Tyre wear & handling? [Archive]

xXGIBBOXx

18th July 2013, 17:54

SVboy

18th July 2013, 18:00

haydes55

18th July 2013, 18:02

I have a set of Bridgestone battle axe 023s on my cb400 . They are down to about 2/3s wear and a bit slidey . And feel like my shinkos did on my 250 . Slidey on top, grip on the side .Is this the norm for dual tyre ?

Your suspension all good? So you're spinning the wheel accelerating and braking makes it skid? But you have no loss of grip in corners?

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Rhys

18th July 2013, 18:10

I have the same tyre in the wet on some surfaces they do move about a bit, on straits only, I found they improved with a bit lower tyre pressure, I assume they were running to cold?

xXGIBBOXx

18th July 2013, 18:14

Nar just powering on in the corner . Shinko did it sport demon didn't .suspension could come up one click , tyre bout the psi for me and the and the bike

xXGIBBOXx

18th July 2013, 18:19

38psi for a 160/60/17 bout 100kg rider ( I like pies and redbull)

haydes55

18th July 2013, 18:25

38psi for a 160/60/17 bout 100kg rider ( I like pies and redbull)

Pies would make you heavier, but red bull gives you wings. So they should cancel each other out right?

Oakie

18th July 2013, 19:07

I had a CB400 and ran Battleaxe BT56 Fs on it

My records show I got 18500km out of the front one and 21800km out of the rear one. They did wear in the middle eventually but not slidey bad. You know ho many ks on the tyres?

fridayflash

18th July 2013, 19:13

so these tyres are dual compound and felt ok when were new/full tread?

nzspokes

18th July 2013, 19:23

38psi for a 160/60/17 bout 100kg rider ( I like pies and redbull)

Are they the tyres that came on the bike? Have you checked there age? On the side of them is a 4 number date code which shows the date they came out of the mold.

My Hornet came with Pilots that looked ok but were nasty to ride. I checked the date code to see they were both 07 tyres.:eek5: Changed out and now all is good.

xXGIBBOXx

18th July 2013, 20:12

Bikes in the shed will check the date in the morning , I have put 12000kms on them looked to but bout halfwayish when I got the bike

Oakie

18th July 2013, 20:28

Bikes in the shed will check the date in the morning , I have put 12000kms on them looked to but bout halfwayish when I got the bike

Probably ready for replacement then.

nzspokes

18th July 2013, 20:30

Bikes in the shed will check the date in the morning , I have put 12000kms on them looked to but bout halfwayish when I got the bike

12000? Youve not had it that long.

xXGIBBOXx

18th July 2013, 20:42

12000? Youve not had it that long.

old job 70 mms a day plus fun and summer was good . And yeah new hoops are on the cards got the coin just don't know what I want in my size . Sport demons don't a I 160 I was told .

nzspokes

18th July 2013, 20:43

old job 70 mms a day plus fun and summer was good . And yeah new hoops are on the cards got the coin just don't know what I want in my size . Sport demons don't a I 160 I was told .

What sizes is it?

xXGIBBOXx

18th July 2013, 20:58

120/??/17 front and a 160/60/17 rear

Oakie

18th July 2013, 22:37

I can recommend the Michelin Pilot Road 3 if you're looking for a change.

Never had a problem with the BattleAxe either though.

motogpwerks Chris

19th July 2013, 02:57

I wouldn't worry about the tires and spend the money on the suspension should cost maybe $1000 if done right ,at 100kg thats 20kg over what your spring rate could even handle and the poor old shim stack would be having a heartattack.
You need to get your local suspension company to re-valve and re-spring front and rear urgently and will be night and day difference .
The first amount off money spent on a bike should not be a exhaust but in suspension tuning for comfort and peace off mine .
At 38psi thats what harleys have or goldwings (maybe).
Instead off asking people who don't know ask the trusted tech guy you have your bike serviced.
Even at 100kg front maybe 35 and the rear 33 cold.

xXGIBBOXx

19th July 2013, 06:08

The load limit for the bike is 140kg so it shouldn't be the suspension. And has only started do it in the last few weeks

motogpwerks Chris

19th July 2013, 07:42

The load limit for the bike is 140kg so it shouldn't be the suspension. And has only started do it in the last few weeks

What has the load limit to do with suspension tuning ?????????? Most modern bikes are sprung for 73kg-85kg or 175-185lbs riders after that usually a good revalve and or springs depending on rider and type off riding benefits the rider and tire wear .................

nzspokes

19th July 2013, 07:54

120/??/17 front and a 160/60/17 rear

Well i was getting less than 12000k on the rear of the bandit so your doing well. I would see if you can get Pilot road 2s or 3s in those sizes. I think you can. Gremlins getting 23000k on his Hornet out of PR2s. 3 give better wet grip. I love mine. See what Drury tyres can do.

Oakie

19th July 2013, 17:38

PR2s. 3 give better wet grip. I love mine. See what Drury tyres can do.

Amen to that. P3s are great in the wet.

Vinz0r

19th July 2013, 17:40

Amen to that. P3s are great in the wet.

+1 (10charasdbhvlabdv)

Oakie

19th July 2013, 17:46

What has the load limit to do with suspension tuning ??????????

Well pretty much the nearer you get to it, the more important it becomes! If you have a guy with a worn tyre though, as we have here, replacing the rubber is way more important than the bouncy springy things.

My CB400 was rated at 149kg worth of rider and pillion so me at 90kg didn't really demand suspension work ... although it would have improved things. I do agree though, to improve performance, deal with the suspension before the go faster noisy bits.

xXGIBBOXx

19th July 2013, 18:57

I put a cheap can on it for 190 and it does the job .lol the date thing is t0905 does that make it a 05 tyre ? Was thinking pr3

The Reibz

19th July 2013, 19:07

Lol if its a 2005 tire, get it the farrrrrk off there. Do a burnout first though...

nzspokes

19th July 2013, 20:17

I put a cheap can on it for 190 and it does the job .lol the date thing is t0905 does that make it a 05 tyre ? Was thinking pr3

9th month of 05. At least the bastard will last well. Get it off the bike before it hurts you.

Kickaha

19th July 2013, 21:13

9th month of 05..
9th week....

nzspokes

19th July 2013, 21:46

9th week....

I stand corrected, or rather sit. Ta.

Grant`

20th July 2013, 09:28

Yeah have to say pr2's and 3's are all good and so are the metzeler z8's which I have on my bike now.

george formby

20th July 2013, 12:06

9th month of 05. At least the bastard will last well. Get it off the bike before it hurts you.

Ah, it becomes clear. Poor thing is dying of boredom. Get some new un's.

12'000k? Wish I could get over half that on a rear. 021, 023 rears are toast in less than 6k for me but i love em.