Al-Qaeda terrorists in NZ

[awa355]

Okay you dung eating towelheads, John Donkey is onto you lot. :Oi:

Who here has been to Yemen lately?

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/18270084/key-admits-terrorists-training-in-new-zealand/

Apparently these latest threats to our decent God loving society are among us.

Thank God for electronic spying technology. All eavesdropping, bugging, etc :bs:is justified now. :bash:

[unstuck]

Yep, been here for awhile. I related a story on here a while ago about a couple of van loads of ragheads attempting to hijack me in the middle of Gore about 10yrs ago.:ar15::ar15:

[98tls]

:eek:Why doesnt key just get on his knees and give Obama a blowjob.

[buggerit]

Yep, been here for awhile. I related a story on here a while ago about a couple of van loads of ragheads attempting to hijack me in the middle of Gore about 10yrs ago.:ar15::ar15:

Sure it wasnt nuns?:innocent:never know what you missed:shit:;)

[unstuck]

Sure it wasnt nuns?:innocent:never know what you missed:shit:;)

Damn sure it was not nuns, all raghead males. With one head honcho in the back who expected me to kiss his hand, but apparently he was offended when I told him to fuck his camel.:whistle:

[scissorhands]

I had a nice kebab yesterday
Its ramadan ATM
Ramadan is not in spellcheck;)

[SPman]

Key is a low life arsehole who is getting more and more desperate, and the more desperate he gets, the more fucking lying bullshit spills out his orifices!

:eek:Why doesnt key just get on his knees and give Obama a blowjob. why doesn't he just fuck off to the states, where his kids go to school anyway. doesn't he also have a US passport?

[awa355]

Yep, been here for awhile. I related a story on here a while ago about a couple of van loads of ragheads attempting to hijack me in the middle of Gore about 10yrs ago.:ar15::ar15:

They were probably looking for the Gore airfield. ;) You haven't any tall buildings in Gore have you?.

[unstuck]

They were probably looking for the Gore airfield. ;) You haven't any tall buildings in Gore have you?.

Yep, I think the Cremota mill is 4 stories.:msn-wink:

[unstuck]

Would be an ideal country to set up something like that here though, the spy network are too busy with dot kim to notice.:eek5:

[Akzle]

Would be an ideal country to set up something like that here though, the spy network are too busy with dot kim to notice.:eek5:

why do you think i live in a cave up in the hills?

Derp derp ala!

[awa355]

why do you think i live in a cave up in the hills?

Derp derp ala!

Osama Bin ladin lived in a cave, You go to the top of Donkeys hit list.

You probably think that funny post in the ground above you is recording seismic movements. :eek:

[unstuck]

Baruch Hashem Adonai.........:devil2:

[Maha]

I saw one up here at Countdown buying a rather large amount of Broccoli :confused:

[unstuck]

I saw one up here at Countdown buying a rather large amount of Broccoli :confused:

Brain food. Shit, maybe they are starting to use their brains. Thats a worry.:msn-wink:

[Maha]

Brain food. Shit, maybe they are starting to use their brains. Thats a worry.:msn-wink:

Jihad against fluffy green vegetables I suspect.

[unstuck]

Jihad against fluffy green vegetables I suspect.

The bastard goat shaggars, leave our vegies alone.:angry2:

[Maha]

The bastard goat shaggars, leave our vegies alone.:angry2:

If you see a bag of unattended Coleslaw?..........Run!

[unstuck]

Phew, its only cock shaped vegies and fruit.:shutup:...http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/12/10/the-fatwa-against-women-touching-bananas-and-other-stupid-islamic-orders.html

[Akzle]

You probably think that funny post in the ground above you is recording seismic movements. :eek:

Noooononono.
They wanted to put a cellphone tower up (we have fibre right here....)
and i was all liek 'fuuuuck that. You put it up, ill fill it with buckshot'

they didnt build a tower here.

[mashman]

:eek:Why doesnt key just get on his knees and give Obama a blowjob.

Coz it didn't work last time and he ain't dumb enough to do that again... is he?

[mashman]

what I would like to know is 1) how he knows this. @) Why haven't they been arrested.

[unstuck]

Noooononono.
They wanted to put a cellphone tower up (we have fibre right here....)
and i was all liek 'fuuuuck that. You put it up, ill fill it with buckshot'

they didnt build a tower here.

And they listened, wow you must be scarier than I thought.:shifty:

[TLDV8]

what I would like to know is 1) how he knows this. @) Why haven't they been arrested.

They are probably waiting for hard evidence like the alleged perpetrator having burnt lips.

[T.W.R]

what I would like to know is

He's a cornered rat flinging curve balls to distract peeps from the lies & bullshit hes been found out on :msn-wink:



1) how he knows this.

GCSB told him so :sherlock:


2) Why haven't they been arrested.

Can't arrest a ghost or red herring :blip:

[SMOKEU]

Allahu snackbar! Those snackbarists won't stop until they destroy us.

This is the beginning of the end of our country as we know it. Groups like Jabhat al Nusra are already active in Australia.

[Akzle]

And they listened, wow you must be scarier than I thought.:shifty:

lets just put it this way.

If you saw me in my flared denims and tie die, youd fuck off too.

[Akzle]

Allahu snackbar! Those snackbarists won't stop until they destroy us.

This is the beginning of the end of our country as we know it. Groups like Jabhat al Nusra are already active in Australia.

youre a fucking moron.

That is all.

[unstuck]

lets just put it this way.

If you saw me in my flared denims and tie die, youd fuck off too.

Nah, Id hit you up for a joint.:Punk:

[SMOKEU]

youre a fucking moron.

That is all.

You've got your head buried in sand so deep you can't see what is happening.

[Akzle]

You've got your head buried in sand so deep you can't see what is happening.

no, its this towel on my head, sometimes it slips down covering my eyes...

Fucking national voter. Fuck off back to africa and moan about shit there. Or give me your address, ill tell them down at the mosque and we can carbomb you, give you something to actually fuken moan about.

[mashman]

They are probably waiting for hard evidence like the alleged perpetrator having burnt lips.

Wouldn't that be key after having his mouth rodgered by obummy? Maybe it's key... his trips overseas must be to resport in to his AQ contact. It would explain how he knows.


He's a cornered rat flinging curve balls to distract peeps from the lies & bullshit hes been found out on :msn-wink:

GCSB told him so :sherlock:

Can't arrest a ghost or red herring :blip:

Ahhhh if only. Then again they're a much of a much. 61 votes, 61 villains.

Pics or it nev.... achually no, I take that back, along with my last mouth full of food.

Of course you can... loads of folk are banged up for shit they didn't do :D

[Akzle]

Nah, Id hit you up for a joint.:Punk:

*with a bong in one hand, shotgun in the other and muttering about how beautiful everything would be...

If it werent for all the damn bats!

[Smifffy]

You've got your head buried in sand so deep you can't see what is happening.

Get your head out of that sand, you don't know where it's been...

[SMOKEU]

no, its this towel on my head, sometimes it slips down covering my eyes...

Fucking national voter. Fuck off back to africa and moan about shit there. Or give me your address, ill tell them down at the mosque and we can carbomb you, give you something to actually fuken moan about.

I'm not a National voter or supporter, but John Key is right about the terrorist threat we face.

[The Reibz]

Pretty sure the guy who cooks my Kebabs is one of these cunts...

[mashman]

Pretty sure the guy who cooks my Kebabs is one of these cunts...

Not a fuckin chance... there's only 1 person who can be PM.

[awa355]

I'm not a National voter or supporter, but John Key is right about the terrorist threat we face.

I think a potential terrorist threat is always there. Its just that Key doesn't come across as being particulaly upfront and honest about anything these days.

[Akzle]

John Key is right about the terrorist threat we face.

mmmmmmmmmmmmm... no.



Trust me, as a half arab motherfucker, being related to at least several fairly arab motherfuckers (and at least one known 'freedom fighter')
we have no interest in your ungodly, immoral, jesus worshipping infidel country.

[Road kill]

I saw one up here at Countdown buying a rather large amount of Broccoli :confused:

Oh no,weapons of mass destruction.

Countdown might be a storage area,,somebody should put in camera's.

We can all thank god Jon is onto it:eek:

[Swoop]

NZ is a perfect place to set up a cell and anyone who believes we do not have an Al Kayeeeda representative here is deluded.

The justification to enact and support the gcsb looking into private individuals is rather bizarre since that can be done already, under other laws.

[T.W.R]

Pics or it nev.... achually no, I take that back, along with my last mouth full of food.



How's that mouthful of food....coz I found out how he found out; was whispered in his ear during a asylum application ;)

[Akzle]

NZ is a perfect place to set up a cell and anyone who believes we do not have an Al Kayeeeda representative here is deluded.


a cell for what? Blowing up busses that dont run on time?

[The Reibz]

Is anyone able to prove to me with out reasonable doubt that Al-Gayda actually exists?

[unstuck]

Is anyone able to prove to me with out reasonable doubt that Al-Gayda actually exists?

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[The Reibz]

Well done cunt... Well done...

[unstuck]

Well done cunt... Well done...

Cheers window licker.:2thumbsup

[awa355]

I listened to a guy with a big nose and a tea towel wrapped around his head talking on a cell phone while in Macca's the other day. Mentioned a training weekend outside of Waiouru at the end of the month. He called the other guy Mr Iti. :psst:

He ordered a Big Camel burger. Thats when I knew. They are everywhere. :grouphug:

[mashman]

*with a bong in one hand, shotgun in the other and muttering about how beautiful everything would be...

Bit tricky to reload either... you didn't really think that through did ya.

[mashman]

How's that mouthful of food....coz I found out how he found out; was whispered in his ear during a asylum application ;)

That is pretty disturbing... donkey must have wept at his passing.

[Drew]

You all realise that the terrorists need money aye?

A good friend of mine works for the BNZ, I doubt he's allowed to tell me all the stuff that gets non approval and sent on to the cops, but you'd be surprised at it none the less.

[5150]

:eek:Why doesnt key just get on his knees and give Obama a blowjob.

I think you will find that he not only is already blowing Obama, but he is also coupling his balls at the same time with both hands :sick:

[Akzle]

Bit tricky to reload either... you didn't really think that through did ya.

im wearing flared trousers, what do you think?

[Flip]

More power to the people in power!

What the fuck did you expect voting in a irrational right wing national goverment?

[Akzle]

[IMG]

you seem to have a lot of gay shit on hand. (pun intended) Is there something youre not telling us?

[unstuck]

you seem to have a lot of gay shit on hand. (pun intended) Is there something youre not telling us?

Fucken heaps I aint telling you. I am comfortable with my sexuality though.;)

[T.W.R]

Is anyone able to prove to me with out reasonable doubt that Al-Gayda actually exists?

They're producing kids books :blink:

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[mashman]

im wearing flared trousers, what do you think?

You better be wearing a belt too or reloading will be the least of yer worries with yer trousers at yer ankles and not being able to pull 'em up.

[Akzle]

You better be wearing a belt too or reloading will be the least of yer worries with yer trousers at yer ankles and not being able to pull 'em up.

ahhhh. Im just fukin wit ya.














I dont wear pants.

[Mooch]

Okay you dung eating towelheads, John Donkey is onto you lot. :Oi:

Who here has been to Yemen lately?

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/18270084/key-admits-terrorists-training-in-new-zealand/

Apparently these latest threats to our decent God loving society are among us.

Thank God for electronic spying technology. All eavesdropping, bugging, etc :bs:is justified now. :bash:

Don't be too naïve . Been here before


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=149118

[mashman]

ahhhh. Im just fukin wit ya.

I dont wear pants.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDJflQfNUE8

[BigAl]

Everyone knows that all the Islam pricks are driving taxis in Invercargill.

[oldrider]

Everyone knows that all the Islam pricks are driving taxis in Invercargill.

How many other people think the same as he does but (wisely) keep it to themselves, we don't have thought police here yet but ... :soon:

Couldn't care less who or what they are but get sick to death of how precious they act in situations like that Invercargill taxi business!

[SMOKEU]

mmmmmmmmmmmmm... no.



Trust me, as a half arab motherfucker, being related to at least several fairly arab motherfuckers (and at least one known 'freedom fighter')
we have no interest in your ungodly, immoral, jesus worshipping infidel country.

This is not a race issue. Don't confuse it for one. This is about religion.

There are ragheads from all races; Pakis, gooks, even whites.

[unstuck]

This is not a race issue. Don't confuse it for one. This is about religion.

There are ragheads from all races; Pakis, gooks, even whites.

By God(pun intended) you actually made a valid point.:gob:

[Akzle]

This is not a race issue. Don't confuse it for one. This is about religion.

There are ragheads from all races; Pakis, gooks, even whites.

good call,
but replace 'arab' with 'islamist' and my point stands.
The only people that give a fuck about nz is the yanks.

[unstuck]

good call,
but replace 'arab' with 'islamist' and my point stands.
The only people that give a fuck about nz is the yanks.

What have we got that the yanks want, they usually dont take an interest in a country unless there is something they want. True about the arab islamist comment too.:niceone:

[SMOKEU]

The only people that give a fuck about nz is the yanks.

But for how long?

[oldrider]

Not all Islamic Muslims are terrorists by a very large margin but the majority of world wide terrorists are Muslim extremist fanatics!

If not there already their intention is to come to a country near you, especially if your country has been involved in countering their advances elsewhere!

Where did I hear that? ... Osama Bin laden himself on one of his video rants! ... don't kid yourself that anything will change, just because he is dead! :facepalm:

[T.W.R]

Not all Islamic Muslims are terrorists by a very large margin but the majority of world wide terrorists are Muslim extremist fanatics!



MMM??? what kind of Muslim huh there's more than one type you know, sunni or shiite do tell ;)

[Akzle]

Not all Islamic Muslims are terrorists by a very large margin but the majority of world wide terrorists are Muslim extremist fanatics!


No i think youll find, historically and presently, jews and christians to be the war mongerers.

[SMOKEU]

No i think youll find, historically and presently, jews and christians to be the war mongerers.

These days it's not usually the Christians starting the scraps, it's mainly the jihadists.

[Akzle]

But for how long?

probably until nz is bought and paid for and the 49th state of us.

We wont do free trade with anyone who is anti israel, but jews, holy shit, sell them the country...

[Akzle]

These days it's not usually the Christians starting the scraps, it's mainly the jihadists.

bwaaaaahahahah.
Yes, theyve clearly been involved in a 15year land based military occupation of a nation state on the other side of the planet, so i can see your point.

O. Wait on.
Nope, jews again.

[Oscar]

probably until nz is bought and paid for and the 49th state of us.

We wont do free trade with anyone who is anti israel, but jews, holy shit, sell them the country...

Alaska is the 49th State.

[unstuck]

Would have to be the 51st state.:wacko:

[Banditbandit]

These days it's not usually the Christians starting the scraps, it's mainly the jihadists.

Bwhahahahahah .. tell me the religion of the people who invaded these countries ?

Vietnam
Afghanistan
Panama
Iraq
Grenada
El Salvadore

....

Tell me - how many countries have been invaded by Islamic troops ??? Iraq at the time Saddams Hussein invaded Kuwait was ruled by a secular nominally Socialist Government ... called the B'arth party ... Saddam also attacked Iran ... so both of those wars the aggressor was not Muslim ...

[blackdog]

In a recent survey, New Zealanders were asked if they thought there were too many foriegners living here.

18% replied Yes.

82% replied ยามเช้านะคับพี่ ป้า .

[awa355]

Bwhahahahahah .. tell me the religion of the people who invaded these countries ?

Vietnam
Afghanistan
Panama
Iraq
Grenada
El Salvadore

....

Tell me - how many countries have been invaded by Islamic troops ??? Iraq at the time Saddams Hussein invaded Kuwait was ruled by a secular nominally Socialist Government ... called the B'arth party ... Saddam also attacked Iran ... so both of those wars the aggressor was not Muslim ...

Just doing " Gods" work. I believe the list of countries attacked by America since WW2 is far more than the six listed. Had read a number, of 29 countries.

I wonder if God is a hypocrite? His fan clubs sure are.

[unstuck]

Just doing " Gods" work. I believe the list of countries attacked by America since WW2 is far more than the six listed. Had read a number, of 29 countries.

I wonder if God is a hypocrite? His fan clubs sure are.

Nah, just the ones doing "works" in his name.:innocent:

[T.W.R]

....

Tell me - how many countries have been invaded by Islamic troops ???

Every country the Ottoman empire controlled :lol:

Everything from Kuwait , Egypt through to Albania & Bosnia

[blackdog]

Nah, just the ones doing "works" in his name.:innocent:

I reckon I'm one of them. Everytime I do something the wife screams 'For god's sake!'.

[unstuck]

I reckon I'm one of them. Everytime I do something the wife screams 'For god's sake!'.

:2thumbsup Im hearin ya.:pinch:

[Naki Rat]

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Communists, terrorists....... the more things change, the more the Nat's stay the same :rolleyes:

[SMOKEU]

Bwhahahahahah .. tell me the religion of the people who invaded these countries ?

Vietnam
Afghanistan
Panama
Iraq
Grenada
El Salvadore

....

Tell me - how many countries have been invaded by Islamic troops ??? Iraq at the time Saddams Hussein invaded Kuwait was ruled by a secular nominally Socialist Government ... called the B'arth party ... Saddam also attacked Iran ... so both of those wars the aggressor was not Muslim ...

When the Americans "invade" other countries, it's not because of their religious beliefs; those are political decisions.

Since the start of Islam, Muslims have gone around pillaging, raping and killing all along the Middle East and North Africa in order to spread their hatred and violence for everyone who is a non believer. They have invaded more foreign lands than the USA ever has, and blood continues to spill due to their primitive beliefs. Do we really want scenes like these in our country?

Have you seen how these people act? Have you seen Sharia law in action? People are often beheaded or stoned to death for trivial matters such as believing in the wrong sect of snackbarism (Sunni vs Shiite). There are videos of this sort of thing released on the internet on a daily basis. You'll soon lose count of the number of execution videos and bombings, all in the name of Islam if you start looking.

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[mashman]

When the Americans "invade" other countries, it's not because of their religious beliefs; those are political decisions.

Since the start of Islam, Muslims have gone around pillaging, raping and killing all along the Middle East and North Africa in order to spread their hatred and violence for everyone who is a non believer. They have invaded more foreign lands than the USA ever has, and blood continues to spill due to their primitive beliefs. Do we really want scenes like these in our country?

Have you seen how these people act? Have you seen Sharia law in action? People are often beheaded or stoned to death for trivial matters such as believing in the wrong sect of snackbarism (Sunni vs Shiite). There are videos of this sort of thing released on the internet on a daily basis. You'll soon lose count of the number of execution videos and bombings, all in the name of Islam if you start looking.


At least they've made extreme justice legal... I agree with ya on them having extreme laws for "trivial" shit, but in the same token, so does Whitey. Once upon a time Whitey did exactly the same thing... probably why Islam pushes back.

[Akzle]

When the Americans "invade" other countries, it's not because of their religious beliefs; those are political decisions.

Since the start of Islam, Muslims have gone around pillaging, raping and killing all along the Middle East and North Africa...

youve heard of this wee thing called 'the crusades', yeah?
Or, the 'spanish mild questioning' (it got out of hand and they ended up calling it an inquisition.)?

As i repd you: i was avoiding it, but now you get red. Astounding ignorance. And whats with 'our ' country. Back to africa for you.

And maybe your unfamiliar with the history of british east afric/err, kenya?

Yeah nah, whiteys gone round the world civilising up all the dark folk for god and king...

[unstuck]

Yeah nah, whiteys gone round the world civilising up all the dark folk for greed and ego in the name of God and king...

Fixed.:Punk::Punk:

[gwigs]

[QUOTE=Akzle;1130591653]
Or, the 'spanish mild questioning' (it got out of hand and they ended up calling it an inquisition.)?

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Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition...

[Banditbandit]

Every country the Ottoman empire controlled :lol:

Everything from Kuwait , Egypt through to Albania & Bosnia

Bwhahahaha .. Yes .. but you forgot Spain ..

[Banditbandit]

When the Americans "invade" other countries, it's not because of their religious beliefs; those are political decisions.

... You'll soon lose count of the number of execution videos and bombings, all in the name of Islam if you start looking.



I'm terribly sorry - where did I say that Islam was perfect ????

[T.W.R]

Bwhahahaha .. Yes .. but you forgot Spain ..


:lol: there's a reason for that :bash: mainly because they never held Spain :lol:

[Banditbandit]

:lol: there's a reason for that :bash: mainly because they never held Spain :lol:

Yes, sorry. A bit of brain fade on a Monday morning- the Moors were in Spain well previous to the Ottoman Empire ...

[Smifffy]

http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/al-qaeda-offered-charter-school-contract-after-showing-proficiency-in-training-new-zealanders/

[awa355]

http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/al-qaeda-offered-charter-school-contract-after-showing-proficiency-in-training-new-zealanders/

The al Qaeda spokeperson quoted at the end was probably the only one in that article that spoke the truth. Thats why he could not be understood. Between their charter school and the one that Destiny church want to build in sth Auckland, ( they will appeal and build, because God wants this school ).

The 'Civilian' doesn't mention the other charter school aspirants in the Urewera's who have also applied to set up a charter school.


our future education system is in good hands. :oi-grr:

[Banditbandit]

The al Qaeda spokeperson quoted at the end was probably the only one in that article that spoke the truth. Thats why he could not be understood. Between their charter school and the one that Destiny church want to build in sth Auckland, ( they will appeal and build, because God wants this school ).

The 'Civilian' doesn't mention the other charter school aspirants in the Urewera's who have also applied to set up a charter school.


our future education system is in good hands. :oi-grr:

Hang on ... the fact that the Tamaki Church was declined shows that in fact our education system is in good hands ...
(MInd you, I don't trust the politicians involvd in all this ...)

(And you do realize that The Civilian is a spoof - a satire - a joke ??? You do - don't you?)

[awa355]

Of course I do, Just taking the piss a step further. :eek5: I may have been part of KB for a while, but do have a wee bit of sanity left.

[SMOKEU]

At least they've made extreme justice legal... I agree with ya on them having extreme laws for "trivial" shit, but in the same token, so does Whitey. Once upon a time Whitey did exactly the same thing... probably why Islam pushes back.

See below.


youve heard of this wee thing called 'the crusades', yeah?
Or, the 'spanish mild questioning' (it got out of hand and they ended up calling it an inquisition.)?

As i repd you: i was avoiding it, but now you get red. Astounding ignorance. And whats with 'our ' country. Back to africa for you.

And maybe your unfamiliar with the history of british east afric/err, kenya?


Yeah nah, whiteys gone round the world civilising up all the dark folk for god and king...

I never said that white people were never fucked up a few hundred years ago. Whites (both Christians and non Christians) have since developed better strategies to resolve conflict, and violence has decreased in that respect. Also, people had much less scientific understanding than they do today, hence all the witch burnings and other such lulz.

Islam is trying to take the world back to the dark ages with their primitive and often barbaric beliefs. Go on bestgore or theync and see what kind of shit they do, then tell me how peaceful they are. Ignoring the facts doesn't make the problem magically disappear.

Rape victims are often stoned or beaten to death for having sex outside of marriage.
People are beheaded for blasphemy.
Drinking alcohol is punishable by lashings or imprisonment.
Acid is thrown into the eyes of school girls.
Women are treated as property. A man may have several wives, but a woman would be murdered for the same thing.
Basic human rights are a joke.

Now most Muslims are not extremists, and many are a victim of their own circumstances, but just look at what is happening in the Middle East and North Africa.


I'm terribly sorry - where did I say that Islam was perfect ????

You never did.

[Oscar]

See below.



I never said that white people were never fucked up a few hundred years ago. Whites (both Christians and non Christians) have since developed better strategies to resolve conflict, and violence has decreased in that respect. Also, people had much less scientific understanding than they do today, hence all the witch burnings and other such lulz.

Islam is trying to take the world back to the dark ages with their primitive and often barbaric beliefs. Go on bestgore or theync and see what kind of shit they do, then tell me how peaceful they are. Ignoring the facts doesn't make the problem magically disappear.

Rape victims are often stoned or beaten to death for having sex outside of marriage.
People are beheaded for blasphemy.
Drinking alcohol is punishable by lashings or imprisonment.
Acid is thrown into the eyes of school girls.
Women are treated as property. A man may have several wives, but a woman would be murdered for the same thing.
Basic human rights are a joke.

Now most Muslims are not extremists, and many are a victim of their own circumstances, but just look at what is happening in the Middle East and North Africa.



You never did.

Do you hold all Christians responsible for the troubles in Ulster?
Do you hold all Christians to the intolerance preached by the Westboro Church?

The things that you attribute to Islam are rare exceptions, not the rule.

[Akzle]

I never said that white people were never fucked up a few hundred years ago. Whites (both Christians and non Christians) have since developed better strategies to resolve conflict,
like...... war?



Islam is trying to take the world back to the dark ages with their primitive and often barbaric beliefs. Go on bestgore or theync and see what kind of shit they do, then tell me how peaceful they are. Ignoring the facts doesn't make the problem magically disappear.
i think relying on bestgore for a balanced worldview is somewhat misguided of you.
do you know any followers of islam?
i never espoused them as epitomes of peace. and for every beheading you find to piss and moan about, i could point to three "human rights jokes" committed in/by "civilised" countries.
heard of guantanamo bay?
familiar with JewSA "advanced interrogation techniques?"


Women are treated as property. A man may have several wives, but a woman would be murdered for the same thing.
dude, women are property.
persons are actually property. title, registered land.
and in "civilised" white law, it's only been very, very recently, that things like "marriage" have become something other than transferring ownership of a woman from her father, to the husband.

women are not equal "under the law", see the latest non-rape charge afforded the 30 something who raped the 13 year old.




Now most Muslims are not extremists, and many are a victim of their own circumstances, but just look at what is happening in the Middle East and North Africa.

for someone that talks a lot about africa, you're sure a long way from it... back home eh?

[98tls]

and many are a victim of their own circumstances,

Go live in England awhile,there an infestation worse than the fucking plague

[mashman]

See below.

I never said that white people were never fucked up a few hundred years ago. Whites (both Christians and non Christians) have since developed better strategies to resolve conflict, and violence has decreased in that respect. Also, people had much less scientific understanding than they do today, hence all the witch burnings and other such lulz.

Islam is trying to take the world back to the dark ages with their primitive and often barbaric beliefs. Go on bestgore or theync and see what kind of shit they do, then tell me how peaceful they are. Ignoring the facts doesn't make the problem magically disappear.

Rape victims are often stoned or beaten to death for having sex outside of marriage.
People are beheaded for blasphemy.
Drinking alcohol is punishable by lashings or imprisonment.
Acid is thrown into the eyes of school girls.
Women are treated as property. A man may have several wives, but a woman would be murdered for the same thing.
Basic human rights are a joke.

Now most Muslims are not extremists, and many are a victim of their own circumstances, but just look at what is happening in the Middle East and North Africa.



You never did.

Chechnya/Georgia, Serbs going after Muslims in Bosnia/Kosovo, Sierra Leone (Naughty Mrs Thatcher's son), Lebanon (Effectively stopped by Iran). Used to see all sorts of snuff videos from Russia, US, Czechoslovakia etc... Aye, squeaky clean whitey.

[Swoop]

I thought some of you might learn a bit from this piece:

4 August 2013: Islamic terrorism has more to do with cultural problems within the Islamic world and Arab cultures than with any “war between Islam and the rest of the world.” Islamic terrorism is actually an ancient problem. Consider that the word "assassin" comes from a group of very successful Islamic terrorists who existed a thousand years ago, who used drugs (hashish) to give suicide assassins a taste of paradise before sending out on missions that would get them killed. These guys were called "hashish eaters", and that word, when picked up by English speakers, emphasized the murder aspect, and was mispronounced as "assassin."

OK, so ruthless men have been using Islamic radicalism to create terrorists for a long time. No argument about that. But the cultural problems within the Arab world have more to do with the popularity of Islamic terrorism today than anything else. Non-Arab Moslems don’t have all the same problems and tend to suffer much less from Islamic terrorism. In Arab countries the cultural poison is so incurable that religion and terrorism seem a reasonable solution to the many problems. It’s not just a struggle between religious and secular reformers.

The result of all these ancient bad habits is a cultural crisis in the Arab world in particular and the Moslem world in general. The crisis is expressed by an abundance of corruption and a lack of economic, educational, and political performance. By whatever measure you wish to use, Nobel prizes, literacy rates, patents awarded, books published or translated, GDP growth, the Arabs have fallen behind the rest of the world. Part of the problem is the Arab tendency to blame outsiders and to avoid taking responsibility. Tolerating tyranny and resistance to change doesn't help either. Those attitudes are shifting and for most of the last decade the war in Iraq became the center of this cultural battle.

The exact nature of this lethal cultural miasma can best be described by enumerating the major components. Let’s start with the fact that most Arab countries are a patchwork of different tribes and groups, and Arab leaders survive by playing one group off against another. Loyalty is to one's group, not the nation. Most countries are dominated by a single group that is usually a minority (Bedouins in Jordan, Alawites in Syria, Sunnis in Iraq, Nejdis in Saudi Arabia). All of which means that leadership jobs are assigned not by merit but by loyalty and tribal affiliation. This continues in democratic Iraq, where political parties or powerful politicians strive to control individual police or army units.

Islamic schools favour rote memorization, especially of scripture. Most Islamic scholars are hostile to the concept of interpreting the Koran (considered the word of God as given to His prophet Mohammed). This has resulted in looking down on Western troops that will look something up that they don't know. Arabs prefer to fake it, and pretend it's all in their head. Improvisation and innovation is generally discouraged. Arab government organizations go by the book while Westerners are more likely to rewrite the book and thus be much more effective. Despite years of Western advice on this matter, many Arab officials stick with the old, less effective, traditions.

There is little middle management (like NCOs in the military). The “ruling class” (owners, officers or officials) and everyone else are treated like two different social castes and there is no effort to bridge the gap using what the West calls middle management. “The people” are treated harshly. Work accidents that would end the careers of Western managers, officers or officials are ignored in the Arab world and nobody cares.

This is slowly changing, with the steady growth of a proper NCO corps and middle management plus better management attitudes towards their subordinates. But the old ways often return, with disastrous effects on the morale and effectiveness of the average Arab.
Not surprisingly in Arab cultures the ruling class is despised by their subordinates, and this does not bother the leaders much at all. Many Arab leaders simply cannot understand how treating the subordinates (unless they are family) decently will have any benefit. This is another old tradition that dies hard.

Paranoia prevents adequate training. This is made worse by the habit of Arab tyrants insisting that their subordinate organizations have little contact with each other, thus insuring that no subordinate leader can became powerful enough to overthrow the top guy. Subordinate organizations are purposely kept from working together or communications on a large scale. Arab subordinate leaders don't have as broad a knowledge of what their subordinates leaders do as is the case with their Western counterparts.

Promotions are based more on political reliability than proficiency and efficiency. Arab leaders prefer to be feared, rather than respected, by their subordinates. This approach leads to poorly trained populations and low morale. A few rousing speeches about "Moslem brotherhood" before a national emergency boils over does little to repair the damage. Many, if not most, Arab leaders now know that the paranoia and parochialism are bad, but ancient traditions are hard to abandon.

Arab leaders often do not trust each other. While an American manager or officer can be reasonably confident that the others they work with will be competent and reliable, Arabs in similar situations seriously doubt that their peers will do their job on time or accurately.

This is an inefficient and sometimes fatal attitude. It's been difficult getting Arab leaders to change when it comes to trust.
Arab leaders consider it acceptable to lie to subordinates and allies in order to further their personal agenda. This had catastrophic consequences throughout Arab history and continues to make progress difficult. When called out on this behaviour, Arabs will assert that they were "misunderstood." This is still going on.

While Western American middle managers (and Westerners in general) are only too happy to impart their wisdom and skills to others (teaching is the ultimate expression of prestige), Arabs try to keep any technical information and manuals secret.

To Arabs, the value and prestige of an individual is based not on what he can teach, but on what he knows that no one else knows. This destructive habit is still around, despite years of American advisors patiently explaining why this is counterproductive.

While Westerners thrive on competition among themselves, Arab leaders avoid this as the loser would be humiliated. Better for everyone to fail together, than for competition to be allowed; even if it eventually benefits everyone. This attitude is still a factor in the Arab world.

Westerners are taught leadership and technology; Arabs are taught only technology. Leadership is given little attention as Arab leaders are assumed to know this by virtue of their social status as appointed leaders. The new generation of Arab leaders have been taught leadership, but for too many of them, this is an alien concept that they do not understand or really know what to do with.
Initiative is considered a dangerous trait in the Arab world. So subordinates prefer to fail rather than make an independent decision.

Large scale enterprises are micromanaged by senior leaders, who prefer to suffer defeat rather than lose control of their subordinates. Even worse, an Arab manager will not tell a Western counterpart why he cannot make the decision (or even that he cannot make it), leaving Western managers angry and frustrated because the Arabs won't make a decision. The Arab leaders simply will not admit that they do not have that authority. The new generation of Arab managers have been sent to Western management schools, but there's still not a lot of enthusiasm for initiative (which is seen as a decadent and dangerous Western import.)

Lack of initiative makes it difficult for Arabs to maintain modern equipment. Complex modern devices require on the spot maintenance, and that means delegating authority, information, and tools. Arab cultures avoid doing this and prefer to use easier to control central repair shops. This makes the timely maintenance of equipment difficult. Entrepreneurs, often non-Arab Moslems, often handle a lot of the maintenance. This is still a problem throughout the Middle East, where the oil rich nations have most of their non-government operations staffed by foreigners.

Security is maniacal. Everything even vaguely military or government related is top secret. While Western military and corporation promotion lists are routinely published, this rarely happens in Arab organizations. Officers and managers are suddenly transferred without warning to keep them from forging alliances or networks. Any team spirit among officials is discouraged.

All these traits were reinforced, from the 1950s to the 1990s, by Soviet advisors and admiration for the “success” of Soviet socialism and management practices. To the Russians, anything government related was secret, subordinates were scum, there was no functional middle management system, and everyone was paranoid about everyone else. These were not "communist" traits, but Russian customs that had existed for centuries and were adopted by the communists to make their dictatorship more secure from rebellion. Arab dictators avidly accepted this kind of advice, but are still concerned about how rapidly the communist dictatorships all came tumbling down between 1989 and 1991.

The Russian influence is still fondly remembered, because the Russians had developed some highly effective police state methods. This made it easier for the police and military to control a country, even if despicable methods were used. While these Russian techniques can work to hunt down terrorists in a police state, it doesn't work in any other useful endeavours and that’s the main reason the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991.

But where did the current crop of Islamic terrorists come from? Historically, a noticeable increase in violence by Islamic radicals occurred every three or four generations usually in response to corrupt and ineffective local government.

Most Islamic countries experienced it, and some got a more lethal dose than others. The terrorists almost always lost, usually when a powerful ruler in the area launched a major military operation against the population (usually a tribe or part of a province) that was supporting the terrorists. Much bloodshed ensued.

Today these measures would be described as genocide and war crimes. But in the past, the "massive retribution" approach worked and the terrorists disappeared. So the second lesson learned here is that what worked in the past won't work today because customs have changed. We have become kinder and gentler and must come up with different methods of dealing with terrorists. Where exactly did the current crop of Islamic terrorists come from?

Basically, they came from Saudi Arabia in particular and Arabia in general. The Wahhabi sect of Islam had always been among the most strict and intolerant as well as dominant in Arabia. The Saud family owed their power, in large part, to a 19th century alliance with the Wahhabi sect. Holy Warriors from the Wahhabi tribes provided the crucial muscle that enabled the Sauds to conquer Saudi Arabia and establish their kingdom 80 years ago.

The Sauds realized that the more reactionary attitudes of the Wahhabis would hurt the kingdom in the long run. Many Wahhabi clerics were opposed to modern technology (unless it was a weapon). Radio, automobiles and all manner of gadgets were resisted and the Sauds were constantly haggling with the Wahhabi clerics. Finally, in the 1970s, after a serious outbreak of Islamic terrorism the Sauds made a deal with the Wahhabi clerics.

The Wahhabis could control education in the kingdom and have their own "lifestyle police" to enforce proper Islamic standards on Saudis, in return for keeping Islamic terrorism under control. This was crucial in spawning the current outbreak of Islamic terrorism.

Another important element was the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979. The Wahhabi preachers saw this as an assault by communist atheists (which is what Islamic conservatives considered the Soviets) on an Islamic state. The Wahhabi declared jihad against Russia. Billions of dollars, and thousands of Arabs (most of them Saudis) went off to help the Afghans fight the Russians. The Pakistanis cooperated because at about the same time the generals running Pakistan had seized on Islamic conservatism as a cure for the corruption that was making the country ungovernable. The Wahhabis and their money were welcomed and exploited.

The Americans were there as well, as the "Afghan Freedom Fighters" were popular in the United States. Meanwhile most of the money and weapons were being supplied by the Saudis. In addition to guns, the Saudis also brought in Wahhabi preachers, to set up religious schools for the millions of Afghan refugees. Pakistanis were allowed to attend these schools as well.

The result was that the Pushtun tribes on both sides of the Afghan border, were radicalized with Wahabbi beliefs. At this point Saudi Arabia was also exporting billions of dollars, and thousands of Wahhabi preachers to many other Islamic countries in Asia and Africa. Some of that money went to Moslem communities in Europe and the Americas as well. But in the 1980s, Pakistan was where the Wahabbis were building a new generation of Islamic radicals. In the 1990s, Islamic radicals in the Pakistani military created the Taliban, by arming Afghan students in Wahhabi religious schools in Pakistan, providing some training and technical support and sending the lads off to end the civil war raging in Afghanistan.

The Wahhabi clerics also infected Pakistan and Afghanistan with many of their bad cultural habits and caused all sorts of misery. The Wahhabi opposes education and freedom for women as well as technical education in general. The Wahhabi tolerates technical progress they find useful but don’t encourage it. The same with many of the cultural norms that make the West prosperous while leaving the Arab world a backwater.

When the Taliban gained control of Afghanistan in the late 1990s the Pakistanis began to have second thoughts. In fact, by then the Pakistani generals and politicians had abandoned Islamic conservatism, for it had proved no solution to Pakistan’s problems.

Too late. When September 11, 2001 came along American troops engineered the overthrow of the Taliban government two months later. At that point the Pakistanis found Islamic terrorism had become entrenched among their Pushtun tribes and was spreading to urban areas. After al Qaeda was chased out of Afghanistan the terrorist group declared war on the Pakistani government, for siding with the Americans. That war continues, with al Qaeda losing but not yet destroyed.

Meanwhile back in Saudi Arabia the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003 set off the Islamic radicals in Saudi Arabia. While the Wahhabi religious establishment did not back the Islamic terrorists, it had to come out against Islamic terrorism once al Qaeda began making attacks inside Saudi Arabia. Within two years all the al Qaeda activity in Iraq, which mainly consisted of killing Iraqis, led to a sharp drop in the popularity of Islamic terrorism throughout the Moslem world. But, because of international media networks, Islamic terrorism was no longer a bunch of separate problems, occurring in different cycles. There was now one, worldwide, movement.

As in the past, the Islamic terrorist recruits came mainly from those who felt most oppressed. These days, that includes the young population in most Arab states, which are all run by dictators or monarchs. The dictators and kings don't want democracy and Islamic radicals consider democracy un-Islamic. So the only way to vote is to set off a bomb somewhere. That somewhere, it turned out, was not at home.

These Arab despots had equipped themselves with an efficient police state security apparatus, which has managed to shut down Islamic radicals wherever they have shown up in Moslem nations. That led to al Qaeda's campaign against Western nations. This was seen as an indirect way of bringing down Arab tyrants which al Qaeda now believed were being propped up by the Western infidels. The American invasion of Iraq forced the Islamic terrorists to rush home, and fight against an outbreak of democracy in their heartland. That led to the collapse of popular support for Islamic terrorists.

So how do you fight Islamic terrorism these days? Can't use the old ("kill 'em all") methods, so all you can do is keep the killers out of your own territory, and wait for the madness to die out naturally, as it has done many times before. Changing the poor and misgoverned Moslem nations that generate Islamic radicalism is another option. But that takes time as well, and the current wave of Islamic terrorism may die out before good government (and a lot less corruption) becomes common in the Arab world.

[Tigadee]

One person out of 4.5 million people tries to get (sounds like unsuccessfully) into a terrorist training camp in Pakistan, which probably will have a huge number of intelligence resources monitoring the country... That's why we need the GCSB bill?

BTW...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccnwzScp6bM

[oldrider]

One person out of 4.5 million people tries to get (sounds like unsuccessfully) into a terrorist training camp in Pakistan, which probably will have a huge number of intelligence resources monitoring the country... That's why we need the GCSB bill?

With any luck that one person might move in next door to you ... you will be able to thank John Key personally for letting you know in advance! :shifty:

[awa355]

With any luck that one person might move in next door to you ... you will be able to thank John Key personally for letting you know in advance! :shifty:

John Key wouldn't let you know. He would then approve spying on you because of your association with Allah Fallah next door.

[slofox]

Bugger. Sounds as though Key is finally onto me...

[Tigadee]

With any luck that one person might move in next door to you ... you will be able to thank John Key personally for letting you know in advance!

Yeah nah... <_<

With my luck, I'd get bombed by this person first, then he moves in next door because the property values in the neighbourhood had fallen as a result, then he makes a clean sweep of the other nearby properties and turns the entire area into a training camp for the Urewera 'freedom fighters'...


Bugger. Sounds as though Key is finally onto me...

I knew that avatar of yours indicated some sinister streak in you!!

[awa355]

Bugger. Sounds as though Key is finally onto me...


Didn't you know that your GPS serial number is on the Gcsb 'Identify & Track' list?. :Oops:

[GCSB Thought Police]

Didn't you know that your GPS serial number is on the Gcsb 'Identify & Track' list?. :Oops:

That is completely untrue and you would be very unwise to continue to make that claim.

[unstuck]

That is completely untrue and you would be very unwise to continue to make that claim.

Suck a fat one super spy.:motu:

[GCSB Thought Police]

Such an immature reaction.

[unstuck]

Such an immature reaction.

What can you expect from someone with the emotional maturity of a 14yr old on a good day.:devil2:

[mashman]

What can you expect from someone with the emotional maturity of a 14yr old on a good day.:devil2:

A nice tight arse at least.

[Banditbandit]

A nice tight arse at least.

While it might be fun to look at nice tight arses on 14 year olds, that path usually gets you put into the Milton Hilton - or maybe the Rolleston Sex Offenders Unit.

[mashman]

While it might be fun to look at nice tight arses on 14 year olds, that path usually gets you put into the Milton Hilton - or maybe the Rolleston Sex Offenders Unit.

heh... I was referring to the emotional maturity age and not the actual age you sick fuck.

[SMOKEU]

Go live in England awhile,there an infestation worse than the fucking plague

That's the reason I'm staying far away from that god forsaken hell hole.


Chechnya/Georgia, Serbs going after Muslims in Bosnia/Kosovo, Sierra Leone (Naughty Mrs Thatcher's son), Lebanon (Effectively stopped by Iran). Used to see all sorts of snuff videos from Russia, US, Czechoslovakia etc... Aye, squeaky clean whitey.

Most of the shit from Chechnya was done by snackbarists, as for the Serbs, they have to protect themselves somehow (although I don't know much about that, I haven't really researched it). Sierra Leone and Lebanon are run by niggers and sand niggers, respectively. It's what they do best.

You're right about the old snuff videos from Russia etc, I've seen them too. Those, however, are isolated incidents and not part of a global Jihad movement.


like...... war?

Sometimes war is unavoidable, but generally whites are more civilized than that.

i think relying on bestgore for a balanced worldview is somewhat misguided of you.
do you know any followers of islam?
i never espoused them as epitomes of peace. and for every beheading you find to piss and moan about, i could point to three "human rights jokes" committed in/by "civilised" countries.
heard of guantanamo bay?
familiar with JewSA "advanced interrogation techniques?"

I know a guy who is Muslim from Snackbaristan. He started showing me pics of hot white girls in bikinis, and I expected him to say something about stoning them under Sharia law, but instead he was going on about how hot they are and how he wants to fuck them. WTF is up with that? But he is a good cunt though to me, and I get along with him well.

You can't fight extremism with moderation. It just doesn't work (look at the invasion in Europe). If you saw the kind of shit that they do, you'd want to fuck them up too (with reference to Guantanamo Bay). Just recently I saw a video of a snackbarist forcing his 13 year old nephew to behead 2 people with a machete. What kind of sick fuck makes a child do shit like that?

dude, women are property.
persons are actually property. title, registered land.
and in "civilised" white law, it's only been very, very recently, that things like "marriage" have become something other than transferring ownership of a woman from her father, to the husband.

women are not equal "under the law", see the latest non-rape charge afforded the 30 something who raped the 13 year old.


Look at the human rights act. There's no equivalent under Islamic law.

for someone that talks a lot about africa, you're sure a long way from it... back home eh?

I went away from that place to escape from the niggers.


Do you hold all Christians responsible for the troubles in Ulster?
Do you hold all Christians to the intolerance preached by the Westboro Church?

The things that you attribute to Islam are rare exceptions, not the rule.

There are fucked up people from every race and religion. Christian extremists have been known to build bombs and blow up abortion clinics. Sikh extremists have done similar things. Look at all the mass shootings in the USA that seem to occur with alarming regularity.

But, also look at the scale of things. It's not just the odd Muslim that's an extremist, as this is part of a huge, somewhat organized global terror network which basically wants to destroy the non Islamic world. It's not just the odd bomb that goes off, but these are daily attacks designed to kill as many innocent people as possible. Not a single day goes by that there's not some new video on the internet of someone snackbaring someones head off, or the aftermath of a bomb in crowded market.

Going to war and killing an enemy is one thing, but why go out and murder innocent civilians all in the name of Allah? They bomb hospitals and kill the doctors so people can't even get basic medical treatment. Why is it that the vast majority of these acts of terrorism are committed by Muslims? Muslims make up around 1/6 of the world population, yet account for the majority of terrorist attacks. The blow up each others mosques daily, as the Sunnis hate the Shiites (and vice versa) as much as they hate non believers.

[Banditbandit]

heh... I was referring to the emotional maturity age and not the actual age you sick fuck.

Me ?? Sick fuck??? I'm not the one who linked "14 years of age" with "tight arse" in any context ...

[unstuck]

Its all that GCSB fuckers fault.:tugger:

[Akzle]

Me ?? Sick fuck??? I'm not the one who linked "14 years of age" with "tight arse" in any context ...

yes but you enjoyed repeating it, just a bit, eh...

Smokey, as rational as youre sounding, ill deal with your shit LATER.

[awa355]

While it might be fun to look at nice tight arses on 14 year olds, that path usually gets you put into the Milton Hilton - or maybe the Rolleston Sex Offenders Unit.

You have to admit to being a sex offender to get into a Sex Offenders unit. Then you get to spend all day talking to like minded people.

[mashman]

Me ?? Sick fuck??? I'm not the one who linked "14 years of age" with "tight arse" in any context ...

Really? I know what I meant... however you translated it a specific way :innocent:

[Banditbandit]

Really? I know what I meant... however you translated it a specific way :innocent:

What ?? Do you think I'm stupid enough to make an admission that might see me end up in Rolleston's sex offender unit ???