View Full Version : Moto Guzzi: Tonti framed model wanted
Jimmy_White
6th August 2013, 14:03
Hi all, I am after a tidy tonti framed Guzzi. Have been looking for a while and nothing seems to come up on TM. 850T or T3 1000SP or LM preferred (mk1 or 2 probably outside my price range). Would prefer one from a guzzi enthusiast, with mechanical history etc (sound mechanicals etc main concern - km's ok as long as it's been cared for, am prepared to do cosmetics etc if needed for the right bike). Would prefer early model-spoked wheels but will consider anything. Anywhere in NZ considered for right bike - can pick up if in SI. Cash buyer
Paul in NZ
6th August 2013, 14:29
Hi all, I am after a tidy tonti framed Guzzi. Have been looking for a while and nothing seems to come up on TM. 850T or T3 1000SP or LM preferred (mk1 or 2 probably outside my price range). Would prefer one from a guzzi enthusiast, with mechanical history etc (sound mechanicals etc main concern - km's ok as long as it's been cared for, am prepared to do cosmetics etc if needed for the right bike). Would prefer early model-spoked wheels but will consider anything. Anywhere in NZ considered for right bike - can pick up if in SI. Cash buyer
I'd ask Pete at Moto Kiwi if he knows of anything or maybe look at importing something.
Getting hard to find now ;-)
Jimmy_White
6th August 2013, 14:52
Cheers Paul, yeah they seem to have all disappeared on me!
I'll contact him, thanks.
Paul in NZ
6th August 2013, 14:58
Cheers Paul, yeah they seem to have all disappeared on me!
I'll contact him, thanks.
Meh - next week there will be 4 of them...
Having said that our Mk2 went in an hour and would have suited you to a T. If you want a cafe racer I guess you could start with a cheap Cali as they are still a Tonti frame albeit modified.
Jimmy_White
6th August 2013, 15:02
You've figured out my plan!! Yeah, am wanting a cafe project-but didn't want to scare off any old school guzzi enthusiasts they'd be loosing another original bike! Thought about Cali (heap's of them about) but would prefer older as i can always convert back after my youth!
Paul in NZ
6th August 2013, 15:14
You've figured out my plan!! Yeah, am wanting a cafe project-but didn't want to scare off any old school guzzi enthusiasts they'd be loosing another original bike! Thought about Cali (heap's of them about) but would prefer older as i can always convert back after my youth!
You gave it away when you said you prefer wire wheels....
:msn-wink:
I'd cut up a cali
Jimmy_White
9th August 2013, 16:59
Hi all...still looking-any tonti Guzzis out there? Just missed a goodun-85 LM sold in an hour! Quick and the dead i suppose. Cash buyer
Paul in NZ
9th August 2013, 17:24
A Mk4 isnt much less problematic than a cali to cafe...
Jimmy_White
9th August 2013, 20:02
yeah, don't really want a 4, think i just got excited that a tonti actually came up! same probs as cali i suppose-headstock and wheelbase, at least this one had a 18" front but in hindsight better off to keep waiting....
Paul in NZ
11th August 2013, 18:13
Well dont faff about... A T3 would be better but...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-625656166.htm
Jimmy_White
11th August 2013, 21:02
Well dont faff about... A T3 would be better but...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-625656166.htm
Just bought it, I'm rapt-just what I was after!
Paul in NZ
12th August 2013, 07:47
Just bought it, I'm rapt-just what I was after!
Well done - If you have not had one before grab a copy of 'Guzziology' - you wont regret it...
Jimmy_White
19th August 2013, 21:11
Well done - If you have not had one before grab a copy of 'Guzziology' - you wont regret it...
yeah, have picked up a copy-should be a great resource. cheers
98tls
19th August 2013, 21:21
You guys have an illness,that said its one i admire,nice find so what are going to do 1st?
Jimmy_White
20th August 2013, 13:06
You guys have an illness,that said its one i admire,nice find so what are going to do 1st?
Haha! Have just ordered my alloy tank and tail from the UK, bike will be getting stripped soon-pretty long list but starting with front end first: mainly polishing any painted parts, removing gauges and adding clip ons/new gauge etc then onto the frame....
Voltaire
20th August 2013, 14:22
I'm tinkering with Monza, Gutsibits in the UK seems to have a good stock of parts at reasonable prices. Shipping might add up but could try that new NZ post Youpost.
ADV rider Oldskool section is a good place to get info too.
98tls
20th August 2013, 15:34
Haha! Have just ordered my alloy tank and tail from the UK, bike will be getting stripped soon-pretty long list but starting with front end first: mainly polishing any painted parts, removing gauges and adding clip ons/new gauge etc then onto the frame....
Nice,be sure and post up pics as you go eh.
Jimmy_White
20th August 2013, 15:39
Nice,be sure and post up pics as you go eh.
will do, check out Bike Exif post today-another KaffeeMaschine guzzi, this time with factory tank/seat and 1000s style paint-looks pretty cool, would be cheaper than alloy bodywork...
T.W.R
20th August 2013, 17:29
Haha! Have just ordered my alloy tank and tail from the UK, bike will be getting stripped soon-pretty long list but starting with front end first: mainly polishing any painted parts, removing gauges and adding clip ons/new gauge etc then onto the frame....
Sounds like you're thinking about something like this pic :msn-wink:
Spruced up MkI
There's a couple of Guzzi nuts at Burnham one has a shed full of them :facepalm:
the oldstuff
20th August 2013, 19:57
Just bought it, I'm rapt-just what I was after!
awesome. That auction was obviously pulled to sell to you to avoid fees. great for the rest of us that were keen to buy via trademe. awesome. hope you fall off the fucker and bust it up
Jimmy_White
21st August 2013, 08:33
awesome. That auction was obviously pulled to sell to you to avoid fees. great for the rest of us that were keen to buy via trademe. awesome. hope you fall off the fucker and bust it up
cheer up old man! jeez there's some special people around! Next time you see something for sale you should buy it rather than thinking/talking about it and then whining when someone else actually does. You sound like a really happy person have a nice day!
98tls
21st August 2013, 17:59
awesome. That auction was obviously pulled to sell to you to avoid fees. great for the rest of us that were keen to buy via trademe. awesome. hope you fall off the fucker and bust it up
:killingmeWhat a fucking dropkick.
98tls
21st August 2013, 18:14
Sounds like you're thinking about something like this pic :msn-wink:
Spruced up MkI
There's a couple of Guzzi nuts at Burnham one has a shed full of them :facepalm:
Nice that Bill.
T.W.R
21st August 2013, 18:49
Nice that Bill.
:msn-wink:
960cc kit, carillo rods, keihin CR flat slides, modded DR John stainless rep pipe, akronts, Forcella F1 endurance forks, Ohlins
It'd go pretty good alright :cool:
Those cannons on the MkIII would sound awesome on over-run :eek:
98tls
21st August 2013, 18:53
:msn-wink:
960cc kit, carillo rods, keihin CR flat slides, modded DR John stainless rep pipe, akronts, Forcella F1 endurance forks, Ohlins
It'd go pretty good alright :cool:
Those cannons on the MkIII would sound awesome on over-run :eek:
Bloke at the March hare 2 years ago parked up next to me on a Magni,been trying to find a pic,buggered if i know where it gone,bloody nice bike.
T.W.R
21st August 2013, 19:00
Bloke at the March hare 2 years ago parked up next to me on a Magni,been trying to find a pic,buggered if i know where it gone,bloody nice bike.
:lol: Beat ya......this one? snapped it at the 08 Magpie :yes: even got a fullk test on the 1st one in aussie (Was the only one in Australasia at the time)
98tls
21st August 2013, 19:04
:lol: Beat ya......this one? snapped it at the 08 Magpie :yes: even got a fullk test on the 1st one in aussie (Was the only one in Australasia at the time)
Yep thats the one,got yapping to the bloke and it seems hes gots some very nice bikes in his shed,from down South,Invergiggle i think.He had a mate with a TLS and gave me his email addy as he wanted me to send down some pics of my old S,big night as you do and must have lost it.
the oldstuff
21st August 2013, 20:21
cheer up old man! jeez there's some special people around! Next time you see something for sale you should buy it rather than thinking/talking about it and then whining when someone else actually does. You sound like a really happy person have a nice day!
Yeah man, look I am sorry for that, I was drunk after a really shitty day and got carried away. Missed out on alot of stuff coz I try not to undermine the system- I'm sure its what is putting all the TM fees up.
To the other guy, I will consider myself a "fucking dropkick" when I have posted on this forum in excess of 8000 times:laugh:
98tls
21st August 2013, 20:32
Yeah man, look I am sorry for that, I was drunk after a really shitty day and got carried away. Missed out on alot of stuff coz I try not to undermine the system- I'm sure its what is putting all the TM fees up.
To the other guy, I will consider myself a "fucking dropkick" when I have posted on this forum in excess of 8000 times:laugh:
Yeah sorry man i am drunk and had a really shitty day and dont have a tv.
T.W.R
21st August 2013, 21:03
Yeah sorry man i am drunk and had a really shitty day and dont have a tv.
Traded the TV for a couple of cheap half-Gs of sherry didn't ya :drinkup:
98tls
21st August 2013, 21:09
Traded the TV for a couple of cheap half-Gs of sherry didn't ya :drinkup:
Na its still there,the shit on it is worse than the shit on here so i dont bother,that said the breasted one has taken charge of the remote so there ya go.Only so many episodes of Coro and lets restore a pile of bricks in the mist one can endure.
T.W.R
21st August 2013, 21:11
Na its still there,the shit on it is worse than the shit on here so i dont bother,that said the breasted one has taken charge of the remote so there ya go.
keeps them amused & quite for hours :lol:
98tls
21st August 2013, 21:16
keeps them amused & quite for hours :lol:
My have times changed eh,used to be you could offer em something else to occupy there time with and off they went..
Jimmy_White
22nd August 2013, 08:53
nice pics boys, that Magni...wow! i'd forgotten how cool they are! ended up spending far to long on net drooling at them, still better than what crime/doctor/DIY/physic/drama shit was on the box. between Magni dreams and pondering how to fit rear sets to a drum rear 'T' who needs the tele! I'm off to have a shitty day...
T.W.R
22nd August 2013, 23:14
pondering how to fit rear sets to a drum rear 'T'
Dunstall, Read Titan, Ocelot Engineering, Monotrack Engineering, & Interpart Corp used to make rear-set components suited to drum brake rear units :yes: . Another way would be to use a gear lever unit with a linkage arm and make a actuation arm to suit ;)
Jimmy_White
23rd August 2013, 08:33
Dunstall, Read Titan, Ocelot Engineering, Monotrack Engineering, & Interpart Corp used to make rear-set components suited to drum brake rear units :yes: . Another way would be to use a gear lever unit with a linkage arm and make a actuation arm to suit ;)
cheers, I'll look them up. With position of brake lever mount (rear) on these i'm even thinking about mocking my own out of a universal set. Dime City Cycles have a few uni's and they look pretty simple-thinking might shorten/reposition brake lever and just mount a plate/peg...if it was a disc rear would have been a piece of bolt on piss-pity i like the drums!....all this thinking makes my brain hurt!:pinch:
T.W.R
23rd August 2013, 10:05
cheers, I'll look them up. With position of brake lever mount (rear) on these i'm even thinking about mocking my own out of a universal set. Dime City Cycles have a few uni's and they look pretty simple-thinking might shorten/reposition brake lever and just mount a plate/peg...if it was a disc rear would have been a piece of bolt on piss-pity i like the drums!....all this thinking makes my brain hurt!:pinch:
All those brands were just complete mount units...mounting plate with everything attached; there's also Racecrafters International too. Plenty of peeps make there own set-ups...just got to have access to the right tools :msn-wink:
Paul in NZ
23rd August 2013, 10:54
This is nice...
http://www.bikeexif.com/moto-guzzi-1000-sp-kaffeemaschine
Jimmy_White
23rd August 2013, 10:59
This is nice...
http://www.bikeexif.com/moto-guzzi-1000-sp-kaffeemaschine
He does amazing work-check out his website. Seems a really good guy too, i contacted him re some parts and was great to deal with, just a little pricy buts that's to be expected with the quality of his bikes. That one's a nice departure from what he normally does-more of a factory look, that LM tank looks great. His machines are really what swayed me back into Guzzi's, that and Ben Part's Zagato (davida helmet ad)
Paul in NZ
23rd August 2013, 11:12
Check out the 'project bikes' section.
http://www.mgcycle.com/
Lists the parts used
Jimmy_White
23rd August 2013, 11:44
Check out the 'project bikes' section.
http://www.mgcycle.com/
Lists the parts used
cheers, I like that 'V1000 cafe aluminum'.
Jimmy_White
26th August 2013, 11:18
Hi all, first weekend with bike so i thought I'd post a couple of pics after a good clean, un-stick front brakes and a couple of plugs. Goes really well and should be a good base to get started on modding.
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98tls
30th August 2013, 20:47
Hi all, first weekend with bike so i thought I'd post a couple of pics after a good clean, un-stick front brakes and a couple of plugs. Goes really well and should be a good base to get started on modding.
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Very nice mate,:niceone:whatcha going to do with those pipes?
Paulo
31st August 2013, 17:01
Hi all, first weekend with bike so i thought I'd post a couple of pics after a good clean, un-stick front brakes and a couple of plugs. Goes really well and should be a good base to get started on modding.
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Nice score jimmy this T3 just came up on TM by the way (in case you need two Guzzi's) . http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=633203125
and here's my old beasty 287019
Jimmy_White
31st August 2013, 18:06
Very nice mate,:niceone:whatcha going to do with those pipes?
Cheers, yeah pretty stoked with condition when it turned up. Am wanting up swept pipes, so couple of options; adding angled inserts/or bending current ends and using these mufflers (don't sound bad-pretty open) or may park these and add megaphones. Quite like black pipes so if i weld i might high temp black the whole lot as center sections isn't polished. using current mufflers might look a bit 'long'-will have to see when seat/tail unit arrives and is mounted.
Jimmy_White
31st August 2013, 18:10
Nice score jimmy this T3 just came up on TM by the way (in case you need two Guzzi's) . http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=633203125
and here's my old beasty 287019
Cheers Paulo-your bike looks awesome! Yeah just saw the T3 come up, could make it pretty cool-love the old round barrels!
Paulo
1st September 2013, 07:59
Cheers jimmy who's doing your tank in the Uk? I know there's one guy who has a reputation for taking about a year and a half to complete an order once paid for. Sounds like its going to look great They are already a beautiful looking bike anyway. I'd hang onto anything you remove though I'm doing an r80 at the moment and have endeavoured to not brutalise it is I am getting a new sub frame made and can return it to stock if I ever needed to ( highly unlikely but she was so mint that I felt bad about hacking into something so nice) look fwd to seeing your progress. :2thumbsup
Jimmy_White
1st September 2013, 18:29
Cheers jimmy who's doing your tank in the Uk? I know there's one guy who has a reputation for taking about a year and a half to complete an order once paid for. Sounds like its going to look great They are already a beautiful looking bike anyway. I'd hang onto anything you remove though I'm doing an r80 at the moment and have endeavoured to not brutalise it is I am getting a new sub frame made and can return it to stock if I ever needed to ( highly unlikely but she was so mint that I felt bad about hacking into something so nice) look fwd to seeing your progress. :2thumbsup
yeah have heard The Tank Shop does awesome work but takes a long while, so I'm going with TAB Classics in Wales. Richard there has been great to deal with and really easy communication wise which just seemed to hard with tank shop-no email! Tank shop had a couple of tanks available immediately-one enduro style and another but they aren't really what i wanted. TAB's work looks good and they couldn't have been more helpful. Sounds like i'm having the same dilemma as you with your R80-the more i look at mine i feel bad about changing it! I'll be keeping everything i take off but still feel a bit bad changing such an original-doesn't help when i start pricing things up and everyone that sees it telling me to keep stock! I quickly get back on track when i stop and stare at the Davida Guzzi ad for a while though...
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98tls
1st September 2013, 19:41
yeah have heard The Tank Shop does awesome work but takes a long while, so I'm going with TAB Classics in Wales. Richard there has been great to deal with and really easy communication wise which just seemed to hard with tank shop-no email! Tank shop had a couple of tanks available immediately-one enduro style and another but they aren't really what i wanted. TAB's work looks good and they couldn't have been more helpful. Sounds like i'm having the same dilemma as you with your R80-the more i look at mine i feel bad about changing it! I'll be keeping everything i take off but still feel a bit bad changing such an original-doesn't help when i start pricing things up and everyone that sees it telling me to keep stock! I quickly get back on track when i stop and stare at the Davida Guzzi ad for a while though...
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Fuck what anyone else says mate your only here once,as you say keep all the oem bits and who knows down the track you may see fit to put em all back on,ive kept everything oem off my TLS as in 20 years i may well decide to put em all back on,there not that old but already noticing a few guys on the TL website are buying shitbox TLs and bringing them back to life as they came outta the factory.Looking forward to seeing pics of the bits you have bought....:banana:go hard with the modding,make it your own.
Paulo
2nd September 2013, 09:59
yeah have heard The Tank Shop does awesome work but takes a long while, so I'm going with TAB Classics in Wales. Richard there has been great to deal with and really easy communication wise which just seemed to hard with tank shop-no email! Tank shop had a couple of tanks available immediately-one enduro style and another but they aren't really what i wanted. TAB's work looks good and they couldn't have been more helpful. Sounds like i'm having the same dilemma as you with your R80-the more i look at mine i feel bad about changing it! I'll be keeping everything i take off but still feel a bit bad changing such an original-doesn't help when i start pricing things up and everyone that sees it telling me to keep stock! I quickly get back on track when i stop and stare at the Davida Guzzi ad for a while though...
287103
good to know you're not going to have to wait a year for your tank, yeah go for it with the custome job I wasn't saying don't do it more just hang onto the bits you take off as they will have more value then the bit of cash you might get flicking them off. There's not much that can't be undone / redone if you very felt the need , the r80 is looking like this at the moment put some wider bars on replaced the clocks with an acewell unit and a have a nice brat style seat and smaller lights etc to go on the rear : )
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Jimmy_White
2nd September 2013, 12:52
Fuck what anyone else says mate your only here once,as you say keep all the oem bits and who knows down the track you may see fit to put em all back on,ive kept everything oem off my TLS as in 20 years i may well decide to put em all back on,there not that old but already noticing a few guys on the TL website are buying shitbox TLs and bringing them back to life as they came outta the factory.Looking forward to seeing pics of the bits you have bought....:banana:go hard with the modding,make it your own.
cheers, i'll chuck some pics up once bits arrive. Just got a CNC machined battery plate made plus a few bits'n'pieces. Thinking batt should fit under tail (one of the reasons going with alloy rather than leather) cos otherwise will have to mount under trans or up on plate-don't really wanna mount on plate-really want to keep that space free.
Jimmy_White
2nd September 2013, 12:58
good to know you're not going to have to wait a year for your tank, yeah go for it with the custome job I wasn't saying don't do it more just hang onto the bits you take off as they will have more value then the bit of cash you might get flicking them off. There's not much that can't be undone / redone if you very felt the need , the r80 is looking like this at the moment put some wider bars on replaced the clocks with an acewell unit and a have a nice brat style seat and smaller lights etc to go on the rear : )
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yeah that wait would've killed me! Quite like keeping/collecting old bits and like you say can always go back to stock down the track. Have to wait till it arrives but talking to fabricator who says i can bend frame rails up rather than chopping for tail unit, will also allow somewhere to fab brackets for batt (if it'll fit!).
Lovin the look of your airhead! looks like a fun build, really like the style your going with:niceone: theres a lot of inspiration online for them but don't see too many modded in NZ which is good.
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