Dear Yamaha New Zillun

[HenryDorsetCase]

I should like to purchase a Yamaha Bolt.

http://www.starmotorcycles.com/star/products/modelhome/682/0/home.aspx


You need to sell it at aruond the $15k mark for it to be competitive, and it needs to have some accessories available.

In matt black I think.

[F5 Dave]

Butt (pun intended) it looks super Ghey.

[F5 Dave]

Dear Yamaha NZ. As above conditions but with a modern version of this:

[HenryDorsetCase]

I already own the spiritual successor to the RZ350: Triumph Street Triple R. source: I rode an RZ350 in the 80's, and the ST-R is very similar but better in every respect except for the smell.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Butt (pun intended) it looks super Ghey.


That one does, sure: but look what can be done:


http://www.bikeexif.com/yamaha-bolt

[F5 Dave]

. . . in every respect except for the smell.
. . . and the sound, and the weight and the power delivery. . .

[HenryDorsetCase]

. . . and the sound, and the weight and the power delivery. . .

Dude, don't get me wrong: I loved that RZ, but the ST-R is a functionally better motorcycle in EVERY respect:

RZ350 weight claimed with full fuel tank and oil tank 168 kg.

ST-R: say 182. Win to the RZ

Sound: RZ has the two stroke scream

ST-R has an arrows 3 into 1 on it and it sounds bad-ass : its different: both are good. equal

power delivery: the RZ has YPVS so does not have the massive hit and 3000 rpm wide powerband of earlier 2T's but the ST-R has a step in the power (or at least the noise - I havent had mine on a dyno) which is sort of similar, but it has way more low and midrange grunt.

Here is the kicker: Power: and power to weight: Power for the RZ is stock around 60 (yes really) a handgrenade motor might get you 80. say it was 70: that is every kg has .41 hp pushing it along. The ST-R has .57 hp pushing every kg along.

The ST-R has modern brakes, bigger forks, and better tyres which have bigger contact patches.


Its a little taller but the bar/seat/peg relationship is similar (I would say the ST-R is a bit better for me but YMMV).

The ST-R is a better bike.


I would still like an RZ again though.

[Madness]

I should like to purchase a Yamaha Bolt.

Funny how things change. In March you said "Meh" to the Bolt... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/157304-Yamaha-unveils-new-Bolt-950?highlight=yamaha+bolt

[F5 Dave]

Dude, don't get me wrong: I loved that RZ, but the ST-R is a functionally better motorcycle in EVERY respect:

RZ350 weight claimed with full fuel tank and oil tank 168 kg.

ST-R: say 182. Win to the RZ

Sound: RZ has the two stroke scream

ST-R has an arrows 3 into 1 on it and it sounds bad-ass : its different: both are good. equal

power delivery: the RZ has YPVS so does not have the massive hit and 3000 rpm wide powerband of earlier 2T's but the ST-R has a step in the power (or at least the noise - I havent had mine on a dyno) which is sort of similar, but it has way more low and midrange grunt.

Here is the kicker: Power: and power to weight: Power for the RZ is stock around 60 (yes really) a handgrenade motor might get you 80. say it was 70: that is every kg has .41 hp pushing it along. The ST-R has .57 hp pushing every kg along.

The ST-R has modern brakes, bigger forks, and better tyres which have bigger contact patches.


Its a little taller but the bar/seat/peg relationship is similar (I would say the ST-R is a bit better for me but YMMV).

The ST-R is a better bike.


I would still like an RZ again though.

Remember the bit I said about about modern version?

30 years development should quite nicely address most of those issues. The RZ was quite heavy compared to say the TZR, itself 25yrs old.

A ride on or behind (on my Triumph Triple, ok not like an STR) my mates VJ23 RGV (17 yrs old) & like, No foul-stroke sounds anything as good. It is sex.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Funny how things change. In March you said "Meh" to the Bolt... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/157304-Yamaha-unveils-new-Bolt-950?highlight=yamaha+bolt

I changed my mind. sue me.

edit: I am also still waiting on a new Indian Scout. whats up with that?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Remember the bit I said about about modern version?

30 years development should quite nicely address most of those issues. The RZ was quite heavy compared to say the TZR, itself 25yrs old.

A ride on or behind (on my Triumph Triple, ok not like an STR) my mates VJ23 RGV (17 yrs old) & like, No foul-stroke sounds anything as good. It is sex.

I had high hopes for those direct injection two strokes that were around (they might have been proof of concept only) but the potential. Oh the potential. Modern chassis: say 160kg kerb weight ready to ride and say 100rwhp.

sign me up for that too.

[Madness]

sue me.

Courts & Lawyers?

Meh.

[Bren]

http://iloapp.familjen-bjornfot.se/blog/blogg?ShowFile&image=1233169371.jpg

SR500.....mmm loved them as a kid!

[Kickaha]

I already own the spiritual successor to the RZ350: Triumph Street Triple R. source: I rode an RZ350 in the 80's, and the ST-R is very similar but better in every respect except for the smell.
The Triumph is a filthy fucking diesel, go wash your mouth out with battery acid for even mentioning it in the same breath as the RZ

[Road kill]

Yamaha in NZ are fucked.
I've had a few,great bikes but dieing here for some reason.

Buy a Triumph :2thumbsup

[gammaguy]

. . . and the sound, and the weight and the power delivery. . .

And the reassuring sound the ypvs makes when you turn the key on...like my TDR does:rolleyes:

[F5 Dave]

Yeah can even add an igni tech race cdi which has switchable curves, y ou could create a power valve curve that held off opening or openrd real early so you got that nostalgic big hit.

[jasonu]

...the spiritual successor to the RZ350: Triumph Street Triple R. source:
.

Really???????:killingme:killingme:killingme

[Swoop]

SR500.....mmm loved them as a kid!
Yup! Looked at purchasing one new, back in '82 (iirc).
Nice ride (I thought at the time).