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Crasherfromwayback
21st July 2013, 19:50
Ko'ed my SR and my fuggin TV!!!

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skippa1
21st July 2013, 19:55
Ahh shit. Pretty woBly in New Plymouth too

98tls
21st July 2013, 19:58
Bugger still could have been worse eh.Rang my old Aunty who lives in Mt Vic and poor old thing got a hell of a fright.Glad it wasnt worse for you guys.

Laava
21st July 2013, 19:58
Shit that is a bit rough mate! Have some Nurofen, they're on the couch!

paturoa
21st July 2013, 20:01
Fecking clever that earth quake. It moved shook the old kwaka from the shed to your lounge.

oldrider
21st July 2013, 20:02
:shifty: Very observant that man! :niceone: ... :laugh:

nzspokes
21st July 2013, 20:04
Oh thats tough. Hope its all fixable.

hayd3n
21st July 2013, 20:14
Bugger still could have been worse eh.Rang my old Aunty who lives in Mt Vic and poor old thing got a hell of a fright.Glad it wasnt worse for you guys.

you shouldn't ring your auntie if your only gonna scare her

montsta56
21st July 2013, 20:16
At least you've got some nurofen to help ease the Pain.

Paul in NZ
21st July 2013, 20:17
It was a bloody shocker all right...

We were in the venerable Caldina and I went - "ooooerrr we have a flat tyre" and pulled over.... Only flat tyre that kept wobbling the car after we parked.... In fact only quake I've felt while I was driving!

Some of Miss Vicki's 'treasures' decided to plunge to their deaths..... Meh - hordes of the things await a spare wall space in cupboards....

Bikes upright - fridge still cold - sorted....

mashman
21st July 2013, 20:18
Ooooo, it fell of its stool. Seriously man, you put it on a stool and yer complaining ;)

mossy1200
21st July 2013, 20:23
Looks like your bike was watching tele at the time.:facepalm:

GSW
21st July 2013, 20:26
I see stuff.co.nz are using your photo Pete

Maha
21st July 2013, 20:29
You were watching the Voice!!!!!! :eek5:

Grashopper
21st July 2013, 20:35
Good news is that the TV still seems to be running ok. But yeah, I've been wondering about the stability of those flat screens since I had to cat sit a friends cat that liked to jump behind her new 40 inch tv to hunt dust bunnies. That was very nerve wrecking... :crazy:

Hope the bike is ok, too.
Was in Whakapapa this afternoon and then rode back. Didn't feel anything on the way or in Taupo.

Ocean1
21st July 2013, 20:39
Ko'ed my SR and my fuggin TV!!!

And you left it there, dribbling it's vital fluids all over the axminster while you took pichers!

Call yourself a biker?!!

Big Dave
21st July 2013, 20:40
You were watching the Voice!!!!!! :eek5:

Not nearly as ghey as recognising the set in a photo.

bogan
21st July 2013, 20:40
Yeh the stock stands for big screen TVs always look a bit shit, replaced mine with about 40kg of steel.

Kwakas always seem to find an excuse for a lie down so I wouldn't read too much into that.

MD
21st July 2013, 20:44
Shit that is a bit rough mate! Have some Nurofen, they're on the couch!

Bugger you beat me to that line.

The Wife took exception to me yelling from another room for her to hold the TV screen up while she was sheltering under the door frame. Who cares about the bloody door frame getting damaged, when did we last watch the door frame?

Women, we will never figure out how their minds work.

Smifffy
21st July 2013, 20:47
Not nearly as ghey as recognising the set in a photo.

I figured the gayer on the tele musta hit a good bass note and Pete had the speakers cranked right up.

Still sucks that the green parrot fell off it's perch. Hope no damage done

Swoop
21st July 2013, 20:55
Has the beehive been damaged?

If not, can everyone please go there and do some damage?

Ta muchly!

caspernz
21st July 2013, 21:14
Kwakas always seem to find an excuse for a lie down so I wouldn't read too much into that.

Just watched Sykes' green beast do the flame out at Moscow...twas more impressive Pete!!

98tls
21st July 2013, 21:20
Bugger you beat me to that line.

The Wife took exception to me yelling from another room for her to hold the TV screen up while she was sheltering under the door frame. Who cares about the bloody door frame getting damaged, when did we last watch the door frame?

Women, we will never figure out how their minds work.

:killingme:killingme.Had a chuckle when watching the footage on the news,one chick dives under the table the other runs about like a mad hen then heads out the door,overweight or not she was never going to outrun the quake.

Flip
21st July 2013, 21:28
I found it suprisingly stressfull seeing the news tonight.

I know what you are going through.

Flip

Brian d marge
21st July 2013, 21:28
:killingme:killingme.Had a chuckle when watching the footage on the news,one chick dives under the table the other runs about like a mad hen then heads out the door,overweight or not she was never going to outrun the quake.

Them called "stupid people" , used for a variety of things

cannon fodder

voting

Living in countrys that others wouldnt , ( America)

Consumerism

reading my posts on the internet

any form of fashion what so ever

running large government ) and some private ) organisations


Stephen


Ps as long as the brake plate wasnt broken all is well in Kawasaki land

AllanB
21st July 2013, 21:31
I still put a brick either side of the rear wheel and strap the bars to the garage roof almost 3 years on from CHCH Sept 2010 shake.....

98tls
21st July 2013, 21:35
I figured the gayer on the tele musta hit a good bass note and Pete had the speakers cranked right up.

Still sucks that the green parrot fell off it's perch. Hope no damage done

Made me think of the "Green Parrot bar/resturant" up there in Wellington,used to be one of the all time great feeds when one had had a few.

Oakie
21st July 2013, 21:53
I found it suprisingly stressfull seeing the news tonight.

I know what you are going through.

Flip

Yep. Won't be watching any more coverage of it tonight if I can help it. Surprised how close to the surface all those bad feelings were still lurking. I reckon there'll be a heap of nervy people around Chch tomorrow.

Mental Trousers
21st July 2013, 22:17
Even felt that one up here in Hamilton. I had literally just stood up and I started swaying. Thought it was either an earth quake or I'd had too much beer. Seeing as I wasn't lying in somebodies garden I ruled out the latter.

Must've been farken spectacular for you up in the penthouse Pete.

MadDuck
21st July 2013, 22:27
:killingme:killingme.Had a chuckle when watching the footage on the news,one chick dives under the table the other runs about like a mad hen then heads out the door,overweight or not she was never going to outrun the quake.

Yes how people react in a situation they have never experienced before will be unique. Laugh all you want. You have no idea of how you will react until you are there.

Today was my first experience of what it feels like first hand. Hats off to the Christchurch people. I now have just mini idea of what you went through.

HenryDorsetCase
21st July 2013, 22:35
make sure you have some water. fill your pots if you have nothing else. keep your torches handy. Dress warm and wear shoes you can walk ten k in. Have your shit ready to go. No, not joking.

mossy1200
21st July 2013, 22:46
I have a working coal range as long as the chimney stays up.
Water storage could be improved im thinking. Might get a few big containers sorted.

Naki Rat
21st July 2013, 22:57
Just getting the chook/duck feed ready after 5:00 and noticed the small garden tools swinging in the potting shed, then the large tools, then the Commodore was rocking on its suspension next door in the garage and the hedge outside was waving back and forward. Buggar that'll be an earthquake I thought, and it was.

On a serious note, good advice (from a CHCH survivor) I saw on another forum:

*For the next wee while, when you're in bed have a torch and shoes next to the bed. If a large quake happens at night you want to be able to see and walk around. There may be broken stuff on the ground.

*Don't fill your bath to save some drinking water, it'll slowly leak out the plug. Fill containers and sit them in the bath ;)

*Chuck some coke bottles filed with water in your freezer. If power goes off they will help keep it cold in there. You can move a couple to your fridge too. Once thawed you have drinking water.

*If there is a big quake, don't expect to be able to get to a doorway or anything if it's more than a step away. Even crawling is very very hard with lots of shaking.

*Muesli bars are the bomb when you need easy fast food and have no power as is Up and Go (keep an eye on dates!)

*Make sure you're insured.

*Don't sleep nuddy.

*Make sure you've got a couple tarps to cover broken windows, tape over big ones so if they crack they won't fall apart.

*To expand on this point, you are MUCH better to ensure all heavy/high stuff is secure rather than trying to get to a safe place (and expect everyone else to do the same). Very few homes collapsed in Chch, and most people hurt in homes were hurt by falling 'stuff' not collapsing homes. Check bookshelves, TVs, large dressers (a large solid, fully packed, rimu scotch chest flew into the air and landed face down in my girls bedroom), ornaments or other heavy stuff up high or on the wall, concrete header tanks etc.

*Keep your car at least 1/2 full of petrol, and if you have camping gear, make sure it's always in good condition for cooking (gas bottles refilled etc.).

*Supermarkets run out of bread, water, milk, flour and sugar so keep a good supply of those

*Keep in contact with partners/children making sure you know where they are most of the time.

*The whole duck cover hold is much better than trying to get to a doorway cause I got hurt by trying to walk as many people do.

*Do a wee check in the bedrooms at what is above beds cause when that stuff falls its very scary. Kids rooms are likely to have more things to fall.

*Put a bottle of water in your toilet systen to save waters in flushing

*You will get better contact through fb than txt so make sure you have important people in your friends list and you update your self on there.

*Dont put torches on shelves.....they smash! Doh

*And also if you have no power the best thing is outdoor solar lights.... you just bring them in at night and dot round the house. Easier than carrying a torch.

*Don't put pressure on yourself. Everyone reacts differently but it doesn't mean they are feeling any better/worse/differently. And the hyper-vigilance is exhausting!

*Shops re-open as soon as they can so you can probably get supplies pretty quickly.

*Keep some cash though because eftpos won't work without power.

*Leave your shoes by your bed upside down... stuff falls into them.

*Charge your phone now

*Check where candles, matches and spare batteries are now.

*Don't leave your containers of emergency water on the bench.

*Tidy your kids' bedroom floor.

*Put important doccuments together in a ziplock bag - ie birth certs, passports, insurance, phone numbers etc. You'll need these if you need emergency food grants from WINZ, helps with insurance claims etc.

*If you need to get supplies, get fewer essentials and take the express checkout. Can save lots of time queing.

*We hung a small torch on the back of each door so regardless of what room you were in there was a quick source if light.

*Take the level of water down from the top of the fish tank.

*If you drink milk it's worth stocking up a dozen 1L UHT cartons because when things are not normal*, but not terrible, it's nice to stick with your daily routines like cereal or milk in your coffee, or milk drink before bed for the kidlets, and UHT allows you to do that for several days without worrying about the shops.

jellywrestler
21st July 2013, 23:15
And you left it there, dribbling it's vital fluids all over the axminster while you took pichers!

Call yourself a biker?!!
that's his stockings

98tls
21st July 2013, 23:20
Yes how people react in a situation they have never experienced before will be unique. Laugh all you want. You have no idea of how you will react until you are there.

Indeed i will.Stupid is what stupid does.Even my old mum who lives in Christchurch said to me on the phone earlier tonight "where did that women think she was going to run to".After all the horrors of Christchurch i found it well strange to see someone react like that.

T.W.R
21st July 2013, 23:45
As having been at pretty much ground zero on Sept 4th 2010 Sympathy's go out for those having to go through the shitting things, they aren't pleasant and the swarms of wee buggers afterwards will keep you on your toes for a while.
You can't do F/A but just hang on for the ride :confused:

Maha
22nd July 2013, 07:06
:killingme:killingme.Had a chuckle when watching the footage on the news,one chick dives under the table the other runs about like a mad hen then heads out the door,overweight or not she was never going to outrun the quake.

Getting outside and away from the building (or stairwell) you're in, would be my priority, no work station will protect you from the floor/s above if they were to collapse (aka the CTV effect)

BoristheBiter
22nd July 2013, 07:26
:killingme:killingme.Had a chuckle when watching the footage on the news,one chick dives under the table the other runs about like a mad hen then heads out the door,overweight or not she was never going to outrun the quake.

She thought the line was "drop the sausage roll" so she tried but all she had was a pie.

BigAl
22nd July 2013, 08:16
Prolly the most action that bikes going to get:bleh:

Yeah real serious earthquake, streaming news banner on telly last night claiming "1 person injured"....... pfffft

imdying
22nd July 2013, 08:35
Consider it fair warning.

oneofsix
22nd July 2013, 08:47
Indeed i will.Stupid is what stupid does.Even my old mum who lives in Christchurch said to me on the phone earlier tonight "where did that women think she was going to run to".After all the horrors of Christchurch i found it well strange to see someone react like that.

The only person to get out of CTV building was the one that ran outside, running worked for her.
That said I am still with duck, cover and hold the fuck on.

A bit hard to duck and cover in this quake as I was in the shower during this one, all that glass, no cover (totally), and slippery floor, all I could do was wedge myself in the corner of the solid walls. Still glad I resisted the Mrs idea of going into Welly for our anniversary dinner.

Kickaha
22nd July 2013, 08:54
Getting outside and away from the building (or stairwell) you're in, would be my priority

Depends entirely on what building you're in

mashman
22nd July 2013, 08:55
The only person to get out of CTV building was the one that ran outside, running worked for her.
That said I am still with duck, cover and hold the fuck on.

A bit hard to duck and cover in this quake as I was in the shower during this one, all that glass, no cover (totally), and slippery floor, all I could do was wedge myself in the corner of the solid walls. Still glad I resisted the Mrs idea of going into Welly for our anniversary dinner.

I'm a GTFO person. Got half way across the room on Friday much to the amusement of my colleagues. I give a shit not, I'd rather not be stuck under the building... especially one that's surrounded by taller buildings.

Didn't put you off your stroke I hope.

oneofsix
22nd July 2013, 09:07
I'm a GTFO person. Got half way across the room on Friday much to the amusement of my colleagues. I give a shit not, I'd rather not be stuck under the building... especially one that's surrounded by taller buildings.

Didn't put you off your stroke I hope.

Yeah if in work, especially the stair well, I would try to get out if it was reasonable, like ground floor. Getting out of the stair well would certainly be a priority before ducking and covering.

Stroke? Anniversaries are good for not requiring such methods. :msn-wink:

Bikes stayed up right and then got several texts and an e-mail from work telling me to stay home today. I guess some good comes for some people. :cool: Pity the weather isn't up to a nice ride.

mashman
22nd July 2013, 09:20
Yeah if in work, especially the stair well, I would try to get out if it was reasonable, like ground floor. Getting out of the stair well would certainly be a priority before ducking and covering.

Stroke? Anniversaries are good for not requiring such methods. :msn-wink:

Bikes stayed up right and then got several texts and an e-mail from work telling me to stay home today. I guess some good comes for some people. :cool: Pity the weather isn't up to a nice ride.

Aye... we're 1st floor so reckon it'd be worth a bolt.

Sorry... it didn't put her off of her stroke :eek:.

Logged in this morning to be told not to go in today as the building needs to be inspected. Still got a phone conference today though... bloody technology, heh.

mrchips
22nd July 2013, 09:42
Ko'ed my SR and my fuggin TV!!!


Flash looking garage you have there ! :niceone:

HenryDorsetCase
22nd July 2013, 09:46
Getting outside and away from the building (or stairwell) you're in, would be my priority, no work station will protect you from the floor/s above if they were to collapse (aka the CTV effect)

DO NOT run for the stairway in a multistorey building. It is a motherfucking miracle no one took a header down a stairway here, or a bunch of people like lemmings. I have friends who were in the Clarendon tower here (stairway collapse) and the For Barr bulding. major stairway collapse. Plus it happened in the Grand Chancellor too. if you are in a multi storey building, duck cover hold till the shaking stops, get your shit, (I keep mine (to this day) in my pack by my desk: cellphone, keys wallet are good to go RIGHT NOW if I need to.) Spend thirty seconds assessing before committing. If in doubt hang back. Also dont just rush outside. Shit falling off of buildings will kill you. That young dude in that bar (Iconic I think) was killed that way.

You cannot rely on anyone but yourself. Unless you are greivously injured you need to sort yourself out. Because the people who you might think would look after you will have other stuff to do (civl def, firemen, pleece: you know pulling injured and dead people out of burning buildings). If you can walk, walk. Remember those shoes that you have to be able to walk ten k in? You are walking home right now. Your car is trapped in a carpark somewhere and all the roads are blocked, if not with broken shit then with numpties in cars trying to drive. or the roads are broken. Wellington is the worst case scenario for that. Cellphones dont work. A text message might. Eventually. Have a plan. And a back up plan. and be prepared.

Not that the earthquakes have affected me at all. Oh no.

The Reibz
22nd July 2013, 10:10
More concerning than the damage, is the fact there is a motorcycle in your lounge room.
Where can I find a woman that will allow me to do this?

F5 Dave
22nd July 2013, 10:15
Made me think of the "Green Parrot bar/resturant" up there in Wellington,used to be one of the all time great feeds when one had had a few.

Yeah me & a couple of mates used to go there after a night of working on project bikes at some silly hours.

Saw the bike on Stuff so thought I'd check here.

Crasherfromwayback
22nd July 2013, 11:28
You were watching the Voice!!!!!! :eek5:

Nah.The tv was just on. I left the partment with a friend, was about to get in the left when it started banging around like fuck on its rails. I realized what was happeneing then it kept gaining intensity. Had to hang on tight up here not to fall over. Sent ourselves down the stairs to get out of the place and went to the supermarket. Was a real mess there. Came home to this!

Crasherfromwayback
22nd July 2013, 11:31
Must've been farken spectacular for you up in the penthouse Pete.

Yeah it wobbles like fuck up here Bro!

pzkpfw
22nd July 2013, 11:34
So, going to work at mid-day.

Take bike? (Easier to get past "rubble"?)

Take car? (Easier to drive through "wobble"?)

Crasherfromwayback
22nd July 2013, 11:36
make sure you have some water. fill your pots if you have nothing else. keep your torches handy. Dress warm and wear shoes you can walk ten k in. Have your shit ready to go. No, not joking.

No shoes are gonna allow me to walk ten km's right now mate. But good advice anyway!

McFatty1000
22nd July 2013, 11:43
So, going to work at mid-day.

Take bike? (Easier to get past "rubble"?)

Take car? (Easier to drive through "wobble"?)

Take the bike - sat for four hours in traffic on 22nd feb - this was before I had a bike and watched the lucky ones ride by on the footpaths, maneuver around pot holes etc for the next three weeks.
Needless to say, I now have a bike

And the shaking sucks no matter what you're using,

Is is a rolling sensation, horizontal or vertical?

MD
22nd July 2013, 12:17
DO NOT run for the stairway in a multistorey building.

This is the big worry for me being on a 13th floor of 16. You can't jump out a window. Can't take a lift and sure as hell don't trust stairwells anymore after what happened in Chch. Our building had the wrong design stairs (no allowance to flex/slide in a shake) so the last 8 -10 months have been undergoing strengthening and floor by floor creating an expansion gap on each stair landing. The test will be will this work. Or maybe all they have achieved is weaken the overall building structure.

Well we got a day off work. One day not being in that shakey building

Mental Trousers
22nd July 2013, 12:18
Nah.The tv was just on. I left the partment with a friend, was about to get in the left when it started banging around like fuck on its rails. I realized what was happeneing then it kept gaining intensity. Had to hang on tight up here not to fall over. Sent ourselves down the stairs to get out of the place and went to the supermarket. Was a real mess there. Came home to this!

That's some spectacular timing. Fuck being in that lift when the quake hit.

Crasherfromwayback
22nd July 2013, 12:23
That's some spectacular timing. Fuck being in that lift when the quake hit.

Fuck yeah it was fair banging around. The skids in me gruts would've been even worse had I got in it.

Maha
22nd July 2013, 12:51
:killingme:killingme.Had a chuckle when watching the footage on the news,one chick dives under the table the other runs about like a mad hen then heads out the door,overweight or not she was never going to outrun the quake.

I have got to add Mike, that after the Christchurch earthquakes, rumour was rife that in the event of a sizable shake, vending machines have a tendency to spill their bounty. Maybe ‘running to the door lady’ had got wind of this and was heading out for a free Moro and Coke?

Brian d marge
22nd July 2013, 12:55
Earthquake prep

I know this sounds funny , and they may be a bit fruit loopy , but pop over to You tube and have a look at those "dooms day preppers "

and their "bug out bags"

once you stop laughing or worrying that these nuts are actually out there , there are some good Ideas if you need to go quickly

Another thing

A helmet , we have bicycle helmets as they are used everyday and are easy to get to

food and water for three days , ( ours , we went for Italian coffee and spam , and some nice food incl dried milk as I need coffee and NEED milk in coffee, disaster or no disaster!)

Water is 3 litres per person per day , for a family of four ( ours) its 36 litres + the 90 litres of homebrew ...

Home brew , use the plastic bottles as the glass while tasting better , breaks ,,,, not good if you need a beer in an emergency

A small pack with the essentials ( see bug out bag) but one, if you were at work and had to walk you have everything , phone , drink , ( as has been said ) walking shoes uzi 9mm with hollow point rounds .... beer ( well u might as well have a beer on the long walk home )

Finally camping gear , tried and tested ... ours is by the front door and if we had to leave the house , we would be very comfortable thank you,,,,,,

oh and by a bicycle as , gasoline prices go through the roof and the que will be very long ........

Stephen

ps , duck, cover , wait and go to the assembley point.... pre arranged , skype will work on a 3g network , phone lines and txt will overload ( happened here in Japan, the internet rerouted it self but the phone system collapsed )
Modern building are fine in earthquakes , I feel very safe in ours , its a great comfort ,

HenryDorsetCase
22nd July 2013, 13:02
This is the big worry for me being on a 13th floor of 16. You can't jump out a window. Can't take a lift and sure as hell don't trust stairwells anymore after what happened in Chch. Our building had the wrong design stairs (no allowance to flex/slide in a shake) so the last 8 -10 months have been undergoing strengthening and floor by floor creating an expansion gap on each stair landing. The test will be will this work. Or maybe all they have achieved is weaken the overall building structure.

Well we got a day off work. One day not being in that shakey building

Climbing rope, harness, carabiner. You would need a minimum of 200m I guess if you were belaying people out of the building. No fatties! Or throw them down then jump on them.

awa355
22nd July 2013, 13:18
make sure you have some water. fill your pots if you have nothing else. keep your torches handy. Dress warm and wear shoes you can walk ten k in. Have your shit ready to go. No, not joking.


Walk !!??? Whats that??:weep: Seriously tho, if stocking up on food also have dog/cat buiscuts as well. The kids will be more concerned about their pets than stuff which adults are dealing with.

F5 Dave
22nd July 2013, 14:48
Walk !!??? Whats that??:weep: Seriously tho, if stocking up on food also have dog/cat buiscuts as well. . . .
Hooo - MadMax cuisine for the hard survivalist. Jellymeat from the can with a spoon. Raw dude.:cool:

Drew
22nd July 2013, 14:56
Hooo - MadMax cuisine for the hard survivalist. Jellymeat from the can with a spoon. Raw dude.:cool:

Twice in as many weeks I'v had a laugh at a post of yours Dave.

Are you lending out your login?

avgas
22nd July 2013, 14:57
Ko'ed my SR and my fuggin TV!!!
Take a Nurofen and get back to your Michael Bubbles ya nancy ;)

pzkpfw
22nd July 2013, 17:55
Climbing rope, harness, carabiner. You would need a minimum of 200m I guess if you were belaying people out of the building. No fatties! Or throw them down then jump on them.

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granstar
22nd July 2013, 18:28
Yeah real serious earthquake, streaming news banner on telly last night yes how rude, splashed right across the subtitles of the movie we were watching.:Pokey:

Last earthquake I felt in Southland was having a pee in toilet at a pub, just thought i'd had one too many :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Nervous time huh, a second one could hit, be ready.
Maybe the jolt shocked sense to those frequenting that flash Beehive building to realise the shit ChCh have been through and still suffering and wanting their lives sorted ... maybe not :not:

Take care peeps. :yes:

Yow Ling
22nd July 2013, 18:55
Consider it fair warning.

Very good advice !

Dont worry about the tv Pete, everybody gets a new one from eqc, soon the footpaths will be lined with fucked tvs

Grumph
22nd July 2013, 20:03
Very good advice !

Dont worry about the tv Pete, everybody gets a new one from eqc, soon the footpaths will be lined with fucked tvs

Depends on his contents insurance and what the excess is. As far as i know they've bumped the excess for EQC claims up to $5000 which is one way to cut the number of claims.....and save money.

Naki Rat
22nd July 2013, 21:40
Earthquake prep

I know this sounds funny , and they may be a bit fruit loopy , but pop over to You tube and have a look at those "dooms day preppers "

and their "bug out bags"

once you stop laughing or worrying that these nuts are actually out there , there are some good Ideas if you need to go quickly

...................... ,

Along the doomsday scenario idea an interesting read is "One Second After (http://www.bookdepository.com/One-Second-After-Dr-William-Forstchen/9780765356864)" by Dr William R Forstchen. A sort of diary of the living challenges and social meltdown following an electromagnetic pulse event. Not the best writing style but a real wakeup call regarding the realities of losing the use of what are considered by most to be the necessities of modern life.

T.W.R
22nd July 2013, 21:49
Along the doomsday scenario idea an interesting read is "One Second After (http://www.bookdepository.com/One-Second-After-Dr-William-Forstchen/9780765356864)" by Dr William R Forstchen. A sort of diary of the living challenges and social meltdown following an electromagnetic pulse event. Not the best writing style but a real wakeup call regarding the realities of losing the use of what are considered by most to be the necessities of modern life.


:lol: Bit like these guys believing the chch earthquake was caused by HAARP

http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Funcensored.co.nz%2F2011%2F03%2F04 %2Fwas-the-christchurch-earthquake-a-terrible-natural-disaster-or-was-it-a-terrible-man-made-disaster%2F&ei=Kv_sUYy3OYryiAfDoYHwDw&usg=AFQjCNH2m_UbqXvMn51AP4YV3Xickf0kZA&bvm=bv.49478099,d.aGc&cad=rja

blackdog
22nd July 2013, 21:55
:lol: Bit like these guys believing the chch earthquake was caused by HAARP

http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Funcensored.co.nz%2F2011%2F03%2F04 %2Fwas-the-christchurch-earthquake-a-terrible-natural-disaster-or-was-it-a-terrible-man-made-disaster%2F&ei=Kv_sUYy3OYryiAfDoYHwDw&usg=AFQjCNH2m_UbqXvMn51AP4YV3Xickf0kZA&bvm=bv.49478099,d.aGc&cad=rja

Do you know what you have just started? Scissorhands and Scuba Steve now have fodder for months!

T.W.R
22nd July 2013, 21:58
Do you know what you have just started? Scissorhands and Scuba Steve now have fodder for months!

:rolleyes: easy entertainment :lol:

Naki Rat
22nd July 2013, 21:59
:lol: Bit like these guys believing the chch earthquake was caused by HAARP

http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Funcensored.co.nz%2F2011%2F03%2F04 %2Fwas-the-christchurch-earthquake-a-terrible-natural-disaster-or-was-it-a-terrible-man-made-disaster%2F&ei=Kv_sUYy3OYryiAfDoYHwDw&usg=AFQjCNH2m_UbqXvMn51AP4YV3Xickf0kZA&bvm=bv.49478099,d.aGc&cad=rja
HAARP's a new one on me. Another one dreamt up by some retarded conspiracy theorist I guess :rolleyes:

The EMP thing is similar to the big solar discharges that are capable of frying everything electronic from cellphones and appliances to aircraft control systems. They can also be caused by nuclear weapons which is what the book is based on. Living without most of our current technology is like being put back 150 years but without the lifeskills folk had back then. Good way of severely crippling an enemy state!

eelracing
22nd July 2013, 22:02
Ko'ed my SR!!!

The RM did it!!!

Crasherfromwayback
22nd July 2013, 22:03
The RM did it!!!

lol. The yellow curse eh! Funnily enough...the RM didn't fall over...

Crasherfromwayback
22nd July 2013, 22:11
More concerning than the damage, is the fact there is a motorcycle in your lounge room.
Where can I find a woman that will allow me to do this?

Lol. There's actually two in there but only the SR fell over. I'm currently single. But I had a GF at the time of purchase...and I've always kept vintage race bikes in my lounge. If the GF at the time was not gonna have it...she would've been an ex anyway. And any potential new GF needs to understand this. Rare vintage race bikes have as much right to live in the lounge as they do!:headbang:

eelracing
22nd July 2013, 22:14
lol. The yellow curse eh! Funnily enough...the RM didn't fall over...

She's a keeper.

BMWST?
22nd July 2013, 22:44
Made me think of the "Green Parrot bar/resturant" up there in Wellington,used to be one of the all time great feeds when one had had a few.

its still there,and you still get a plate of bread and butter to start

BMWST?
22nd July 2013, 22:45
Lol. There's actually two in there but only the SR fell over. I'm currently single. But I had a GF at the time of purchase...and I've always kept vintage race bikes in my lounge. If the GF at the time was not gonna have it...she would've been an ex anyway. And any potential new GF needs to understand this. Rare vintage race bikes have as much right to live in the lounge as they do!:headbang:

the tv o bough the other day has a hole att he rear of the base a short plastic strap and two screws to tie the base to the furniture it sits on...be better than nothing/Maybe some big zip ties for the kwaka to the stand?

blackdog
22nd July 2013, 22:49
the tv o bough the other day has a hole att he rear?

Autocorrect, where are you when I need you?

Oakie
22nd July 2013, 22:49
Oh, Wellingtonians and those in the general area ... should you get an e-mail called the 'Triangle of Life' about how to survive an earthquake ... please ignore it ... do not pass it on to your friends ... delete the fecker! It's a load of bullshit and has been discredited ... but it keeps on popping up.

BMWST?
22nd July 2013, 23:00
The only person to get out of CTV building was the one that ran outside, running worked for her.
That said I am still with duck, cover and hold the fuck on.

A bit hard to duck and cover in this quake as I was in the shower during this one, all that glass, no cover (totally), and slippery floor, all I could do was wedge myself in the corner of the solid walls. Still glad I resisted the Mrs idea of going into Welly for our anniversary dinner.


dont forget the ctv building survived the first earthequake just fine...they should never have been allowed to go back.Most reinforced concrete building will survive a decent earthquake.Most will be good onl for demolition.Keep out of stairwells in multistorey buildings as the satirs themseleves will probably part company with the floors,bu t the structure of the stairwells themseleves is very strong ussually.

Crasherfromwayback
22nd July 2013, 23:06
the tv o bough the other day has a hole att he rear of the base a short plastic strap and two screws to tie the base to the furniture it sits on...be better than nothing/Maybe some big zip ties for the kwaka to the stand?

When I picked them both up last night, I duct taped the TV's base to the cabinet and funnily enough...you guessed it...zip tied the SR to it's stand. Cheers!:headbang:

T.W.R
22nd July 2013, 23:13
HAARP's a new one on me. Another one dreamt up by some retarded conspiracy theorist I guess :rolleyes:

The EMP thing is similar to the big solar discharges that are capable of frying everything electronic from cellphones and appliances to aircraft control systems. They can also be caused by nuclear weapons which is what the book is based on. Living without most of our current technology is like being put back 150 years but without the lifeskills folk had back then. Good way of severely crippling an enemy state!

:niceone: HAARP is a fabled US device that is supposed to produce a EMP but the yanks are just as scared of another conspiracy theory of a Korean battleship that is supposed to have a similar system :lol:

When the big displays of the southern lights were happening back in the nineties there was plenty of talk and warnings about EMP from solar discharge.

Though the moon is just on its full at present so it could have had a contributing factor in things :scratch:

One thing with this series of shake-ups is be thankful the epicentres were off shore

Brian d marge
22nd July 2013, 23:30
We should have a sticky on how to prepare and deal with an earthquake ( also what happens AFTER , stress etc )

Stephen

F5 Dave
23rd July 2013, 10:07
. . .. If the GF at the time was not gonna have it...she would've been an ex anyway. And any potential new GF needs to understand this. . . .
When my missus moved down from Auckland into the spare room (before she was me missus) she was sharing it with an RS so she has never argued that she didn't know what she was getting into. Although she did eventually drape a throw over it.

Crasherfromwayback
23rd July 2013, 10:08
When my missus moved down from Auckland into the spare room (before she was me missus) she was sharing it with an RS so she has never argued that she didn't know what she was getting into. Although she did eventually drape a throw over it.

That's the story!

Drew
23rd July 2013, 10:10
When my missus moved down from Auckland into the spare room (before she was me missus) she was sharing it with an RS so she has never argued that she didn't know what she was getting into. Although she did eventually drape a throw over it.A proper RS?

Chucking a cover over it should have been a deal breaker, but it should have been in the lounge to begin with, so I guess it balances out.

240
23rd July 2013, 18:37
Something else which is REAL inportant, but no one seems to mention it is CASH.
My step son was in Chch when the Feb quake hit them.
He had no cell coverage and there was no power at the local stores for 2 days so no eft pos only cash was allowed.
We take it for granted that our cards,cell phones etc work but tell that to your local indian dairy owner when there are cues for food!!!

98tls
23rd July 2013, 19:55
Consider it fair warning.

I would have thought Christchurch was but no...

Oakie
23rd July 2013, 20:31
Something else which is REAL inportant, but no one seems to mention it is CASH.
My step son was in Chch when the Feb quake hit them.
He had no cell coverage and there was no power at the local stores for 2 days so no eft pos only cash was allowed.
We take it for granted that our cards,cell phones etc work but tell that to your local indian dairy owner when there are cues for food!!!

Don't tell anyone but I have $300 cash in my sock draw. It's actually my bike tyre / bike repair /fines fund and it increases by $20 a week but it doubles as our emergency cash fund in case we have to run. Oh yeah ... and I have our emergency 'get the hell out of here' bag by the front door. It got all the normal emergency stuff and while I'll just dump whatever food I can quickly throw into it as we run by the pantry ... I also have a block of this in the bottom http://survivorind.com/3600.html A day and a half worth of survival level nutrition. It's the stuff they put in lifeboats. Cost me about $17 I think.

pete376403
23rd July 2013, 20:53
We should have a sticky on how to prepare and deal with an earthquake ( also what happens AFTER , stress etc )

Stephen
My wife does childcare for PORSE and one of the things we had to do (to be allowed to do the childcare) was secure anything that might fall down and hurt the nippers. While I considered it (at thetime) as wasted effort, absolutley nothing fell down during the quakes. A bit of wire, a few screws and a knob of bluetack make a lot of difference. When I saw on the news about the liquor store owner moaning that a $4000 bottle of brandy got smashed when a cabinet fell down - would have taken less than 10 minutes to secure that cabinet to the wall

Oakie
23rd July 2013, 21:14
My wife does childcare for PORSE and one of the things we had to do (to be allowed to do the childcare) was secure anything that might fall down and hurt the nippers. While I considered it (at thetime) as wasted effort, absolutley nothing fell down during the quakes. A bit of wire, a few screws and a knob of bluetack make a lot of difference.

Yeah, I'd earthquake-safed our house about 6 months prior to the Sept 2010 event and bloody glad I did. I was shocked at how much the brackets that I'd secured our wall unit with had twisted when I checked them after the big February shake.

Brian d marge
23rd July 2013, 21:15
Something else which is REAL inportant, but no one seems to mention it is CASH.
My step son was in Chch when the Feb quake hit them.
He had no cell coverage and there was no power at the local stores for 2 days so no eft pos only cash was allowed.
We take it for granted that our cards,cell phones etc work but tell that to your local indian dairy owner when there are cues for food!!!

Thats what I was trying to point out , but steering people towards those nutty urban survivalist videos

After you get past the nut jobs in camo thinking ww3 is coming, there are some good ideas the video links I provided, while completely over the top also mentioned "having $1000" in various types of notes and coins

Also , the it doesnt just sit there , u use it and replace it , so buy a new tyre , have 200 left over , its better than nowt

Same with food and water

Just looked at mine its a biggish bum bag ,( ooeeerr titter ye not missus) ..has fire making. shelter making 10 litres of water and food and food preperation , for one , but could , at a stretch , do for the family .

enough for 72 hours or at a stretch 3 days , ( water is kept in a collapsable water carrier bag and I have a 10 litre platapus bladder in the bum bag )

that is the grab and run bag

The long term one is the camping gear ,,,,

Finally , what astounds me is , that ( almost ) every year NZ , down south has these "record" snow/flood /winds , OMG the biggest ,in ,,,years ,
Every year you hear these stories of , """we have been without power ,,,and .... and "

Call me stupid and/or thinking out of the square , here but I would have a small portable generator ....of some sorts ( using a fuel that was commonly used , gasoline in my case )

Dibb dibb dob dob dob , be prepared sometime the gold card just doent cut it !

Stephen

Brian d marge
23rd July 2013, 21:22
My wife does childcare for PORSE and one of the things we had to do (to be allowed to do the childcare) was secure anything that might fall down and hurt the nippers. While I considered it (at thetime) as wasted effort, absolutley nothing fell down during the quakes. A bit of wire, a few screws and a knob of bluetack make a lot of difference. When I saw on the news about the liquor store owner moaning that a $4000 bottle of brandy got smashed when a cabinet fell down - would have taken less than 10 minutes to secure that cabinet to the wall

We had a small shake a few years back , had just built a new house to the latest codes ( as req) ONE door is out of alignment by about a mm or 2 , the new houses perform really well .....

I should do the cupboard and the fish tank , but if the cupboard fell , as it did when the bastard kids decided to climb it ..it just hits the sink , so actually makes a nice safe area , the fish ,,,,, how much meat on a three year old gold fish? have some spuds in the garden,,,,,,,just a thought

Stephen

Oakie
23rd July 2013, 21:49
enough for 72 hours or at a stretch 3 days ,

Dude!

10 chars

Naki Rat
23rd July 2013, 22:06
:niceone: HAARP is a fabled US device that is supposed to produce a EMP but the yanks are just as scared of another conspiracy theory of a Korean battleship that is supposed to have a similar system :lol:

When the big displays of the southern lights were happening back in the nineties there was plenty of talk and warnings about EMP from solar discharge.

Though the moon is just on its full at present so it could have had a contributing factor in things :scratch:

One thing with this series of shake-ups is be thankful the epicentres were off shore

Full moon last night and perigee yesterday morning. Hmmm :scratch:

Oakie
23rd July 2013, 22:41
Full moon last night and perigee yesterday morning. Hmmm :scratch:

Well I guess you're never more than 14 days from a full moon (previous or next) are you.

Oakie
23rd July 2013, 22:49
Oh, for what it's worth, after our September quake when this moon crap was raised I charted the last four years of earthquakes reported in NZ. I finished up with a series of dates with bars indicating the number of quakes on a given day. On top of that I overlaid the full moon dates for that 4 years. There was no spike of quakes around full moons in that four years. There were peaks and flurries through the period they didn't match the full moons. It's a load of bovine excrement.

oldrider
23rd July 2013, 23:17
The moon's always there full or not only counts by how much sun is shining on it reflecting back onto earth FFS!

The alignment and distance from earth of the moon and all the other planets is apparently what makes the difference.

Scientists have no more idea when and where earthquakes are going to happen than Ken Ring does but at least they are all still working on it!

So maybe one of them will get it right one day. :niceone:

Berries
23rd July 2013, 23:21
The moon's always there full or not only counts by how much sun is shining on it reflecting back onto earth FFS!
Ha ha, never thought of it like that but quite obvious really.

(But just planted all of my chili seeds for next season to take account of the full moon tonight anyway)

T.W.R
23rd July 2013, 23:52
(But just planted all of my chili seeds for next season to take account of the full moon tonight anyway)

:shit: that's way early, hope their going to be somewhere warm whilst waiting to strike :niceone: my bhuts, chocolate habs, & orange habs are in flower & the thai supers & gringo killers have fruit :facepalm:

Brian d marge
24th July 2013, 00:16
:shit: that's way early, hope their going to be somewhere warm whilst waiting to strike :niceone: my bhuts, chocolate habs, & orange habs are in flower & the thai supers & gringo killers have fruit :facepalm:

Mad dog 357

been there done that ..love the shit

stephen

Brian d marge
24th July 2013, 00:21
Dude!

10 chars

hey we get shit done , our towns are back up and functioning , only lost power for a few hours ( and the japs were freaking out)

Ok half the pasific ocean glows a bit green when you switch the lights off , but hey at least the ship that was parked on the main street has been moved

Stephen

ps on me travels I saw a sign that said , becareful there has been a tsunami here before , ,,,,37 meters above sea level ...
FK....37 friggn meters.....

Brian d marge
24th July 2013, 00:23
:shit: that's way early, hope their going to be somewhere warm whilst waiting to strike :niceone: my bhuts, chocolate habs, & orange habs are in flower & the thai supers & gringo killers have fruit :facepalm:

medical science , has improved those

Mad dog 357 baby

anything else is stuff you give the kids

Stephen

cc rider
24th July 2013, 01:13
I had to cat sit a friends cat that liked to hunt dust bunnies. That was very nerve wrecking... :crazy: Them bunnies are more afraid of you vaccuming then you are of them :calm:

T.W.R
24th July 2013, 08:41
Mad dog 357

been there done that ..love the shit

stephen


medical science , has improved those

Mad dog 357 baby

anything else is stuff you give the kids

Stephen

:lol: Mad Dog 357 is sauce is made from Bhut Jolokia (Ghost) peppers, I like the peppers for making stir frys & curries ;). 6million scovilles is farkin outrageously hot though:gob: liquid lava! I've got a bottle of Fire Dragon Deadly sauce for special treats :lol:
Got a recipe for a pretty vicious cajun hot sauce for the chocolate habs
Want to get hold of some Naga Viper & Trinidad Scorpion seeds :cool:

Grubber
24th July 2013, 10:12
Made me think of the "Green Parrot bar/resturant" up there in Wellington,used to be one of the all time great feeds when one had had a few.

Still is!
I venture there every time i'm down on a business trip.
Awesome tucker to be fair!

Naki Rat
24th July 2013, 10:56
The moon's always there full or not only counts by how much sun is shining on it reflecting back onto earth FFS!

The alignment and distance from earth of the moon and all the other planets is apparently what makes the difference.

Scientists have no more idea when and where earthquakes are going to happen than Ken Ring does but at least they are all still working on it!

So maybe one of them will get it right one day. :niceone:
:facepalm: The full moon occurs because the sun is 'behind' the earth from the moon's perspective, so all three are in alignment. A similar alignment occurs for a New Moon (e.g. Sun, Moon, Earth aligned). And the gravitational pull of the Moon is maximised at the Perigee when it is at its closest to Earth during its elliptical orbit.

In both cases Earth is affected by the gravitational attraction of both the Sun and Moon in alignment, which is why we have Spring tides, and as the Earth's tectonic plates are essentially floating......

http://www.mesa.edu.au/friends/seashores/images/tides.gif

Berries
24th July 2013, 20:14
:shit: that's way early, hope their going to be somewhere warm whilst waiting to strike :niceone: my bhuts, chocolate habs, & orange habs are in flower & the thai supers & gringo killers have fruit :facepalm:
The season down here isn't that great so I have to get the hot ones going in July so I can get them in the greenhouse as soon as the last frost has gone and give them a chance to ripen. Currently in a heated prop in the spare bedroom. I won't start the annums for a while yet.

Some winter warmth -

T.W.R
24th July 2013, 21:15
The season down here isn't that great so I have to get the hot ones going in July so I can get them in the greenhouse as soon as the last frost has gone and give them a chance to ripen. Currently in a heated prop in the spare bedroom. I won't start the annums for a while yet.

Some winter warmth -

Nice :drool: wish my bhuts got to that size :weep: last season was shocking :oi-grr: damn aphids gave them hell

I just grow by simple methods :rolleyes: haven't got space for a dedicated propagation room

Oakie
24th July 2013, 21:52
Nice :drool: wish my bhuts got to that size

"Does my bhut look big in this?"

T.W.R
24th July 2013, 23:44
"Does my bhut look big in this?"

:lol: I like big bhuts & cannot lie :banana:

Nah seriously these things are vicious, jab one in the wrong place and you'll be faster than a speeding busa!
You know tabasco sauce & cayenne etc well they're around 30000~50000 SHUs, Bhut Jolokia are over 1000000 SHUs
Assam in Northern India where they come from they make elephant repellent with them :eek:
one of the last genuinely untampered super hot peppers

Check the link out it'll show you what happens when you hook into one......Farkin hilarious
http://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?feature=c4-overview&type=0&video_ids=ZaEjcY30wgY%2CCOOJ4dyCndw%2CNR7jvw9W-TQ%2CtEuaSmtkhTQ%2Ccy-KZ1XuxpY%2CP_rQ4oRkY_4%2CELtTb4fA_FQ%2CBBM3ux4rAWE %2CE7TZIFb72aY%2CjVUG4EA3dfU%2CFW4lqbsGqXc&title=Popular+uploads&more_url=

Actually it'd be interesting to see who all are into peppers, maybe a growers group :rolleyes:

Move the digression away from the quake thread...Mods?

Berries
24th July 2013, 23:55
Move the digression away from the quake thread...Mods?
Might not be needed. My last sauce was a good 5.8.

T.W.R
25th July 2013, 00:09
Might not be needed. My last sauce was a good 5.8.

:lol: bet it's a good brew, and those pickled Jalepenos look interesting too :drool: . Never had a problem with the follow-on effect from the hot stuff though, know a few that literally has it rip through them though :killingme

I use a bit of this stuff
Fire Dragon Chillies Deadly sauce extreme rating ;) from up in the Hokianga

Brian d marge
25th July 2013, 02:28
:lol: I like big bhuts & cannot lie :banana:

Nah seriously these things are vicious, jab one in the wrong place and you'll be faster than a speeding busa!
You know tabasco sauce & cayenne etc well they're around 30000~50000 SHUs, Bhut Jolokia are over 1000000 SHUs
Assam in Northern India where they come from they make elephant repellent with them :eek:
one of the last genuinely untampered super hot peppers

Check the link out it'll show you what happens when you hook into one......Farkin hilarious
http://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?feature=c4-overview&type=0&video_ids=ZaEjcY30wgY%2CCOOJ4dyCndw%2CNR7jvw9W-TQ%2CtEuaSmtkhTQ%2Ccy-KZ1XuxpY%2CP_rQ4oRkY_4%2CELtTb4fA_FQ%2CBBM3ux4rAWE %2CE7TZIFb72aY%2CjVUG4EA3dfU%2CFW4lqbsGqXc&title=Popular+uploads&more_url=

Actually it'd be interesting to see who all are into peppers, maybe a growers group :rolleyes:

Move the digression away from the quake thread...Mods?

no its the same

I used 1/4 teaspoon in a bowl of chilli con carne .. ...I did finish the bowl ...then the fun began

2 litres of ice cream later , every single milk related product I could lay my hands on

then I touched my eye ...and found out I was sweating chilli sauce

so I lay down , that hurt too much , to i decided to walk around until the pain stopped , and I do mean pain

it came in wave slowly building and easing off ......at some point i REALLY needed a pee

Paint your dick in paint stripper, then pour liquid fire down the wee hole in the top and you may come close to the pain that engulfed me

all was well ...after an hour or so , it was like being on lsd at one point ...I fell asleep

The next morning I had a crap ..........

the screams were heard by the neighbours ,,,,,,,,ring of fire ,,,,ring of molten fukin lava

Mad dog 357

Strangely I only have half a bottle left now ,,,,its ,,um addictive

Stephen

oldrider
25th July 2013, 06:35
So this is a chilli shake thread now .... :wings:

T.W.R
25th July 2013, 09:39
then I touched my eye ...and found out I was sweating chilli sauce

so I lay down , that hurt too much , to i decided to walk around until the pain stopped , and I do mean pain

it came in wave slowly building and easing off ......

Jalepeno eye :yes:

lol done the same cutting up Gringo Killers.....was real careful too then about 2hrs later even after having washed hands a couple of times did the old rub the eye trick......:pinch: Fark me the pain was intense...could open my eyes for ages..got heaps of sympathy from the ex too...best comedy act she'd seen for ages...:argh:

unstuck
25th July 2013, 10:00
Must be the same stuff they use in pepper spray, that stuff hurts like a mofo.:baby:

T.W.R
25th July 2013, 12:12
Must be the same stuff they use in pepper spray, that stuff hurts like a mofo.:baby:

Pepper spray is a diluted Capsaicin (an alkaloid & the active principle in peppers that makes them hot) It measures in at about 3.5 million SHUs (scoville heat units), pure Casaicin measures 16 million SHUs. There are peppers out there being grown that measure in @ 1.5 million :eek: but they're all based on Bhut Jolokia peppers just being genetically fiddled with.
Capsaicin retains it's original heat potency level whether it's been cooked, frozen, or aged over time; and has no odour or flavour.

BuzzardNZ
25th July 2013, 12:23
Pepper spray is a diluted Capsaicin (an alkaloid & the active principle in peppers that makes them hot) It measures in at about 3.5 million SHUs (scoville heat units), pure Casaicin measures 16 million SHUs. There are peppers out there being grown that measure in @ 1.5 million :eek: but they're all based on Bhut Jolokia peppers just being genetically fiddled with.
Capsaicin retains it's original heat potency level whether it's been cooked, frozen, or aged over time; and has no odour or flavour.

How many scovilles was the 'Bastard' Earthquake ? :sweatdrop

Crasherfromwayback
25th July 2013, 12:37
How many scovilles was the 'Bastard' Earthquake ? :sweatdrop

Think we've gone from earthquake to buttquake!

T.W.R
25th July 2013, 16:26
How many scovilles was the 'Bastard' Earthquake ? :sweatdrop

<_< SHUs for measuring that rumble would be F/A

But on a T.V toss-o-meter probably somewhere around a 3 as Pete's T.V just fell over ;) , Sept 4th however managed to toss a 40" wide screen a clear 5ft into the middle of our lounge :lol: landed face down & didn't break the f@#ker either :blink:

Just be thankful this last shake was located where it was :yes: if it'd be land based yous would have really known what a good shake-up is all about ;)

unstuck
25th July 2013, 16:30
Pepper spray is a diluted Capsaicin (an alkaloid & the active principle in peppers that makes them hot) It measures in at about 3.5 million SHUs (scoville heat units), pure Casaicin measures 16 million SHUs. There are peppers out there being grown that measure in @ 1.5 million :eek: but they're all based on Bhut Jolokia peppers just being genetically fiddled with.
Capsaicin retains it's original heat potency level whether it's been cooked, frozen, or aged over time; and has no odour or flavour.

Diluted, fuck me. I would hate to get hit in the eyes with the proper hot stuff then. Effective though, that stuff the coppers give ya, takes the fight right out of you.:yes:

T.W.R
25th July 2013, 16:42
Diluted, fuck me. I would hate to get hit in the eyes with the proper hot stuff then. Effective though, that stuff the coppers give ya, takes the fight right out of you.:yes:

The guys that work with pure capsaicin...chemical engineers etc have to wear full bio suits & respirators :crazy:
3.5 mil is the measurement of tactical grade pepper spray not mace etc that is lower in strength.

I like the fact that the locals where Bhuts come from make Elephant repellent with them :lol: to stop rogue bulls rampaging though their villages :crazy:

Brian d marge
25th July 2013, 20:14
Diluted, fuck me. I would hate to get hit in the eyes with the proper hot stuff then. Effective though, that stuff the coppers give ya, takes the fight right out of you.:yes:
wimps
come to dinner at my house , Ill make a pizza that make the cops pepper spray look like a walk in the park

the fkers could spray litres of the crap tya , and all you would be thinking would be ...needs more salt

Stephen----
PS...how the fuc do the old bill have a tug on the old fella, I mean ya been working with pepper spray all day ......and when ya get home all ya want to do is .......fk that must hurt

Berries
25th July 2013, 23:55
PS...how the fuc do the old bill have a tug on the old fella, I mean ya been working with pepper spray all day ......
Why do you think they employ Police dogs?

Brian d marge
26th July 2013, 03:16
Why do you think they employ Police dogs?

hahahahaaaaa

as long as the spray doesnt slip on the dick alls well

Stephen

oldrider
28th July 2013, 15:58
Why do you think they employ Police dogs?

Cos it's bring your own licker! :bleh:

Crasherfromwayback
16th August 2013, 15:38
Bum. That one knocked over all of my speakers and my champagne bottle collection....

Maha
16th August 2013, 15:40
Bum. That one knocked over all of my speakers and my champagne bottle collection....

Really? another one?...
Oh yeah 6.2...http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10913399

bogan
16th August 2013, 15:44
Yeh felt like a bigger one up in palmy too, nothing fell over here but could hear a few car alarms going off.

imdying
16th August 2013, 15:45
Bum. That one knocked over all of my speakers and my champagne bottle collection....That is a shame. If only you'd been given fair warning.

yod
16th August 2013, 16:03
felt three so far here this arvo - had to dash outside and make sure the bird hadn't fallen over!! :shit:

nudemetalz
16th August 2013, 16:07
The shop stuff okay, Crasher?

Crasherfromwayback
16th August 2013, 16:08
That is a shame. If only you'd been given fair warning.

lol. At least I sorted the TV and the SR out this time! Getting there slowly.

Crasherfromwayback
16th August 2013, 16:10
Yeh felt like a bigger one up in palmy too, nothing fell over here but could hear a few car alarms going off.


The shop stuff okay, Crasher?

Yeah shop is ok mate. Was a nasty one though eh. Not cool.

imdying
16th August 2013, 16:15
lol. At least I sorted the TV and the SR out this time! Getting there slowly.I would consider making water your main priority. If it all really goes pear shaped, and not this miles from you rubbish, you won't regret it.

Crasherfromwayback
16th August 2013, 16:20
I would consider making water your main priority. If it all really goes pear shaped, and not this miles from you rubbish, you won't regret it.

Yeah got that sorted. My main concern if it's big enough though...is going down with the building.

unstuck
16th August 2013, 16:20
Yeah shop is ok mate. Was a nasty one though eh. Not cool.

I can look after a DR650 for you, if you are worried it may get damaged.:devil2:

Bren
16th August 2013, 16:22
Bloody left Christchurch because of the quakes...now I have to put up with the welly ones...ya jus cant bloody win it seems....

Interesting though watchin trees dance with no wind blowin them....sorta ruined my afternoon coffee!

imdying
16th August 2013, 16:31
Yeah got that sorted. My main concern if it's big enough though...is going down with the building.I wouldn't worry much. The earthquake here was pretty close, very shallow, and the only things that fell down were old brick buildings, and two office buildings built by retards.

imdying
16th August 2013, 16:32
Bloody left Christchurch because of the quakes...now I have to put up with the welly ones...ya jus cant bloody win it seems....What do you expect you moron. Moving from one place in the ring of fire to another, to escape earthquakes... mum drop you on your head when you were a baby?

Crasherfromwayback
16th August 2013, 16:32
I can look after a DR650 for you, if you are worried it may get damaged.:devil2:

Good Cunt! I've got my eye on one myself mate...case I need to get out of town asap.

Crasherfromwayback
16th August 2013, 16:33
I wouldn't worry much. The earthquake here was pretty close, very shallow, and the only things that fell down were old brick buildings, and two office buildings built by retards.

That's the prob mate. I'm on the 5th floor of an old red brick apartment building...it wobbles like fuck up there!

unstuck
16th August 2013, 16:36
That's the prob mate. I'm on the 5th floor of an old red brick apartment building...it wobbles like fuck up there!

Fuck that.:eek:

kevfromcoro
16th August 2013, 16:42
shit is it that bad??
iam in ozz,, and getting bits and pieces on the news......

Bren
16th August 2013, 16:44
What do you expect you moron. Moving from one place in the ring of fire to another, to escape earthquakes... mum drop you on your head when you were a baby?

Oi, I dont like yer tone!!!!

Banditbandit
16th August 2013, 16:59
BUGGA - only just caught up on today's news .. I hope everyone's fine in the south of the North Island ... Going home and will catch up on the news at 6pm (or not as the case may be) ...

HOpe you all survive the weekend ..

imdying
16th August 2013, 17:00
That's the prob mate. I'm on the 5th floor of an old red brick apartment building...it wobbles like fuck up there!Yeah, I would actually move, given the evidence.


Oi, I dont like yer tone!!!!I don't like that there's a possibility you might breed, but we can still be friends.

Crasherfromwayback
16th August 2013, 17:10
Yeah, I would actually move, given the evidence.

.

I hear ya. Be near impossible to sell at the mo though...so a little stuck really.

imdying
16th August 2013, 17:18
Yeah, I hear ya too.

I would like to reiterate just how much of a raping brick buildings took though. There's a good video of one, it basically just falls down instantly. No warning, no nothing, as soon as the quake started, the entire thing fell down in seconds.

MD
16th August 2013, 17:21
I was on a 13th floor on Lambton Quay and watched out the window as the building close behind ours moved back and forth passed the window! I think our building moved northward as theirs was going south, then we swap directions and pass each other again. Holy shit that was scary to watch, metres of swaying going on. As the quake intensified and I watched this synchronised building swaying I did have that dreaded thought, just how much lean can the building handle before reaching tipping point.

Been through many shakes here at work but that was one of the worse. Can't remember any throwing stuff around on our floor before like today. Head high filing cabinet next to me was knocked for a six. I think the noise of stuff like that scares people even more.

Soothing whiskey when I got home was a treat.

Going to be some people struggling to return to their work buildings next week. Farewelled a customer earlier today who was off to live in Jamaica. We joked she wont miss the Wgtn weather. I doubt it's the weather she will be pleased to leave behind now.

imdying
16th August 2013, 17:24
just how much lean can the building handle before reaching tipping pointTake heart, recent events suggest arseloads.

Bren
16th August 2013, 17:38
I don't like that there's a possibility you might breed, but we can still be friends.

Ya rude cunt you!
:2guns:
i am friends with whoever dont wanna be my enemy!

BMWST?
16th August 2013, 17:41
I wouldn't worry much. The earthquake here was pretty close, very shallow, and the only things that fell down were old brick buildings, and two office buildings built by retards.

one of which was severley damaged previously and should not have been occupied imho.It had been red stickered

BMWST?
16th August 2013, 17:44
one of which was severley damaged previously and should not have been occupied imho.It had been red stickered

some of the worst damage will occur when swaying buildings strike each other.OLD brick buildings have no integrity,there are a lot of "brick" buildings in wellington that have reinforced concrete skeletons

Kickaha
16th August 2013, 17:49
one of which was severley damaged previously and should not have been occupied imho.It had been red stickered

Which one? because if a building is red stickered you aren't allowed to use it at all

mossy1200
16th August 2013, 17:50
I was riding along and didn't realise we had a shock. Wondered why the traffic was heavy and nobody wanted to park in the tunnel or under the overpasses. Felt the 6.3 but nothing moved much at home.

BoristheBiter
16th August 2013, 17:54
Bloody left Christchurch because of the quakes...now I have to put up with the welly ones...ya jus cant bloody win it seems....

Interesting though watchin trees dance with no wind blowin them....sorta ruined my afternoon coffee!

Hmm.......... earthquakes in CHCH, Bren moves to wellington, quakes stop in CHCH and start in wellywood.
Coincidence? I don't know but for gods sake don't move any further north.

mossy1200
16th August 2013, 17:56
Hmm.......... earthquakes in CHCH, Bren moves to wellington, quakes stop in CHCH and start in wellywood.
Coincidence? I don't know but for gods sake don't move any further north.

Send Bren overseas would be the best bet. Take one for the team Bren go to Iran for a while.

Mom
16th August 2013, 17:58
Send Bren overseas would be the best bet. Take one for the team Bren go to Iran for a while.

Don't send him back up here...

Bren the "force" Much Respect.

Paul in NZ
16th August 2013, 18:23
Oh - that was a good un allrighty....

You kinda start off being a bit cavilair about the whole thing but the grin fades as you realise it aint stoppin and its getting worse... arsebiscuit.... Dived under the desk so fast I got carpet burn!!!! Our building is actually in two bits with a siesmic 'joint' between them. Slightly alarming to watch the two parts going in different directions.

Anyway - bugged out fast. Piled into daves car and got out before the traffic clogged it. Stayed in touch via cell with customers/staff. All good but bugger me that was scary...

Boss told us to bug out asap

Bren
16th August 2013, 19:22
Don't send him back up here...

Bren the "force" Much Respect.

Bwahhhh....ya dont want me no more?...i feel rejected now (sobs)

PMSL

Mom
16th August 2013, 20:29
PMSL

Yepper, Depends FTW!

pzkpfw
16th August 2013, 20:29
First time I've ever bothered to take action. After a while, I got under my desk. Biggest shake I've felt in my 40 odd years.

Funnily enough the plasterers were downstairs in my building, just this morning, scraping the walls preparing to fix the damage from 4 weeks ago.

skippa1
16th August 2013, 20:36
Wasn't too bad here either

BMWST?
16th August 2013, 21:05
Which one? because if a building is red stickered you aren't allowed to use it at all

i beleive the ctv building was red or at least yellow stickered but was cleared later

sorry i am wrong it was green stickered but none of the inspectors were engineers.A bit sobering really when in 1990 it was recognised that changes made to strengthen the building were also thought to weaken the buildings resistance to an earthquake(NZ herald)

Naki Rat
16th August 2013, 22:29
Wasn't too bad here either

Likewise. I was outside checking lambing sheep in the paddock below the house when things got rockin. Decided that being downhill of our 22,000 litre roofwater tank wasn't wise and moved pronto :shit:

We seem to be feeling the 6+ sized aftershocks up in the Naki. Hang in there Wellingtonions and Top of the Southers!

pete376403
17th August 2013, 00:31
We got quite a ride here in Upper Hutt, with fairly good aftershocks through until about 8:30pm.

Shooed the grandkids under the table for the first one. House was banging and creaking but nothing fell down.

Given up worrying about them - if the planet wants to spit me off, then its going to and thats that.

Dangsta
17th August 2013, 08:44
I was on the second floor of the Michael Fowler Centre when it hit. I was under the table with a really nice Irish woman who was experiencing her first quake at the time. All I could hear was "..rumble..rumble....ohhh Jeeeesus....rumble...Jeeeesus...ohhh Jeeesuss". The thing that got me was when I got out of the building into the CBD, it dawned that nowhere was safe :bye:If a big one hit the W'ton CBD then basically you're fucked. I booked it straight back to Wanga-vegas and luckily beat the traffic. Not cool at all.

Drew
17th August 2013, 09:26
just how much lean can the building handle before reaching tipping point.

Your building is about twenty to thirty meters square. So the top needs to move that far before it is at 'tipping point'. It'll crumble before it gets anywhere near that bro. Stay out of the stair wells, and the toilets, but get as close to the core walls as you can in a big one.

BMWST?
17th August 2013, 10:18
Your building is about twenty to thirty meters square. So the top needs to move that far before it is at 'tipping point'. It'll crumble before it gets anywhere near that bro. Stay out of the stair wells, and the toilets, but get as close to the core walls as you can in a big one.

The core walls are usually around the lifts and toilets so stay near the stairwell but not inside the stairwell cos it's likely the stairs themselves will come adrift


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Drew
17th August 2013, 10:28
The core walls are usually around the lifts and toilets so stay near the stairwell but not inside the stairwell cos it's likely the stairs themselves will come adrift
Isn't that what I said?

BMWST?
17th August 2013, 10:46
Isn't that what I said?

Just clarifying where the core walls will usually be :)


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98tls
17th August 2013, 11:44
Just got off the phone to my 80 year old Aunty up there,she spent all night sitting in a chair worried sick,she lives in a beautiful big old house in Hanson st thats divided into 2,she says the wall down the middle has a big crack in it the lady that owns the other 1/2 was told to get out and has done but Aunty N is to scared to ring her insurance company for fear of being moved which i can understand but jesus its a bit of a worry.Any structual engineers on here with some spare time:laugh:When i was talking to her there was another small shake and you could hear the fear in her voice,really shitty situation for a really lovely old lady.

merv
17th August 2013, 12:34
That's the prob mate. I'm on the 5th floor of an old red brick apartment building...it wobbles like fuck up there!

There was me thinking you were in a more modern building so which one are you in that is 5 stories and brick?

Crasherfromwayback
17th August 2013, 12:36
There was me thinking you were in a more modern building so which one are you in that is 5 stories and brick?

Masion Cabriole Cnr Of Tory St and Courtenay Place Merv.

merv
17th August 2013, 12:42
Masion Cabriole Cnr Of Tory St and Courtenay Place Merv.

Yeah thought you were there so is the tower block of that place an old building that had a makeover then as it always looked reasonably modern?

merv
17th August 2013, 12:48
We were at work and our building luckily is newish, occupied in 2008, so I have confidence in it. It just munts the plaster, ceiling tiles and separators a bit at the earthquake joints and wrinkles the carpet.

At 3pm we were down for a 45 minute group hug about work stuff anyway and funny thing was no one really wanted to talk about work stuff at that time so they just broke out the wine, crackers and cheese and chippy packets early so we had a drinksies session instead. Just don't tell the big boss eh.

Crasherfromwayback
17th August 2013, 12:54
Yeah thought you were there so is the tower block of that place an old building that had a makeover then as it always looked reasonably modern?

Think it's the old Wellington Gas company Building or summat? Whilst from the outside it loooks quite mod etc...when you come up through the guts of it in the service lift (that's how I get me motorsickles in the apartment)...you can see it's all brick. They tell me it's 43 % of modern compliance. I'd feel much safer if that number was more like 80%! The other prob is...it's built on quite soft ground...so makes the shaking worse.

BMWST?
17th August 2013, 13:54
Just got off the phone to my 80 year old Aunty up there,she spent all night sitting in a chair worried sick,she lives in a beautiful big old house in Hanson st thats divided into 2,she says the wall down the middle has a big crack in it the lady that owns the other 1/2 was told to get out and has done but Aunty N is to scared to ring her insurance company for fear of being moved which i can understand but jesus its a bit of a worry.Any structual engineers on here with some spare time:laugh:When i was talking to her there was another small shake and you could hear the fear in her voice,really shitty situation for a really lovely old lady.

the party wall between the units is prolly brick

98tls
17th August 2013, 15:48
the party wall between the units is prolly brick

Dunno mate,its a lovely old house around a 100 years old.

Crasherfromwayback
17th August 2013, 16:09
Dunno mate,its a lovely old house around a 100 years old.

Yeah I used to live in Hanson St. There are some gorgeous old homes up there. Hope she's ok mate.

merv
17th August 2013, 16:52
Well, while I've had no problems so far, calling them bastards in the thread header here you guys got me fired up and I went and bought some large screw in eyelet wall fasteners and screwed them in by my VFR and then applied bungy cords to keep it upright and avoid it being tipped off its centre stand.

The trail bikes are fine tucked against the wall on their side stands and I've got one of them bungy tied back too. Don't want them ending up on the floor like the SR did Pete.

F5 Dave
17th August 2013, 17:10
My Tiger has been stropped to roof since 1st chch quake. Yeah didn't enjoy that one even if not as bad in Hutt. Trying to get on with work with so many aftershocks frayed the nerves and I began to understand in a very small way what the chch guys have had to live with. We got sent home eventually. Few beers and wines helped.

Paul in NZ
17th August 2013, 18:28
Dunno mate,its a lovely old house around a 100 years old.

We are up in Kapiti but have a spare bed room if she wants picking up mate... Shitty thing for an elderly lady sitting there worried...

nudemetalz
17th August 2013, 19:53
That's something I must do. Strop the Guzzi, EX-4 and DR. I'm more worried about stuff falling on them.

F5 Dave
17th August 2013, 20:27
Mate in chch had his Lotus badly damaged by falling stuff.

98tls
17th August 2013, 20:29
We are up in Kapiti but have a spare bed room if she wants picking up mate... Shitty thing for an elderly lady sitting there worried...

Thanks for the offer mate really nice of you but my mothers managed to convince her to go and stay with some friends.Shes all bothered by the predictions of another 6+ within the week etc etc,anyways hopefully someone can have a look at the house early in the week and decide one way or another if she can go back.Again thanks for the offer,a really nice gesture.Tell you what i would have put her on a plane to down here if i could have shes the most amazing cook and a few weeks of her in the kitchen baking i wouldnt turn down.

98tls
17th August 2013, 20:35
Yeah I used to live in Hanson St. There are some gorgeous old homes up there. Hope she's ok mate.

:niceone:Yep its a beautiful old place that over the years shes spent big $ on.Amazing lady who for many years would rise early in the am and walk all the way from Hanson st to way out to some Convent (cant remember xactly where it was) and do the cooking,tough as boots she is and a real sweetie.

ellipsis
17th August 2013, 22:18
Mate in chch had his Lotus badly damaged by falling stuff.

...I lost my poached egg on a bit of toast...I was just about to do the, poke the yoke thing and the world dropped out from under it...I found it in the clean up a few hours later...it ended up six foot away from the table on a seat, still on the toast...

Kickaha
17th August 2013, 22:22
...I lost my poached egg on a bit of toast...I was just about to do the, poke the yoke thing and the world dropped out from under it...I found it in the clean up a few hours later...it ended up six foot away from the table on a seat, still on the toast...

Couple of minutes in the microwave it'd be sweet

mossy1200
17th August 2013, 22:22
...I lost my poached egg on a bit of toast...I was just about to do the, poke the yoke thing and the world dropped out from under it...I found it in the clean up a few hours later...it ended up six foot away from the table on a seat, still on the toast...

microwave and eat it

ellipsis
17th August 2013, 22:24
Couple of minutes in the microwave it'd be sweet

...I'd kinda lost my appetite by then Kick...

98tls
17th August 2013, 22:30
Couple of minutes in the microwave it'd be sweet

Was up your way on Friday and meant to call in but Vicky ended up getting lost in a mall somewhere,no doubt the cc statement will reveal just how lost:rolleyes:Was going to get a price for some new rubber on the ute as was told they wont pass next time.

Kickaha
17th August 2013, 22:35
Was up your way on Friday and meant to call in but Vicky ended up getting lost in a mall somewhere,no doubt the cc statement will reveal just how lost:rolleyes:Was going to get a price for some new rubber on the ute as was told they wont pass next time.

I was on holiday anyway

mashman
18th August 2013, 00:07
Fortunately I was having a lovely evenink in the country :drinknsin... kudos to those who gave the lifts, my wife, from Welly to where they needed to go... well, those who didn't have nice cars that they didn't want to sullied by picking up just anyone.

Maha
18th August 2013, 08:17
I like the way the media reports the goings on after an earth moving event ''Hundreds of cars trying to leave the city'' that happens everyday around the 5pm in Wellington. :rolleyes:
''Crowds of people spilling out in front of the train station'' that's because the trains were not working. :rolleyes:
Wait until you get a 7.9 or bigger quake, then there'll be something to report about...people sitting in bars drinking and laughing because there train is not working and clogging up the cell phone network, is not news.

The folk of Seddon however, they are the ones who are being most effect by the recent shakes, there is real damage in that small town. Same as Darfield in the September earthquake, where as Christchurch got 90% of coverage mostly about nothing.
Most house in Seddon are damaged while a few building in Wellington have 'superficial' damage.

AllanB
18th August 2013, 10:44
Darfield got off surprisingly lightly in Sept 4th - sure there was some major land movement but that was on rural land. There was good media coverage of a few old historic homes that got seriously fucked but the general township survived well and if you go out there you would never know it had happened. Christchurch on the other hand ........ Darfields events energy travelled that way. Same a the Feb Lyttelton shake the energy of the event was directed straight into the CBD - bloody felt like it too!

I is quite impressive to think that I felt last weeks Seddon wobble in CHCH half way down the Island. Just imagine when the Southern Alps goes again....

T.W.R
18th August 2013, 11:01
Darfield got off surprisingly lightly in Sept 4th - sure there was some major land movement but that was on rural land. There was good media coverage of a few old historic homes that got seriously fucked but the general township survived well and if you go out there you would never know it had happened. Christchurch on the other hand ........ Darfields events energy travelled that way. Same a the Feb Lyttelton shake the energy of the event was directed straight into the CBD - bloody felt like it too!


:lol: easy to say that now especially when you'd have no idea where to look ;) ChCh is on a jelly pack so it's going to shake like buggery, bloody swampy hole

Grumph
18th August 2013, 13:41
Darfield got off surprisingly lightly in Sept 4th - sure there was some major land movement but that was on rural land. There was good media coverage of a few old historic homes that got seriously fucked but the general township survived well and if you go out there you would never know it had happened. Christchurch on the other hand ........ Darfields events energy travelled that way. Same a the Feb Lyttelton shake the energy of the event was directed straight into the CBD - bloody felt like it too!

I is quite impressive to think that I felt last weeks Seddon wobble in CHCH half way down the Island. Just imagine when the Southern Alps goes again....

Not entirely true - as TWR says you have to know where to look. figures i've been told reveal more rebuilds per number of damaged houses out here than ChCh. they're slowly being done. The appearance of normality is simply because people have nowhere else to go so stay on in damaged houses.
What is staggering watching Seddon is the council's response....we didn't see a council representative for two and a half weeks....and then it was a local sub committee member. Who was it visited you TWR ? a member of the Charing Cross sewing circle or something similar...selwyn was and remains totally useless.
A councillor claimed in my hearing everyone in the district had been contacted within 3 days....turned out that fed farmers had contacted the cockies....no one gave a toss for the villages. He got a quick wakeup.....

T.W.R
18th August 2013, 16:32
Not entirely true - as TWR says you have to know where to look. figures i've been told reveal more rebuilds per number of damaged houses out here than ChCh. they're slowly being done. The appearance of normality is simply because people have nowhere else to go so stay on in damaged houses.
What is staggering watching Seddon is the council's response....we didn't see a council representative for two and a half weeks....and then it was a local sub committee member. Who was it visited you TWR ? a member of the Charing Cross sewing circle or something similar...selwyn was and remains totally useless.
A councillor claimed in my hearing everyone in the district had been contacted within 3 days....turned out that fed farmers had contacted the cockies....no one gave a toss for the villages. He got a quick wakeup.....

:yes: I think if my memory serves me right we actually got a letter from the council before we actually saw one knock at the door :pinch:. 1st actual contact was from CWI members & Fed farmers followed a day or 2 later by GSR people mainly because they were up & down the road all the time setting up their monitoring system at the end of Ridgens Rd where the fault line was visible :yes: The days following the quake we were literally alone apart from neighbours & family...not bad considering we were only a couple kms from the epicentre ;).
There'd been more tourists to be seen including sight seeing flights than any of the authorities in the 1st 2 weeks :lol:

mossy1200
18th August 2013, 17:40
Tied mine up today. I guess it would take a big one to drop a 250kg bike but im not going to risk it.

Kickaha
18th August 2013, 17:45
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bogan
18th August 2013, 17:54
Tied mine up today. I guess it would take a big one to drop a 250kg bike but im not going to risk it.

Did same to mine, though it was for other reasons (leaky bead) I might leave it like this for while.

AllanB
18th August 2013, 18:45
Seddon is looking pretty sad on the news. I went into 'town' to buy some paper from the art shop today. I spent my entire working life in there up until 2 years ago - little interest in going back and still full of broken buildings. I do wonder what is happening to some of them - maybe no insurance or some tree-hugger is trying to save some old building.

I wonder if EQC will offer them a better service given it is a small township and in theory they 'should' know what they are doing by now!!! Bound to be some policemen being flown over from Aussie already ...........

I know someone who went up to Welly a few months back to worth at EQC setting up systems for the next 'big' one. Happened a bit early!

Wellington should be on alert - good to see some bikes getting strapped - they can easily get thrown over or move forward and flip up the side-stand. Chock the rear wheel too.

I see the same tripe being dished out by the geo experts - face it, it is really a retrospective science and I remember getting rightly pissed off in CHCH with percentages predicting another 'big' one post September. Then they had the boxing day one and Feb's all on unknown fault lines...........

pete376403
18th August 2013, 19:13
Saw on the news that one in three people is leaving Seddon. No doubt they will be replaced short term by looters.

Need to get the army there with "shoot on sight" orders. Would only take a couple to get the message across.

BMWST?
18th August 2013, 19:18
Not entirely true - as TWR says you have to know where to look. figures i've been told reveal more rebuilds per number of damaged houses out here than ChCh. they're slowly being done. The appearance of normality is simply because people have nowhere else to go so stay on in damaged houses.
What is staggering watching Seddon is the council's response....we didn't see a council representative for two and a half weeks....and then it was a local sub committee member. Who was it visited you TWR ? a member of the Charing Cross sewing circle or something similar...selwyn was and remains totally useless.
A councillor claimed in my hearing everyone in the district had been contacted within 3 days....turned out that fed farmers had contacted the cockies....no one gave a toss for the villages. He got a quick wakeup.....

the scale of the thing was(and is) completely unheard of here,and there just arent the number of people with the required knowledge,and there still isnt.I am not trying to make excuses for anybody but that s how it is i guess.

BMWST?
18th August 2013, 19:20
Tied mine up today. I guess it would take a big one to drop a 250kg bike but im not going to risk it.

in a decent earthquake there will be a lateral and or vertical displacent of one or two meters with high g forces,not the tiddly shakes we have had.Older houses may leave their foundations behind(or is that the other way around) so you need some serious restraints!

Crasherfromwayback
18th August 2013, 19:47
I like the way the media reports the goings on after an earth moving event ''Hundreds of cars trying to leave the city'' that happens everyday around the 5pm in Wellington. :rolleyes:


Wait until you get a 7.9 or bigger quake, then there'll be something to report about...people sitting in bars drinking and laughing because there train is not working and clogging up the cell phone network, is not news.

The folk of Seddon however, they are the ones who are being most effect by the recent shakes, there is real damage in that small town. Same as Darfield in the September earthquake, where as Christchurch got 90% of coverage mostly about nothing.
Most house in Seddon are damaged while a few building in Wellington have 'superficial' damage.

Dude...we don't have traffic jams and issues like the folks north of the Bombays do. Trust me...the traffic jams were the worst I've seen in my fucking life here in Wellington. It was total fucking chaos.

A 7.9 you say? Have you every experienced a severe earthquake of any fucking size? The ones we've been having here...are good enough to knock you off your feet. Very similar to the ones the poor cunts in CH CH got...just not right under us. You can make light of it as much as you want...but your fucking won't when it's your turn.

Maha
18th August 2013, 20:07
Dude...we don't have traffic jams and issues like the folks north of the Bombays do. Trust me...the traffic jams were the worst I've seen in my fucking life here in Wellington. It was total fucking chaos.

A 7.9 you say? Have you every experienced a severe earthquake of any fucking size? The ones we've been having here...are good enough to knock you off your feet. Very similar to the ones the poor cunts in CH CH got...just not right under us. You can make light of it as much as you want...but your fucking won't when it's your turn.

Lived in Rotorua for many years so yeah felt enough earthquakes, late 70's there were 6 decent ones in one day, we used to feel quakes in one of the town and people in other parts wouldn't not.

The only thing I am making light of is, how the media report these events, but you would have picked up on that in the very first sentence.......eh Pete?
If you missed it, here it is again ''I like the way the media reports the goings on after an earth moving event''

Paul in NZ
18th August 2013, 20:15
We got out asap and encountered minimal traffic. However there was a lot coming into town to pick people up!

Also - at least one school txt'd parents to come pick up kids when busses were still running...

In a really messy one it would be chaos...

Paul in NZ
18th August 2013, 20:18
A 7.9 you say? Have you every experienced a severe earthquake of any fucking size? The ones we've been having here...are good enough to knock you off your feet. Very similar to the ones the poor cunts in CH CH got...just not right under us. You can make light of it as much as you want...but your fucking won't when it's your turn.

Don't stress pete - if the big wellington fault hits it will be very different to chch and the ones we recently had. Thats mainly down to the geology. One things for sure the dumbarse mayor wont be sitting on TV bleating about how much more resilient wellington is...

Ocean1
18th August 2013, 20:27
Don't stress pete - if the big wellington fault hits it will be very different to chch and the ones we recently had. Thats mainly down to the geology. One things for sure the dumbarse mayor wont be sitting on TV bleating about how much more resilient wellington is...

Will we get to tar and feather the fuckwits that insisted on rebuilding the hospital on the wrong side of the fault line? Do we get to string up the ones that failed to manage a backup route out of town?

AllanB
18th August 2013, 20:45
There was a geo specialist at work doing a talk some time back (I've been knee deep in the earthquake scene since changing jobs post Feb 2011) who said 'when' the Southern Alps go it will be on a very defined slip plain of vertical movement so not expected to have the violence we got in CHCH. However they predict CHCH will experience a rolling effect that may last over three minutes ............

BMWST?
18th August 2013, 21:40
Will we get to tar and feather the fuckwits that insisted on rebuilding the hospital on the wrong side of the fault line? Do we get to string up the ones that failed to manage a backup route out of town?

What's the right side of the fault line?


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Berries
18th August 2013, 21:49
What's the right side of the fault line?
South of the Waitaki.



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Crasherfromwayback
18th August 2013, 21:54
Lived in Rotorua for many years so yeah felt enough earthquakes, late 70's there were 6 decent ones in one day, we used to feel quakes in one of the town and people in other parts wouldn't not.

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Good for you mate. But I can't for the life of me remember Rotorua getting a series of 6 plus shakes in the 70's. As I said...get back to me when you do. The poor folks of CH CH will tell you all about it. Theirs were right under them.

tigertim20
18th August 2013, 21:54
What's the right side of the fault line?


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colorado?


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Ocean1
18th August 2013, 22:03
What's the right side of the fault line?


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The other side.

The side closest to the geographic centre of the population served by the hospital. The side more likely to be accessible in the event of a disaster. The side that would have cost less in which to develop a new facility.

Not the side on which a vast gaggle of consultants maintain their offices and practices, and who would have been somewhat inconvenienced by any move to, say the Kenepuru campus, to take a wild swing at a completely random example.

Had to be one of the most transparently politically driven pieces of toadyism and general old-boy's club bullshit ever seen in this country.

T.W.R
18th August 2013, 22:57
There was a geo specialist at work doing a talk some time back (I've been knee deep in the earthquake scene since changing jobs post Feb 2011) who said 'when' the Southern Alps go it will be on a very defined slip plain of vertical movement so not expected to have the violence we got in CHCH. However they predict CHCH will experience a rolling effect that may last over three minutes ............

They can't really predict anything when it's comes to quakes :no: The Geo specialist would have been using a lot of theory based on what happened in 68 with the Inangahua quake ;) that was a magnitude 7.1 and shock ChCh for quite a while, was felt in Otago & most of the Nth island (according to GeoNet intensities of MM4 were felt that far afield & at least MM10 at Inangahua).
But that's it; all theory no one quake is the same as the next, we're just here for the ride

BMWST?
18th August 2013, 23:00
Inangahua quake ;) that was a magnitude 7.1 and shock ChCh for quite a while, was felt in Otago & most of the Nth island (according to GeoNet intensities of MM4 were felt that far afield & at least MM10 at Inangahua).


Was a good shake in welly that one


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AllanB
18th August 2013, 23:02
True, but the difference is the Alps have a well defined 'slip' area when the move, the last big one had movement of 1 meter vertically!

I do agree with you though - darn thing could 'slip' twice that next time. Any lengthy ground shaking in ChCh worries me - we will end up below sea level!

T.W.R
18th August 2013, 23:05
Was a good shake in welly that one


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Pretty sure in knocked the spire off the cathedral in chch actually :yes:

T.W.R
18th August 2013, 23:08
True, but the difference is the Alps have a well defined 'slip' area when the move, the last big one had movement of 1 meter vertically!

I do agree with you though - darn thing could 'slip' twice that next time. Any lengthy ground shaking in ChCh worries me - we will end up below sea level!

didn't the February quake shunt the port hills up a fair bit? :lol: the square is already 2m below sea level anyhow, probably more now

AllanB
18th August 2013, 23:08
the spire had been down a couple times due to earthquakes over its life. We are slow learners down here apparently........

T.W.R
18th August 2013, 23:14
the spire had been down a couple times due to earthquakes over its life. We are slow learners down here apparently........

Ha move south of the Rakaia ;) . Half a km past Chertsey towards Ashburton is the highest point on the southern rail road same height above sea level as what the cathedral spire used to be :yes:

Kickaha
18th August 2013, 23:52
Pretty sure in knocked the spire off the cathedral in chch actually :yes:

Parts were knocked off by the 1888 North Canterbury Earthquake and the 1901 Cheviot Earthquake, I don think any damage was done by the Inangahua Earthquake

T.W.R
19th August 2013, 00:02
Parts were knocked off by the 1888 North Canterbury Earthquake and the 1901 Cheviot Earthquake, I don think any damage was done by the Inangahua Earthquake

:lol: got a good memory for an old bugger, didn't think you were that old though :bleh:

Kickaha
19th August 2013, 08:24
:lol: got a good memory for an old bugger, didn't think you were that old though :bleh:

Learnt about the Cheviot one (6.9) at school although it should really be called the Parnassus earthquake and I was reading the story board about the Cathedral in the square two weeks ago

Just did a refresher and found some reports of liquifaction in Kaiapoi from the 1901 in the areas which are now fucked

T.W.R
19th August 2013, 10:34
Learnt about the Cheviot one (6.9) at school although it should really be called the Parnassus earthquake and I was reading the story board about the Cathedral in the square two weeks ago

Just did a refresher and found some reports of liquifaction in Kaiapoi from the 1901 in the areas which are now fucked

:yes: Just been reading a bit about them too.....bit of a reality check when you read how many good ones NZ has had :crazy: the regularity of them is a shock too.

The liquifaction is to be expected though all bloody swamp land so what do they expect if they keep building on it

imdying
19th August 2013, 11:19
Tied mine up today. I guess it would take a big one to drop a 250kg bike but im not going to risk it.Surprisingly, it was my experience that the lighter bikes faired better. Your mileage will vary though.

The talk of richter scale values doesn't mean a whole lot... we learnt it was very much depth, location, and whole heap of underground shit you can't see, that dictated how much of a beating you got. Especially depth. A 7.9 at 200km deep wouldn't excite much.

FWIW, none of the Chch earthquakes managed to get anywhere near taking me off my feet, but that was more likely circumstances than anything else. Plenty of people have mentioned to me being unsteady, don't recall anyone going over though.

Bolt your shit down Pete. It's all replaceable, unless it lands on you and kills you, and that, we do not want.

Crasherfromwayback
19th August 2013, 11:40
Bolt your shit down Pete. It's all replaceable, unless it lands on you and kills you, and that, we do not want.

Yeah think I've got the serious stuff all sorted now cheers.

ellipsis
19th August 2013, 12:30
Yeah think I've got the serious stuff all sorted now cheers.

...the notion of what is 'serious', changes somewhat after being part of the loss, death, destruction that was visited on us down here.....sometimes it's the little, not so serious bits that add up to losing a lot...I can honestly say that a lot of what I thought was serious shit before, not just stuff and things, but ideas, notions and your place in the scheme of things, change...radically sometimes...people are far more important and being totally powerless to do anything about anything is a somewhat terrifying and gut wrenching feeling...I lost no one close to me but knew a couple of those who died, well, but I never knew what real terror was until I couldn't account for my family for over four hours...it still makes me shudder to think of those hours...you can only prepare and hope like fuck...I'm hoping like fuck that you dont have to find out...Kia Kaha to all up at the top of the South and you lot across the ditch...

Crasherfromwayback
19th August 2013, 12:38
...the notion of what is 'serious', changes somewhat after being part of the loss, death, destruction that was visited on us down here.....sometimes it's the little, not so serious bits that add up to losing a lot...I can honestly say that a lot of what I thought was serious shit before, not just stuff and things, but ideas, notions and your place in the scheme of things, change...radically sometimes...people are far more important and being totally powerless to do anything about anything is a somewhat terrifying and gut wrenching feeling...I lost no one close to me but knew a couple of those who died, well, but I never knew what real terror was until I couldn't account for my family for over four hours...it still makes me shudder to think of those hours...you can only prepare and hope like fuck...I'm hoping like fuck that you dont have to find out...Kia Kaha to all up at the top of the South and you lot across the ditch...

Yeah I can only imagine mate. And cheers.

T.W.R
19th August 2013, 12:46
Surprisingly, it was my experience that the lighter bikes faired better. Your mileage will vary though.


FWIW, none of the Chch earthquakes managed to get anywhere near taking me off my feet, but that was more likely circumstances than anything else. Plenty of people have mentioned to me being unsteady, don't recall anyone going over though.



Sept 4th managed to throw me 4ft clear of my bed where I was sleeping till I heard the noise before the shake actually hit :yes: I'm 100kg, went to try and stand & the 2nd wave knocked me flat again :facepalm:

3 bikes in the garage at the time; a CBR600, GSXR11, & my 1100F, the F was the only one that stayed upright both the CBR & Gixxer fell The F is somewhere over 270kg wet

imdying
19th August 2013, 12:49
There ya go... that shit just can't be predicted!

For me 'serious' is anything that will eat me. Everything else is the insurance companies problem. Only real concern I had during the September one was tiles coming through the ceiling. Didn't happen, but croncrete... wouldn't have been a fun time.

Enjoy them whilst you can Pete, you can't pay for this sort of fun :D

Kickaha
19th August 2013, 12:52
:yes: Just been reading a bit about them too.....bit of a reality check when you read how many good ones NZ has had :crazy: the regularity of them is a shock too.

Very common, I was reading reports from the early settlers back in the mid to late 1800s

We had a English tourist in at work when the Feb one hit, his comment was "we dont get shit like this at home"

imdying
19th August 2013, 13:23
Don't the Shaky Isles rock :Punk:

T.W.R
19th August 2013, 13:27
Very common, I was reading reports from the early settlers back in the mid to late 1800s

We had a English tourist in at work when the Feb one hit, his comment was "we dont get shit like this at home"


Don't the Shaky Isles rock :Punk:

This is just the shallow ones

http://www.gns.cri.nz/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/home/learning/science-topics/earthquakes/new-zealand-earthquakes/where-were-nzs-largest-earthquakes/large-eqs/37120-2-eng-GB/Large-eqs.jpg

98tls
19th August 2013, 13:45
Learnt about the Cheviot one (6.9) at school although it should really be called the Parnassus earthquake and I was reading the story board about the Cathedral in the square two weeks ago

Just did a refresher and found some reports of liquifaction in Kaiapoi from the 1901 in the areas which are now fucked

Interesting that,never knew there had been one at Cheviot/Parnassus,nor did i know how Parnassus came to be named.

98tls
19th August 2013, 13:52
I was 5 when the Inangahua earthquake struck,dont remember anything myself but mum had got up early to go to work at the Culverdun toll exchange and always remembered looking out the lounge window and seeing the power lines arcing.My Grandmother was in Westport when the Murchison one stuck and reckoned that was well scary.

F5 Dave
19th August 2013, 14:25
Erm, so how did they know in 1855, that a quake was 8.2 and not, say a 6.2?

ellipsis
19th August 2013, 14:33
Erm, so how did they know in 1855, that a quake was 8.2 and not, say a 6.2?

...'cos Geowankboffins new as much then as they do now, could be an answer...:whistle:

Crasherfromwayback
19th August 2013, 14:43
Erm, so how did they know in 1855, that a quake was 8.2 and not, say a 6.2?

Probably by the size of the skid marks in their gruts!

imdying
19th August 2013, 15:08
Erm, so how did they know in 1855, that a quake was 8.2 and not, say a 6.2?Presumably something that large left plenty of evidence to analyse... when a million cube of earth moves a few metres, you can extrapolate from that something big happened.

Banditbandit
19th August 2013, 15:32
...'cos Geowankboffins new as much then as they do now, could be an answer...:whistle:

I like this one ...

The Earth moves occassionally - get over it ... Who told you this was a safe planet we live on ???

F5 Dave
19th August 2013, 15:36
Presumably something that large left plenty of evidence to analyse... when a million cube of earth moves a few metres, you can extrapolate from that something big happened.


To quote someone who probably knows a whole lot more than I do about the subject.. .


. . .
The talk of richter scale values doesn't mean a whole lot... we learnt it was very much depth, location, and whole heap of underground shit you can't see, that dictated how much of a beating you got. . . .

So I still struggle to see how they can work it out. Probably a free app someone downloaded

Banditbandit
19th August 2013, 15:39
I was 5 when the Inangahua earthquake struck,dont remember anything myself but mum had got up early to go to work at the Culverdun toll exchange and always remembered looking out the lounge window and seeing the power lines arcing.My Grandmother was in Westport when the Murchison one stuck and reckoned that was well scary.

I was at Intermediate school - I think this one was my first realization that earthquakes could actually be disasterous - and I have a clear picture (black and white) of a large crack running across the road at Inungahua. In fact (when I went to look) this one .. adn the car in the hole.

http://info.geonet.org.nz/download/thumbnails/950840/Inangahua-Earthquake-1968.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1346279641643

http://info.geonet.org.nz/download/thumbnails/950840/Inangahua-Earthquake-1968_gallery_lge3.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1346206850372