O Noes! My "normal" marriage is worthless as of today!

[HenryDorsetCase]

I'm emigrating before it becomes compulsory.



please discuss.......

[unstuck]

Each to their own I say. :cool:

[awa355]

The turd burglers and tongue & groove brigade will be happy. :innocent: Will be even less reason to watch tonights news.

[Big Dave]

Assume this is about gay marriage? I don't know any gay people well enough to object. If it makes them happy - good.

Anyway HDC isn't religion the main 'stumbling block' (sounds like a sex practise) in this civil matter?

Ergo your sig says you should be pro.

[SMOKEU]

Why can't they just suck each other off in private without making such a big deal about it? The last thing we need to do is to encourage such unnatural behaviour from corrupting morals even more.

[Grumph]

Your "normal" marriage is worthless any time your wife says so....i learned that one before puberty hit....

pity i won't be around to see the divorce rates equalise straight/gay - but they will.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Assume this is about gay marriage? I don't know any gay people well enough to object. If it makes them happy - good.

Anyway HDC isn't religion the main 'stumbling block' (sounds like a sex practise) in this civil matter?

Ergo your sig says you should be pro.

I am.

in fact I am all for it. Particularly if it spawns an industry of Strayans coming here spending their pink dollars.

I was just trying to shit-stir a bit but now you've called me on it, that ain't gonna work.

[bogan]

Worthless? Well, it depends who goes first doesn't it?

Gold diggers just got a few more options!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Why can't they just suck each other off in private without making such a big deal about it? The last thing we need to do is to encourage such unnatural behaviour from corrupting morals even more.

there's one.

You're a funny little troglodyte.

[Big Dave]

Oh, sorry.

Down with rainbows and musicals.

[imdying]

Good on them, no reason that straight people should have all the misery :laugh:

[avgas]

Marriage certificates are only valid for 24 hours anyway. After the honeymoon period if you get any sex it is a bonus.

[yod]

The last thing we need to do is to encourage such unnatural behaviour from corrupting morals even more.


Unnatural behaviour.

What, like riding a bike, brushing your teeth, smoking, tying shoelaces or plastering bigoted bullshit all over an "internet".

:yawn:


Another quality fail brought to you by SmokeU.

[SMOKEU]

Unnatural behaviour.

What, like riding a bike, brushing your teeth, smoking, tying shoelaces or plastering bigoted bullshit all over an "internet".

:yawn:


Another quality fail brought to you by SmokeU.

Sure, nothing we do in the modern world is "normal" in comparison to the first humans, but fags going around bumming one another is unnatural and disgusting behaviour on a completely different level. I have stated this before, but I have no problem with them doing their own thing in private, but why do they need to go out and force this shit onto the public? I feel sorry for the young generation as they are being brought up in a society that normalizes things like this. They already have the human rights act giving them full protection from discrimination, so why do they need any more?

Where's the fail? I'll probably regret asking this as you are no doubt plotting a way to twist whatever I say to suit your own agenda. Is your life really that boring that you have nothing better to do?

[98tls]

Why can't they just suck each other off in private without making such a big deal about it? The last thing we need to do is to encourage such unnatural behaviour from corrupting morals even more.

Better go burning the bibles then S those cunts did weird shit like walking on water...

[yod]

unnatural and disgusting behaviour

According to who? Your opinion is just that, an opinion. I'm fairly certain they don't see it that way. Homosexual behaviour occurs in plenty of other species.



why do they need to go out and force this shit onto the public?

Who's forcing it onto anyone? The media making a big deal out of the fact that a historically marginalised group who have been persecuted by idiots like you for centuries are finally getting somewhere near a fair deal and you don't think that's news? Perhaps something akin to the abolishment of slavery? But we all know you'd love to see anyone with a tan in chains, wouldn't you, Mr Master-Race.
It's not like their knocking on doors trying to sell it, are they?



I feel sorry for the young generation as they are being brought up in a society that normalizes things like this. They already have the human rights act giving them full protection from discrimination, so why do they need any more?


No, they're being brought up in a society which is teaching them to judge people on their actions rather than the "group" you feel they're assigned to. And you're against this of course because you think it's NORMAL to judge groups based on the colour of their skin or their sexual preference.

I count three fails. Keep 'em coming, I know you've got plenty more to offer.....

[Ender EnZed]

unnatural behaviour

Yeah, nah...


Homosexual behavior has been observed in close to 1,500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, and is well documented for 500 of them.

It's either evolved behaviour in plenty of species or, if you're a creationist, then God fancies a fair bit of faggotry in his creations.

[SMOKEU]

Better go burning the bibles then S those cunts did weird shit like walking on water...

Those cunts were hard trippers.


According to who? Your opinion is just that, an opinion. I'm fairly certain they don't see it that way. Homosexual behaviour occurs in plenty of other species.




Who's forcing it onto anyone? The media making a big deal out of the fact that a historically marginalised group who have been persecuted by idiots like you for centuries are finally getting somewhere near a fair deal and you don't think that's news? Perhaps something akin to the abolishment of slavery? But we all know you'd love to see anyone with a tan in chains, wouldn't you, Mr Master-Race.
It's not like their knocking on doors trying to sell it, are they?




No, they're being brought up in a society which is teaching them to judge people on their actions rather than the "group" you feel they're assigned to. And you're against this of course because you think it's NORMAL to judge groups based on the colour of their skin or their sexual preference.

I count three fails. Keep 'em coming, I know you've got plenty more to offer.....

1. Of course gays won't see their behaviour as being disgusting or unnatural. Which other species are you referring to that regularly practice homosexuality?

2. The Jews and other left wing groups are forcing the public to accept fags and gay marriage, and their views on it. It's simply something that I don't wish to believe in or support. Homosexuality has been legal in NZ for over 20 years, so where does the "fair deal" come into it?

3. Of course it's normal to judge people based on race or sexual preference. It happens all over the world, both historically and currently. This generally a subconscious process, but it's something that affects all humans. Now whether or not one acts upon those judgements is a whole different matter entirely, so don't confuse those two (which I'm sure you will, just because you can). I'm not advocating violence against minority groups in general, just to be clear.

PS - the only fail I see around here is your rather humorous attempts to discredit anything I say with nothing more than petty personal attacks.

[oldrider]

Relax!

It's just a little surge of publicity due to the act becoming into force and then it (gay marriage) will all settle back down into "normalcy" again.

I wonder what the gays will dream up next to prattle on about and be demanding change .... is there anything left? :no:

They wont like being just "normal" it is pretty boring stuff, nothing left now to feel so "special" about! :yawn:

[SMOKEU]

Yeah, nah...



So are you saying that guys bumming one another is "normal"?

:sick:

[bogan]

You're one special cookie smokey, maybe you should try it before speaking out against it too much, you never know... or maybe that is what you're really afraid of.

I found some people that would have just the right complementary personalities for ya :D

http://data.whicdn.com/images/329777/20090130085216_large.jpg

[HenryDorsetCase]

So are you saying that guys bumming one another is "normal"?

:sick:

can I just chime in to say that what your and my ideas of normalcy is may differ. and as long as I am not ramming it down your throat (yes, I did deliberately choose that) then its nobody's business.

And anyone that can keep a relationship going for the long term gets an "Attaboy" or girl from me.

It is fun to wind up the wee clockwork motor in the back and watch the little toy man dance though.

[Ender EnZed]

Which other species are you referring to that regularly practice homosexuality?

These ones. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior)


So are you saying that guys bumming one another is "normal"?

:sick:

Yes. By definition.


nor·mal [nawr-muhl]
adjective

4.
Biology, Medicine/Medical .

b.
of natural occurrence.

[Ender EnZed]

So are you saying that guys bumming one another is "normal"?

:sick:

Besides, you wouldn't think it was weird in prison, right?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4dNUMJXtF_I/TUfYGegBMOI/AAAAAAAAADs/7ZKwzNZKlYA/s1600/jk-simmons.jpg

[Big Dave]

It is fun to wind up the wee clockwork motor in the back and watch the little toy man dance though.


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[Banditbandit]

I'm emigrating before it becomes compulsory.



please discuss.......

Happy for you to emigrate. Where are you planning on going ???

[HenryDorsetCase]

South Africa I think.

I'd fit right in apparently.

[Banditbandit]

So are you saying that guys bumming one another is "normal"?

:sick:

Most homosexual people I know have exactly your reaction to heterosexual acts ... that seems very unnatural to them ..

[yod]

1. Of course gays won't see their behaviour as being disgusting or unnatural. Which other species are you referring to that regularly practice homosexuality?

But you think you have the right to define other peoples behaviour as disgusting and unnatural even though it doesn't have anything to do with you. See above on the species and have another fail on the house.



2. The Jews and other left wing groups are forcing the public to accept fags and gay marriage, and their views on it. It's simply something that I don't wish to believe in or support. Homosexuality has been legal in NZ for over 20 years, so where does the "fair deal" come into it?

I particularly like this one. "The Jews" are apparently trying to make the world somewhere nasty for a good upstanding citizen such as yourself to live. So is this ALL "the Jews"? Does this include any who are perhaps half or a quarter Jewish? What about Polish Jews, Austrian Jews, South African Jews, etc or is it just the Israeli kind? Is there some master Jew that tells all the other Jews what the plan is for this week?
What is it about "the Jews" with you? Is there some hidden conspiracy that only you are privy to or something?? I haven't had any of "the Jews" knocking on my door selling homosexuality, only the religious right trying to tell me it's "bad" cos their magic sky-fairy says so.



Now whether or not one acts upon those judgements is a whole different matter entirely, so don't confuse those two (which I'm sure you will, just because you can). I'm not advocating violence against minority groups in general, just to be clear.


Well done for PHIL101. So spraying your racism and hate across the interweb is how you act upon your judgement and you think that's all just perfectly dandy? "Just to be clear."

[imdying]

Most homosexual people I know have exactly your reaction to heterosexual acts ... that seems very unnatural to them ..Which would make a bit more sense, if, you know, they could breed :laugh:

[yod]

You're one special cookie smokey, maybe you should try it before speaking out against it too much, you never know... or maybe that is what you're really afraid of.

I found some people that would have just the right complementary personalities for ya :D



It is fun to wind up the wee clockwork motor in the back and watch the little toy man dance though.


South Africa I think.

I'd fit right in apparently.

You must spread some Reputation around.......

[imdying]

some master Jew that tells all the other Jews what the plan is for this weekSo you heard about that too? :lol:

[Banditbandit]

South Africa I think.

I'd fit right in apparently.

Bwhahahaha ... not as you might think ... despite what the racist homophob SmokeU thinks .. go here and read this ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_South_Africa

(Maybe that's why he left??? )

[scissorhands]

Which would make a bit more sense, if, you know, they could breed :laugh:

well they are in fact being bred in greater numbers by modern living

I'm off to the sauna, so many gays there nowadays, staring at your dick in the changing room...

oh well, less competition for the females is a good thing right?

[Hitcher]

I often wish that deadhead bogan prejudice no longer existed. Threads like this, while reassuring that sexually insecure people are in a minority, concern me because those same folks are not yet extinct.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I'm off to the sauna, so many gays there nowadays, staring at your dick in the changing room...



It doesn't count if they say "Oh, its just like a penis only smaller"

it also doesnt count if you say "blimey its a bit chilly in here" preemptively

[mashman]

So are you saying that guys bumming one another is "normal"?

:sick:

It's just like bummin women, but they have a dick and smaller tits and "Oh god that feels good" has more of a baritone ring, snigger, to it........ or so I've been told. So not much different really.

[nallac]

It's just like bummin women, but they have a dick and smaller tits and "Oh god that feels good" has more of a baritone ring, snigger, to it........ or so I've been told. So not much different really.

So it would feel good then....

[unstuck]

Well fuck me.......take that anyway you want.........I knew South Africans were fucked in the head, but not how much until I read this thread. You certainly are one primitive motherfucker Smokey, and I say that in the most loving way.:love::tugger:

[mashman]

So it would feel good then....

I wouldn't know... but it would seem logical...... for those who enjoy it that is

[kevfromcoro]

The best thing about shagging a bloke
Is reaching round the front
And think you've gone right through

[SMOKEU]

You're one special cookie smokey, maybe you should try it before speaking out against it too much, you never know... or maybe that is what you're really afraid of.

I found some people that would have just the right complementary personalities for ya :D


Thanks for the compliment and welcome to my fan club.


These ones. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior)



Yes. By definition.

That makes for some good reading.


Besides, you wouldn't think it was weird in prison, right?



I don't know, I've never been. Speaking from experience?


South Africa I think.

I'd fit right in apparently.

The kaffirs will be attracted to you like moths to a flame.


Most homosexual people I know have exactly your reaction to heterosexual acts ... that seems very unnatural to them ..

Homosexuality must be so natural that people use it to breed. Oh, wait, that's heterosexuality I'm thinking of.


But you think you have the right to define other peoples behaviour as disgusting and unnatural even though it doesn't have anything to do with you. See above on the species and have another fail on the house.


I particularly like this one. "The Jews" are apparently trying to make the world somewhere nasty for a good upstanding citizen such as yourself to live. So is this ALL "the Jews"? Does this include any who are perhaps half or a quarter Jewish? What about Polish Jews, Austrian Jews, South African Jews, etc or is it just the Israeli kind? Is there some master Jew that tells all the other Jews what the plan is for this week?
What is it about "the Jews" with you? Is there some hidden conspiracy that only you are privy to or something?? I haven't had any of "the Jews" knocking on my door selling homosexuality, only the religious right trying to tell me it's "bad" cos their magic sky-fairy says so.



Well done for PHIL101. So spraying your racism and hate across the interweb is how you act upon your judgement and you think that's all just perfectly dandy? "Just to be clear."

1. Even though it's wrong, I've already stated that I have no problem with fags doing their thing behind closed doors. I see no reason for this to change.

2. Check out stormfront for some of the threads about Jews. You'll see what I mean. It's no secret that there is a Jewish conspiracy to take over the world. Tell me why it is that they have been persecuted in every land they've been to since the beginning of Judaism. That's why they have Israel.

3. I'm not racist. My cat and dog are both black, and I had a good Asian friend until he went back overseas.

You seem to feel very strongly about the rights of minorities and their opinions, yet you also appear to relish every opportunity to remove my right to free speech and to form an opinion of my own.


It's just like bummin women, but they have a dick and smaller tits and "Oh god that feels good" has more of a baritone ring, snigger, to it........ or so I've been told. So not much different really.

I'm hoping this is not based from personal experience.


Well fuck me.......take that anyway you want.........I knew South Africans were fucked in the head, but not how much until I read this thread. You certainly are one primitive motherfucker Smokey, and I say that in the most loving way.:love::tugger:

See my comment above about the fan club.


I found it rather difficult to contain my laughter upon reading these replies!

[bogan]

It's no secret that there is a Jewish conspiracy to take over the world.

It's not a secret because it is not a thing... take over the world, really, that was the best thing you and your hateful buddies could come up with? Whatever happened to creative bullshit, like how the KKK want to farm cats to make feline bacon.

Also, stormfront? I'm pretty sure I heard they paid some guy to play video games in order to spread their hate messages. Are they paying you to post on KB smokey?

[Oscar]

Fuck 'em - let 'em get married.

Why should it only be the heterosexuals that suffer...:facepalm:

[SMOKEU]

It's not a secret because it is not a thing... take over the world, really, that was the best thing you and your hateful buddies could come up with? Whatever happened to creative bullshit, like how the KKK want to farm cats to make feline bacon.

Also, stormfront? I'm pretty sure I heard they paid some guy to play video games in order to spread their hate messages. Are they paying you to post on KB smokey?

Take a look at how the government is prosecuting people who pirate music. The recording industry is run by the Jews, and JK is also a Jew, so it's not hard to see that it's all about money, and not the best interests of the NZ public.

Jews always play the victim, especially with regards to the lolocaust. Now I'm not saying it never happened, but many Russians fell victim to the Nazis, as did many other non Jews. Did you hear about the massacre committed by the Khymer Rouge in Cambodia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge#Number_of_deaths)? Estimates place the death toll at over 1,000,000 civilians. What about the Rwandan genocide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide)? Have you thought about how many people Stalin was responsible for killing?

Have you ever wondered why you hardly ever hear about those genocides, yet the Jews repeatedly push their agenda to make everyone feel sorry for them. Hitler is a familiar name to most, yet Pol Pot is unheard of to most. I'm not representing SF or any other organisation.

[bogan]

Take a look at how the government is prosecuting people who pirate music. The recording industry is run by the Jews, and JK is also a Jew, so it's not hard to see that it's all about money, and not the best interests of the NZ public.

Jews always play the victim, especially with regards to the lolocaust. Now I'm not saying it never happened, but many Russians fell victim to the Nazis, as did many other non Jews. Did you hear about the massacre committed by the Khymer Rouge in Cambodia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge#Number_of_deaths)? Estimates place the death toll at over 1,000,000 civilians. What about the Rwandan genocide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide)? Have you thought about how many people Stalin was responsible for killing?

Have you ever wondered why you hardly ever hear about those genocides, yet the Jews repeatedly push their agenda to make everyone feel sorry for them. Hitler is a familiar name to most, yet Pol Pot is unheard of to most. I'm not representing SF or any other organisation.

Oh my god, a government prosecuting people who steal, the fuck is the world coming to :yawn:

You can have multiple victim groups, all of those things are fucking atrocities, beyond the scope of most people understanding. Comparing one to another strikes me as extremely disrespectful.

Get off your soapbox smokey, it's old, broken, and smells like socks.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Take a look at how the government is prosecuting people who pirate music. The recording industry is run by the Jews, and JK is also a Jew, so it's not hard to see that it's all about money, and not the best interests of the NZ public.

Jews always play the victim, especially with regards to the lolocaust. Now I'm not saying it never happened, but many Russians fell victim to the Nazis, as did many other non Jews. Did you hear about the massacre committed by the Khymer Rouge in Cambodia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge#Number_of_deaths)? Estimates place the death toll at over 1,000,000 civilians. What about the Rwandan genocide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide)? Have you thought about how many people Stalin was responsible for killing?

Have you ever wondered why you hardly ever hear about those genocides, yet the Jews repeatedly push their agenda to make everyone feel sorry for them. Hitler is a familiar name to most, yet Pol Pot is unheard of to most. I'm not representing SF or any other organisation.

You have moved on from being a novelty to being actively hateful. Not cool.

People who think know about the things of which you speak. And of course it is a fact that the British invented the concentration camp. (Boer War, look that shit up). And it is also well known that there have been atrocities perpetrated on one group or another throughout recorded (and, presumably) unrecorded history.

I do find it particularly hateful that you refer to the holocaust so dismissively. And that you say "Well, that wasn't so bad, what about these others". They are all bad. They are all to a greater or lesser extent symptomatic of our failure as a species to deal with ancient primeval fears: of the dark, of death, of the outsider, or the "other" whoever or whatever that might be.

My personal view is that we have to, if we are to have any hope of continuing (as a species) beyond the next hundred years or so, work that shit out. Get rid of religions for starters: all of them. Teach science to everyone. Abandon sports-as-religion. Think about things a little more. Or, in your case, at all.

I don't know you personally, but I find your online persona to be reprehensible. I kind of regret starting this thread now, even as a joke. And I still don't relaly get how we got from happy thoughts of people doing positive things like making commitments to relationships to your dreadful hatespeech. Not cool at all.

[Kickaha]

2. Check out stormfront for some of the threads about Jews.

I found it rather difficult to contain my laughter upon reading these replies!

I find it fucking hard to contain my laughter than anyone would be so stupid to consider Stormfront as a source for information

[testastretta]

Relax!

It's just a little surge of publicity due to the act becoming into force and then it (gay marriage) will all settle back down into "normalcy" again.

I wonder what the gays will dream up next to prattle on about and be demanding change .... is there anything left? :no:

They wont like being just "normal" it is pretty boring stuff, nothing left now to feel so "special" about! :yawn:

Fairly easy to guess what will be next on the agenda....adoption.

[pzkpfw]

I find it funny that sometimes the same people who post stuff like "I'm a motorcyclist and I'll ride how I want where I want ... freeeeedom ..." are the same ones who think other people ought to not have the same "freedoms".

[Angel_of_Metal]

It's about time that us gays should be allowed to partake in the suffering more commonly known as 'marriage' :D

[SMOKEU]

I find it fucking hard to contain my laughter than anyone would be so stupid to consider Stormfront as a source for information

I feel the same way with much of it too.




They are all bad. They are all to a greater or lesser extent symptomatic of our failure as a species to deal with ancient primeval fears: of the dark, of death, of the outsider, or the "other" whoever or whatever that might be.

My personal view is that we have to, if we are to have any hope of continuing (as a species) beyond the next hundred years or so, work that shit out. Get rid of religions for starters: all of them. Teach science to everyone. Abandon sports-as-religion. Think about things a little more.



Those are my thoughts exactly. With regards to the last sentence on the second paragraph, I'm thinking for myself more than most by not blindly following the propaganda machine which most people take upon themselves as gospel. :violin:

[SMOKEU]

Oh my god, a government prosecuting people who steal, the fuck is the world coming to :yawn:



Since digital media can be copied infinitely, there is no tangible asset that the victim is being deprived of. This does not warrant such an over-reaction from the powers that be, and these laws were not enacted for the benefit of the community, but instead for large overseas corporations for their own self interests. The legislation is poorly written, and wrongfully seeks to punish those who are often not at fault.

[bogan]

Since digital media can be copied infinitely, there is no tangible asset that the victim is being deprived of. This does not warrant such an over-reaction from the powers that be, and these laws were not enacted for the benefit of the community, but instead for large overseas corporations for their own self interests. The legislation is poorly written, and wrongfully seeks to punish those who are often not at fault.

I'm not in complete agreement with the laws either, but to claim the stealing is fine because its a copy is just stupid. I suppose patents and copyright laws are just more example of the 'man' putting whitey down?

[mashman]

I'm hoping this is not based from personal experience.

Why not?...

[scissorhands]

Fairly easy to guess what will be next on the agenda....adoption.

studies indicate children of gays are actually happier than children of heterosexual couples...
gays are often successful, smart, emotionally and socially intelligent

[HenryDorsetCase]

I feel the same way with much of it too.



Those are my thoughts exactly. With regards to the last sentence on the second paragraph, I'm thinking for myself more than most by not blindly following the propaganda machine which most people take upon themselves as gospel. :violin:

Don't agree with me it makes me uncomfortable.

and I very much doubt that following a Nazi hate group propaganda machine qualifies as unfettered intellectual research.

[scumdog]

Why can't they just suck each other off in private without making such a big deal about it? The last thing we need to do is to encourage such unnatural behaviour from corrupting morals even more.

Nek minnit there will be interracial wedding too...

[sgtp]

lame...:oi-grr:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

[mashman]

Nek minnit there will be interracial wedding too...

Take him out, get him shitfaced and it could well be his.

[sgtp]

http://theaquilareport.com/identical-twins-studies-prove-homosexuality-is-not-genetic/

if its not genetic, does this mean its a mental illness?

[scissorhands]

http://theaquilareport.com/identical-twins-studies-prove-homosexuality-is-not-genetic/

if its not genetic, does this mean its a mental illness?

bollocks its not genetic
what a moronic report

[Kickaha]

bollocks its not genetic
So you know better than eight major studies over the last 20 years? fuck knows why we have cunts doing studies like that when we could just ask scissorhands

[98tls]

studies indicate children of gays are actually happier than children of heterosexual couples...

:laugh::clap:They couldnt just be happy well adjusted children eh they had to be happier.Dont you just love studies.

[scissorhands]

So you know better than eight major studies over the last 20 years? fuck knows why we have cunts doing studies like that when we could just ask scissorhands


I'm surrounded by homos here in Grey Lynn
You live in Rangiora...

[98tls]

I'm surrounded by homos here in Grey Lynn
You live in Rangiora...

He does hold his coffee cup funny though.

[SMOKEU]

I'm not in complete agreement with the laws either, but to claim the stealing is fine because its a copy is just stupid. I suppose patents and copyright laws are just more example of the 'man' putting whitey down?

If I'm too poor to buy music (which I am), then how does me downloading it for free constitute theft if I had no intention, nor financial means of purchasing that product in the first place?


Why not?...

Here we go again.


Don't agree with me it makes me uncomfortable.

and I very much doubt that following a Nazi hate group propaganda machine qualifies as unfettered intellectual research.

You're entitled to your opinion. It's what makes the world "interesting".


Nek minnit there will be interracial wedding too...

Now I'm worried!


http://theaquilareport.com/identical-twins-studies-prove-homosexuality-is-not-genetic/

if its not genetic, does this mean its a mental illness?

Yes, it's a mental illness.

[bogan]

If I'm too poor to buy music (which I am), then how does me downloading it for free constitute theft if I had no intention, nor financial means of purchasing that product in the first place?

Because 'too poor' is a massive grey area. I'm thinking in your case, too poor just means you'd rather nick music, than stop buying weed or booze for a week or two.

[scissorhands]

Yes, it's a mental illness.

the Dutch orthodox church and medical system were treating homoness with this victorian type prudishness much longer than the modernising world, circ 1950
I think they were lobotomising and electroshocking gays much longer after other countries had stopped

your a fucking mental illness

[Ender EnZed]

http://theaquilareport.com/identical-twins-studies-prove-homosexuality-is-not-genetic/


"The Aquila Report: Your independent source for news and commentary from and about conservative, orthodox evangelicals in the Reformed and Presbyterian family of churches."

Seems legit.

[SMOKEU]

the Dutch orthodox church and medical system were treating homoness with this victorian type prudishness much longer than the modernising world, circ 1950
I think they were lobotomising and electroshocking gays much longer after other countries had stopped

your a fucking mental illness

1. lol, no really, lol!
2. you're*

[Laava]

Someone should introduce Smokeyou(that is a euphamism surely?) and Akzxzyle. They have so much in common and you never know, there may be a beautiful thing develop!

[Smifffy]

studies indicate children of gays are actually happier than children of heterosexual couples...
gays are often successful, smart, emotionally and socially intelligent

Crikey!! No wonder SuckU is agin 'em - his complete antithesis.

[Oakie]

bollocks its not genetic
what a moronic report

Ha ha. If 'gay' was genetic it would have un-bred it's way to extinction 1000s of years ago huh? I mean ... generally gay people don't breed ... and if they do their kids would be gay and sooner or later they stop breeding and the line would die.

Hey guess what I'm doing on 22 September?
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Attending my gay daughter's wedding.

[Smifffy]

:laugh::clap:They couldnt just be happy well adjusted children eh they had to be happier.Dont you just love studies.

They aren't just happy, they're FABULOUS!

[mashman]

Ha ha. If 'gay' was genetic it would have un-bred it's way to extinction 1000s of years ago huh? I mean ... generally gay people don't breed ... and if they do their kids would be gay and sooner or later they stop breeding and the line would die.

Hey guess what I'm doing on 22 September?
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Attending my gay daughter's wedding.

Partay... have fun. Hugs from a guy who should be gay according to the genetic fucknuggets :D

[98tls]

Ive no idea how anyone could oppose this,those that do are a bit short-sighted methinks as its possibly opening the door for Tri marriages....

[scissorhands]

They obviously have not been to a biker rally
or maybe they have.....

[avgas]

Nek minnit there will be interracial wedding too...
We haven't met any intelligent life on other planets - that hangs around long enough to marry.

Just damn dirty apes marrying damn dirty apes down here.

[avgas]

Ive no idea how anyone could oppose this,those that do are a bit short-sighted methinks as its possibly opening the door for Tri marriages....
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[Banditbandit]

Nek minnit there will be interracial wedding too...



FUCK !!! Are they going to let cops marry civilians ???



Ive no idea how anyone could oppose this,those that do are a bit short-sighted methinks as its possibly opening the door for Tri marriages....



http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=286608&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1376906901

I'd marry both of them ... very perky ...

[nudemetalz]

I'd marry both of them ... very perky ...


...and which side of the bed would you be in...right, left or middle??
They'd probably tell you to bugroff cause you ain't perky enough for them !! :p

[Crasherfromwayback]

It's just like bummin women, but they have a dick and smaller tits and "Oh god that feels good" has more of a baritone ring, snigger, to it........ or so I've been told. So not much different really.

That, and they can turn your round and return the favour!

[SMOKEU]

Ive no idea how anyone could oppose this,those that do are a bit short-sighted methinks as its possibly opening the door for Tri marriages....

It's still wrong and immoral, even though they're hot chicks. They should not be getting married.

However, if they were to strip naked and start licking each other out I certainly wouldn't be complaining!

[nudemetalz]

There's a lot of discussion going on that sounds very much like "I might have been there once,..or twice..." :facepalm:


It's still wrong and immoral, even though they're hot chicks. They should not be getting married.

However, if they were to strip naked and start licking each other out I certainly wouldn't be complaining!

Until they told you to bugroff cause they're busy and knobs need not apply?

[ellipsis]

the KKK , feline bacon. (lurve to you)



...i'm sure Bad Company recorded that one first...

[SMOKEU]

Until they told you to bugroff cause they're busy and knobs need not apply?

I never said they'd have any choice in the matter. :wings:

[yod]

It's still wrong and immoral

why? evidence please, not conjecture.

I need a good laugh.

[mashman]

It's still wrong and immoral, even though they're hot chicks. They should not be getting married.

However, if they were to strip naked and start licking each other out I certainly wouldn't be complaining!

So if it turns you on it's ok, even if it's immoral? Onya mate... stick to your principles, the world needs more people like ya.

[mashman]

That, and they can turn your round and return the favour!

So can the missus. Although she'd likely moan and bitch about how the straps make her butt look big or somefink :shit:

[Crasherfromwayback]

So can the missus. Although she'd likely moan and bitch about how the straps make her butt look big or somefink :shit:

lol. As they do. You seen Acid House?

[nudemetalz]

Is that like "Bobby does Dallas?" <=======OO

[Banditbandit]

It's still wrong and immoral, even though they're hot chicks. They should not be getting married.

However, if they were to strip naked and start licking each other out I certainly wouldn't be complaining!

let me see ..

Do you understand the concept "standard" ?

Do you understand "double"

Is there any hope that you might see that you have a double standard going on there ???

[SMOKEU]

why? evidence please, not conjecture.

I need a good laugh.

You're entitled to your opinions.

In relation to the lulz you requested, here are some epic trolls:

http://www.godhatesfags.com/

http://www.godhatesfags.com/letters/20090512_open_letter_elect_jews.html

Leviticus 18:22
"Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin." (NLT)

Leviticus 20:13
"If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense." (NLT) (http://www.godhatesfags.com/bible/God-hates.html)


So if it turns you on it's ok, even if it's immoral? Onya mate... stick to your principles, the world needs more people like ya.


let me see ..

Do you understand the concept "standard" ?

Do you understand "double"

Is there any hope that you might see that you have a double standard going on there ???

I never said there was anything wrong with chicks "fucking" each other.

It's the MARRIAGE part that I object to. No one NEEDS to be married to have a good root.

[Oakie]

You're entitled to your opinions.

As long as everyone respects that I'm happy to have this debate



It's the MARRIAGE part that I object to. No one NEEDS to be married to have a good root.

And that's the part the anti-gay crowd get hung up on ... the sex act. Marriage is about two people in a mutually supportive and loving relationship. It's nothing to do with sex. Of course you can have a good root without marriage. Sex is just a small part of marriage.

I pose you a question I posed a rabidly anti-gay pastor friend of mine. What do you feel about a gay couple living in a state of marriage ... but being celebate? (For clarity for some ... that means not having sex).

[Smifffy]

As long as everyone respects that I'm happy to have this debate




And that's the part the anti-gay crowd get hung up on ... the sex act. Marriage is about two people in a mutually supportive and loving relationship. It's nothing to do with sex. Of course you can have a good root without marriage. Sex is just a small part of marriage.

I pose you a question I posed a rabidly anti-gay pastor friend of mine. What do you feel about a gay couple living in a state of marriage ... but being celebate? (For clarity for some ... that means not having sex).

He's neither been married nor had sex so wtf would he know about it anyway?

[SMOKEU]

And that's the part the anti-gay crowd get hung up on ... the sex act. Marriage is about two people in a mutually supportive and loving relationship. It's nothing to do with sex. Of course you can have a good root without marriage. Sex is just a small part of marriage.

I pose you a question I posed a rabidly anti-gay pastor friend of mine. What do you feel about a gay couple living in a state of marriage ... but being celebate? (For clarity for some ... that means not having sex).

If people really love one another then why do they need a piece of paper to prove it? They should know within themselves that they really want to be together, and that's all that counts. I don't care what they get up to behind closed doors.

If they're married but not engaging in sexual activities then it's still wrong.

[mashman]

I never said there was anything wrong with chicks "fucking" each other.

It's the MARRIAGE part that I object to. No one NEEDS to be married to have a good root.

So you're not against homosexuality then?

:killingme... yeah, everyone gets married because they want an unsinful root.

[Smifffy]

If people really love one another then why do they need a piece of paper to prove it? They should know within themselves that they really want to be together, and that's all that counts. I don't care what they get up to behind closed doors.

So why deny them the piece of paper if that's what they want? After all, like you said, it's just a piece of paper. Let them have it.

[mashman]

lol. As they do. You seen Acid House?

And I'm guessing that I don't want to :laugh:

[unstuck]

Masturbation is still considered wrong by a lot of religions too smokey, what are your thoughts on that? You seem to be an expert on the subject.:bleh::bleh:

[Crasherfromwayback]

And I'm guessing that I don't want to :laugh:

I actually think you'd love it!

[mashman]

Masturbation is still considered wrong by a lot of religions too smokey, what are your thoughts on that? You seem to be an expert on the subject.:bleh::bleh:

If he sees it as a positive experience, why should that matter ;).

[mashman]

I actually think you'd love it!

What? having my poop shoot rammed by the missus?

[unstuck]

If he sees it as a positive experience, why should that matter ;).

Well its doing you no harm.:msn-wink:

[mashman]

Well its doing you no harm.:msn-wink:

from strength to strength mate

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[Crasherfromwayback]

What? having my poop shoot rammed by the missus?

lol. A home packed lunch! But no...this film here...

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[SMOKEU]

So you're not against homosexuality then?



While I am against homosexuality, if consenting people of lawful age wish to engage in same sex coitus, then I don't really care as it's their decision to make and no one else is being harmed.


So why deny them the piece of paper if that's what they want? After all, like you said, it's just a piece of paper. Let them have it.

Because marriage is between a man and woman. No other combination.


Masturbation is still considered wrong by a lot of religions too smokey, what are your thoughts on that? You seem to be an expert on the subject.:bleh::bleh:


If he sees it as a positive experience, why should that matter ;).

Jerking off is all good ay.

[Smifffy]

Because marriage is between a man and woman. No other combination.


Who decreed this?

[mashman]

While I am against homosexuality, if consenting people of lawful age wish to engage in same sex coitus, then I don't really care as it's their decision to make and no one else is being harmed.

While I don't believe in marriage, if consenting people of lawful age wish to engage in same sex marriage, then I don't really care as it's their decision to make and no one else is being harmed.

[mashman]

lol. A home packed lunch! But no...this film here...

Shall keep my eyes open for it next time I'm in the vid shop. (he said ignoring the initial comment as the missus makes a great packed lunch)

[unstuck]

Who decreed this?

The book of TRUTH of course.:laugh::laugh:

[SMOKEU]

Who decreed this?


While I don't believe in marriage, if consenting people of lawful age wish to engage in same sex marriage, then I don't really care as it's their decision to make and no one else is being harmed.

Marriage has always been between a man and a woman, and that's how it should stay. Gays are making a mockery of marriage, and "normalizing" it. No wonder the current generation of kids are so fucked.

[unstuck]

Marriage has always been between a man and a woman, and that's how it should stay. Gays are making a mockery of marriage, and "normalizing" it. No wonder the current generation of kids are so fucked.

You seriously think we are going to move ahead as a race if we stay in the dark ages smokey. Surely your not that naive????:shit:

[mashman]

Marriage has always been between a man and a woman, and that's how it should stay. Gays are making a mockery of marriage, and "normalizing" it. No wonder the current generation of kids are so fucked.

Well it hasn't stayed that way, so shut the fuck up and stay unmarried as a protest... better yet, stay single... better still get sterlised and have your voice box and fingers removed and if you don't know how, go to bestgore.com as I'm sure they'll have various ways of accomplishing both you intolerant homosapien.

[bluninja]

Just thought I should contribute as I'm in a same sex marriage.......every day the same sex :innocent:

[unstuck]

Well it hasn't stayed that way, so shut the fuck up and stay unmarried as a protest... better yet, stay single... better still get sterlised and have your voice box and fingers removed and if you don't know how, go to bestgore.com as I'm sure they'll have various ways of accomplishing both you intolerant homosapien.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::clap::clap: Cant believe I am agreeing with a nutjob like yourself.:msn-wink:

[SMOKEU]

You seriously think we are going to move ahead as a race if we stay in the dark ages smokey. Surely your not that naive????:shit:

I'm not trying to stay in the dark ages. And it's 'you're', not 'your'!


Well it hasn't stayed that way, so shut the fuck up and stay unmarried as a protest... better yet, stay single... better still get sterlised and have your voice box and fingers removed and if you don't know how, go to bestgore.com as I'm sure they'll have various ways of accomplishing both you intolerant homosapien.

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[Virago]

...Jews always play the victim, especially with regards to the lolocaust...

The lolocaust? That's no laughing matter...

[avgas]

Just thought I should contribute as I'm in a same sex marriage.......every day the same sex :innocent:
Holy shit you get sex every day. Mine is like an annual dividend payment as per the terms of our contract :weep:

[Woodman]

Marriage has always been between a man and a woman, and that's how it should stay. Gays are making a mockery of marriage, and "normalizing" it. No wonder the current generation of kids are so fucked.


Uu-uum, heterosexual couples are making a mockery of marriage.

If the current generation of kids are so fucked according to you, then their is hope after all.

Peace

[bogan]

If the current generation of kids are so fucked according to you, then their is hope after all.

According to him... I'd say he makes a more compelling example for that case! Good thing he is just a minority though.

[SMOKEU]

The lolocaust? That's no laughing matter...

Do I still get my 6 million bonus points?


Uu-uum, heterosexual couples are making a mockery of marriage.

Peace

They are indeed.

Peace to you too.

[Edbear]

Let's just say that I am very happily married after 35 years and counting. I enjoy benefits that many not in my situation don't even know exist.

I am also in the majority group re: opinions on homosexuality. People in the media have no choice but to present homosexuality as the most wonderful thing in the world. Anyone speaking publicly against it is vilified.

[bogan]

I am also in the majority group re: opinions on homosexuality. People in the media have no choice but to present homosexuality as the most wonderful thing in the world. Anyone speaking publicly against it is vilified.

Of course you are Ed, any group with you in it must be the 'majority' one :rolleyes:

[Edbear]

Of course you are Ed, any group with you in it must be the 'majority' one :rolleyes:

Are you deliberately anal or is it a gift?

[Woodman]

Are you deliberately anal or is it a gift?


pffffftttt..... anal.:laugh:

[bogan]

pffffftttt..... anal.:laugh:

Looks like his curiosity has been raised, perhaps among other things :innocent:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Are you after some anal?

That's the story Ed! Old dogs can learn new tricks...

[mashman]

Are you deliberately anal or is it a gift?

Intelligence is a gift :shifty:

[Oakie]

He's neither been married nor had sex so wtf would he know about it anyway?

Married twice and had copious sex I assure you.

[scumdog]

Marriage has always been between a man and a woman, and that's how it should stay. Gays are making a mockery of marriage, and "normalizing" it. No wonder the current generation of kids are so fucked.


For one so ignorant you sure seem to know a lot...

[yod]

You're entitled to your opinions.

In relation to the lulz you requested, here are some epic trolls:

http://www.godhatesfags.com/

http://www.godhatesfags.com/letters/20090512_open_letter_elect_jews.html

Leviticus 18:22
"Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin." (NLT)

Leviticus 20:13
"If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense." (NLT) (http://www.godhatesfags.com/bible/God-hates.html)


so, I ask for evidence and you quote scripture? you're particularly hot on irony this week bro!


Leviticus 19:19 "Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material."

I really hope you're checking those labels Smokey, you might get turned away at the pearly gates.....


:facepalm:

[SMOKEU]

so, I ask for evidence and you quote scripture? you're particularly hot on irony this week bro!



I really hope you're checking those labels Smokey, you might get turned away at the pearly gates.....


:facepalm:

You have to admit, those people are full of lulz.

[yod]

You have to admit, those people are full of lulz.

and you agree with them

you're not just on the failbus - you're actually driving it now!!

[Smifffy]

Married twice and had copious sex I assure you.

You ain't what Willis was talkin' about, but thanks for the info anyway :cool:

[SMOKEU]

and you agree with them

you're not just on the failbus - you're actually driving it now!!

That's good to know!

[Oakie]

You ain't what Willis was talkin' about, but thanks for the info anyway :cool:

Hmmm. Perhaps I should have done a 'quote' and not just a 'reply'. Lost it's context. (I was refering to a friend of mine. Ahh, forget it)

[kiwi cowboy]

Homosexual behaviour occurs in plenty of other species.


Had a homo ram once;)he aint around anymore:ar15::ar15::ar15: just saying:yawn::yawn:

[oldrider]

Funny thing about this thread .. it's not the homo's that keep it going .. they seem to just be getting on with their business! :yes:

[mashman]

Funny thing about this thread .. it's not the homo's that keep it going .. they seem to just be getting on with their business! :yes:

Fudge doesn't pack itself.

[yod]

Fudge doesn't pack itself.

Chris Cairns was into that in a big way wasn't he?

[scissorhands]

What an invigorating read! Your mums must be so proud of you know who you are.

As the seeder or 7 spawned children to gay mums, it brings a tear to my eye to see such intelligent understanding from some of you lot.

Maybe when the younguns go through a rebellious phase, they might join you for a beer and a minge whinge

Could be a marriage made in heaven

[Banditbandit]

While I am against homosexuality, if consenting people of lawful age wish to engage in same sex coitus, then I don't really care as it's their decision to make and no one else is being harmed.



Because marriage is between a man and woman. No other combination.





Jerking off is all good ay.


That's just religious bullshit mate. You can't have it both ways .. If you rely on Genesis narrative (the first one, not the second one) then:

Sex is a sin ... (maybe the original sin, though I'm inclined to argue that disobedieince is the original sin) .. and therefore you can only have sex if Jehovah blesses the relationship - hence the concept of marriage ... this asked for Jehovah's blessing so a couple could have sex - the priest stands in for Jehovah adn gives his blessing ...

Therefore, ALL sex outside marriage is wrong and a sin .. and your position that sex is fine as long as it is not marriage cannot be supported by Chriostainity - it doesn't matter whether it is same-sex or different sex .. outside marriage sex is a sin

Now, if you remove the religious overtones from the Middle Eastern-derived monotheistic religions - as most of us have - then you have no real need for marriage as a religious blessing ... it's purely a social contract ... two people publically stating their comitment to each other as a couple ... Hence, we have changed the social contract , as any society can ...

Your position is completely inconstent - but that's hardly a surprise.

[yod]

That's just religious bullshit mate. You can't have it both ways .. If you rely on Genesis narrative (the first one, not the second one) then:

Sex is a sin ... (maybe the original sin, though I'm inclined to argue that disobedieince is the original sin) .. and therefore you can only have sex if Jehovah blesses the relationship - hence the concept of marriage ... this asked for Jehovah's blessing so a couple could have sex - the priest stands in for Jehovah adn gives his blessing ...

Therefore, ALL sex outside marriage is wrong and a sin .. adn you positiion that sex is fine as long as it is not marriage can not be supported by Chriostainity - it doesn't matter whether it is same-sex or different sex .. outside marriage sex is a sin

Now, if you remove the religious overtones from the Middle Eastern-derived monotheistic religions - as most of us have - then you have no real need for marriage as a religious blessing ... it's purely a social contract ... two people publically stating their comitment to each other as a coupe ..

Your position is completely inconstent - but that's hardly a surprise.

Hence, we have changed the social contract , as any society can ...

oh good grief, don't bring logic, insight, knowledge and common sense into it - the cognitive dissonance will explode his poor wee head!

[MisterD]

The third best joke of this year's Edinburgh Fringe (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/comedy/news/edinburgh-2013-former-salesman-rob-auton-raises-bar-with-cadbury-gag-to-win-funniest-joke-of-the-year-award-8774567.html)


I'm in a same-sex marriage...the sex is always the same

[Edbear]

That's just religious bullshit mate. You can't have it both ways .. If you rely on Genesis narrative (the first one, not the second one) then:

Sex is a sin ... (maybe the original sin, though I'm inclined to argue that disobedieince is the original sin) .. and therefore you can only have sex if Jehovah blesses the relationship - hence the concept of marriage ... this asked for Jehovah's blessing so a couple could have sex - the priest stands in for Jehovah adn gives his blessing ...

Therefore, ALL sex outside marriage is wrong and a sin .. adn you positiion that sex is fine as long as it is not marriage can not be supported by Chriostainity - it doesn't matter whether it is same-sex or different sex .. outside marriage sex is a sin

Now, if you remove the religious overtones from the Middle Eastern-derived monotheistic religions - as most of us have - then you have no real need for marriage as a religious blessing ... it's purely a social contract ... two people publically stating their comitment to each other as a coupe ..

Your position is completely inconstent - but that's hardly a surprise.

Hence, we have changed the social contract , as any society can ...

This is correct, sex was never the original sin as after Eve was created, Jehovah brought her to Adam and performed the first marrige ceremony and told them to fill the earth with their offspring.

Throughout the millennia, marriage has always been between male and female of all cultures. Homosexuality has been around almost as long as Mankind and practised in most cultures, always as a minority and mostly looked down upon, with some notable exceptions.

From the point of view of nature, it has no advantage to the human race whatsoever and is often characterised by violence and anger. The practice is disadvantageous to the human race and spreads disease and disorder. This is not just my opinion, it is a matter of historical record.

Notable here, is that the members posting are not homosexuals and would probably be repulsed by the thought of having sex with another man, yet are extremely critical of anyone speaking against it. I find that to be hypoctritical.

My personal view is that everyone has the inherent right to make their own choices in life, and also the responsibility to accept the consequences without complaint and blaming others for said consequences. Personally I find the practice repulsive and that is nothing to do with religious persuasion, either. I couldn't even watch them kissing on TV.

[SMOKEU]

Homosexuality, and gay marriage specifically, goes strictly against my culture, so those who speak out against me should be more tolerant of my cultural needs.

[oldrider]

Heterosexuals gave marriage away to the homosexuals, the law has changed, the die is cast, get over it and get on with life! :done:

[bogan]

Homosexuality, and gay marriage specifically, goes strictly against my culture, so those who speak out against me should be more tolerant of my cultural needs.

Or we could just show you the same tolerance you show them, and jews, and whoever else your friends at stormfront tell you are bad people. Not so fun when it's going the other way is it...

[bogan]

Notable here, is that the members posting are not homosexuals and would probably be repulsed by the thought of having sex with another man, yet are extremely critical of anyone speaking against it. I find that to be hypoctritical.

Fighting for the rights of others to be the same as our own, for no personal gain to ourselves, is not hypcritical; I think it quite admirable and shows hope that as a species we are still empathetic.

Didn't some famous guy say something like? 'i do not agree with your position, but I shall fight to the death to ensure you have the right to make it'

[Edbear]

Fighting for the rights of others to be the same as our own, for no personal gain to ourselves, is not hypcritical; I think it quite admirable and shows hope that as a species we are still empathetic.

Yeah, I realised after I posted that it could be taken two ways.

What does bug me is when proponents and practicers of Homosexuality try to claim it is approved by God, or should be, and that one can be a Christian and a homosexual as though this exonerates them in the sight of God.It doesn't at all and does not alter the fact that homosexulaity is condemned in the Bible, like it or not.

Also the churches twisting or blatantly denying the scriptures to support homosexuality is hypocrisy of the highest order. That does not surprise me though, the churches have never let the scriptures get in the way of their agendas and desire for power and popularity.

Certainly, as I did say, everyone has the inherent right to make their own choices in life, but to try to excuse it on religious, or any other grounds, really, indicates a bothered conscience. Not all do, of course but a significant number of them do.

[Banditbandit]

the cognitive dissonance will explode his poor wee head!

:killingme: we can but hope ...

[bogan]

Yeah, I realised after I posted that it could be taken two ways.

What does bug me is when proponents and practicers of Homosexuality try to claim it is approved by God, or should be, and that one can be a Christian and a homosexual as though this exonerates them in the sight of God.It doesn't at all and does not alter the fact that homosexulaity is condemned in the Bible, like it or not.

Also the churches twisting or blatantly denying the scriptures to support homosexuality is hypocrisy of the highest order. That does not surprise me though, the churches have never let the scriptures get in the way of their agendas and desire for power and popularity.

Certainly, as I did say, everyone has the inherent right to make their own choices in life, but to try to excuse it on religious, or any other grounds, really, indicates a bothered conscience. Not all do, of course but a significant number of them do.

Well what way was it supposed to be taken then?

As far as I can tell you're the only one to bring that argument up, straw man is it?

[Banditbandit]

Yeah, I realised after I posted that it could be taken two ways.

What does bug me is when proponents and practicers of Homosexuality try to claim it is approved by God, or should be, and that one can be a Christian and a homosexual as though this exonerates them in the sight of God.It doesn't at all and does not alter the fact that homosexulaity is condemned in the Bible, like it or not.

Also the churches twisting or blatantly denying the scriptures to support homosexuality is hypocrisy of the highest order. That does not surprise me though, the churches have never let the scriptures get in the way of their agendas and desire for power and popularity.

Certainly, as I did say, everyone has the inherent right to make their own choices in life, but to try to excuse it on religious, or any other grounds, really, indicates a bothered conscience. Not all do, of course but a significant number of them do.

While I am definitely not Christian (and have an abiding dislike for the religion) I have to agree with you Ed - I fail to see how Christinity can be used to justify or excuse homosexuality ...

Mind you, I have also heard church ministers (ordained and all) deny the resurrection and divinity of Jesus .. so if even that can be denied by so-called Christians .. then anything goes .. which is partly why I have an abiding dislike odf the religion ... it is supposedly the divine revelations of a God - but it can be over-ruled and changed by Man .. No wonder it has no moral authority any more ..

[unstuck]

But you can just blame it on the gay male prostitute masseur if your a minister, so thats ok.:2thumbsup

[Edbear]

Well what way was it supposed to be taken then?

As far as I can tell you're the only one to bring that argument up, straw man is it?

No, what I meant to say, was about those who promote it as being good, such as I mentioned before, the media HAS to be enthusiastic about homosexuality and say publicly how wonderful it is when they personally may be repulsed by the thought. Some members here have shown the same attitude in the past.

Most members are raving heterosexuals, of course.


While I am definitely not Christian (and have an abiding dislike for the religion) I have to agree with you Ed - I fail to see how Christinity can be used to justify or excuse homosexuality ...

Mind you, I have also heard church ministers (ordained and all) deny the resurrection and divinity of Jesus .. so if even that can be denied by so-called Christians .. then anything goes .. which is partly why I have an abiding dislike odf the religion ... it is supposedly the divine revelations of a God - but it can be over-ruled and changed by Man .. No wonder it has no moral authority any more ..

Fully agree. The Bible is only an authority to those who agree with it. That's because of Mankind's inherent right to free will and choice. We choose our own authority. Christendom in particular has never adhered to the scriptures and is the ultimate example of lying hypocrisy.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Fighting for the rights of others to be the same as our own, for no personal gain to ourselves, is not hypcritical; I think it quite admirable and shows hope that as a species we are still empathetic.

Didn't some famous guy say something like? 'i do not agree with your position, but I shall fight to the death to ensure you have the right to make it'

Voltaire.

You're welcome :)


Not as in the Cabaret, but one of the foundation thinkers of the Enlightenment. Not that a lot of people posting to this thread have any truck with that sort of thing, they'd rather let all their thinking be done for them by their invisible friends

[bogan]

No, what I meant to say, was about those who promote it as being good, such as I mentioned before, the media HAS to be enthusiastic about homosexuality and say publicly how wonderful it is when they personally may be repulsed by the thought. Some members here have shown the same attitude in the past.

Most members are raving heterosexuals, of course.

Ah, so there is a conspiracy theory in the media then :rolleyes: The media in this case, just reflects the majority's views. I don't see the media as encouraging homosexuality at all, just showing that people are all for equality, and that is a good thing and something to be enthusiastic about.

[Edbear]

Ah, so there is a conspiracy theory in the media then :rolleyes: The media in this case, just reflects the majority's views. I don't see the media as encouraging homosexuality at all, just showing that people are all for equality, and that is a good thing and something to be enthusiastic about.

Since when have you been so trusting of the media? That comment is hilarious! :lol:

[bogan]

Since when have you been so trusting of the media? That comment is hilarious! :lol:

I'm not, which is why I said 'in this case'. As in, in this case it stacks up with all the other evidence around so I conclude they do not have some conspiracy theory at work; just what is your theory by the way?

[HenryDorsetCase]

What does bug me is when proponents and practicers of Homosexuality try to claim it is approved by God, or should be, and that one can be a Christian and a homosexual as though this exonerates them in the sight of God.It doesn't at all and does not alter the fact that homosexulaity is condemned in the Bible, like it or not.

My understanding (from very limited research) is that nowhere in the bible is it (homosexuality) mentioned, much less condemned.

Even if I am incorrect in that, presumably if one adheres to that proscription, one adheres to all of them? No shellfish, no pork, no shaving, no wearing clothes made out of two types of fibres, no tattoos &c?

Or is it a menu, where you can pick and choose which part of the Bronze age fairy tale to believe or not believe, obey or not obey?

[Ender EnZed]

just what is your theory by the way?

The media is run by gay Jews. It's the only reasonable explanation.

[mashman]

The media is run by gay Jews.

bless you.

[avgas]

Yeah, I realised after I posted that it could be taken two ways.
Sorry just had to repost this. Fits the thread so well.

[Edbear]

My understanding (from very limited research) is that nowhere in the bible is it (homosexuality) mentioned, much less condemned.

Even if I am incorrect in that, presumably if one adheres to that proscription, one adheres to all of them? No shellfish, no pork, no shaving, no wearing clothes made out of two types of fibres, no tattoos &c?

Or is it a menu, where you can pick and choose which part of the Bronze age fairy tale to believe or not believe, obey or not obey?

1 Cor. 6:9 What! Do you not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, 10 nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom. 11 And yet that is what some of you were.

The Mosaic Law was specifically for Israel and was done away with after Christ fulfilled the Law. It's pupose was to lead the Nation to the Messiah. Some if its laws were retained for Christians, the NT contains all that Christians should abide by now.

[Edbear]

I'm not, which is why I said 'in this case'. As in, in this case it stacks up with all the other evidence around so I conclude they do not have some conspiracy theory at work; just what is your theory by the way?

Who mentioned conspiracy theories? :facepalm: All you need to do is watch the box to see how the media portray it.

[Edbear]

Sorry just had to repost this. Fits the thread so well.

You're a sick man, avgas... :innocent:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Seriously...how or why would we/could we take anyone seriously that believes in the ramblings of the bible?

[bogan]

Who mentioned conspiracy theories? :facepalm: All you need to do is watch the box to see how the media portray it.

Your conspiracy theory is that they are portraying something that is not the majority view, as such; why would they do that?

[Banditbandit]

1 Cor. 6:9 [I]
The Mosaic Law was specifically for Israel and was done away with after Christ fulfilled the Law. It's pupose was to lead the Nation to the Messiah. Some if its laws were retained for Christians, the NT contains all that Christians should abide by now.

Matthew 5:17-20

In the Sermon on the Mount - Jesus is asked about the laws of the Pentatuch and replies ...

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. "

So ... "until all is accomplished" the Mosaic Laws still stand - and the person who does not follow the Mosaic Laws will be called the least in heaven ... at least tyou will not burn in Hell for failing to eat kosher food, for failing to make blood sacrifices ... etc etc ... you will get to heaven - but be the least there ...

Ed - as far as I can see you are picking and chosing what to follow ...

[Edbear]

Seriously...how or why would we/could we take anyone seriously that believes in the ramblings of the bible?

You're confusing the Bible as having anything to do with organised religion. It should be plainly obvious that the churches do not in any way represent the Bible. They are polar opposites. I have no regard for Christendom at all and completely understand why anyone would be adverse to religion as it is portrayed and by its record.

The Bible, in fact, condemns the churches and justifiably so.

[Edbear]

Matthew 5:17-20

In the Sermon on the Mount - Jesus is asked about the laws of the Pentatuch and replies ...

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. "

So ... "until all is accomplished" the Mosaic Laws still stand - and the person who does not follow the Mosaic Laws will be called the least in heaven ... at least tyou will not burn in Hell for failing to eat kosher food, for failing to make blood sacrifices ... etc etc ... you will get to heaven - but be the least there ...

Ed - as far as I can see you are picking and chosing what to follow ...

At risk of getting this PD'd I would just like to say I am not mistaken. I'll just post one small verse and if anyone wants to know more, perhaps they should ask the question in the RR thread.

Eph. 2:15 "By means of his flesh he abolished the enmity, the Law of commandments consisting in decrees..."

[Banditbandit]

Your conspiracy theory is that they are portraying something that is not the majority view, as such; why would they do that?

Because the news media is owned, run and produced by the ruling elite - and it is in their interestes to keep society as the pool from which they gain their wealth ...

The news media also say what training occurs in journalism schools - so new journalists are not trained to report what happens - they are trained to put on the spin that the ruling elite wish ...

it is in the interests of the ruling elite to have a compliant workforce to earn them money ... (At one point a lot of our news media was owned by Irish businessman Tony O'Reilly - who also owned Watties canneries ... do you really think he is in the information service business or the money making business???

A newspaper is a carefully crafted consumer product - designed so that people in dairies impulse buy and designed so that subscribers believe they are being told information they need to hear ... the TV and radio news is designed to attract as big an audience as possible so that the broadcast media can sell advertising slots at a premium becuase they have a bigger audience at that time ...

That is not true ... there is bugger all in a newspaper we need to hear ... it is all the propoganda bullshit of the ruling elite ...

[Banditbandit]

At risk of getting this PD'd I would just like to say I am not mistaken. I'll just post one small verse and if anyone wants to know more, perhaps they should ask the question in the RR thread.

Eph. 2:15 "By means of his flesh he abolished the enmity, the Law of commandments consisting in decrees..."

Yeeessss ... hmm ... Mathew is Jesus's words ... Ephesians is an interpretation - I'll stick with the words of the man himself ...

[Edbear]

Yeeessss ... hmm ... Mathew is Jesus's words ... Ephesians is an interpretation - I'll stick with the words of the man himself ...

Fairynuff, I'll post his words in RR.

[bogan]

Because the news media is owned, run and produced by the ruling elite - and it is in their interestes to keep society as the pool from which they gain their wealth ...

The news media also say what training occurs in journalism schools - so new journalists are not trained to report what happens - they are trained to put on the spin that the ruling elite wish ...

it is in the interests of the ruling elite to have a compliant workforce to earn them money ... (At one point a lot of our news media was owned by Irish businessman Tony O'Reilly - who also owned Watties canneries ... do you really think he is in the information service business or the money making business???

A newspaper is a carefully crafted consumer product - designed so that people in dairies impulse buy and designed so that subscribers believe they are being told information they need to hear ... the TV and radio news is designed to attract as big an audience as possible so that the broadcast media can sell advertising slots at a premium becuase they have a bigger audience at that time ...

That is not true ... there is bugger all in a newspaper we need to hear ... it is all the propoganda bullshit of the ruling elite ...

But wouldn't it be in a ruling class's favor not to promote equality, so the peasants squabble amongst themselves instead of asking why the rulers rule?

[ellipsis]

...I just checked my Bible and it mentions nothing about mens bottoms...it has a bit to say about big ends and slogged out bushes and carb balancing...

I added a bit on the fly cover to bring it up to speed which reads,

" Any person fitting ape-hangers and sissy bars to a Sportster needs fucking in the arse, married or not"

[oldrider]

Ed - as far as I can see you are picking and chosing what to follow ...

Hey doesn't everyone do that? Especially on KB! :whistle:

[Edbear]

Hey doesn't everyone do that? Especially on KB! :whistle:

KB'rs picky..? Nah, can't be true... :mellow:

[SMOKEU]

Or we could just show you the same tolerance you show them, and jews, and whoever else your friends at stormfront tell you are bad people. Not so fun when it's going the other way is it...

It's my right not to accept or encourage behaviour that conflicts with my culture and beliefs yet you insist that I do accept it all, without wanting to return the favour yourself.


Because the news media is owned, run and produced by the ruling elite - and it is in their interestes to keep society as the pool from which they gain their wealth ...

The news media also say what training occurs in journalism schools - so new journalists are not trained to report what happens - they are trained to put on the spin that the ruling elite wish ...

it is in the interests of the ruling elite to have a compliant workforce to earn them money ... (At one point a lot of our news media was owned by Irish businessman Tony O'Reilly - who also owned Watties canneries ... do you really think he is in the information service business or the money making business???

A newspaper is a carefully crafted consumer product - designed so that people in dairies impulse buy and designed so that subscribers believe they are being told information they need to hear ... the TV and radio news is designed to attract as big an audience as possible so that the broadcast media can sell advertising slots at a premium becuase they have a bigger audience at that time ...

That is not true ... there is bugger all in a newspaper we need to hear ... it is all the propoganda bullshit of the ruling elite ...

That's all Jews you're describing there.

[neels]

This thread is funny, which should be maintained...


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[bogan]

It's my right not to accept or encourage behaviour that conflicts with my culture and beliefs yet you insist that I do accept it all, without wanting to return the favour yourself.

Just as it is our right not to accept your bigoted behavior that conflicts with our culture and beliefs. What favour is it you've shown that we should be returning?

[SMOKEU]

Just as it is our right not to accept your bigoted behavior that conflicts with our culture and beliefs. What favour is it you've shown that we should be returning?

I'm not expecting anything in return. I was asked to justify my beliefs, which I believe I have done. Whether or not you believe in or accept my cultural beliefs is up to you. It really doesn't bother me either way.

[bogan]

I'm not expecting anything in return. I was asked to justify my beliefs, which I believe I have done. Whether or not you believe in or accept my cultural beliefs is up to you. It really doesn't bother me either way.

So, you've shown no favour that we should but have neglected to return then?

[HenryDorsetCase]

I'm not expecting anything in return. I was asked to justify my beliefs, which I believe I have done. Whether or not you believe in or accept my cultural beliefs is up to you. It really doesn't bother me either way.

John Donne begs to differ.

[HenryDorsetCase]

1 Cor. 6:9 What! Do you not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, 10 nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom. 11 And yet that is what some of you were.

The Mosaic Law was specifically for Israel and was done away with after Christ fulfilled the Law. It's pupose was to lead the Nation to the Messiah. Some if its laws were retained for Christians, the NT contains all that Christians should abide by now.

Lesbians are exempt. good to know. I will let our friends know when we have lunch with them.

[Banditbandit]

But wouldn't it be in a ruling class's favor not to promote equality, so the peasants squabble amongst themselves instead of asking why the rulers rule?

No. It is in the ruling elite's interest to promote the concept of equality - then define what that means ... for example - we are all free to become rich .. we all have an equal opportunity to become rich ... just look at Sir Bob Jones and John Key - both grew up in state houzes and prove that we are all free to become rich .. (Of course they are wrong) ...

But equality is not the issue - equity is ..and they are nto the same thing

It is important to note that Liberalism values Individual Freedom over equality or equity - and will sacrifice equity to keep Individual Freedom ... whereas the more left leaning socialist agenda values equity over indivdual freedom.




That's all Jews you're describing there.

Oh yeah right - all the media owners and all the ruling elite are Jewish ... Youre a dick ...

[avgas]

Unmarried talking about who should be allowed to get married is like eunuchs discussing who should have sex.
Same could be said about people talking about other religions, when they follow just one.

[Woodman]

Lesbians are exempt. good to know. I will let our friends know when we have lunch with them.



Eating out with lesbians sounds like fun. Enjoy

[Big Dave]

Eating out with lesbians sounds like fun. Enjoy

I see what you did there.

[Smifffy]

I see what you did there.

Did you get video?

What? No youtube link?

[Big Dave]

What? No youtube link?


Nope. But bad puns are always worthy.

[scumdog]

Homosexuality, and gay marriage specifically, goes strictly against my culture, so those who speak out against me should be more tolerant of my cultural needs.

Mate, in all seriousness most of the time you wouldn't know a gay if he bit you on the arse!:oi-grr:

There's guys on KB that are gay, you may have met them - but your narrow mind probably couldn't absorbe that....:rolleyes:

I'm sure bigot like you are sent to this planet to make the rest of us look good....

[98tls]

Mate, in all seriousness most of the time you wouldn't know a gay if he bit you on the arse!:oi-grr:.

Yep whats a bit of arse biting between mates:laugh:

[Smifffy]

Mate, in all seriousness most of the time you wouldn't know a gay if he bit you on the arse!:oi-grr:

There's guys on KB that are gay, you may have met them - but your narrow mind probably couldn't absorbe that....:rolleyes:



The chaps, tassels and fingerless gloves are good clues though. As is that winged emblem. :rofl::banana:

[scumdog]

The chaps, tassels and fingerless gloves are good clues though. As is that winged emblem. :rofl::banana:

You seem to know an awful lot for a straight guy..;)

[nallac]

Seriously...how or why would we/could we take anyone seriously that believes in the ramblings of the bible?


Amen..... You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Crasherfromwayback again.

[Big Dave]

What winged emblem? His is a bar and shield innit?

[Smifffy]

What winged emblem? His is a bar and shield innit?

T'was a ref to the other piece of KB folklore regarding hondasexuals.

[Smifffy]

You seem to know an awful lot for a straight guy..;)

Get back in your closet!

[jonbuoy]

This is correct, sex was never the original sin as after Eve was created, Jehovah brought her to Adam and performed the first marrige ceremony and told them to fill the earth with their offspring.

Throughout the millennia, marriage has always been between male and female of all cultures. Homosexuality has been around almost as long as Mankind and practised in most cultures, always as a minority and mostly looked down upon, with some notable exceptions.

From the point of view of nature, it has no advantage to the human race whatsoever and is often characterised by violence and anger. The practice is disadvantageous to the human race and spreads disease and disorder. This is not just my opinion, it is a matter of historical record.

Notable here, is that the members posting are not homosexuals and would probably be repulsed by the thought of having sex with another man, yet are extremely critical of anyone speaking against it. I find that to be hypoctritical.

My personal view is that everyone has the inherent right to make their own choices in life, and also the responsibility to accept the consequences without complaint and blaming others for said consequences. Personally I find the practice repulsive and that is nothing to do with religious persuasion, either. I couldn't even watch them kissing on TV.

Pretty sure a lot of people find the idea of having sex with a big fat ugly chick with facial hair repulsive - doesn´t mean it should be illegal to do so. I don´t get why people get so worked up about it - sex of any type can cause violence, anger, disease and disorder.

One thing I´ve never worked out - why are gay guys we see in the media funny and entertaining but lesbians are usually come across as angry and dull?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Eating out with lesbians sounds like fun. Enjoy

I'm looking forward to a long lunch with wine. Likely I will be the designated driver though.

[98tls]

One thing I´ve never worked out - why are gay guys we see in the media funny and entertaining but lesbians are usually come across as angry and dull?

Theres nothing funny nor entertaining about Rodney Hide.

[Banditbandit]

Pretty sure a lot of people find the idea of having sex with a big fat ugly chick with facial hair repulsive - ?

That's a massive stereo-typing of lesbians ...

[SMOKEU]

So, you've shown no favour that we should but have neglected to return then?

I'm just saying that people shouldn't expect me to accept gay marriage if they don't respect my beliefs to not like the thought of gays getting married.


Mate, in all seriousness most of the time you wouldn't know a gay if he bit you on the arse!:oi-grr:

There's guys on KB that are gay, you may have met them - but your narrow mind probably couldn't absorbe that....:rolleyes:

I'm sure bigot like you are sent to this planet to make the rest of us look good....

I don't go around getting bitten in the ass by anyone, especially not by guys. I don't know what fetishes you're into.

Also, even if I have met gay Kiwibikers, I don't have anything against them as they have never tried anything sexual toward me.

[imdying]

I don't have anything against them as they have never tried anything sexual toward me.Come on mate, you'd be a little flattered at least :msn-wink:

[avgas]

I'm just saying that people shouldn't expect me to accept gay marriage if they don't respect my beliefs to not like the thought of gays getting married.



I don't go around getting bitten in the ass by anyone, especially not by guys. I don't know what fetishes you're into.

Also, even if I have met gay Kiwibikers, I don't have anything against them as they have never tried anything sexual toward me.
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[Smifffy]

I'm just saying that people shouldn't expect me to accept gay marriage if they don't respect my beliefs to not like the thought of gays getting married.



I don't go around getting bitten in the ass by anyone, especially not by guys. I don't know what fetishes you're into.

Also, even if I have met gay Kiwibikers, I don't have anything against them as they have never tried anything sexual toward me.

Surely if they were married, the odds would be even lower that they would try anything sexual toward you?

[SMOKEU]

Surely if they were married, the odds would be even lower that they would try anything sexual toward you?

How so? These days marriage seems to be worth little more than a piece of paper and an excuse to have a big pissup, so I doubt that it's going to stop people from straying, gay or otherwise. People shouldn't need a piece of paper to make them monogamous.

[bluninja]

How so? These days marriage seems to be worth little more than a piece of paper and an excuse to have a big pissup, so I doubt that it's going to stop people from straying, gay or otherwise. People shouldn't need a piece of paper to make them monogamous.

Agree, perhaps we should get women to cover themselves from head to foot so nobody gets tempted; and men to wear robes so you can't lech at them. Oops some cultures already do that :)

To the original title. I think this new law has made it so obvious that "normal" marriage is no longer special in the eyes of government. However it's just a sign post against the decay of the role of marriage in society. Perhaps there will be more changes to come....why have bigamy laws? you can live with multiple partners in enduring relationships legally, but try to get married more than once concurrently and off to jail you go.

[Smifffy]

How so? These days marriage seems to be worth little more than a piece of paper and an excuse to have a big pissup, so I doubt that it's going to stop people from straying, gay or otherwise. People shouldn't need a piece of paper to make them monogamous.

So far you appear to hold the positions that:

1. You don't care about gays or what they do as long as they don't hit on you

2. Marriage is worthless and just a pice of paper and a piss up.


So why do you care so much about people that you don't care about doing something worthless that you also don't care about?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Ive just been invited to a wedding from a couple who already have a Civil Union. It would be a great party but I dont think I can go :(

[mashman]

Ive just been invited to a wedding from a couple who already have a Civil Union. It would be a great party but I dont think I can go :(

STFU you drama queen... unless it's tomorrow you still have plenty of time to find an outfit that doesn't make your arse look big.

[Banditbandit]

STFU you drama queen... unless it's tomorrow you still have plenty of time to find an outfit that doesn't make your arse look big.

Maybe it's the opposite problem .. he wants an outfit that makes his arse look big and/or tempting .. it's a gay wedding after all ..

[unstuck]

Maybe it's the opposite problem .. he wants an outfit that makes his arse look big and/or tempting .. it's a gay wedding after all ..

Its called tweaking these days.:msn-wink:

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[Banditbandit]

Ummm ... that looks painful ... fascinating like a train wreck .. and not sexy at all ..

[mashman]

Maybe it's the opposite problem .. he wants an outfit that makes his arse look big and/or tempting .. it's a gay wedding after all ..

True... butt not everyone likes big buts.


Its called tweaking these days.:msn-wink:

Slap some oil on that and you've got a damned fine back massage machine. Sure, I say back where I really mean penis, but hey, I'm trying to be sensitive today.

[Smifffy]

Its called tweaking these days.:msn-wink:



Twerking.

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[Smifffy]

Pay attention Smokey:

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[Big Dave]

So why do you care so much ........ don't care about?

Because you bite.

[oldrider]

Pay attention Smokey:

They left out one important detail in that stupid video clip ... gay's can't stand the touch smell or taste of women ... no contest! :bleh: Cheeky cunts! :sick:

[unstuck]

Twerking.

+10 booty shakin chars

I stand corrected.:2thumbsup

Must of been thinking of boobs when I should of been thinking of butts.:spanking:

[Teflon]

Ha ha. If 'gay' was genetic it would have un-bred it's way to extinction 1000s of years ago huh? I mean ... generally gay people don't breed ... and if they do their kids would be gay and sooner or later they stop breeding and the line would die.

Hey guess what I'm doing on 22 September?
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Attending my gay daughter's wedding.

Nice:yes: is your daughter's bitch hot? I think we need photos...

[SMOKEU]

So far you appear to hold the positions that:

1. You don't care about gays or what they do as long as they don't hit on you

2. Marriage is worthless and just a pice of paper and a piss up.


So why do you care so much about people that you don't care about doing something worthless that you also don't care about?

Gay marriage is another step toward eroding the good old fashioned white family values, and attempting to replace it with homosexuality and other such abhorrent activities.


Agree, perhaps we should get women to cover themselves from head to foot so nobody gets tempted; and men to wear robes so you can't lech at them. Oops some cultures already do that :)


Obese chicks should be made to cover up from head to toe as I don't want to see all that flab sticking out, but if they're alright looking then I want something to perve at so less = more in some cases.

[avgas]

Gay marriage is another step toward eroding the good old fashioned white family values, and attempting to replace it with homosexuality and other such abhorrent activities.
Like doing the neighbour. Or marriage outside of family.

How the times have changed.

[oldrider]

Soon (thanks to Liabour) NZ will have it's first (openly) Gay "Prime Minister" and then they will try it on for the first Gay Government! :jerry:

And it will be the Heterosexual public that will give it to them just they way they gave them marriage etc etc etc etc etc etc :facepalm:

[unstuck]

I dont really think Robertson has much of a chance to get elected myself, maybe one day, but cannot see it being soon. Still too many homophobes around.:devil2:

[oldrider]

I dont really think Robertson has much of a chance to get elected myself, maybe one day, but cannot see it being soon. Still too many homophobes around.:devil2:

I went out for tea tonight and the TV was on in the bar but I couldn't hear any sound from where I was sitting, Robertson appeared to be getting a lot of air time!

My point is that the homosexual public do not have the numbers to change things in their favour without the assistance of heterosexual supporters it wouldn't happen!

So heterosexuals should stop blaming the homo's and take a good look in the mirror, if they want to "blame" anybody! :rolleyes: Just an observation.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Here's an unusual marriage for ya all.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11112599

[Banditbandit]

I dont really think Robertson has much of a chance to get elected myself, maybe one day, but cannot see it being soon. Still too many homophobes around.:devil2:

I'm not so sure ... the LGTB community plus the liberal hetero community may well outnumber the rest .. but only time will tell .. I would not put money on this one either way ... only an election will tell us what the majority think ...

After all conservative heartland Wairarapa elected Georgina Byer ..

[Banditbandit]

Gay marriage is another step toward eroding the good old fashioned white family values, and attempting to replace it with homosexuality and other such abhorrent activities.



:killingme: Fuck your ignorance is laughable ...

The old fashioned family values of which you speak only became such after WWII - abiout 60 years old ...

[unstuck]

I'm not so sure ... the LGTB community plus the liberal hetero community may well outnumber the rest .. but only time will tell .. I would not put money on this one either way ... only an election will tell us what the majority think ...

After all conservative heartland Wairarapa elected Georgina Byer ..

Funnily enough it was reading an article with Georgina Byer that got me thinking about if NZ were ready for a openly gay PM...http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9083770/Gay-prime-minister-may-be-a-step-too-far

[SMOKEU]

:killingme: Fuck your ignorance is laughable ...

The old fashioned family values of which you speak only became such after WWII - abiout 60 years old ...

I believe it goes back much further than that.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Soon (thanks to Liabour) NZ will have it's first (openly) Gay "Prime Minister" and then they will try it on for the first Gay Government! :jerry:

And it will be the Heterosexual public that will give it to them just they way they gave them marriage etc etc etc etc etc etc :facepalm:

Not gonna happen with Labour polling early 30's. And Grant Robertson (who I think is a reasonable guy, and has been quite good sticking it up djonkey and the lumpy minions in the House) wouldn't be a bad choice. Of the three running he is my pick actually. I think Shane Jones would possibly be as good but his, erm, baggage makes him unelectable as leader because all the Nazionals have to do during the erection campaign is remind the stupid about his transgressions in 2007, thus making him unelectable as PM.

Andrew Trotsky Little I had no time for, and David Fishlips wants it waaaay too much.

[Smifffy]

Not gonna happen with Labour polling early 30's. And Grant Robertson (who I think is a reasonable guy, and has been quite good sticking it up djonkey and the lumpy minions in the House) wouldn't be a bad choice. Of the three running he is my pick actually. I think Shane Jones would possibly be as good but his, erm, baggage makes him unelectable as leader because all the Nazionals have to do during the erection campaign is remind the stupid about his transgressions in 2007, thus making him unelectable as PM.

Andrew Trotsky Little I had no time for, and David Fishlips wants it waaaay too much.

Whoever gets it will be a sacrificial goat. They'll be hard pressed to peg the Nats back, unless the nats score several more own goals, which seem to be overlooked by the electorate. Shortly after the election, Little will make his move.

[oldrider]

Have to agree with HDC, Grant Robinson the man and the politician looks more like the man the party need to be lead by, out of those on offer! :corn:

I think that the gay factor will work against him at this point in time but I have been wrong before. :rolleyes:

Actually, they all have got baggage they don't need! :shifty:

Still think Labour are getting more traction now on this leadership issue in TV and media circles than they deserve but when you have nothing else ... grab it! :stupid:

[Banditbandit]

I do wonder - given discussion in this thread and in otrhers - why many of you are talking about who would make the best Labour leader ... Many of you taking part will never vote Labour so why should you care ???

Many of you are completely anti-Labour ,.. so why do you care ??

Some of you may change your vote to Labour if there is a better candidate ... I wonder who ...??

[Banditbandit]

I believe it goes back much further than that.

Go here ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_values

Or here (tho' it's much the same as wikipedia)

http://www.answers.com/topic/family-values#History_of_.27family_values.27_in_United_St ates_politics

[oldrider]

I do wonder - given discussion in this thread and in otrhers - why many of you are talking about who would make the best Labour leader ... Many of you taking part will never vote Labour so why should you care ???

Many of you are completely anti-Labour ,.. so why do you care ??

Some of you may change your vote to Labour if there is a better candidate ... I wonder who ...??

Absolutely correct, I voted Labour "once" in the early sixties ... my "first vote" wasted, damn it! (we had to be twenty one to vote back then) Never again!

The reason it's OK for us to talk about the "labour leadership charade" is because "we pay for it" (as tax payers) whether we like it or not! :angry2:

[MisterD]

Many of you are completely anti-Labour ,.. so why do you care ??

Because with our take-it-in-turns-between-two-narrowly-different-socialist-parties system, it's odds-on that whoever it is will be PM either this time, or next and it will change the likelyhood between those two possibilities.