Wheelie advice for noob

[Angel_of_Metal]

Hey all!

I'm looking to learn how to start doin them wheelies and was just wondering if there is any specific bike that would be best to learn on? I am looking to get a cheapo $1.5k bike, as I have no intention of crashing my Honda! Any recommendations for bikes within this price range/how would I go about getting them road legal?

Also, any advice for where to/how to best go about trying them?

:banana:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hey all!

I'm looking to learn how to start doin them wheelies and was just wondering if there is any specific bike that would be best to learn on? I am looking to get a cheapo $1.5k bike, possibly a scorpio or NXR for it as I have no intention of crashing my Honda! Would this be a yay or nay idea?

Also, any advice for where to/how to best go about trying them?

:banana:

A dirt bike is the best way to start out. Use a mates bike too. Start out doing them uphill (much easiera). Practice by balancing on your chair on it's hind legs. (seriously). Wheelies are learnt through being able to feel balance point through the cheeks of your ass at first. WT has posted a good thread regarding wheelies. And he's good at them. Find it.

[Angel_of_Metal]

A dirt bike is the best way to start out. Use a mates bike too. Start out doing them uphill (much easiera). Practice by balancing on your chair on it's hind legs. (seriously). Wheelies are learnt through being able to feel balance point through the cheeks of your ass at first. WT has posted a good thread regarding wheelies. And he's good at them. Find it.

Cool thanks for that. Following on from get a dirt bike, I am looking to get one, but would have to be able to ride it on the road... Is there usually much that needs to be done to make them road legal?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Cool thanks for that. Following on from get a dirt bike, I am looking to get one, but would have to be able to ride it on the road... Is there usually much that needs to be done to make them road legal?

My pleasure. No...there are many road legal dual purpose bikes avail in NZ...no need for modification. Get hold of me if you need any help.

[White trash]

A dirt bike is the best way to start out. Use a mates bike too. Start out doing them uphill (much easiera). Practice by balancing on your chair on it's hind legs. (seriously). Wheelies are learnt through being able to feel balance point through the cheeks of your ass at first. WT has posted a good thread regarding wheelies. And he's good at them. Find it.

Awe shucks :love: thanks mate.

Buy this, best of both worlds. Road legal(ish), indestructible and cheap. Perfect wheelie bike.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=611024782

[nodrog]

Get a K6 GSXR thou, no need to practice on hills, and they are dual purpose (well mine was any way).

[Drew]

A dirt bike is the best way to start out. Use a mates bike too. Start out doing them uphill (much easiera). Practice by balancing on your chair on it's hind legs. (seriously). Wheelies are learnt through being able to feel balance point through the cheeks of your ass at first. WT has posted a good thread regarding wheelies. And he's good at them. Find it.

Jimmy is shit at wheelies.

Balance point is easy to feel, it's hard to wrap your head around though because it feels like it's falling back, when in fact it's sitting pretty.

Dirt bikes are easier and harder to wheelie at the same time I think. When you get them high enough, the balance point moves as the rear suspension compresses and extends.

Two strokes don't do it as bad, but they bite harder if you aren't goos on the throttle.

Anyhoo. Stand up wheelies give the maximum control I find, but that might have something to so with the fact that sitting down on the RF, it's too bulky to be able to see where I'm goin at all. Have to hang so far off one side to see past the fairing that the bike is well unstable...Not helped by being over tyred on the rear.

But I digress. Heaps of bikes in that price range to learn on, ALWAYS use the clutch to lift the front, and when it starts to go tits up, STAB THE BACK BRAKE! I cannot stress that enough, your first reaction when it gets too high will be to take your feet off the pegs. Don't do it! Stab the back brake hard and it will come down.

[Drew]

Get a K6 GSXR thou, no need to practice on hills, and they are dual purpose (well mine was any way).

I learned to wheelie on a K2 gixxer thou. K6 has a less neutral body position for it I found.

[george formby]

My G/F (and me) wants to learn wheelies. Been talking about stuff like this.

http://youtu.be/7LdrbwoRFXc

Apparently a guy has a set up in Germany with the bike in a drum to do the same thing.

[blackdog]

The best place to start learning, is outside a hospital.

[ducatilover]

Don't try and drag the number plate, or be named Doug.

And as Drew said, the rear brake is your Jesus.

[Smifffy]

The best place to start learning, is outside a hospital.

Yeah they have pretty big carparks, and now there are a lot that have only minimal services as 'triage centres' before choppering people to the main centres, so plenty of room.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Dirt bikes are easier and harder to wheelie at the same time I think. When you get them high enough, the balance point moves as the rear suspension compresses and extends.
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Dirt bikes are a piece of piss to wheelie Son. You just haven't spent enough time on 'em. An RMZ450 is THE best bike ever for wheelies that I've ever ridden. A KX500 is pretty good also.

[bogan]

Dirt bikes are a piece of piss to wheelie Son. You just haven't spent enough time on 'em. An RMZ450 is THE best bike ever for wheelies that I've ever ridden. A KX500 is pretty good also.

Even my 125 picks the front up quite readily, a somewhat more abrupt power-band than other bikes makes it a bit of a handful at the tipping point though. The 450 4Ts are so much easier, would be my pick for learning. Though I'd recommend getting a 250 4T and head to the track, then you'll have the more fun challenge of keeping the front down :D

[Drew]

Dirt bikes are a piece of piss to wheelie Son. You just haven't spent enough time on 'em. An RMZ450 is THE best bike ever for wheelies that I've ever ridden. A KX500 is pretty good also.

Dunno if you took my meaning correctly. I can wheelie dirt bikes just fine. The 450's are so easy to hoist it's like cheating. But to get it sitting in third gear, and not getting faster actually takes more time to settle than a road bike. Because you're settling the swingarm to a further extent than a road bike.

Wheelies are one of the few things left, which I back myself as good at.

[fridayflash]

ive been a wheelie addict since childhood, when street prowess was measured in how many lampost lengths you could wheelstand
old banana bikes were the best, early ten speeds with the bars turned up were pretty slick too hehe
as for motorbikes im not great at it...long-ish wheelies offroad and modestly staunch looking powerstands on roadbikes
are about my limit, ive always envied those that could get a bike up to balance and stay there 'til they run outa juice
dirtbikes are best/easiest to learn on..but the older twinshock are bestest of the all as they dont pogo around
i rode a mint xr500a a few months ago...had to pop the wheel up for nostalgia, and fruck me it was sooo easy
i woulda bought it just to be the neighborhood wheelie king, but couldnt really afford it at the time :(
i know guys who bought a 500a new...then traded up to the prolink a year later and say the twin shock was
the pick for wheelies...helps having the rear axle almost directly under your arse too

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=280214&d=1363764743

[fridayflash]

p.s...i should bought that xr, mostly original, near mint, nos seat and a nos original exhaust wrapped in plastic to go with it...the guy didnt wanna put it on the bike so bought the cycleworks unit as a poor alternative.honestly it felt like riding a new bike
....$4500 :(

[Crasherfromwayback]

i rode a mint xr500a a few months ago...had to pop the wheel up for nostalgia, and fruck me it was sooo easy
i woulda bought it just to be the neighborhood wheelie king, but couldnt really afford it at the time :(
i know guys who bought a 500a new...then traded up to the prolink a year later and say the twin shock was
the pick for wheelies...helps having the rear axle almost directly under your arse too

]

Yeah they're a goodun for the job. That's a gorgeous example of a 500A bar the Cycleworks muffler. I dig them and TT500's.

[Crasherfromwayback]

p.s...i should bought that xr, mostly original, near mint, nos seat and a nos original exhaust wrapped in plastic to go with it...the guy didnt wanna put it on the bike so bought the cycleworks unit as a poor alternative.honestly it felt like riding a new bike
....$4500 :(

$4500.00? I would brought it for that in a heartbeat.

[fridayflash]

yep...im shitted off that i didnt, i had gone with a mate who was looking to buy it then didnt :nono:
reg n wof even

[Crasherfromwayback]

yep...im shitted off that i didnt, i had gone with a mate who was looking to buy it then didnt :nono:
reg n wof even

Bad buzz!!!

[fridayflash]

yep, closest to that condition ive seen in recent years was a low mileage orig..still in california
looking for expressions of interest....a gut hit the $5000 buynow right away! too cheap maybe
but the nz orig with reg n wof probably woulda been the better bike

[bosslady]

anyone ever done a wheelie on a gn?

[Crasherfromwayback]

anyone ever done a wheelie on a gn?

Yep. No problem.

[Drew]

anyone ever done a wheelie on a gn?Yip.

125 and 250 both. They're light, so they can be wheelied really easily.

I think one of the most surprising bikes to wheelie, was a GB400. Bloody hell was it easy!

[unstuck]

anyone ever done a wheelie on a gn?

Yep, straight into a fence with the girlfriend on the back, never liked her stupid bike anyway.:devil2:

[fridayflash]

yep, ive wheelied a gn too.. could get it up in 2nd with clutch and change into 3rd but ran outs puff about then
...stadning on the back pegs was easier