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bugjuice
22nd August 2005, 16:32
who's got one, and what's it like?
Recommendations?
just something that's been in the back of my head now.. The insurance companies I called (didn't call all of them) mostly said that bike alarms don't decrease the policy cost, and that they're often a waste of time and money.
Given that some of the alarms I've seen (that are apparently worth their weight) are up to $350 installed (there's more and less), and since you aren't going to get that back on your policy, is it worth the dough?
When I get some burning a hole in my pocket, I've seen a couple of nifty ones (including one that has SMS features, as well as GPS) which would be cool, but is it the way to go?
White trash
22nd August 2005, 16:35
Bear in mind, they're not ususally very strong. Alarm systems for some reason do not take nicely to bike style vibrations. Also, if fitted with an immobaliser and the thing plays up, it'll leave ya stranded somewhere.
They also HATE crash landed wheelies.
bugjuice
22nd August 2005, 16:37
Bear in mind, they're not ususally very strong. Alarm systems for some reason do not take nicely to bike style vibrations. Also, if fitted with an immobaliser and the thing plays up, it'll leave ya stranded somewhere.
They also HATE crash landed wheelies.
ahhhhh.. yeah, DSS3 can vouch for that.. I guess hard landings etc can fuk up the sensors.. What about installing it nearer the back of the bike instead of the front..?? like the tail section, but have the pizo nearer the front?
Lou Girardin
22nd August 2005, 16:38
The Mongoose MCA500 is a dedicated bike alarm. Waterproof, vibe proof etc. When I was at Mongoose we had only one faulty unit returned. It had been mounted UNDER the rear guard. As the rear susp sagged the tyre started hitting the module.
But it worked for around a year before it died.
Brains
22nd August 2005, 16:41
Had one on my Duc748, basically because the bike didn't have anything to stop itself from being nicked. Current bike has built in immoblizer thingy, so not really concerned about getting another alarm, also the whole insurance thing it's just not worth it. They are useful for stopping peps mucking round with your bike though, number of times that I'd park up at uni and come back at the end of class and the alarm would chirp - telling me it'd been set off.
bugjuice
22nd August 2005, 16:47
Had one on my Duc748, basically because the bike didn't have anything to stop itself from being nicked. Current bike has built in immoblizer thingy, so not really concerned about getting another alarm, also the whole insurance thing it's just not worth it. They are useful for stopping peps mucking round with your bike though, number of times that I'd park up at uni and come back at the end of class and the alarm would chirp - telling me it'd been set off.
yeah, but set off by people dicking with it, or by trucks passing it?
Brains
22nd August 2005, 16:51
yeah, but set off by people dicking with it, or by trucks passing it?
Parked underneath the library, only bikes and pushbikes allowed - limited access only to uni service vehicles, which usually didn't go there as only a walkway out of the area, and stairs all around.
onearmedbandit
22nd August 2005, 17:12
Mongoose MCA500 here as well, never had a problem with it. Remote start function is cool but gimicky. Siren could be a bit louder.
texmo
22nd August 2005, 18:48
where can ya get one in auckland.?
bugjuice
22nd August 2005, 19:11
where can ya get one in auckland.?
I think there's a couple of car alarm places can get hold and fit bike alarms, and of course most bike shops will have some idea. I haven't asked about them yet, but might do if I get bored at the weekend. I'm in no rush at the moment. I'm also looking on trademe and there's always the good ol' states and uk ebay..
Zed
22nd August 2005, 19:12
Mongoose MCA500 here as well, never had a problem with it. Remote start function is cool but gimicky. Siren could be a bit louder.That same model of alarm came fitted to my CBR6 last year, certainly provides peace of mind when leaving it unattended but in reality if someone really wants to steal it they will, despite what security measures you've put in place! :nono:
And you're right OAB, that remote start is gimmicky...I started it a few times without the key in the ignition and nearly got myself into an embarrasing situation as I began to ride off and remembered at the last second that the key was still in my pocket! :o
Brains
22nd August 2005, 19:17
Mine was a Viper, sorry don't know the model, got it fitted year before last. Never had any real problems with it, however at some places I had to be real close to the bike to disarm the thing - think it was cell towers or something like that.
BNZ
22nd August 2005, 19:55
Get a talking one to keep you company on those long rides.
BJ you won lotto? Your thinking of throwing $350 on a alarm, yet you almost had to sell that bike not long ago!!
skidMark
22nd August 2005, 20:57
hey ive put one in my mini was relatively easy to install and ive done some bumping offroading on it and through pouring rain aint affected it at all $84.95 jaycar electronics in khyber pass road has all the immobilizer and remote kill mute arming and a 120db siren it's damn loud and has adjustable sensitivity and is not set off by road noise of trucks and things works really well no noise around it seems to set it off but u try move that bike and damn will it deter anybody ..
bugjuice if you decide to get one you can come over to my place one weekend and ill put it in for you mate :) i won't charge you to install it of course ....happy to help out another biker :)
bugjuice
22nd August 2005, 21:02
Get a talking one to keep you company on those long rides.
BJ you won lotto? Your thinking of throwing $350 on a alarm, yet you almost had to sell that bike not long ago!!
life (and my bank account) is a rollercoaster.. I've not won yet (and far from being rich), but I don't have to sell the bike either. I also don't want to loose it to some low life tosser wanting to have a go. I also don't want to spend 350 bucks, so I'm shopping around.
Thanks for the offer too Mark. I haven't installed an alarm myself yet, but fairly literate with electronics. I'll give ya a shout and we could figure it out, if I get round to getting one..
skidMark
22nd August 2005, 21:18
they are pretty straight forward but since ive done one thought it would save you frying braincells :devil2:
BNZ
22nd August 2005, 21:21
they are pretty straight forward but since ive done one thought it would save you frying braincells :devil2:
Yeah as long as you can get a wiring diagram for your bike its a piece of piss.
skidMark
22nd August 2005, 21:50
with the way it hooks up you don't even need the bikes diagram really
bugjuice
22nd August 2005, 22:10
well actually, the couple I've been looking at, plug straight into the loom, so no cutting or even diagrams.. the plugs only fit one spot, which makes it a fuckin dream.. but those are a tad more pricey.. but have cell phone technology in them too, like SMS control of the vehicle.. very bling I must say, but it'll tell you everything you want to know about the bike/car etc, just by texting the system. You can even shut it off, trace it's route over the past 255 hours, and pin-point it's location. bling.. the el-cheapo version of this, starts at just over US$200 which isn't bad, and it's tri-band cell, so in theory, it should work if I went with it.. But I'm keeping my options open for a while yet..
skidMark
22nd August 2005, 22:19
holy crap are you ordering it from nasa or something? :clap:
you could have a text chat with your bike......how are you.....i have peop0le eyeing me up....
are you okay....... ill just go nuts if they lay a finger on me i will text oyu if they touch me .....
lol it could go on for hours:P
T.I.E
23rd August 2005, 06:43
As usual.. Kerry at Motohaus supplies and installs them.
what does kerry not do.
i miss living in mt eden
Lou Girardin
23rd August 2005, 08:12
where can ya get one in auckland.?
Call Mongoose.
Lou Girardin
23rd August 2005, 08:13
Mine was a Viper, sorry don't know the model, got it fitted year before last. Never had any real problems with it, however at some places I had to be real close to the bike to disarm the thing - think it was cell towers or something like that.
Hamilton is notorious for that, there's a concentration of RF transmitters at the southern end of town that interferes with remotes.
bugjuice
23rd August 2005, 10:06
LOL, yeah and bugjuice would be all like, "You hang up first.", and the bikes all "No you hang up first", and then Kits No you, No You!... OK I'll hang up,....ready...........you still there?..Yep.... Farrk I told you I couldnt hang up.. this time I will.. ready.. go.
Hello bike?
Yep.
:wait:
lol.. nah I wouldn't.. well.. not really.. well after a few days, the novilty would wear off.. like, after a few weeks. A month or so should do it.. but then text is free at the weekends too.. and I can remote start/disable the bike with the phone too, now how cool is that? it's like, James Bond shit here..
ah fuk it, I'd be textin the bike all the time.. just have to learn to make it talk back instead (which is an aditional package, but a small fortune), and make lights go back and forth across the front of the bike while it comes to pick me up from work when it's raining..
skidMark
23rd August 2005, 22:03
lol.. nah I wouldn't.. well.. not really.. well after a few days, the novilty would wear off.. like, after a few weeks. A month or so should do it.. but then text is free at the weekends too.. and I can remote start/disable the bike with the phone too, now how cool is that? it's like, James Bond shit here..
ah fuk it, I'd be textin the bike all the time.. just have to learn to make it talk back instead (which is an aditional package, but a small fortune), and make lights go back and forth across the front of the bike while it comes to pick me up from work when it's raining..
umm what if you loose your phone someone is going to get a free phone and a err free bike just don't accidently text it these things:
start in gear...
self destruct.....
fry wiring loom..
skidMark
23rd August 2005, 22:07
if anybody wants me to help them out if they decide to get a jaycar alarm like ive got ill put it in for ya
bugjuice
23rd August 2005, 22:10
umm what if you loose your phone someone is going to get a free phone and a err free bike just don't accidently text it these things:
start in gear...
self destruct.....
fry wiring loom..
the bike gets its own phone number, so it doesn't matter what phone I use. Only I would know the phone number. And, if the phone number was found out you still have a PIN to figure, and if you got that too, it still doesn't allow you to ride off with it. You can start it, but once you sit on it or pull the clutch in, it'll arm again if the key isn't in the ignition.
Still can't start in gear, don't *think* it can self-destruct (altho will look into it), and I don't think it can fry the loom too. Might warrant a call to the manufacturer if it did!
skidMark
23rd August 2005, 22:16
sometimes your overthinking scares me buggy
bugjuice
23rd August 2005, 22:26
sometimes your overthinking scares me buggy
and I haven't even started.... yet
skidMark
23rd August 2005, 22:36
dude your signature may be in cartoon but that is still just damn rotton :devil2:
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