Sick of being Sick [Archive] - Kiwi Biker forums

Paul in NZ

23rd August 2005, 10:46

This is nuts....

Ever since I had that bloody influenza B thing a few months back I have caught another cold every couple of weeks. As well as that I had a urine infection (where did THAT come from ?), a rash, a whopping great ulcer in my mouth... What the hell is going on here? These are all stupid things I don't normally get...

I'm assuming my immune system (already a bit poor due to being type 1 diabetic) has taken a massive dive... (well duh!) BUT what do I do to recover it?

I've had a full set of bloods done (and the other) and everything is aOK so I'm not 'officially sick'

I'm going to work a few short weeks and squander a bit of leave and try to get back into a bit of gentle exercise but any other suggestions would be gratefully received... especially any vitamins / supplements (Vicki sets great store in these)

scumdog

23rd August 2005, 11:01

Fish oil capsules old boy - and glucosamine tablet to keep the bendy bits bendy.

Lotsa fresh fruit'n'veges.

If that fails console yourself with the thought that instead of just being ill you could have been driving down the motorway when a retarded 14 year old drops a lump of concrete through your windscreen..... :rofl:

Big Dave

23rd August 2005, 11:16

Fish oil capsules old boy - and glucosamine tablet to keep the bendy bits bendy.

Lotsa fresh fruit'n'veges.

Good advice - I'm diging the glucosamine.

What's your weight like Paul?

adds:
Tried a few ester c bombs?

James Deuce

23rd August 2005, 11:18

5 weeks, two flus. Hong Kong 'flu, quickly followed by Haemophilus Influenza.

Trying to manage on 3 hours of sleep a night isn't helping either.

But I DO love whinging so. :)

The one thing that is helping the most is drinking a couple of litres of water a day, and taking an Executive stress formula multi-vitamin twice a day.

EAting apples and mandarins like they're going out of fashion too.

Riff Raff

23rd August 2005, 11:20

I'm going to work a few short weeks and squander a bit of leave and try to get back into a bit of gentle exercise but any other suggestions would be gratefully received... especially any vitamins / supplements (Vicki sets great store in these)
Vitamin supplements are only useful if you are deficient - you get all your daily requirements from fresh fruit and vegetables. Eat lots of these to help boost your immune system. Garlic capsules are helpful in building your immune system to fight off colds etc. Being unwell will create havoc with your BSLs so keep a careful eye on them. Keep the exercise gentle until you feel you are back to full strength. Healthy diet is probably the most important thing to help you recover. Chicken soup has a lot of therapeutic qualities (scientific fact) so have lots of that.

Motu

23rd August 2005, 11:53

Going right through our family,my boys cough day and night,they've sorta had a continuous cold for a couple of months,my wife has no energy and can't get enough sleep.One of my daughters collapsed in the shower a couple of months ago,out cold,she spent the night in hospital and was diagnosed with Influenza B.She hadn't been eating or drinking much because she felt so sick and was dehydrated.

Antibiotics kill everything,you gotta put your natural bugs back into the system,the ones that do the good things.Fresh fruit and veg as the others say,lots of liquids - juice your fruit and veg too,fresh juice is powerful stuff.

Paul in NZ

23rd August 2005, 12:18

Hitcher

23rd August 2005, 12:27

Talisker. About 150mL with about 5mL of pure spring water added, preferably into a brandy balloon glass. Microwave on high for 5 seconds. Inhale aromas. Savour. Imbibe contents of glass. Repeat, as necessary, until symptoms abate...

2_SL0

23rd August 2005, 12:31

Fighting off a bit of a cold at the moment. My boy goes to daycare, so he regularly brings back the very latest in bugs to share with the family. Plus he wakes us in the night on a regular basis. (So the lack of sleep thing kicks in)
Generally we have had a pretty good run this year. Last yr was a shocker.
We drink alot of water.
At the present moment (though not for the last few days with the cold) I do a shit load of exercise.
I pop pills like they going out of fashion. (Dont panic they are all have been animal tested)
Glucosamine
Magnesium.
Multi
Vit B
I think that is about it.

I would recommend eat plenty of good food, drink lots of water. Try to get more sleep. Move into some gentle exercise.

Oh and mental note.
DONT fly with a cold, as I just did. I thought my head was going to explode.

crashe

23rd August 2005, 12:34

Paul - you need to go on a holiday mate....
and take your bugs with you....
and when there, leave the little critters behind.

Take plenty of vitamins.. Oranges and pineapple juice.

Paul in NZ

23rd August 2005, 12:39

Hmm...

Interesting - did a quick office check and a lot of people are in a similar situation (not just all here but around the country)

Bad year for bugs...

vifferman

23rd August 2005, 12:46

Wish I had some platitudes or "get well quick" ideas to offer, Paul, but I don't.

So, I just hope you recover soon, and recover well. :yes:

It's interesting quizzing #1 son about medication (he's a 4th year pharmacy student) - he has some very eye-opening things to say about various treatments. F'rinstance - cough and cold medications are no more effective than your traditional hot lemon, aspirin, honey and brandy concoctions. He's quite ill at the moment (probably a similar ailment to yours, Paul), and I said, "Pharmacist! Treat thyself!", but he just laid on the couch and groaned at me.
:violin:

He wasn't even particularly helpful when I asked him for some creative ways to use my latest prescription as a permanent solution to my fookdness. What's the use of all our/his/the taxpayers' dollars spent on educating him, if he can't even find a cure for aaAAAARRrrrrRRthritis and insanity? :spudwhat:

Paul in NZ

23rd August 2005, 12:53

Wish I had some platitudes or "get well quick" ideas to offer, Paul, but I don't.

So, I just hope you recover soon, and recover well. :yes:

Feel better already from hearing you say that old chap (no really)... Nah, no get quick stuff but a bit more down time for moi methinks is the ticket

sels1

23rd August 2005, 13:05

Paul
Pop into the TCM Clinic (Traditional Chinese Medicine) on Rimu Rd (opp Jack Motors). I have had accupunture treatment there for Archillies tendon (from touch rugby) and elbow (squash). But while sitting in the waiting room read lots of articles and reccomendations for TCM for all sorts of conditions, including the ones you describe. Have a chat to Rodney or John Xu - tell em I sent ya.
I had really good results from my treatment from them.

merv

23rd August 2005, 13:07

I keep spending too much time on aeroplanes complete with their bug circulating air conditioning. Back in June I got a bad one had me off work for 4 days, then the cough lingered. Thought I got rid of it, went to Aussie again last week, got back Sunday and by Monday felt a bit seedy again. Hoping its nothing serious. Still at work so not that bad (yet).

I never ever trusted getting the jabs so don't bother with them and when I got crook in June it was the first time I had to take time off work for 4 years so I thought that was OK.

Hot food is what I like when I'm crook - good kiwi pies and the like - bad for the figure but make you feel better.

Oh well the next diet can start next Monday eh!

sels1

23rd August 2005, 13:14

and try to get back into a bit of gentle exercise but any other suggestions would be gratefully received...

Best exercise for the immune system - yoga (IMHO)

inlinefour

23rd August 2005, 13:20

Check the diabetes (NIDDM?), diet, exercise, you know all that stuff that makes the D word a pain in the arse.
I work in a hospital. The first year that I had the jab, same thing. Every bug that was going around, I got from working about physically sick patients. However stick with it as this is my third year of working in the ward + third time getting the jab. Have not really been sick since (touch wood). Oh, dietry suppliments? If people ate a proper balanced diet, there would be no need for any of them. I started going back to the gym a few months back and after getting over the physical barrier, I feel great! Hope this helps and you feel great. I found that extra kgs = less ability to keep healthy.

Brian d marge

23rd August 2005, 13:37

Dr Furtzwangler here ...

Can garranteee My cure ,,,,,Drink enough of this amazing lotion... errr.. alyxerr ... and you will be cured ..of Everything ,,I swear..

I usually use the 750 ml .. after which I dont notice I am sick ..

Just keep repeating the doseage ,,as many times as you like ......

( its also good for , starting the car on those frosty mornings )

I repeat ,,this is THE fastest cure for any ailment ,,,3 days of sticking to the recommended dosage and you will feel like a million dollars ,,,

One word of warning , Dont operate heavy machinery , drive , or attempt coherency ,,,and if after the 3rd day the headache persists ...drink plenty of water and call for assistance

Hope this helps

Kind regards

Dr Archibald J Furtzwangler ( Q.U.A.C.K)

TonyB

23rd August 2005, 14:19

Antibiotics kill everything,you gotta put your natural bugs back into the system,the ones that do the good things.Fresh fruit and veg as the others say,lots of liquids - juice your fruit and veg too,fresh juice is powerful stuff.
Rueteri (http://www.potentherbs.com/shop/reuteri-naturesway.html) helps restore the natural bacteris and stuff in your digestive system. Very useful if you've been on antibiotics, and it's more effective than eating yoghurt where most of the good bugs are killed off by the digestive acids before they can do their job.

Lou Girardin

23rd August 2005, 15:21

I use the age old method of lying on the couch and moaning. It's more effective than staying in bed because she can't hear me from up there.
It doesn't make me better, quicker. But I do get to share the misery. :love:

ZorsT

23rd August 2005, 17:14

DONT fly with a cold, as I just did. I thought my head was going to explode.
I have to disagree
when I have a cold (last one i had was last year) I go for a fly...
Pop into your local gliding club on the weekend and have a go, always works for me :) - i always go with someone else when i have a cold, you can get very confused (angled horisions when straight and level etc.) while in the air with a cold
maybe your head was feling funny because of the extreme altitude :spudwhat:

SPman

23rd August 2005, 18:12

I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired!

Im sick and tired of it!!

Skyryder

23rd August 2005, 18:42

Thanks folks..

Can't drink fruit juice (too much sugar) and need to watch how much fresh fruit I eat as well... (same reason)

Yoghurt is a good idea...

Weight has crept up from stuff all exercise. Not happy.

BSL' argh! Nothing like having a little machine that quantifies just how sick you are.. bastard thing...

Eating lots of salad / chicken / rice so OK there and knocked the booze off as well... Far out - I'll be signing up at the gym next (yeah right)

Cheers

Try fasting Paul. This will get rid of all the toxins. Weekend is a good time. A 48 hour fast is not easy. You will get shocking headaches on the first day easing up on the second and euphoria on the third.

Failing that here's another

There are five basic foods. Garlic, Skim milk, Molassis, Wheat germ, and yeast. They all tast like shit but if you incorperate these into your diet you will have all the basic body requirments.

Skyryder

Paul in NZ

23rd August 2005, 18:44

Try fasting Paul. This will get rid of all the toxins. Weekend is a good time. A 48 hour fast is not easy. You will get shocking headaches on the first day easing up on the second and euphoria on the third.

Skyryder

I'm not 100% sure mate but if a Type 1 diabetic tried that I think I'd end up with more than a headache... Nice thought though!

;-)

Skyryder

23rd August 2005, 18:45

Best exercise for the immune system - yoga (IMHO)

Absolutely. Use to to do 2 to three hours a day for a long time....then the kids came..........now stiff as a board. Still do my bastrikas on a regular basis. Stopped the pranayama. Just getting to spaced and into dangerous areas.

Skyryder

2_SL0

23rd August 2005, 18:54

I have to disagree
when I have a cold (last one i had was last year) I go for a fly...
Pop into your local gliding club on the weekend and have a go, always works for me :) - i always go with someone else when i have a cold, you can get very confused (angled horisions when straight and level etc.) while in the air with a cold
maybe your head was feling funny because of the extreme altitude :spudwhat:

40,000 ft.

riffer

23rd August 2005, 19:56

Diabetes + sick = a real pain.

First thing I do when I get sick is put away the Blood Sugar meter. It doesn't help - I already know I'm sick and I can assume my BSL's are out of whack.

Not sure why but I've never felt so good as I do at the moment, not working.

Of course this can't last ... so I guess I'll start feeling crap again soon.

What else can I say - the others have said it all. I found the Zone Diet really helpful but sounds like you eat pretty much that way anyway.

Are you getting enough sun? Its getting towards sort out the garden time again...

Paul in NZ

23rd August 2005, 20:25

Diabetes + sick = a real pain.

Are you getting enough sun? Its getting towards sort out the garden time again...

No, not getting enough outdoors time and YES - garden time again... I swear, some days I'd rathe bimble about with a fork and a spade than ride my bike.... Hmmm.... Must get a better bike I think...

riffer

23rd August 2005, 20:52

... or a smaller garden. ;)

scumdog

24th August 2005, 00:39

No, not getting enough outdoors time and YES - garden time again... I swear, some days I'd rathe bimble about with a fork and a spade than ride my bike.... Hmmm.... Must get a better bike I think...

Luckily it has been rather sunny lately down here or I too would be feeling 'off', amazing how much of a pick-me-up the longer days and more sun-shine is eh?

Off to bed now chaps :yawn:

24th August 2005, 02:53

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Not really anything to add sorry. I'm on my second bout of the flu in a month, am back to 90% but it's taking weeks for the last 10% to go.

I don't have any other health issues currently (that I'm aware of). I probably should lose some weight, but that's another story.

One of the women at my work, just turned 41, no medical history of anything, died suddenly of a massive heart attack Monday morning. Shit. We're all still in shock.

Take care Paul. Hope you're feeling better soon.
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Skunk Control

24th August 2005, 12:16

Get well soon Paul. I can relate to how you’re feeling, latest cold now into week 3. Thanks to everyone else for the tips also, some new things for me to try :)

Paul in NZ

24th August 2005, 13:10

Get well soon Paul. I can relate to how you’re feeling, latest cold now into week 3. Thanks to everyone else for the tips also, some new things for me to try :)

Yup - starting to feel a LOT better due to the antibiotics but early days. I actually managed a few hours sleep last night without coughing my guts out too...

This has been really interesting as it seems that this year the coughs and colds really have been a bit worse and longer lasting than the usual. I wonder if the warmer than usual weather has been a part of the reason?

One thing is for sure, I need to loose a bit of weight and get my fitness back to where I was a few years back... Maybe a KB discount at Jenny Craigs? (PT)

Cheers

Big Dave

24th August 2005, 13:15

Maybe a KB discount at Jenny Craigs? (PT)

Cheers

I can organise that (seriously). But most of the Auckland bunch I've met are quite....lithe.

I've been back on it for 4 days. Fit for the summer - you bewdy!

But good news (that you feel better) - you'll need your strength when you find my latest attack.

TwoSeven

24th August 2005, 14:16

Paul in NZ

24th August 2005, 14:35

I can organise that (seriously). But most of the Auckland bunch I've met are quite....lithe.

I've been back on it for 4 days. Fit for the summer - you bewdy!

But good news - you'll need your strength when you find my latest attack.

Pish - I'm as fat as a house and as ugly as a.... a.. really ugly thing... The worst thing is, when I had a real job and had to move heavy things I was quite strong and fit. Fit enough to play B grade basketball and a bit of A grade club stuff as well (which at 5'11" you have to be quite fit to do)

Now I sit in an office and think. My brain is no stronger for the exercise it gets and my body is also wose off and I'm just as poor...

Hmmmm....

Anyway - where is the attack Dave.... Or should I save some time and just give up now?

ZorsT

24th August 2005, 21:20

a Dr in Nelson swears that if you bring someone suffering with whooping cough to 10,000 feet for 20mins they will be cured.
There was an article in the newspaper about it a while ago and for weeks there was letters saying that their brother went up and was cured (other stuff like that)

It was also mentioned this treatment wasn't isolated to whooping cough...

Try your local gliding club :)

Motu

24th August 2005, 22:05

Brian d marge

25th August 2005, 01:54

I know how you feel,I don't know what has happened to my body either,an active guy who never had to watch what I ate,never had to exercise...the last 5 years has seen me overweight and out of shape.

So here's something that might help you in your quest for health.....Store Wars (http://www.storewars.org/flash/index.html)

Ha ha liked that ,,btw I bet your are between 35 and 40 ish ,,it hit me Just after the marrage at 35 ,,,and STUFFED if I can eat less than 1800kcal a day,,, I mean I am a screaming alcholic ..and I even swapped to ,,,:violin: red wine eeewwwww... I mean 350 kcal is ,,burrito from 7/11 ,,the sacrifices one makes ...( 744kcal for a mac Without the fries ,,,,,:weep:....)

I mean a few beer with friends and a kebab on the way home and I would be on the exercise bike for a month of sundays ,,,,,,,,

Actually on a serious note ,,,I have been real good the last few months ,,,100 pressups , sit ups and 30 min on hi ,,on me exercise bike Every day ...and me blasted wieght has GONE UP!!!!

I am trying to shed wieght ,,as I am trying to make the bike faster ,,,and the best way to make a bike ligher is for the rider to lose a few ,,,

Stuffed if I know whats going on ,,but its going the wrong way,,,,,

BTW ,,drinking is me hobby and you wouldnt want me to give up me hobby now would you :violin:

Stephen
Aka F b'stard

mstriumph

25th August 2005, 02:50

keep your chin up ----- you are doing real good ----muscle weighs heavier than fat?
........................
Actually on a serious note ,,,I have been real good the last few months ,,,100 pressups , sit ups and 30 min on hi ,,on me exercise bike Every day ...and me blasted wieght has GONE UP!!!!

I am trying to shed wieght ,,as I am trying to make the bike faster ,,,and the best way to make a bike ligher is for the rider to lose a few ,,,

Stuffed if I know whats going on ,,but its going the wrong way,,,,,

BTW ,,drinking is me hobby and you wouldnt want me to give up me hobby now would you :violin:

Stephen
Aka F b'stard

mstriumph

25th August 2005, 02:55

don't LET em feed u antibiotics unless it REALLY essential peoples ------ remember wat happened with penecillin!!!

Big Dave

25th August 2005, 03:10

Nothing worse than a reformed (insert vice here) going on about their 'former' vice, but i will anyway. :no:

3 games of basketball a week then the ankle blew out, lots to zero exercise, moved to New Zealand and was 160kgs overnight. Good paddocks here mate.

Try the jenny craig thing. it's easy, the food is really good, convenient, and there is absolutely no hype. just support.

It requires commitment - you have to want to loose weight- it needs some willpower and about $120 a week for the food. But if you back it up with some light exercise it works a treat. (pun intended).

It is honestly one of the best things i have EVER done.

jazbug5

25th August 2005, 08:39

Oh, Paul. But you wouldn't be the same if you weren't so sick..!

Now get well in time for the piss up in a couple of weeks. Nurse's orders.

Paul in NZ

25th August 2005, 08:54

Oh, Paul. But you wouldn't be the same if you weren't so sick..!

Now get well in time for the piss up in a couple of weeks. Nurse's orders.

Hmmm... Thats true - I would miss Vickis 'Naughty Nurse' uniform and the latex gloves but ( :slap: Oops - Wrong forum)