Not displaying plate properly

[baffa]

Just been pulled up. Apparently having a numberplate that is not mounted at the rear of the bike is illegal.
Bought the bike two weeks ago from Honda, it has a tail tidy, and the plate is tucked in under the tail over the front of the rear tyre.

Cop is apparently a biker himself, and insisted this is illegal, and have 2 weeks to sort it out.

Anyone else running a similar setup get pinged for this?

A little like this, but on a different angle:
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[unstuck]

That does not look visible with the tire in the way? Thought it had to be visible and readable? At least he gave you 2 weeks, thats a plus.:2thumbsup

[Vinz0r]

"A motorcycle, moped, tractor or trailer plate must be fixed securely in an upright position on the rear of the vehicle and displayed so that all the characters (numbers and letters) are clearly visible at all times."

That's from NZTA, seems a little vague but if your rear tyre is obscuring it then you might have to change it.

[Edit] Is your plate tilted? Because I think that's what the phrase 'upright' refers to.

[98tls]

Just been pulled up. Apparently having a numberplate that is not mounted at the rear of the bike is illegal.
Bought the bike two weeks ago from Honda, it has a tail tidy, and the plate is tucked in under the tail over the front of the rear tyre.

Cop is apparently a biker himself, and insisted this is illegal, and have 2 weeks to sort it out.

Anyone else running a similar setup get pinged for this?

A little like this, but on a different angle:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQYc2OXU6K5oPfSB8Rb1Y6OytbF-avfsgpnR2HBmIbVKFH57IQmHw

Have heard of others with a similar setup being pulled over,am guessing the Honda shop put a WOF on it when they sold it to you so i suppose its there problem to sort out.Ive a tail tidy set up on mine but theres no reason the plate cant be attached in the normal position.

[yod]

"A motorcycle, moped, tractor or trailer plate must be fixed securely in an upright position on the rear of the vehicle and displayed so that all the characters (numbers and letters) are clearly visible at all times."

That's from NZTA, seems a little vague but if your rear tyre is obscuring it then you might have to change it.

no, not vague, under the seat in front of the tyre is not the 'rear' of the vehicle

[The Reibz]

You will have to mail them proof that you have changed it, a photo wont be enough, you will need a reciept that you have actually paid some cunt to do something about it. Last cop that gave me compliance told me to ring the infringement bureau, bitch on the phone laughed at me and said I needed to send in the WOF form to get compliance. Must be fucking hard to look up vehicle rego in the police register or someshit. Would have taken 20 seconds to see the warrant had been gained.

Stupid thing to give you complicance for. Piece of shit should have just let you off

[yod]

You will have to mail them proof that you have changed it, a photo wont be enough, you will need a reciept that you have actually paid some cunt to do something about it. Last cop that gave me compliance told me to ring the infringement bureau, bitch on the phone laughed at me and said I needed to send in the WOF form to get compliance. Must be fucking hard to look up vehicle rego in the police register or someshit. Would have taken 20 seconds to see the warrant had been gained.

Stupid thing to give you complicance for. Piece of shit should have just let you off

Empathy. You don't have it.

[unstuck]

Can you not just call into the police station and show them once you have made the changes? Thats what I have done, no problems there.:2thumbsup

[98tls]

:laugh:Fuck this place is a riot,cunts moan all day about coppers not doing there job then there off again when they do...:laugh:

[unstuck]

:laugh:Fuck this place is a riot,cunts moan all day about coppers not doing there job then there off again when they do...:laugh:

Stupid humans are everywhere man.:shifty:

[baffa]

Can you not just call into the police station and show them once you have made the changes? Thats what I have done, no problems there.:2thumbsup

That sounds dangerously logical.

Will have to hit up Honda sometime next week.

Looking at the plate from the side of the bike, its halfway between the rear axle and the front of the rear tyre, so I guess it can be argued its not at the rear of the bike.

[unstuck]

That sounds dangerously logical.

Will have to hit up Honda sometime next week.

Looking at the plate from the side of the bike, its halfway between the rear axle and the front of the rear tyre, so I guess it can be argued its not at the rear of the bike.

Sometimes we complicate the simplest of things. As long as you have a compliance, you will be fine. Just means you will have to find somewhere else for the plate to sit, no biggy.:Punk::Punk:

[Akzle]

youre a fucking criminal. That cop should have impounded your shit and hauled your ass downtown for a bit of what-for.
Thank blue blazers that cop was exercising his discretion, and you basically got away with breaking the law, which is there for everyones benefit you know.

[The Reibz]

Can you not just call into the police station and show them once you have made the changes? Thats what I have done, no problems there.:2thumbsup

Nah mate my brother handed in the form for his WOF down at the copshop and got told they dont deal with it, its all gotta go through the cunts that deal with infringement in wellington. Just pay the fine and keep the plate how it is. YOLO

[scumdog]

:laugh:Fuck this place is a riot,cunts moan all day about coppers not doing there job then there off again when they do...:laugh:

:lol::lol::laugh::whistle:

'Must spread rep'

[scumdog]

Can you not just call into the police station and show them once you have made the changes? Thats what I have done, no problems there.:2thumbsup


"Somebody" high up has decided that's not how it is to be done anymore...dunno why,

(mind you some will still do it for you.)

[unstuck]

"Somebody" high up has decided that's not how it is to be done anymore...dunno why,

(mind you some will still do it for you.)

Well that sux. What a strange idea. They must not trust their local bobbys now or something.:devil2:
Has been a few years since I have had to get a compliance signed off.

[AllanB]

Ups to the cop for giving you two weeks. Lots would not have as it is obviously positioned in a poor place. Looks dorky there to so one could presume the only point is to intentionally hide it .........


However ........ you can purchase a brand spanking new Harley or Ducati with a plate mounted off the left rear axle that can not be seen in any way whatsoever from the other side of the bike ............

[JimO]

how do you expect a speed camera to see your plate if you hide it

[Erelyes]

Wow, this deserved a thread?

Take bike to shop, have plate fixed, take it round to cop shop and show em, job done.

[AllanB]

Wow, this deserved a thread?

Take bike to shop, have plate fixed, take it round to cop shop and show em, job done.

FUCK YES.

Two really good points have come out of this thread.

1. The cop was a good cunt for giving him two weeks to sort it out.

2. Don't put your plate where it cannot be viewed clearly!!!!

[EJK]

Why would you place a rego plate like that in the first place?

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[mhm]

yeah its def not allowed.when i purchased my new bike start of this year,06 zx6r,had the plate tuck right in,2 up it was completely invisible so got an ali hanger lasered and folded and moved it.no point getting a ticket for something silly like that

[mossy1200]

Trailer sideways. I think a lot are on boat trailers etc on the mudguards. I haven't had any issues but I guess its easy to read and you can see the bike one over the top also. Maybe ill get asked one day. Had to cut it down also as the trailer plates are way to big.

[Gremlin]

Cutting down the plate is not permitted. That said, technically, I believe putting holes in it isn't allowed (but that part is ignored).

The law states upright, and that is open to interpretation (and there has been a good thread on here about it, plus the defence etc). The plate can be upright, or the text can be upright.

[mossy1200]

Cutting down the plate is not permitted. That said, technically, I believe putting holes in it isn't allowed (but that part is ignored).

The law states upright, and that is open to interpretation (and there has been a good thread on here about it, plus the defence etc). The plate can be upright, or the text can be upright.

Im not to worried about the plate cut. It was massive before and now it bike plate size. I couldn't get a bike plate issued for it and had to take the big plate. Pulled over twice so far and nothing said. Funny thing is that neither time was the warrent and rego on the trailer checked just the bike.

[The Reibz]

Plates ruin aerodynamics. Enough said...

[98tls]

Plates ruin aerodynamics. Enough said...

Only if you ride backwards...That said fuck mate you ride a Busa the thing has a 3 story building attached to its arse and called a hump,not only does it cover the pillon seat i reckon you could actually cover the passenger with it.

[The Reibz]

Only if you ride backwards...That said fuck mate you ride a Busa the thing has a 3 story building attached to its arse and called a hump,not only does it cover the pillon seat i reckon you could actually cover the passenger with it.

Please come up to Aucks and weigh this so called Hump. IT WEIGHS FUCK ALL EAH
Nah cheers for the opinion bro, but I got a undertail mod waiting to get installed that apparently adds 10mph to the bike, Def not a believer but if you want to come up and try it out you can do so for free, but only because your a good cunt. Nah fuck yah mate you want to ride it anyway? just come to aucks and I will give you a turn...

[98tls]

Please come up to Aucks and weigh this so called Hump. IT WEIGHS FUCK ALL EAH
Nah cheers for the opinion bro, but I got a undertail mod waiting to get installed that apparently adds 10mph to the bike, Def not a believer but if you want to come up and try it out you can do so for free, but only because your a good cunt. Nah fuck yah mate you want to ride it anyway? just come to aucks and I will give you a turn...

:laugh:Settle ya daft bugger just winding you up.:laugh:

[BadSarah]

Trailer sideways. I think a lot are on boat trailers etc on the mudguards. I haven't had any issues but I guess its easy to read and you can see the bike one over the top also. Maybe ill get asked one day. Had to cut it down also as the trailer plates are way to big.

That trailer is amazing!

[unstuck]

Please come up to Aucks and weigh this so called Hump. IT WEIGHS FUCK ALL EAH
Nah cheers for the opinion bro, but I got a undertail mod waiting to get installed that apparently adds 10mph to the bike, Def not a believer but if you want to come up and try it out you can do so for free, but only because your a good cunt. Nah fuck yah mate you want to ride it anyway? just come to aucks and I will give you a turn...

I reckon your missus has a hump, can I come up to aucks and ride it for free. Just to try it out like.EAH:devil2:

[DMNTD]

Trailer sideways. I think a lot are on boat trailers etc on the mudguards. I haven't had any issues but I guess its easy to read and you can see the bike one over the top also. Maybe ill get asked one day. Had to cut it down also as the trailer plates are way to big.

Have my wee cruiser's plate mounted on it's side like that with nil issues so far.
I think it was Kiwifruit that had a thread covering the legality of where/how to mount it.

[breakaway]

I distinctly recall a 20+ page thread a few years ago on KB about someone who got done for the exact same thing. Their plate was mounted to the side vertically. If I recall correctly, they fought it and won.

[baffa]

I dont want to risk being pulled over every other day, or for that matter any more indue attention from the police than the bike already gets.
Dropped by Honda this morning, of course they felt it was legal, but were happy enough to arrange a new tail tidy at their cost of course.
will post before and after pictures when its done.

[Robbo]

Trailer sideways. I think a lot are on boat trailers etc on the mudguards. I haven't had any issues but I guess its easy to read and you can see the bike one over the top also. Maybe ill get asked one day. Had to cut it down also as the trailer plates are way to big.

Hey Mossy, that's a great little trailer, did you design it yourself? How does the bike handle when you are travelling with the trailer loaded and any chance of a couple of side angle pics without the saddlebags? PM me if you prefer.

Cheers

Robbo

[unstuck]

I dont want to risk being pulled over every other day, or for that matter any more indue attention from the police than the bike already gets.
Dropped by Honda this morning, of course they felt it was legal, but were happy enough to arrange a new tail tidy at their cost of course.
will post before and after pictures when its done.

Good on ya.:2thumbsup

[BIG DOUG]

Yea that was jon's harley sporty bobber with the plate mounted on the side,and you are right he did go to court and won .I don't blame the cop as how the hell are you suppose to see that plate.

[mossy1200]

Hey Mossy, that's a great little trailer, did you design it yourself? How does the bike handle when you are travelling with the trailer loaded and any chance of a couple of side angle pics without the saddlebags? PM me if you prefer.

Cheers

Robbo

I just started loading the bags for cold kiwi to see how much room I have for 2 sleeping bags,4 man tent, airbed etc. Theres a trailer build thread in modified bikes. Its the second one I have built Tows ok but not 100% happy with coupling yet so im making my own universal.

Photo one is early on. Moved shock and reduced frame height by removing top bar and having two low bars.

Photo two is the first trailer I made. It wobbled at 180.
Hoping new trailer is better but haven't tried it loaded up yet. Expect limited to 25kg load.

[nodrog]

Just been pulled up.

There is a thread from the good ol days on how to do a runner, you should read it.

There is also one about how crazy steve stabbed a cop, you should read that too.

[rastuscat]

All compliance decisions are now at the call of the PIB, Police Infringement Bureau.

Local stations don't have the authority to cancel tickets.

The are trying to standardise decision making to a national standard.

[Robbo]

I just started loading the bags for cold kiwi to see how much room I have for 2 sleeping bags,4 man tent, airbed etc. Theres a trailer build thread in modified bikes. Its the second one I have built Tows ok but not 100% happy with coupling yet so im making my own universal.

Photo one is early on. Moved shock and reduced frame height by removing top bar and having two low bars.

Photo two is the first trailer I made. It wobbled at 180.
Hoping new trailer is better but haven't tried it loaded up yet. Expect limited to 25kg load.

Thanks for the reply Mossy. You've given me something to seriously think about as i was considering building a trailer myself.

Cheers

[Mushu]

There is a thread from the good ol days on how to do a runner, you should read it.

There is also one about how crazy steve stabbed a cop, you should read that too.

Links?

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[Ender EnZed]

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This should really be a sticky. (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/27970-Beginners-guide-to-runners?)

[wysper]

Have heard of others with a similar setup being pulled over,am guessing the Honda shop put a WOF on it when they sold it to you so i suppose its there problem to sort out.Ive a tail tidy set up on mine but theres no reason the plate cant be attached in the normal position.

The illegal plate isn't necessarily a WOF issue.
Had a similar issue with a cop getting me for an illegal plate at a WOF/REGO stop.
I said I had bought it like that, had several warrants like that. He said that the plate isn't a WOF issue. So you can get a WOF with a plate that is illegal size.

Told me to sort it. Cost me a massive $13 to get a new plate from the gubbmint.
Sorted.

But that was illegal size not illegal placement. Placement might be covered under WOF