJVo
Berries
21st July 2013, 00:11
Oh, so anyone who is ostracised is autistic?
I can paint. What's your fucking problem?
Brian d marge
21st July 2013, 00:58
Oh, so anyone who is ostracised is autistic?
Fuck me, yet another group of people complaining about segregation. All the while further distancing themselves from those they are blaming.
People are fucking dumb!!!!
ummm no
have another read
then have another try at an answer
Stephen
Drew
21st July 2013, 09:40
ummm no
have another read
then have another try at an answer
Stephen
You're gonna have to spell it out for me I'm afraid. Given the context, what I said is still the first thing that comes to mind after reading your post.
I got picked on and bullied as a kid. Far as I know I might be ever so slightly ADD, but I'd likely say not if anyone tried to label me.
Ah fuck it, my mind is too foggy and all over the show to try and talk about this. Might come back when I wake up.
Akzle
17th August 2013, 18:16
https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/18538646/hastings-man-shot-by-aos-rifle/
bwaaahahahahah.
scumdog
17th August 2013, 18:24
https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/18538646/hastings-man-shot-by-aos-rifle/
bwaaahahahahah.
So it wasn't you that wore the bullet then??
I guess you wouldn't be ha-fuckin'-ha-ing if it had been you...:shifty:
unstuck
17th August 2013, 18:25
https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/18538646/hastings-man-shot-by-aos-rifle/
bwaaahahahahah.
Must of been trying to eat all the grass man.:crazy:
Akzle
17th August 2013, 18:31
So it wasn't you that wore the bullet then??
I guess you wouldn't be ha-fuckin'-ha-ing if it had been you...:shifty:
wasnt me that 'accidentally' shot anyone either.
Id probably be in hospital on morphine and highly fucked off.
Why does a man on the ground in cuffs have a live weapon pointed at his back?
Taking bets on recourse. Im picking nil. Again.
unstuck
17th August 2013, 18:38
Taking bets on recourse. Im picking nil. Again.
Maybe, maybe not???
Must be really fucking with his head though, gonna be hard on all concerned I would think. I think most decent human beings would be concerned if they shot someone, accidentally or not.:eek5:
caseye
17th August 2013, 18:39
Well it'll be treated like any other firearms discharge and the poor bugger will no doubt be dealt to twice as hard as normal because he's a rozzer.
This is what the term accident should apply to and not everyone should always be charged, there is discretion for this to happen but as it's a policeman it'll not be waived.
Indiana_Jones
17th August 2013, 18:45
I reckon the worst he gets is being sacked. If any other Joe Blogs had done it, he'd be taken to the cleaners.
-Indy
Akzle
17th August 2013, 19:02
I think most decent human beings would be concerned
Nono. He was shot by a cop.
A 'specially trained' one.
Im loving that 'the rifle being carried' fired the bullet, not the dweeb holding it.... Tsktsk.
Akzle
17th August 2013, 19:03
Well it'll be treated like any other firearms discharge and the poor bugger will no doubt be dealt to twice as hard as normal because he's a rozzer.
This is what the term accident should apply to and not everyone should always be charged, there is discretion for this to happen but as it's a policeman it'll not be waived.
sorry, who was held to account when naitoko (sp?) was KILLED ('accidentally')
.?
-edit-
ive had a lot to do with guns. Never accidentally shot anyone.
Pointing a hot weapon at some one isnt an accident.
caseye
17th August 2013, 19:44
Akz, come on, they're people just like you and I, no one who is law abiding or enforcing wants to shoot anyone, they don't go out of their way to get into situations where someone gets hurt or killed, there is such a thing as a genuine accident, pity is our Gov't is hell bent on making all accidents events that can be categorized and classified as fault or no fault, usually fault so a revenue stream can be generated from it.
Smifffy
17th August 2013, 19:47
Cop probably thought it wasn't loaded.
scumdog
17th August 2013, 19:49
Nono. He was shot by a cop.
A 'specially trained' one.
Im loving that 'the rifle being carried' fired the bullet, not the dweeb holding it.... Tsktsk.
Ah well...whatcha going to do about it....
unstuck
17th August 2013, 19:51
Cop probably thought it wasn't loaded.
Surely not if AOS trained, no one knows all the details yet. I still reckon the cop will be feeling like shit about it. Caseys right, cops are humans too, and not immune from mistakes like the rest of us stupid humans.
Akzle
17th August 2013, 20:31
Akz, come on, they're people just like you and I, no one who is law abiding or enforcing wants to shoot anyone, they don't go out of their way to get into situations where someone gets hurt or killed, there is such a thing as a genuine accident, pity is our Gov't is hell bent on making all accidents events that can be categorized and classified as fault or no fault, usually fault so a revenue stream can be generated from it.
unfortunately wrong.
Cops are expected to be better than mere plebians.
They DO go into situations, with guns, with the EXPECTATION of having to SHOOT HUMANS.
Goes with the job. No ones forcing them to do that job.
As said. Pointing a loaded gun at someone is NOT an accident.
T.W.R
17th August 2013, 20:43
Pointing a loaded gun at someone is NOT an accident.
And why were the AOS there in the 1st place??? oh thats right the knuckle dragger had been threatening his own family with a loaded gun :weird:
Akzle
17th August 2013, 20:52
So it wasn't you that wore the bullet then??
I guess you wouldn't be ha-fuckin'-ha-ing if it had been you...:shifty:
wasnt me that 'accidentally' shot anyone either.
Id probably be in hospital on morphine and highly fucked off.
Why does a man on the ground in cuffs have a live weapon pointed at his back?
Taking bets on recourse. Im picking nil. Again.
Road kill
17th August 2013, 20:54
Shit happens an the cunt shouldn't of been lying about where he could get shot in the first place.<_<
98tls
17th August 2013, 20:57
And why were the AOS there in the 1st place??? oh thats right the knuckle dragger had been threatening his own family with a loaded gun :weird:
Amen,the only tragedy here was the bullet didnt take the cunts head off.
scumdog
17th August 2013, 20:59
wasnt me that 'accidentally' shot anyone either.
Id probably be in hospital on morphine and highly fucked off.
Why does a man on the ground in cuffs have a live weapon pointed at his back?
Taking bets on recourse. Im picking nil. Again.
You stoners can never remember when you've already posted somehting...
98tls
17th August 2013, 21:03
wasnt me that 'accidentally' shot anyone either.
Id probably be in hospital on morphine and highly fucked off.
Why does a man on the ground in cuffs have a live weapon pointed at his back?
Taking bets on recourse. Im picking nil. Again.
Am thinking that threatning his family with a gun might have something to do with it.Methinks the one thing this cunt will never do again is fuck about with a firearm:killingme:killingmeThe irony of it all is :killingmeJob well done i reckon.
T.W.R
17th August 2013, 21:09
Amen,the only tragedy here was the bullet didnt take the cunts head off.
:shifty: short barrel shotty with a round of buckshot would have done a more definitive job that a bushmaster at that range :msn-wink:
The PC bregade will play it for as much as it's worth because the gimp was playing little mr innocent when the cops did arrive, they've ( the cops) have no idea what they're dealing with, what state of mind the offender is in what he has concealed on him; all are going to be tense as boards with fear of what might be about to unfold. truth be known the trigger probably hooked up on something off the AOS member's vest and went off...who knows? If the story had unfolded differently with him coming out all guns blazing to regular police and had killed & maimed a couple then imagine the up-roar from that.
State of NZ justice is too leaning towards the crim rather than the victim & those that try to enforce the law and apprehend criminals.
98tls
17th August 2013, 21:23
:shifty: short barrel shotty with a round of buckshot would have done a more definitive job that a bushmaster at that range :msn-wink:
State of NZ justice is too leaning towards the crim rather than the victim & those that try to enforce the law and apprehend criminals.
Like i said pity it didnt take the cunts head off that way we wouldnt have to listen to the tidal wave of shit thats going to follow this not to mention the future benefit savings.Better luck next time eh and as its Saturday night who knows maybe tonight as within the next few hours coppers will be called out to hundreds of similar calls,actually make that over a thousand country wide.
Road kill
17th August 2013, 21:40
wasnt me that 'accidentally' shot anyone either.
Id probably be in hospital on morphine and highly fucked off.
Why does a man on the ground in cuffs have a live weapon pointed at his back?
Taking bets on recourse. Im picking nil. Again.
Rifle fired when cop slung it over his shoulder muzzle pointing down,,,loaded,safty off,,mistake.:doh:
Smifffy
17th August 2013, 21:48
Rifle fired when cop slung it over his shoulder muzzle pointing down,,,loaded,safty off,,mistake.:doh:
Guess he'll be shouting the boys a fair bit then. Could have just as easily shot one of them, that's the real concern.
Laava
17th August 2013, 21:55
Guess he'll be shouting the boys a fair bit then. Could have just as easily shot one of them, that's the real concern.
Thats exactly what I thought!
98tls
17th August 2013, 22:24
Guess he'll be shouting the boys a fair bit then. Could have just as easily shot one of them, that's the real concern.
Indeed,its a fuck up for sure mind you day in day out dealing with with fuck ups probably blunts the whole affair a tad.On an average cops attend 1800 domestic incidents every week what i find amusing is the outcry over events such as this but no mention week in week out of how fucked up it is that there having to attend so many:laugh:So quick to condemn the actions of a few whilst ignoring the shit that goes on around them on a daily basis.:laugh:
Edbear
18th August 2013, 03:11
And why were the AOS there in the 1st place??? oh thats right the knuckle dragger had been threatening his own family with a loaded gun :weird:
Indeed,its a fuck up for sure mind you day in day out dealing with with fuck ups probably blunts the whole affair a tad.On an average cops attend 1800 domestic incidents every week what i find amusing is the outcry over events such as this but no mention week in week out of how fucked up it is that there having to attend so many:laugh:So quick to condemn the actions of a few whilst ignoring the shit that goes on around them on a daily basis.:laugh:
Sums it up perfectly. Now watch the media stoke the fire. :doh:
unstuck
18th August 2013, 05:46
You stoners can never remember when you've already posted somehting...
OI, I can remember what I posted, I think. What was the question again?:scratch:
Drew
18th August 2013, 08:30
Indeed,its a fuck up for sure mind you day in day out dealing with with fuck ups probably blunts the whole affair a tad.On an average cops attend 1800 domestic incidents every week what i find amusing is the outcry over events such as this but no mention week in week out of how fucked up it is that there having to attend so many:laugh:So quick to condemn the actions of a few whilst ignoring the shit that goes on around them on a daily basis.:laugh:
That's all well and good. But it's only being said at times like now too. A least, by a lot of people.
Basic firearm safety got forgotten. Someone took a slug in the back because of it. And someone is going to get in the shit for it.
Banditbandit
19th August 2013, 09:52
Cop probably thought it wasn't loaded.
Yeah .... that's why he's in the shit .. he should have checked, he should have put on the safety ... he blew it big time and someone got shot ...
And why were the AOS there in the 1st place??? oh thats right the knuckle dragger had been threatening his own family with a loaded gun :weird:
Amen,the only tragedy here was the bullet didnt take the cunts head off.
Yeah ... well ... I happen to know this one ... and he's not what you think. He comes from a very well off family. His mother tries to look after him, but he's a handfull. He's been in and out of mental hospitals for many years.
While I don't defend scumbags .. this one is not. THis is a true mental illness case ...
T.W.R
19th August 2013, 10:20
Yeah ... well ... I happen to know this one ... and he's not what you think. He comes from a very well off family. His mother tries to look after him, but he's a handfull. He's been in and out of mental hospitals for many years.
While I don't defend scumbags .. this one is not. THis is a true mental illness case ...
Dunno about that...aggravated robbery, bomb threat on a bus and numerous other crimes; may have a mental illness but still dangerous :yes:
Banditbandit
19th August 2013, 11:12
Dunno about that...aggravated robbery, bomb threat on a bus and numerous other crimes; may have a mental illness but still dangerous :yes:
Oh I agree .. to a certain extent ...
He has been very badly treated by the mental health authorities (including once being remanded in custody to a psychiatric clinic by the courts - the clinic then let him out for the weekend - despite him being on remand - dumped him in a cheap hotel for the weekend with no food or money - he tried to rob a petrol station - doh !!!)
He can appear very dangerous - so he gets treated that way - but he has never actually done a lot - mostly threats and over reactions on his part ...
He's very sick .. but needs treatment and care by the mental health authorities ... who don't want to know - He's more likely to wind up dead (as in this incident) than to hurt someone else ..
T.W.R
19th August 2013, 11:28
Oh I agree .. to a certain extent ...
He has been very badly treated by the mental health authorities (including once being remanded in custody to a psychiatric clinic by the courts - the clinic then let him out for the weekend - despite him being on remand - dumped him in a cheap hotel for the weekend with no food or money - he tried to rob a petrol station - doh !!!)
He can appear very dangerous - so he gets treated that way - but he has never actually done a lot - mostly threats and over reactions on his part ...
He's very sick .. but needs treatment and care by the mental health authorities ... who don't want to know - He's more likely to wind up dead (as in this incident) than to hurt someone else ..
IE: in short he shouldn't be out in public :yes:
Drew
19th August 2013, 11:37
Oh I agree .. to a certain extent ...
He has been very badly treated by the mental health authorities (including once being remanded in custody to a psychiatric clinic by the courts - the clinic then let him out for the weekend - despite him being on remand - dumped him in a cheap hotel for the weekend with no food or money - he tried to rob a petrol station - doh !!!)
He can appear very dangerous - so he gets treated that way - but he has never actually done a lot - mostly threats and over reactions on his part ...
He's very sick .. but needs treatment and care by the mental health authorities ... who don't want to know - He's more likely to wind up dead (as in this incident) than to hurt someone else ..Cue that fucken Scissorhands!
IE: in short he shouldn't be out in public :yes:The system is ill prepared for permanent care unfortunately. And private care costs more than you could imagine.
Committing someone for the good of themselves and others, is fucken hard to do long term.
Banditbandit
19th August 2013, 11:45
IE: in short he shouldn't be out in public :yes:
Yes - exactly - but as Drew says, the system is not set up for that ... "community care" and all the shit ..
T.W.R
19th August 2013, 11:50
The system is ill prepared for permanent care unfortunately. And private care costs more than you could imagine.
Committing someone for the good of themselves and others, is fucken hard to do long term.
I know...have got a cousin with the mental age of 5 (now 42)...bloody shame Was in permanent care in Sunnyside then the system change and he was sent home then when he threw a wobbly the only way his father used to be to control him as a teenager when he got stroppy was to KO him, the way the system works is ridiculous they've got him in a halfway house type situation now and the things that happen there is unreal. I almost got expelled from my intermediate for defending him as he was in a special needs class that the school held...he used to get picked on continuously
Swoop
19th August 2013, 12:38
Cop probably thought it wasn't loaded.
Probably cleaning it... "oops, didn't know it was loaded Boss!".
Or... is this the new "execution arm" of the NZ Police? Has someone been on a fact-finding tour of Mexico and Colombia recently?
scumdog
19th August 2013, 18:51
Oh I agree .. to a certain extent ...
He has been very badly treated by the mental health authorities (including once being remanded in custody to a psychiatric clinic by the courts - the clinic then let him out for the weekend - despite him being on remand - dumped him in a cheap hotel for the weekend with no food or money - he tried to rob a petrol station - doh !!!)
He can appear very dangerous - so he gets treated that way - but he has never actually done a lot - mostly threats and over reactions on his part ...
He's very sick .. but needs treatment and care by the mental health authorities ... who don't want to know - He's more likely to wind up dead (as in this incident) than to hurt someone else ..
Courtesy of a previous governments "Integrate into society" policy...:pinch:
scissorhands
19th August 2013, 19:47
Cue that fucken Scissorhands!
Dont bring me into this
I'm way cleaner and better behaved than 99% of you 'normal' people
Smifffy
19th August 2013, 20:35
Dunno about that...aggravated robbery, bomb threat on a bus and numerous other crimes; may have a mental illness but still dangerous :yes:
The weapon he used in the aggravated robbery was a loaf of bread!
He may very well be dangerous but he didn't really deserve to be shot by someone who is relied upon to have a high level of self discipline and firearms expertise.
T.W.R
19th August 2013, 21:27
The weapon he used in the aggravated robbery was a loaf of bread!
A loaf of bread concealed to look like a weapon ;) there's a difference...there's been plenty of hold-ups staged with concealed items presented as weapons.... doesn't matter what he used, the intent was there & it's still an aggravated robbery :motu:
Smifffy
19th August 2013, 21:32
A loaf of bread concealed to look like a weapon ;) there's a difference...there's been plenty of hold-ups staged with concealed items presented as weapons.... doesn't matter what he used, the intent was there & it's still an aggravated robbery :motu:
I never really looked at it like that before. You're right. Shoot em all.
Banditbandit
20th August 2013, 10:32
A loaf of bread concealed to look like a weapon ;) there's a difference...there's been plenty of hold-ups staged with concealed items presented as weapons.... doesn't matter what he used, the intent was there & it's still an aggravated robbery :motu:
Yeah ... that's what I mean ... this guy looks dangerous ... something concealed to look like a weapon is asking for trouble .. but he's more likely to get himself killed pulling stupid shit like tat than actually hurting someone else ... I wouldn't blame the police for shooting him in that sort of situation ... but he really is a mental health case ...
unstuck
20th August 2013, 11:08
but he really is a mental health case ...
Do you know anyone who isnt? Everybody on this planet needs some sort of mental health help.It,s Just that some people hide it rather well, and keep it behind closed doors.:yes:
Drew
20th August 2013, 12:55
Do you know anyone who isnt? Everybody on this planet needs some sort of mental health help.It,s Just that some people hide it rather well, and keep it behind closed doors.:yes:
Speak for yourself. I'm one well adjusted mother fucker!
Scuba_Steve
20th August 2013, 13:00
Serial slaughtering stranglers
Jugular Juggling juggalos
Folded, fat, floppy-tittied freaks
I C fuckin P's in the hous!
unstuck
20th August 2013, 13:02
Serial slaughtering stranglers
Jugular Juggling juggalos
Folded, fat, floppy-tittied freaks
I C fuckin P's in the hous!
Hocus pocus trippin down the freeway.:Punk::Punk:
Scuba_Steve
20th August 2013, 13:05
Hocus pocus trippin down the freeway.:Punk::Punk:
All this talk of metal instability & shooting, I couldn't help but think of this :laugh:
unstuck
20th August 2013, 13:07
All this talk of metal instability & shooting, I couldn't help but think of this :laugh:
Bullshit, it was the three fat bitches you were thinking of.:whistle:
Scuba_Steve
20th August 2013, 13:10
Bullshit, it was the three fat bitches you were thinking of.:whistle:
Milenko! :msn-wink:
unstuck
20th August 2013, 13:12
I'm a circus ninja southwest voodoo wizard. :Punk::Punk:
scumdog
20th August 2013, 20:25
All this talk of metal instability & shooting, I couldn't help but think of this :laugh:
Metal instability??
Sort of like when gold prices fluctuate? or an iron-ore avalanche????:confused:
unstuck
21st August 2013, 07:32
Plenty of metal fans are unstable scummy, tis an illness.:headbang::headbang:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQvlGSOhPCxmrPLw9fNehx6B1-QZdzVU_THD7iDAFd5STRPtB-NRQ
Scuba_Steve
21st August 2013, 08:29
Plenty of metal fans are unstable scummy, tis an illness.:headbang::headbang:
Illness... or advantage!
unstuck
21st August 2013, 11:47
Illness... or advantage!
Im down with the sickness.:headbang::headbang:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSUVew_evS930OMDIeGb3vxpsdBSYdin 5goj4OvU0MH_GwevSnCHQ
scissorhands
21st August 2013, 17:40
Heavy metals cause all manner of neurological problems, 'heavy metal music' is just an expression of anger at corruption of society and of ones bodily corruption via ingested pollutants also including psychic pollutants
http://www.mercola.com/Downloads/bonus/chlorine/default.aspx
http://www.cannabisinvestments.com/mercury-and-heavy-metal-toxicity.html
http://www.drlwilson.com/PRACTITIONERS/TOXIC%20SHEET.pdf
Drew
21st August 2013, 17:47
Heavy metals cause all manner of neurological problems, 'heavy metal music' is just an expression of anger at corruption of society and of ones bodily corruption via ingested pollutants also including psychic pollutants
http://www.mercola.com/Downloads/bonus/chlorine/default.aspx
http://www.cannabisinvestments.com/mercury-and-heavy-metal-toxicity.html
http://www.drlwilson.com/PRACTITIONERS/TOXIC SHEET.pdfMaybe once apon a time. It's as commercial as any other genre these days though...Heard of a band called Metallica?
Smifffy
21st August 2013, 17:59
All that stuff about heavy metal and hard rock, I don't subscribe to any of that. It's all just music. I mean, the heavy metal from the Seventies sounds nothing like the stuff from the Eighties, and that sounds nothing like the stuff from the Nineties. Who's to say what is and isn't a certain type of music?
Ozzy Osbourne
T.W.R
21st August 2013, 18:43
:laugh: WooHoo we're digressing off toward Judas Priest & their song suicide solution :rolleyes: now where's that shotgun :lol:
scumdog
21st August 2013, 19:50
Plenty of metal fans are unstable scummy, tis an illness.:headbang::headbang:
Hell, even some of us old farts enjoy a bit of metal :headbang:- as long as it's the proper good stuff - not some obscure wannabe heavy metal band crap...
Drew
22nd August 2013, 06:21
Hell, even some of us old farts enjoy a bit of metal :headbang:- as long as it's the proper good stuff - not some obscure wannabe heavy metal band crap...You'd be down with a bit of Uriah Heap then Scummy?
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Banditbandit
22nd August 2013, 10:24
Heavy metals cause all manner of neurological problems, 'heavy metal music' is just an expression of anger at corruption of society and of ones bodily corruption via ingested pollutants also including psychic pollutants
Well - Duh !!!
Mom
22nd August 2013, 10:32
You'd be down with a bit of Uriah Heap then Scummy?
My all time Uriah Heap song. Wagging school, drinking booze and headbanging :headbang:
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