MNZ rule changes to be aware of

[F5 Dave]

Hmm, just got that email as most of you will have.

As we have this in our rules:

24.2.2
Construction of Solo Motorcycles:
Miniature road racers are to be constructed in accordance with, and comply
with, Chapter 10.

The below must follow:

(There may be more, by all means point them out)



Rule
22.6.2
Once the meeting has been declared wet, are rear facing red LED light must be fitted and
operational. The light must be fitted to the motorcycle and in a position that is visible to any
following rider and be of a minimum size of
25mm and maximum of 45mm

Rule
22.8.19
Front brake caliper mounting bolts, must be wired or pinned in the tightened position

Rule
22.8.21
A chainguard or sharkfin made of a suitable rigid material MUST be fitted
in such a way to prevent
trapping between the lower chain run and the final drive sprocket at the rear wheel. All edges must
be rounded


Don't worry, we have until Thursday to comply.
Rule Changes - Effective 1 August 2013 (http://mnz.us2.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=ebf5440c0b34ac6fa7f0aa298&id=15c81d086c&e=e74636d536)
The Board of MNZ have ratified rule changes that were presented by Commissioners. These rule changes will take effect 1st August 2013.

[Pumba]

But dave all of those rules are located in Chapter 22, not Chapter 10. As I understand it we do not need to comply with Chapter 22 as our rules are covered under Chapter 24.

[jasonu]

Ha! Rear facing light that's a fucking good one for a bucket! Half the buckets around are lucky to keep the engine running when it gets wet let alone a rear facing light.
But don't worry, buckets is a self policing class so the MNZ highly unlikely to show anyway.

[Yow Ling]

Ha! Rear facing light that's a fucking good one for a bucket! Half the buckets around are lucky to keep the engine running when it gets wet let alone a rear facing light.
But don't worry, buckets is a self policing class so the MNZ highly unlikely to show anyway.

Get one of those dynamos that run off the front wheel, just flick it on when it rains

[F5 Dave]

But dave all of those rules are located in Chapter 22, not Chapter 10. As I understand it we do not need to comply with Chapter 22 as our rules are covered under Chapter 24.

Try turning up to a road race meet & saying you don't have to abide by the Road racing rules because you're special & see how you go. It isn't under a 'class' like Supersport for example. its clumped with many other general rules.

[Kickaha]

Half the buckets around are lucky to keep the engine running when it gets wet let alone a rear facing light.
You obviously weren't at "The big wet one" a few years ago, most of those that stopped running were because they crashed

Even with an open carb and no rear guard mine didn't have a problem

[F5 Dave]

I'm assuming there will be a supply of cheap all day battery stick on lights were intended by this rule (the wording seems to indicate you must use a 25mm or bigger singular LED which may be more than a little problematic, but not the wording intention I guess).

On a gloomy winter day with heaps of spray & slow & crashed bikes on a fast track like Ruapuna, maybe this isn't such a dumb idea.

[Pumba]

Ok after looking at them a bit harder (not a work), rule 22.6.2 we will need to comply with (if a bucket meeting is ever actually declared wet. It has never happened to me on a Kart track yet, only once at TRSS); however rules 22.8.19 & 22.8.21 only apply for the road race championships. Therefore these two rules only apply for those running at the GP once a year (bit like the licence).

So in summary I was wrong (arse biscuit).

[Grumph]

Ok after looking at them a bit harder (not a work), rule 22.6.2 we will need to comply with (if a bucket meeting is ever actually declared wet. It has never happened to me on a Kart track yet, only once at TRSS); however rules 22.8.19 & 22.8.21 only apply for the road race championships. Therefore these two rules only apply for those running at the GP once a year (bit like the licence).

So in summary I was wrong (arse biscuit).

I don't think I've ever seen hard criteria for declaring a meeting wet anyway....For some it will be a cost saving - don't have to buy wets if you don't want to fit a light. Classics will notice a drop in runners on wet days - try fitting a light to a Manx Norton...
Bastard of a rule - i've got to fit lights to anything going to Greymouth now.

[richban]

I don't think I've ever seen hard criteria for declaring a meeting wet anyway....For some it will be a cost saving - don't have to buy wets if you don't want to fit a light. Classics will notice a drop in runners on wet days - try fitting a light to a Manx Norton...
Bastard of a rule - i've got to fit lights to anything going to Greymouth now.

Push bike light with cable tie. Done.

[Kickaha]

Rule
22.6.2
Once the meeting has been declared wet, are rear facing red LED light must be fitted and
operational. The light must be fitted to the motorcycle and in a position that is visible to any
following rider and be of a minimum size of
25mm and maximum of 45mm



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[Henk]

The one that strikes me as being the biggest pain in the arse is the rear sprocket bit. Drilling a couple of bolts and cable tying on a bicycle lamp should be easy enough.

[Grumph]

The one that strikes me as being the biggest pain in the arse is the rear sprocket bit. Drilling a couple of bolts and cable tying on a bicycle lamp should be easy enough.

I'm just waiting for the first bike brought down by a camera on the track and the possible level of engineering in the attatchment of taillights won't be any better....

i see on tardme there are solar powered taillights available - no use at all on a dark day at Greymouth lol.

[Skunk]

The tail light rule will apply to Buckets in some cases. It was worded with the intention of peddy bike tail lights being used.
Last round of the Bridgestone Winter Series had many of them fitted and the meeting was declared wet.

Chain guard rule means I have some work to do...

[jellywrestler]

I'm assuming there will be a supply of cheap all day battery stick on lights were intended by this rule (the wording seems to indicate you must use a 25mm or bigger singular LED which may be more than a little problematic, but not the wording intention I guess).

On a gloomy winter day with heaps of spray & slow & crashed bikes on a fast track like Ruapuna, maybe this isn't such a dumb idea.

pm Graeme Billington they can be had for about $15 i'm told

[F5 Dave]

Suitable bike lights available from the WH, but I got a handful from Alibaba. Which I'll be selling at ridicuoulsly inflated prices at the next wet event & possiblty not at all to Rich with his fancy wet weather tyres, - but hes a tredlie from way back so I expect he'll be sorted.

As we are starting to understand these rules will apply to everyone at certain events & every event at a later stage (like 2014).

I've drilled the calliper bolts on the 50 that weren't done.


Just need to sort some sharkfins.

[RMS eng]

Suitable bike lights available from the WH, but I got a handful from Alibaba. Which I'll be selling at ridicuoulsly inflated prices at the next wet event & possiblty not at all to Rich with his fancy wet weather tyres, - but hes a tredlie from way back so I expect he'll be sorted.

As we are starting to understand these rules will apply to everyone at certain events & every event at a later stage (like 2014).

I've drilled the calliper bolts on the 50 that weren't done.


Just need to sort some sharkfins.

Hi Dave
i have just the part for you,i have made 15 chain shark fin kits that will fit RS125,FXR to GSXR600,they come with all mounting brackets screws ect,will be around $35.00 made from 4mm alloy not 2-3mm junk like some others.6 sold already.

chris RMS engineering 09 817 9500

[Drew]

I'm loving the idea of people drilling holes in their swingarm to fit these "sharkfins". Deano was all set to do it, I pointed out that clamping them is a better bet, dunno what way he went though.

If buckets are running a National points series, they will have to comply with all the rules, and any street meetings.

[Pumba]

And to run at Mt Welly. The organising committee has made that call.

Personally I dint have to much of an issue drilling into my FXR swingarm. Have you seen how fucking solid those things are! If it was a lighter alli swingarm or something similar I would prob be having second thoughts.

[Drew]

And to run at Mt Welly. The organising committee has made that call.

Personally I dint have to much of an issue drilling into my FXR swingarm. Have you seen how fucking solid those things are! If it was a lighter alli swingarm or something similar I would prob be having second thoughts.You're lucky on the chair too. Can put a flashy red light hidden away so it can only be seen when it's on. Looks flash as like an F1 car!

[jasonu]

Hi Dave
i have just the part for you,i have made 15 chain shark fin kits that will fit RS125,FXR to GSXR600,they come with all mounting brackets screws ect,will be around $35.00 made from 4mm alloy not 2-3mm junk like some others.6 sold already.

chris RMS engineering 09 817 9500

Yeah I'll buy six. Jus send me your CC number and the password and ship them to Nigeria OK

[Rick 52]

Hi Dave
i have just the part for you,i have made 15 chain shark fin kits that will fit RS125,FXR to GSXR600,they come with all mounting brackets screws ect,will be around $35.00 made from 4mm alloy not 2-3mm junk like some others.6 sold already.

chris RMS engineering 09 817 9500

I will take two please, if your passing Mt Welly tomorrow I'm sure you could sell more..

[F5 Dave]

Ok Chris, put one aside for us, hmm maybe two.

[koba]

I'm loving the idea of people drilling holes in their swingarm to fit these "sharkfins".


Why?


.......

[Henk]

Welded mine on.
Steel angle bracket to mount the chunk of choping board I stole off the wife.

[Pumba]

Welded mine on.
Steel angle bracket to mount the chunk of choping board I stole off the wife.

Pics of that would be good.

[Hardstyle-haz]

I will be making a fancy little circuit for LEDs on my tail piece to make a cool looking pattern (or possibly using red CCFL tubing - looks like lightsabers).
If anyone wants a cool little custom lighting circuit put on their tailpiece, let me know :)

-Battery operated (sealed box with switch)
-100% custom
-LED or CCFL


I can do something a little more custom than just that if you want something crazy too.

[Henk]

If you are going down this road I'd stick with the LEDs, the CCFL approach may be a little less crash proof.

[Hardstyle-haz]

If you are going down this road I'd stick with the LEDs, the CCFL approach may be a little less crash proof.


Yeah, you aren't wrong there.
Definitely suggest LEDs. lightweight, safer, easier for me to wire up ;)

[F5 Dave]

This is wot I got

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bicycle-Cycling-Laser-Tail-Light-3-Different-flash-5-LED-Bike-safety-light-100-Brand-New/685764640.html


$2.69US ea free shipping.

I got a couple of spares so they'll be $50 on raceday if its wet:lol:

May be slightly large lengthways, but if someone actually bitches I'll add some duct tape.

[ellipsis]

May be slightly large lengthways, but if someone actually bitches I'll add some duct tape.

...over their mouth?...

[F5 Dave]

I was going to add something like that, but it didn't come. Bling for sir!:lol:

[RMS eng]

I will take two please, if your passing Mt Welly tomorrow I'm sure you could sell more..

photo of the sprocket shark fins i have for sale $35.00 in black when done $39.00,sorry Rick have lost your number if you still need one just give me a call,post in Auckland $5.50288159288160

[Drew]

photo of the sprocket shark fins i have for sale $35.00 in black when done $39.00,sorry Rick have lost your number if you still need one just give me a call,post in Auckland $5.50Might wanna read the rule again before you send any out. Where are the 'rounded edges'?

[RMS eng]

I was going to add something like that, but it didn't come. Bling for sir!:lol:

8mm alloy on the front edge, would that cut you,do you have a file,has to be better than the cut up coke can you two would use.have a nice day,

[F5 Dave]

Think you quoted the wrong post, that's my trick. They look good Chris. I cut mine on the mill at work but slots the other direction. Lucky on my bike a flat plate will work.

[RMS eng]

Think you quoted the wrong post, that's my trick. They look good Chris. I cut mine on the mill at work but slots the other direction. Lucky on my bike a flat plate will work.

my bad,just having some fun.looking to make thousands from them.

[jasonu]

my bad,just having some fun.looking to make thousands from them.

Tui anyone...

[F5 Dave]

I was going to say I'll bring in a boatload of these $4 LED lights & once the rush is over be able to retire to Cannons Creek (the Otara of Wgtn).

[Drew]

8mm alloy on the front edge, would that cut you,do you have a file,has to be better than the cut up coke can you two would use.have a nice day,
Funny you should say that. Al has made a couple already for people. With the required 'rounded edges'.

[300weatherby]

I was going to say I'll bring in a boatload of these $4 LED lights & once the rush is over be able to retire to Cannons Creek (the Otara of Wgtn).

Cannons Creek?!, you must be a coconut!, did some work for Housing Corp in Cannons Creek East a few years back, turned down the next contract there......

[F5 Dave]

Yeah we're all being sarcastic. It's subtle, try keep up.

[jasonu]

Cannons Creek (the Otara of Wgtn).

I thought that was Porrirua...

[jasonu]

Cannons Creek?!, you must be a coconut!, did some work for Housing Corp in Cannons Creek East a few years back, turned down the next contract there......


Yeah we're all being sarcastic. It's subtle, try keep up.

Well he is right about one thing Dave, you are a coconut.

[F5 Dave]

I thought that was Porrirua...

Look on a map. its the scungy wrong side of the tracks of Porrirua