Question about registering an 'on hold' bike just for a couple of days

[Jally Bean]

I keep getting told that it's possible to buy just a couple of days of rego for a bike that's currently on hold - eg so a vintage bike can go out to a show. I went into the post shop at lunch time and they gave me an MR27 - that doesn't seem right. Has anyone done this and what form did you use? Thanks

[98tls]

I keep getting told that it's possible to buy just a couple of days of rego for a bike that's currently on hold - eg so a vintage bike can go out to a show. I went into the post shop at lunch time and they gave me an MR27 - that doesn't seem right. Has anyone done this and what form did you use? Thanks

Yep it can be done,remembering you will need to get a wof to rego it.I did it for a weekend once,was ages back and cant remember what form i filled out,if its been on hold for longer than the minimum 3 month period then you would simply rego the bike using whatever form you usually use,remember you will have to go back in or online to put it back on hold.I think when i did it it cost me about $30 for a few days.

[pete376403]

I had the KLR reg on hold, using form MR27 I registered it in June this year for two weeks (cost $8.82 IIRC) and then put it back on hold the day the two week period expired. (the KLR, despite stone age technology, is not a vintage bike, BTW) . The bike does require a WOF prior to reg.

Only catch, which applies to any reg on hold, is that if you re-reg within three months of the hold period starting, the reg will be backdated to the day the reg expired.

[jellywrestler]

I keep getting told that it's possible to buy just a couple of days of rego for a bike that's currently on hold - eg so a vintage bike can go out to a show. I went into the post shop at lunch time and they gave me an MR27 - that doesn't seem right. Has anyone done this and what form did you use? Thanks

send me the form, and a cheque and I will print you off a rego sticker and send it to you
I'm legally allowed to as I'm from the Ngati Beige Tribe

[tri boy]

I'm from the Ngati Beige Tribe

Bollocks.
You are a white as a sheet gentleman.
That is occasionally red from sunburn,
a shade of green, (mostly in the morning at Rallies,
Black/grey, when you have slept on the edge ashes of bonfires,
Purple in the nether regions, when a fillie in tight leathers gives you the glad eye,
Red, when you nick yourself shaving,
Blue, when the bonfire died out hours earlier,
but NEVER Beige, so stop trying to get a cheap loan honky.:lol:

[jellywrestler]

Bollocks.
You are a white as a sheet gentleman.
That is occasionally red from sunburn,
a shade of green, (mostly in the morning at Rallies,
Black/grey, when you have slept on the edge ashes of bonfires,
Purple in the nether regions, when a fillie in tight leathers gives you the glad eye,
Red, when you nick yourself shaving,
Blue, when the bonfire died out hours earlier,
but NEVER Beige, so stop trying to get a cheap loan honky.:lol:

True; and my bank accounts often in the red!

[Moi]

... Only catch, which applies to any reg on hold, is that if you re-reg within three months of the hold period starting, the reg will be backdated to the day the reg expired.

This is the part I'm not sure about: let's say you put your bike "on-hold" on the 1st May, so the three month 'stand down' period goes through to 1st August. You licence it for the first two weeks in September and then place it back on-hold. Does that three month 'stand down' period start again from the middle of September or is there only one stand down period at the very beginning of the on-hold?

The NZTA website is unclear on this point...

[Voltaire]

I had my modern ( 33 years old) bike on hold and about 3 weeks before the 3 months was up wanted to register it, up for the whole backdated period. It resets once you register again.....not from the original on hold.
vintage over 40 year old bikes are I think different and you can register them for a short time, mine is $117 a year. when it expires you don't need to put it on hold and it just starts up from the day you re register it.

[Ender EnZed]

This is the part I'm not sure about: let's say you put your bike "on-hold" on the 1st May, so the three month 'stand down' period goes through to 1st August. You licence it for the first two weeks in September and then place it back on-hold. Does that three month 'stand down' period start again from the middle of September or is there only one stand down period at the very beginning of the on-hold?

The NZTA website is unclear on this point...

Firstly, when you put your rego on hold you need to choose a period (3-12 months), it's not indefinite*. If you'd only selected 3 months from 1st May then when you went to register it in September you'd have to back pay to 1st August. Either way, once you place it back on hold 15 September then it needs to stay on hold until 15 December or you'll have to back pay to 15 September.

The "stand down" period resets every time the bike is registered.


*There's no disadvantage to choosing 12 months, it doesn't have to stay on hold the entire time.

[jaykay]

Also not forgetting changing registered owner cancels the three month rule.

As it only costs $9.20 to change RO, (which does not affect the legal owner), and $9.20 to change it back - on occasion the savings can be considerable - what's more this is not illegal in any way - and nobody gets chased for back rego.

[Jally Bean]

Thanks guys that's really helpful , and very amusing when you wander off topic, as you do :)

[Jally Bean]

And actually this bit is confusing me:


You licence it for the first two weeks in September and then place it back on-hold.

I had to have surgery last year - while my bike was registered and had six months remaining. Since I couldn't ride for three months I tried to put it on hold and they told me that the hold doesn't start till the current rego expires - so presumable you only rego'd it for two weeks?

[Corse1]

And actually this bit is confusing me:



I had to have surgery last year - while my bike was registered and had six months remaining. Since I couldn't ride for three months I tried to put it on hold and they told me that the hold doesn't start till the current rego expires - so presumable you only rego'd it for two weeks?

Once you have paid rego for a period, there is no way you can avoid having that rego run its course. The only way to do this is to deregister and hand the plates back for a rebate on the months still remaining. :no:

[Moi]

And actually this bit is confusing me:

** a bit here about licensing it for two weeks...

I had to have surgery last year - while my bike was registered and had six months remaining. Since I couldn't ride for three months I tried to put it on hold and they told me that the hold doesn't start till the current rego expires - so presumable you only rego'd it for two weeks?

What I was thinking was: if the licence expires and I put the car/bike/vehicle onhold for 12 months I have to wait for the first three months to pass before I can licence it for, say, two weeks without incurring back licencing. Then once those two weeks' licence expires I put it back onhold. Now this is where it gets interesting or just plain bloody stupid [I tend to go with the latter] - I seem to have to wait another three months before I can licence it for a short time without incurring back licencing. NZTA's website is not clear on this aspect.

If this is the case then I would suggest that NZTA need to reconsider the whole onhold situation and introduce a fairer system.
1. You have continuous licensing - no change from the present system.
2. You have a "prepay" licensing system which does away with the three month period but requires you to have the vehicle on a "prepay continuous licence" which costs a nominal amount each year, say $20, and allows you to licence for whatever time you want via the internet or through a face-to-face licensing place. These licence labels are the same as the present ones[showing an expiry date] but with a coloured strip so the popo can see them and check that it is licensed and allowed on the road.
3. Then you have "proper" onhold, that is the vehicle is off the road for extended repairs / restoration / rejuvenating / or whatever and if used on a road you are stung heavily for not playing the game. Perhaps having the plate/s removed from the vehicle and you having to re-register it unless you can show very valid reason for having it on the road, such as taking it for WoF before relicensing.

With something like this those of us who would like to have a bike available but don't wish to pay huge sums of money for it to sit around would have a better way of being legal.

[pete376403]

Thats quite reasonable and all, but surely you don't think the point of registration is to benefit the owner.

All the Gummint is interested in is revenue. Continuous licensing, whether you use the bike or not, is a guaranteed income stream. Being able to put registration on hold was probably a last minute addition to the regulations to give the appearance of fairness.

[Moi]

Thats quite reasonable and all, but surely you don't think the point of registration is to benefit the owner.

All the Gummint is interested in is revenue. Continuous licensing, whether you use the bike or not, is a guaranteed income stream. Being able to put registration on hold was probably a last minute addition to the regulations to give the appearance of fairness.

I agree, however I think it is good to remind some of these people [NZTA and ACC as they are the income beneficiaries of the licensing system] that they are 'public servants' and will remain so as long as they are paid by the government irrespective of the fancy names they may give themselves. As public servants they do need to consider both the rights of the public who are tax payers and their obligations to the tax payer. [Before anyone has a go at me about this concept, I am a public servant and have spent over 42 years as one in education.]

As for revenue: yes, continuous licensing is a guaranteed income, but what would the income be increased by by having the prepay system working? At present those with vehicles onhold are paying nothing unless they legitimately license the vehicle for a short period and put it back onhold. Reading through other threads it is quite possible that many don't do that and hope they are not caught - it seems that it is quite likely that the driver/rider of a unlicensed vehicle will get away with it. Perhaps, if ACC thought they might gain a little more revenue from a prepay system then it might be a serious consideration.

I am sure that this thread and others on this site are read by people from both above named government agencies and perhaps, but I'm not holding my breath, they might start to think a little outside the square,

If it was easy for you to put a bike onhold and license it for short time periods when you want to use it, would you be inclined to do so?

[Gremlin]

I am sure that this thread and others on this site are read by people from both above named government agencies and perhaps, but I'm not holding my breath, they might start to think a little outside the square,

If it was easy for you to put a bike onhold and license it for short time periods when you want to use it, would you be inclined to do so?
:killingme :weird:

The government wants you to have it continuously licenced. They don't want you paying for the days you ride.

As for thinking outside the square... come on mate!