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Woodman
27th February 2014, 08:07
247-bong or no bong I know whats what. 248-TT&XR5,XR&XT6 are my trotters which are porky pigs while the RM&YZ 250'S deliver the frightning lightning everytime as did the old kx500.......fr50 is um-lets forget about that one for now-u might get all interested!

Go away.......

10bikekid
27th February 2014, 12:36
247-bong or no bong I know whats what. 248-TT&XR5,XR&XT6 are my trotters which are porky pigs while the RM&YZ 250'S deliver the frightning lightning everytime as did the old kx500.......fr50 is um-lets forget about that one for now-u might get all interested!

You were looking for a rise, you got it:kick:, now be honest your green with Envy :stoogie: :msn-wink:

dino3310
27th February 2014, 20:44
Just scanned in this pic of my '79 XR185
I was doing some work on it at my flat. Bought her brand spanking :spanking: in '79 before arriving in NZ :Punk:

i'll second that :Punk: and raise you a :rockon:

dino3310
23rd March 2014, 12:16
the 6 speed :weird: 500 is back http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-709453236.htm

dino3310
23rd March 2014, 12:19
or the pro link XL http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-709438246.htm watch out though it might rip your arms of with the brutal power:laugh:

10bikekid
23rd March 2014, 14:34
or the pro link XL http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-709438246.htm watch out though it might rip your arms of with the brutal power:laugh:

I think its the supercharged version:shutup:, South Islanders (past Taopo) have all the good models :facepalm:

10bikekid
23rd March 2014, 14:36
the 6 speed :weird: 500 is back http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-709453236.htm

The word butchered come to mind, rode a STD one just yesterday (will report later) and the thought of one with a 250 gearbox and no balancers is a no go :nono:

dino3310
23rd March 2014, 18:22
The word butchered come to mind, rode a STD one just yesterday (will report later) and the thought of one with a 250 gearbox and no balancers is a no go :nono:

dont understand the 6 speed in the 500, theres enough torque to put in taller gearing for the highway and the balancer.... would be like riding a chainsaw with those vibes

Sensei
23rd March 2014, 19:06
Don't see why you would put a gear set that is built for a 250cc motor into a 500cc engine that is just asking for a failure in a Bad way !

Muzz67
23rd March 2014, 19:30
Don't see why you would put a gear set that is built for a 250cc motor into a 500cc engine that is just asking for a failure in a Bad way !

Plenty of the 250 boxes layin around,, 500ones all knackered. 500's without balancers not a good idea!

10bikekid
23rd March 2014, 22:32
All the above reason being why I snubbed:no: that bike even though I'm desperate to get my hands on one (but only a goodun)

O well will play 2 stroke in the mean time for a while (performance is similar as we rode together yesterday) :banana:

Sensei
24th March 2014, 15:34
Plenty of the 250 boxes layin around,, 500ones all knackered. 500's without balancers not a good idea!

None of my 5 - 500's have had or got any problem with their 5spd trans ..... The only way to do the job right with removing the balancers out of a XR or XL 500's is to fully balance all major moving parts then you should be good to go

Muzz67
24th March 2014, 19:31
None of my 5 - 500's have had or got any problem with their 5spd trans ..... The only way to do the job right with removing the balancers out of a XR or XL 500's is to fully balance all major moving parts then you should be good to go
Hmmm, meybe I need to pay a bit more for parts! Still not found a box without worn out hardfacing/chipped teeth/rounded dogs/1st needing an extra shim.

jasonu
25th March 2014, 16:00
dont understand the 6 speed in the 500, theres enough torque to put in taller gearing for the highway and the balancer.... would be like riding a chainsaw with those vibes

Not a bad looking bike all the same. As long as the original gear box is included it could be put back to stock. $3k though... sounds like a lot to me.

jasonu
25th March 2014, 16:04
None of my 5 - 500's have had or got any problem with their 5spd trans ..... The only way to do the job right with removing the balancers out of a XR or XL 500's is to fully balance all major moving parts then you should be good to go

I've seen more than one with the front sprocket welded to the shaft...
I had an 81 500 that broke a couple of teeth from the clutch gear and took the primary gear with it. KERBLAMMO!!!

Sensei
25th March 2014, 16:29
Its like everything if you treat it right & run the right oil in your big singles with a least 2800+ PPM zinc you shouldn't have to much trouble .... But as above things don't always go this way & failures are the result this goes for almost anything

10bikekid
25th March 2014, 18:07
Just broke a 30 year drought and took this beauty for a ride :headbang:

I near cried :cry:when I had to give it back, my one will turn up one day :drool:

Muzz67
25th March 2014, 19:29
Just broke a 30 year drought and took this beauty for a ride :headbang:

I near cried :cry:when I had to give it back, my one will turn up one day :drool:
Wow, thats pretty nice! Not sure mine will ever be that nice again.
What was yer impression? Heavy, low,and vibraty?
Not sure why they so appealing aye?, but I love riding mine!

10bikekid
25th March 2014, 19:46
Wow, thats pretty nice! Not sure mine will ever be that nice again.
What was yer impression? Heavy, low,and vibraty?
Not sure why they so appealing aye?, but I love riding mine!

I was quite surprised actually, will go with low and Viby, but this one had power to burn, I think the low weight is what gives that impression,(My DRBIG is about another 50kg) it did have a 510 piston and I'm unsure what compression it was but she was more torquey than I expected and wheelied as easy as I remember them to

I liked it a lot and once personalised to how I like things would make one awesome ADV bike, even if for nostalger alone

Muzz67
26th March 2014, 07:20
Thats the push I needed to get mine road-legal again!
Am gonna need a few parts, like a headlight, speedo, tail-light. Also sidecovers too if poss.
Please let me know if any available,
Cheers,
Muzz. 0211320763 or PM.

NordieBoy
26th March 2014, 17:30
Thats the push I needed to get mine road-legal again!
Am gonna need a few parts, like a headlight, speedo, tail-light. Also sidecovers too if poss.
Please let me know if any available,
Cheers,
Muzz. 0211320763 or PM.

Just gave all my left over bits to NordieBro (Shane).

pete-blen
2nd April 2014, 17:47
perfect use for a XR / XL500 motor...:crazy:

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_139641770191911&key=34762fb5761dc247f55c8a8e247c5fb4&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chinariders.net%2Fshowthread. php%3Fp%3D165514%23post165514&v=1&libId=b2ce4608-a213-4e2d-88ae-e1d0b683d11c&out=http%3A%2F%2Fkpr.craigslist.org%2Fmcy%2F440189 5898.html&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chinariders.net%2F&title=500cc%20minibike%3F!%20-%20ChinaRiders%20Forums&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fkpr.craigslist.org%2Fmcy%2F440189 5898.html

NordieBoy
2nd April 2014, 18:13
perfect use for a XR / XL500 motor...:crazy:

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_139641770191911&key=34762fb5761dc247f55c8a8e247c5fb4&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chinariders.net%2Fshowthread. php%3Fp%3D165514%23post165514&v=1&libId=b2ce4608-a213-4e2d-88ae-e1d0b683d11c&out=http%3A%2F%2Fkpr.craigslist.org%2Fmcy%2F440189 5898.html&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chinariders.net%2F&title=500cc%20minibike%3F!%20-%20ChinaRiders%20Forums&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fkpr.craigslist.org%2Fmcy%2F440189 5898.html

Wonder what killed the son...

Muzz67
2nd April 2014, 18:50
gonna be road-legal???

10bikekid
2nd April 2014, 20:04
I'm thinking it would be very close to a religious experience indeed, but I do believe that unless your God this is an example of having to much power :yes:

NordieBoy
3rd April 2014, 06:57
There was a young guy on visordown back in the day who put a CR500 engine in a Gilera 125 motard chassis. Killed him first time out on it...

Muzz67
3rd April 2014, 07:02
There was a young guy on visordown back in the day who put a CR500 engine in a Gilera 125 motard chassis. Killed him first time out on it...

Local guy (you know him too, Nordie) has a cr500 in a cr125 chassis too,, apparently there may be a 700cc conversion in the future......

10bikekid
3rd April 2014, 09:37
Have a mag article that shows a Vespa powered by a 500 stroke engine it had one track outing and then disappeared from the pages of NZ motorcycle history, will try and dig it out to get more details.

I dont think people relize how scary high Hp and torque and short chassis and small wheels can be

I had a 250 Gagiva gear boxed Go-kart and on old tires it was near impossible to carry any speed out of a corner without spinning out.
You also had to change gear almost immediately in each gear to not over rev it, though once on the straights it would gobble up the non gear boxed 100 & 125 carts like they weren't moving. :woohoo:

dino3310
3rd April 2014, 19:05
I dont think people relize how scary high Hp and torque and short chassis and small wheels can be

:woohoo:

MR Buell realised this and made the scary fun:Punk:

pete-blen
3rd April 2014, 19:27
I dont think people relize how scary high Hp and torque and short chassis and small wheels can be



Not anything to do with XRs
BUT
How cool is this mini bike

<a href="http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/petenz1/media/0104.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg563/petenz1/0104.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 0104.jpg"/></a>

NordieBoy
3rd April 2014, 20:25
Love the speedo :D

NordieBoy
3rd April 2014, 20:30
Local guy (you know him too, Nordie) has a cr500 in a cr125 chassis too,, apparently there may be a 700cc conversion in the future......

This young guy was at the "teaching himself to weld" stage.

Seen pics of a nice CRF250 engine in an 80cc frame...

fridayflash
29th April 2014, 21:45
ive just bought myself an xl500s..lets face it, i want an xr500A but its not happening at the mo..the examples that are croping up are either too rough or too Expensive or both! anyway the bike i got is original 16,000kms on the clock, comes with road gear but deregistered. a good enough start, itll get a general cleanup and a repaint in monza red/black and new decals and a re-vin..fingers x'd itll go through easy enough. also i must add that i have a mate who owned two xr500's back in the '80s one bought new...i must get him to join kb as he has a lot of xr500a pics. he is looking for another one (arent we all) so if anyone knows of an xr500a, xl500s etc let me know

cheers, eddie.

fridayflash
29th April 2014, 22:04
this is my purchase..

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=296674&d=1398765675


this is the intended colour and decals


http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=296667&d=1398765166

10bikekid
29th April 2014, 22:20
Nice one Eddie, I nearly bought an XL500 in red a while back but got the auction closing times mixed up :pinch:

I had A brand new 1979 XR500Z back in the day and perhaps subconsciously I couldn't settle for the XL even if it looked close

Thing is though My mate had an XL at the same time as I had the XR and I rode around on a couple myself later on and they are better on the road and don't stall like the XR off-road, I took and XL around the North Shore rocks years ago and it was unstoppable even at low speed so you probable got a good thing there as an all round ADV bike :niceone:

fridayflash
29th April 2014, 22:45
cheers man, adv and road riding is the plan for it, part of me would like ti 'xr-ise' it but that would be a little pretenious, altho if i came by an xr headlight and rear guard/tool pouch id be tempted to fit them:devil2: ive only ever ridden an xr500 but understand the main differences between the motors is the xl having a heavier flywheel and two mm smaller carby (pumper) ...adding to the torque down low you mention :cool:

10bikekid
29th April 2014, 22:57
cheers man, adv and road riding is the plan for it, part of me would like ti 'xr-ise' it but that would be a little pretenious, altho if i came by an xr headlight and rear guard/tool pouch id be tempted to fit them:devil2: ive only ever ridden an xr500 but understand the main differences between the motors is the xl having a heavier flywheel and two mm smaller carby (pumper) ...adding to the torque down low you mention :cool:

Those things and a milder cam made the XL a lot more civilized and yes better down low, (but did cost a few HP)

Have done about 25.000 ks mostly on XR's but some on XL's and am hoping to find a good one in the next few years to revisit my youth also

PS, would fit the XR bits in a flash (excuse the pun) and if you did longer shox and a terry kit, bingo you have an XR that doesn't stall

Sensei
29th April 2014, 22:57
.... Love my USA import XL500s as they had the XR single speedo & a different colour way .. And with my own modifications I have done to it to fully sort for road blasting but keeping it close to stock looking I enjoy all to excellent feed back where ever I take it

10bikekid
29th April 2014, 23:04
.... Love my USA import XL500s as they had the XR single speedo & a different colour way .. And with my own modifications I have done to it to fully sort for road blasting but keeping it close to stock looking I enjoy all to excellent feed back where ever I take it

Nice

Boy I'm kicking myself for not getting that red one now:brick:

Sensei
29th April 2014, 23:12
Nice

Boy I'm kicking myself for not getting that red one now:brick:

Yea had to have this to go with my XR500 & the 2 TT500 & 1 XT500 plus my 1975 TL250 4valve trials bike life's tough !

fridayflash
29th April 2014, 23:27
.... Love my USA import XL500s as they had the XR single speedo & a different colour way .. And with my own modifications I have done to it to fully sort for road blasting but keeping it close to stock looking I enjoy all to excellent feed back where ever I take it

thats a hot lookin xl sensei, i like that american colour scheme..monza red huh? i had considered painting my xl185s like that. btw, are those ohlins shocks on that 500s? ive seen pics of your lineup before...frucken impressive!!

10bikekid
30th April 2014, 08:53
You may have seen them here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/160576-XR500-(and-similar)-legends-and-lies-thread?p=1130601864#post1130601864

And here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/160576-XR500-(and-similar)-legends-and-lies-thread?p=1130662207#post1130662207

Hope you don't mind me bumping those posts Sensei but we need something to keep us going :yes:

Would like to hear a twin shock XR XL comparo but will have to wait to you complete collection, I'm pretty sure I could do that from memory but it would be nice to compare notes :scratch:

fridayflash
30th April 2014, 10:32
yes its a hot looking lineup, and seems like taranaki has a decent muster of old thumpers.i have a few thumper enthusiast contacts and friends here in hawkes bay all past and present xr and tt/xt owners so hoping to get a bit of a posse together

fridayflash
30th April 2014, 10:37
hey 10bikes you mentioned longer shocks and a terry kit...is the terry kit still avail? taking the forks from 8" up to 8.8" travel i understand? and when you say longer shocks...do you roughly know what length the xr500 rear shocks are? i thought they were all 400 eye to eye but maybe the xr is more than that...or the xl a bit less

10bikekid
30th April 2014, 11:36
hey 10bikes you mentioned longer shocks and a terry kit...is the terry kit still avail? taking the forks from 8" up to 8.8" travel i understand? and when you say longer shocks...do you roughly know what length the xr500 rear shocks are? i thought they were all 400 eye to eye but maybe the xr is more than that...or the xl a bit less

I remember when my Terry Kit arrived (about 1980), it was basically a 1" longer piston cone with holes in slightly different places, fitted it straight away and it gave a full 9.8" of travel (stock XR 8.8"). bike then became a chopper and wheelied everywhere untill a few days later when the SMW Shox arrived to add to rear travel 8.8" up from 7.8", supension was twice as good as stock for the Hare and Hound racing I was doing at the time but for ADV riding I would think the Stock XR bits would convert your XL to an XR replica and be just fine, would have to measure my mates XR to give you a shock length and E bay might be the place to get the bits ?

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/1979-honda-xr500

This is interesting no parts though http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-xr500_model380/

This is Cool http://www.genuinemotorcycleparts.com/parts/Honda/XR-500/

And had these bits http://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-HONDA-XR500-FRONT-FORKS-SHOCKS-SHOCK-ABSORBERS-XR-XL-250-500-600-80-/331187506521?

Sensei
30th April 2014, 13:21
thats a hot lookin xl sensei, i like that american colour scheme..monza red huh? i had considered painting my xl185s like that. btw, are those ohlins shocks on that 500s? ive seen pics of your lineup before...frucken impressive!!

Yea Ohlins rear shocks as all the other Bikes have as well .... Haven't finished buying yet a couple more to go LOL.

fridayflash
30th April 2014, 17:38
Yea Ohlins rear shocks as all the other Bikes have as well .... Haven't finished buying yet a couple more to go LOL.

what length eye to eye do ohlins quote for the xl500s shock sensei?

DR Girl
30th April 2014, 18:42
Wow cool bike Eddie !!!! :headbang::banana::2thumbsup Well done :clap:

Must admit my softest spot was for my second hand orange '75 ? XL 175 not my brand new '79 XR 185
I agree with cassina, lower seat was great & easier to start. I'm bit of a girl LoL

You still in the warmer Hawkes Bay Ed . . . . or back in Chch ?

400sm
30th April 2014, 18:53
Greetings chaps

Had two new XR 500s back in the day. Great bikes...great times !

I put S&W shocks on my 'A'. ( after previous experience on my 'Z')

Geez they were Cool !
2 coil springs of different rates, on each shock.
The ride was plusher...and the damping was wonderful.

Had a new red (soon to turn pink!) Don Vesco tank as well.
Alpine Stars Roger de Coster MX boots :cool:

....ahhh....those were the days.....

Great to see you fullas keeping the faith.

Muzz67
30th April 2014, 19:15
Found this pic from a couple of years ago,, '79 XR500 on sweeper onto front straight Powerbuilt Chch.
'84 XR250re front forks and disc hub with 17inch 250re rear rim laced onto it.
Actually worked really well! Scraping footpegs and wearing the sides off my boots on most corners.
Probably didn't get over 150kph, but cornered real good!
http://i.imgur.com/CSerGTo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FAcgo0R.jpg

fridayflash
30th April 2014, 20:39
hi robyn, yep still in the bay...ive got work on and the moneys a bit better...and the weather a lot better at the mo! will consider going back for winter or in spring depending on workload here. p.s i always liked those orange xl175s!!!!!!!!!

10bikekid
30th April 2014, 21:07
Wow we are really going for it for KB thread (can't keep up:cool:)

10bikekid
30th April 2014, 21:14
Greetings chaps

Had two new XR 500s back in the day. Great bikes...great times !

I put S&W shocks on my 'A'. ( after previous experience on my 'Z')

Geez they were Cool !
2 coil springs of different rates, on each shock.
The ride was plusher...and the damping was wonderful.

Had a new red (soon to turn pink!) Don Vesco tank as well.
Alpine Stars Roger de Coster MX boots :cool:

....ahhh....those were the days.....

Great to see you fullas keeping the faith.

My experience was pretty similar except Mine were both Z's, one a brand spanker the other only a year old, put SMW's on the second one and would agree with your findings, yes plush they were. :yes:

Pretty sure I had the Alpine Stars to but wore Redbands mostly on the road and used boots for racing

ahh those were the days :banana:

fridayflash
30th April 2014, 21:15
yep, post #305 and counting 10bikes quite a successful thread you started:headbang:

10bikekid
30th April 2014, 22:03
Found this pic from a couple of years ago,, '79 XR500 on sweeper onto front straight Powerbuilt Chch.
'84 XR250re front forks and disc hub with 17inch 250re rear rim laced onto it.
Actually worked really well! Scraping footpegs and wearing the sides off my boots on most corners.
Probably didn't get over 150kph, but cornered real good!
https://j4ypdg.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y2pvO6oy5I6NXsk-hXbBxnD39Y8SHNr8qlE2l7LkAbxRrRSFwBtNAJP-DfQN_FeWUppHzRBiu4_EkOanvyBIUm_cws3l1Tqd7nFRbjH3Li ksBE/Scan0004.jpg
https://j4ypdg.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y2pmnABomA4Rs0Jb1jZR9HMRIhUN6xQz1wvzD-kwOJHB-tCTBev-4PoSC0IA-f832VjzYHer6pf_iBI6IOi7BrBpszL-NM-TTLsRoPvLg8EDjo/9-10-2006%20Ruapuna%20Wangapeka%20House%20002.jpg?psid= 1

That's annoying I cant see the pics :brick:

10bikekid
30th April 2014, 22:10
Yea Ohlins rear shocks as all the other Bikes have as well .... Haven't finished buying yet a couple more to go LOL.

Oh I needs some Ohlins shocks, the bike can come later (where do you get yours from? )


I bought a brand new XL500 in 79 and can remember riding it home and felt it was going to wheel stand when taking off after spending 2 weeks on a CG110 loaner bike. I loved that bike around town but it would get blown around in side winds on the open road. I miss the chunky comfortable seat and lower seat height than modern mid price dual road/trail bikes don't have.

Yep wheel stands thats what they do, the flightiness I think is due to the low weight to height ratio, I found 110kph an ok speed to travel at on the XR XL's after that you needed you race face if doing any distance, was young so didn't notice to much back then though.
<a href="http://s603.photobucket.com/user/800rider/media/7c63110d-7a55-4949-9d00-a50dab087d02_zpsffd31b4e.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt119/800rider/7c63110d-7a55-4949-9d00-a50dab087d02_zpsffd31b4e.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 7c63110d-7a55-4949-9d00-a50dab087d02_zpsffd31b4e.jpg"/></a>

Muzz67
1st May 2014, 06:56
That's annoying I cant see the pics :brick:
Bugger. anyone else see them?

Sensei
1st May 2014, 10:49
what length eye to eye do ohlins quote for the xl500s shock sensei?

Length is 420mm long .... Ohlins dont make shocks just for XL/XR
These were of Husqvarna MX bike that just happend to be the right length & then sorted springs etc to suit my liking for the road .... Anything possible with abit of $$$$$

fridayflash
1st May 2014, 22:14
Bugger. anyone else see them?

i couldnt see the pic either mate...is it the same one in the old school cool thread?

10bikekid
1st May 2014, 22:31
hey 10bikes you mentioned longer shocks and a terry kit...is the terry kit still avail? taking the forks from 8" up to 8.8" travel i understand? and when you say longer shocks...do you roughly know what length the xr500 rear shocks are? i thought they were all 400 eye to eye but maybe the xr is more than that...or the xl a bit less


Length is 420mm long .... Ohlins dont make shocks just for XL/XR
These were of Husqvarna MX bike that just happend to be the right length & then sorted springs etc to suit my liking for the road .... Anything possible with abit of $$$$$

Looks like the Stock XR length is 17.5" 444.5mm, and that rings a bell, expect 420 is close to stock XL length and the S&W Strokers were probably 18" 457mm http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html/?_nkw=xr500%20shock
<a href="http://s603.photobucket.com/user/800rider/media/567876c1-0e6c-488f-90e6-77c88db441d4_zps68920bbf.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt119/800rider/567876c1-0e6c-488f-90e6-77c88db441d4_zps68920bbf.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 567876c1-0e6c-488f-90e6-77c88db441d4_zps68920bbf.jpg"/></a>
35 year old pic looking a bit worse for wear but S&W's are in shot

PS, look what I found in my search, phew only in America https://www.facebook.com/theroyalracer/posts/549682285080579:eek:

Padmei
2nd May 2014, 13:26
http://www.bikeexif.com/adventure-motorcycles

fridayflash
2nd May 2014, 20:34
http://www.bikeexif.com/adventure-motorcycles

very good padmei, i like the tough old xr600...getting scarce to find in orig form nowadays

fridayflash
2nd May 2014, 20:42
Looks like the Stock XR length is 17.5" 444.5mm, and that rings a bell, expect 420 is close to stock XL length and the S&W Strokers were probably 18" 457mm http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html/?_nkw=xr500%20shock
<a href="http://s603.photobucket.com/user/800rider/media/567876c1-0e6c-488f-90e6-77c88db441d4_zps68920bbf.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt119/800rider/567876c1-0e6c-488f-90e6-77c88db441d4_zps68920bbf.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 567876c1-0e6c-488f-90e6-77c88db441d4_zps68920bbf.jpg"/></a>
35 year old pic looking a bit worse for wear but S&W's are in shot

PS, look what I found in my search, phew only in America https://www.facebook.com/theroyalracer/posts/549682285080579:eek:


aha, i know those shocks now, ive seen them...actually just the other day, in a photo that is. ive a mate with quite a few 500a pics, he's a new member ok kb so hopefully he'll be able to scan and post some up soon

NordieBoy
3rd May 2014, 09:01
Mine had Works Performance shocks with triple springs per shock. Had to pull one of the springs off to give out any sag at all, and then only 5-10mm...

Always wanted to stick a PE swingarm on it...

Muzz67
3rd May 2014, 12:41
That's annoying I cant see the pics :brick:
This time??

http://i.imgur.com/FAcgo0R.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CSerGTo.jpg

fridayflash
3rd May 2014, 19:10
yep, great success this time mate....is that ruapuna?

10bikekid
3rd May 2014, 20:27
This time??

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Thats real awesome, I'm thinking dirt bike helmet would have been hard work?, cant provide XR pics like that but have these of DR
Mega fun doing this stuff on these kind of bikes :banana:
<a href="http://s603.photobucket.com/user/800rider/media/P1010555.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt119/800rider/P1010555.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo P1010555.jpg"/></a>

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10bikekid
3rd May 2014, 20:42
Mine had Works Performance shocks with triple springs per shock. Had to pull one of the springs off to give out any sag at all, and then only 5-10mm...

Always wanted to stick a PE swingarm on it...

I'm thinking they arrive on the scene a little later ?

Would love to have a set to just stick on the wall :drool:

Swing arm would have looked trick but to be honest I wasn't good enough to notice the XR one was bad, and they wheelied good being nice and short (this being an XR riders number 1 priority in the day):msn-wink:

NordieBoy
4th May 2014, 09:41
I'm thinking they arrive on the scene a little later ?

Would love to have a set to just stick on the wall :drool:

Swing arm would have looked trick but to be honest I wasn't good enough to notice the XR one was bad, and they wheelied good being nice and short (this being an XR riders number 1 priority in the day):msn-wink:

They only went on the bike in 2007...
<IMG width=640 SRC= http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/xr250/20070922%20Works%20Performance/slides/20070922-121324-000004.jpg>

fridayflash
4th May 2014, 11:44
They only went on the bike in 2007...
<IMG width=640 SRC= http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/xr250/20070922%20Works%20Performance/slides/20070922-121324-000004.jpg>

fwark!!!! theyre hot looking shocks nordie...how long are those mothers? where from and how much? lol

NordieBoy
4th May 2014, 19:00
Got them from somewhere in ChCh. The springs are far too stiff for the little 250. They raise the back end an inch or so and the 21" front lowers the front an inch. Makes for twitchy handling but that's helped by some YSS PD valves in the front and having the top of the fork a few mm below the top of the clamp. Works Performance still make them. Inside it's a normal open bath shock with 170psi or so of air via the valve up top. Does handle well with them though.

Think I paid $600 or so for them.

Muzz67
4th May 2014, 20:05
Got them from somewhere in ChCh. The springs are far too stiff for the little 250. They raise the back end an inch or so and the 21" front lowers the front an inch. Makes for twitchy handling but that's helped by some YSS PD valves in the front and having the top of the fork a few mm below the top of the clamp. Works Performance still make them. Inside it's a normal open bath shock with 170psi or so of air via the valve up top. Does handle well with them though.

Think I paid $600 or so for them.

I used to get the shocks gassed with nitrogen instead of air, or they turned to rock when they got hot.
I made my sets by re-building the supposedly non-rebuildable originals,, new shafts 30mm longer, new seals and oil,, worked real good!
Any more than 30mm longer and the chain-slider over the swing-arm gets wrecked too often.

Sensei
4th May 2014, 20:33
Only paid $585 for the real deal on my XL500 ... Gotta love Trademe

10bikekid
4th May 2014, 21:37
Nice shock stories, another XR pic in original colours with S&W's would have been taken in about 1980 and the bike would have done about 5000ks at the time

<a href="http://s603.photobucket.com/user/800rider/media/Pictures033_zpsd0e67063.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt119/800rider/Pictures033_zpsd0e67063.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Pictures033_zpsd0e67063.jpg"/></a>

fridayflash
4th May 2014, 21:56
is that with terry kit fitted? bike looks shit hot!

400sm
4th May 2014, 22:06
is that with terry kit fitted? bike looks shit hot!

Chur b
What's a terry kit ?

fridayflash
4th May 2014, 22:09
chur
its a super duper forks extending kit...and extra inch over stock according to 10bikedude,

400sm
4th May 2014, 22:13
Looks like the Stock XR length is 17.5" 444.5mm, and that rings a bell, expect 420 is close to stock XL length and the S&W Strokers were probably 18" 457mm http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html/?_nkw=xr500%20shock
<a href="http://s603.photobucket.com/user/800rider/media/567876c1-0e6c-488f-90e6-77c88db441d4_zps68920bbf.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt119/800rider/567876c1-0e6c-488f-90e6-77c88db441d4_zps68920bbf.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 567876c1-0e6c-488f-90e6-77c88db441d4_zps68920bbf.jpg"/></a>
35 year old pic looking a bit worse for wear but S&W's are in shot

PS, look what I found in my search, phew only in America https://www.facebook.com/theroyalracer/posts/549682285080579:eek:
Love the XT500 side cover ! . .

10bikekid
4th May 2014, 22:21
is that with terry kit fitted? bike looks shit hot!

I know the Pic with the White plastics is in full race trim including Terry Kit, think the all red is also as pretty sure never ran shocks before doing the forks

The suspension quality was sooo much better for offroad and I liked the extra height even on the road

400sm
4th May 2014, 22:22
chur
its a super duper forks extending kit...and extra inch over stock according to 10bikedude,

Awww cher my b.
That wd translate into 7psi in the fork cap valves, on mine ! LOL

10bikekid
4th May 2014, 22:23
Love the XT500 side cover ! . .

You got it, took off the XR stuff as didn't want to wreck it all racing but admit to liking the XT look just as much and will be tempted to replicate it when my new XR arrives
<a href="http://s603.photobucket.com/user/800rider/media/85f1c93a-d1ad-4702-bd80-b358aa91ebde_zpsa9e28ade.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt119/800rider/85f1c93a-d1ad-4702-bd80-b358aa91ebde_zpsa9e28ade.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 85f1c93a-d1ad-4702-bd80-b358aa91ebde_zpsa9e28ade.jpg"/></a>

fridayflash
4th May 2014, 22:27
you posted a pic of your yellow xl350 in another thread, check out this specail one, s&w shocks laid down, poweroll cam and hot exhaust
pic shows bike in action at a 1977 enduro..even the chicks look impressed:yes:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=296782&d=1399198991

400sm
4th May 2014, 22:27
I was thinking it looked purty good, even compared to stock . .

400sm
4th May 2014, 22:30
you posted a pic of your yellow xl350 in another thread, check out this specail one, s&w shocks laid down, poweroll cam and hot exhaust
pic shows bike in action at a 1977 enduro..even the chicks look impressed:yes:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=296782&d=1399198991

NAH b. I nose dem girls and they was saying dat tank styling was urghhhh . .

10bikekid
4th May 2014, 22:31
Nice, Learnt to wheelie on my one (though as you can see it didn't have much weight to pull around in those days)
Maintain that the Urgh thing was purelly a colour issue and that the Y&B was beautiful :cool:
<a href="http://s603.photobucket.com/user/800rider/media/4a8da9db-ebb1-4dcd-b665-099da3fe9904_zps91aac6d9.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt119/800rider/4a8da9db-ebb1-4dcd-b665-099da3fe9904_zps91aac6d9.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 4a8da9db-ebb1-4dcd-b665-099da3fe9904_zps91aac6d9.jpg"/></a>

400sm
4th May 2014, 22:44
Nice, Learnt to wheelie on my one (though as you can see it didn't have much weight to pull around in those days)
Maintain that the Urgh thing was purelly a colour issue and that the Y&B was beautiful :cool:
<a href="http://s603.photobucket.com/user/800rider/media/4a8da9db-ebb1-4dcd-b665-099da3fe9904_zps91aac6d9.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt119/800rider/4a8da9db-ebb1-4dcd-b665-099da3fe9904_zps91aac6d9.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 4a8da9db-ebb1-4dcd-b665-099da3fe9904_zps91aac6d9.jpg"/></a>

The best. . . . ;-D

Night Falcon
5th May 2014, 13:48
NAH b. I nose dem girls and they was saying dat tank styling was urghhhh . .

yeah it almost looks as ugly as a camouflaged DRZ I once sore a former inmate ride :shifty:

Muzz67
5th May 2014, 16:53
yeah it almost looks as ugly as a camouflaged DRZ I once sore a former inmate ride :shifty:
Err, probably shouldn't have 'sore' and 'inmate' in same sentence......

fridayflash
5th May 2014, 17:31
heres a sp370 on tardme, dont see these crop up often at all

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-725434569.htm

10bikekid
5th May 2014, 18:06
heres a sp370 on tardme, dont see these crop up often at all

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-725434569.htm

O my gosh I'm so tempted :devil2:(not by the giant girl marketing ploy:(), I owned one of these and it could be put back on the road fairly easily :shifty:

Its cheap and just around the corner from me, please someone do me a favour and buy it before I do, and load my credit card and garage even more :wacko:

fridayflash
5th May 2014, 19:52
it is a good buy at that price, and cool that it comes with roadie bits. like you say it wouldnt take too much to get it back on the road. sp370 was the frst big bike i rode...first thumper actauly, aged 13 i thought it was a big grunter!

10bikekid
5th May 2014, 19:59
it is a good buy at that price, and cool that it comes with roadie bits. like you say it wouldnt take too much to get it back on the road. sp370 was the frst big bike i rode...first thumper actauly, aged 13 i thought it was a big grunter!

Please make some negative comments as that's not helping. :drool:

I think your impression were correct,:yes: though as a 13 year old it probably felt like a dragster:gob:, In there day I'd say they where grutty, quite a bit peppyer than the 250's of the time

fridayflash
5th May 2014, 20:08
yeah man, it was white with blue decals and seemed heavy, although i did manage to wheelie it (first point of business!) about 12" off the ground lol
must say my bike at the time was a suzuki A50 (trail-ised) so even a landscout 80 woulda seemed more powerful hehe

btw....heres another wee thumper worthy of this page, and a cheap classic adv bike!http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=723147399

fridayflash
5th May 2014, 20:11
and another contender, shame about the *cough*cough* hoped for price range though <_<


http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=725481544

fridayflash
12th May 2014, 22:05
okey dokey, das xl500s now sits in my shed after a $425.00 trip from nelson. looks as good or even a bit better than the trademe pics indicated. i kicked it in the guts half a dozen times and it started and purred nicely, headlight and horn even went. will start refitting indicators and taillight etc then take it for a hoon down the road..and take sum pics :first:

10bikekid
12th May 2014, 23:16
Nice :corn:

Sensei
13th May 2014, 14:13
Pic of mates DR400 with DG sticker kit ..put a PE400 swingarm I had into it & built him a exhaust system with supertrapp .. not the most powerful thing out there but sure still Kool old scholl

dino3310
13th May 2014, 15:33
my work mate recently done this one up 297043

fridayflash
13th May 2014, 21:19
nice dr's...are the 500's much faster/gruntier than the 400? ive never ridden either, have ridden an sp370 a million years ago tho :devil2:

10bikekid
13th May 2014, 21:52
nice dr's...are the 500's much faster/gruntier than the 400? ive never ridden either, have ridden an sp370 a million years ago tho :devil2:

The short answer is yep (dino should be able to confirm)

But a 370 to a 15year old is grunter than both of them :yes:

dino3310
13th May 2014, 22:47
pretty much the same bike just a bigger donkey, and yeah a bit faster. for some reason the 500 wasnt as popular but then the500 had more superior compitition in the xr and tt/xt500's, still reckon the 80/81 dr500 enduro is the coolest looking.
i had the 82 bush pig and to a 16yr old it was an awesome beasty, had another one about 4 years ago, i loved it cause it reminded me of my youth and the fantastic memories, but reality hit so i brought the 650

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fridayflash
14th May 2014, 19:08
a mate who owned the sp370 i rode, went on to have a dr500, it was real cool...long shocks with blue springs and longer forks (pe maybe) and a 3" supetrap muffler. he used to ride it to high school and gave it arseholes!






any of you seen these vids?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zSZ4LWru--o



https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bIg4ib_cHEY

10bikekid
14th May 2014, 20:37
Way cool FF, excellent content with a few lol's at the end, makes you want to get one :yes:

What was your old DR slogan again Dino ?

dino3310
14th May 2014, 22:48
Way cool FF, excellent content with a few lol's at the end, makes you want to get one :yes:

What was your old DR slogan again Dino ?

gotta love those DRs :D

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10bikekid
5th June 2014, 20:11
Just to keep us focused, Have done a few miles watching this trundle along beside now, puts a grin on my face :D

<a href="http://s603.photobucket.com/user/800rider/media/Pictures032_zpsd9661fa6.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt119/800rider/Pictures032_zpsd9661fa6.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Pictures032_zpsd9661fa6.jpg"/></a>

dino3310
5th June 2014, 21:42
have you bought it?

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10bikekid
5th June 2014, 22:36
have you bought it?

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I wish, he wont sell,:brick: but its cool just watching it and I'm sure I'll get a few more rides before it or another one eventually ends up in my garage :woohoo:

In the mean time Have drowned my sorrows by buying a Turbo Charged Datsun and have possible become a Bogan in the process :crazy:

<a href="http://s603.photobucket.com/user/800rider/media/be9ebd46-4732-420a-b712-153e6779b687_zpse7987a81.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt119/800rider/be9ebd46-4732-420a-b712-153e6779b687_zpse7987a81.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo be9ebd46-4732-420a-b712-153e6779b687_zpse7987a81.jpg"/></a>

dino3310
5th June 2014, 23:36
mid life crisis bro, trying to relive your youth:D

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fridayflash
6th June 2014, 20:39
http://trailriderreports.blogspot.com/2009/01/year-long-all-expenses-paid-hooligan.html


hope this link works....anyway check it out for some pics and yarn about the south african forces 'bike squad' this particular bloke was aged 19 in 1982 and was given a brand new xr500r to ride with his platoon...everyday for 365 days!!! yeehaa, xr's and automatic weapons:ar15:

Muzz67
7th June 2014, 09:05
Can't see the pics,, DOH!

fridayflash
7th June 2014, 16:16
Can't see the pics,, DOH!

drat! i cant see them now either, damn shame dont know whats gone on there

10bikekid
8th June 2014, 19:20
mid life crisis bro, trying to relive your youth:D

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Been going through that now for about 10 years, will grin and bear and hopefully not recover :oi-grr:

Waipukbiker
8th June 2014, 20:52
Pics not opening for me either.

staq50
30th June 2014, 16:08
Like the fish and chips Idea :niceone:

I rode my 74 DT250<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/t4Ln4AMx35Y" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> from Auckland to Matamata in the dead of winter when I was about 16, swaping my hands on the engine fins to keep any feeling in my hands, on arrival it took me half an hour in front of a roaring fire before could even move my fingers again, nowadays have handguards, super winter gloves and heated grips :rolleyes:

All those bikes you mentioned are Cool and I cant imagine someone trading a GT750 on a TS250 today :no:

Yea well, I did just that...ya see there was only one XR500 A left in HB, price $2,750 they wouldn't trade the GT so rode back to K.Turners in Hastings and did a straight swap on an brand new 250ER then home for a pic and then straight over to trade on the XR....and they didn;t believe what I had just done either, so after a confirmation phone call to Turners deal was done...I lost on the new ER of course but owned the last XR , after the paperwork, got them to swap the rear knobbly for a conti road and I rode it home, The flip side to this is ...about 8 months later my old GT was back in Turners for sale .......so I brought it back....I think I paid about a grand more than I originally paid for it .......And still own it....:cool: would I do it again......on a brand new XR.....f. yea

dino3310
30th June 2014, 17:24
i'll 2nd that f.yeah

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fridayflash
30th June 2014, 19:11
hehe, thats a great story steve, and ive seen the pictorial proof:rolleyes: btw, i spoke to a bloke at the classic club the other day who's son has a mint xr500A in his collection ...wont sell it tho :( shame it wont be on display at the bike show this weekend..theyre displaying a custom xr600 instead :wacko:

MIXONE
1st July 2014, 12:39
I traded my honda CBX on a PE400.:facepalm:

pete-blen
1st July 2014, 20:07
I traded my honda CBX on a PE400.:facepalm:

I traded a Suzuki RE5 on a KDX175... Then over the following 6 weeks I managed to put the side stand though my foot.
strain an ankle... to cap it all off.. broke an arm .. bones out the side the hole ball of wax type .. couldn't ride for
6 months..still have the plate /screws in my arm..
never did ride that dam KDX again...

NordieBoy
2nd July 2014, 08:31
Nowadays they don't use balls of wax for brakes. Discs all the way baby!

10bikekid
2nd July 2014, 19:59
The CBX and the RE5 stories are bad :pinch:, well at least the GT750 lived happily ever after :banana:

RE: XR500 twin shocker, them dogs with the nice one's just don't seem to want to sell them :weep:

Had to block out the number plate in case one of you checked the rego and went and nicked it :shutup:
<a href="http://s603.photobucket.com/user/800rider/media/17743665-b7ee-4f79-a2ec-84e0870f6443_zps7acd8bf9.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt119/800rider/17743665-b7ee-4f79-a2ec-84e0870f6443_zps7acd8bf9.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 17743665-b7ee-4f79-a2ec-84e0870f6443_zps7acd8bf9.jpg"/></a>

fridayflash
4th July 2014, 20:02
my xl500s is back together after a repaint of tank, guards, decals etc. is running like a swiss watch and will be riding it to the hawkes bay classic clubs
motorcycle show tomorow...plaese excuse the oversized pic!

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=298716&d=1404460709

fridayflash
4th July 2014, 20:11
now looking at that pic i must get onto repainting engine sidecovers asap...any ideas of a good paint? steel wheels maybe? i used supercheap silver on the fork legs and it makes for an excellent aluminium/silver, quite stock looking so may try that on engine bits too

dino3310
4th July 2014, 20:13
looks awesome bro

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staq50
4th July 2014, 21:14
yea man, an why excuse the oversize pic.....looks great:drool:

staq50
4th July 2014, 21:48
298721

here's the pic with me and the ER before the trade, the XR500 in the background belonged to my brother at the time, it was previously owned by Lance Bravington, another Hawkes Bay XR rider. I also owned that later on.......there's a story behind that bike as well...........in fact when I look at this pic I owned all the vehicles seen here over a period of time, HD wagon...my parents then, and a vauxhall Victor owned at that point by my brother...that car was a special build he did, it had a 2.3 van motor converted to 11.1 comp. 28/36 dcd Weber, and a Datsun SSS gearbox fitted with a specially made adapter plate, I sold it to a young kid who raped it around a lamp post.....unfortunately he didn't hurt himself.....but totalled the car

fridayflash
4th July 2014, 22:48
cool pic steve, thats an epic xr story...what tailpipe is on the xr500 in the shot? cant see one...is it a miniscule supertrap?:2guns:

staq50
5th July 2014, 08:53
No, this bike was stock, it has the original rear muffler, I tried different set ups on this bike but stayed with the original because it gave me the performance I wanted as a street bike, better top end

Muzz67
5th July 2014, 09:27
Nice bike FF, whats with the box section swing-arm?

10bikekid
5th July 2014, 21:55
298721

here's the pic with me and the ER before the trade, the XR500 in the background belonged to my brother at the time, it was previously owned by Lance Bravington, another Hawkes Bay XR rider. I also owned that later on.......there's a story behind that bike as well...........in fact when I look at this pic I owned all the vehicles seen here over a period of time, HD wagon...my parents then, and a vauxhall Victor owned at that point by my brother...that car was a special build he did, it had a 2.3 van motor converted to 11.1 comp. 28/36 dcd Weber, and a Datsun SSS gearbox fitted with a specially made adapter plate, I sold it to a young kid who raped it around a lamp post.....unfortunately he didn't hurt himself.....but totalled the car

Nice, those were the days aye :mellow:

10bikekid
5th July 2014, 21:57
cool pic steve, thats an epic xr story...what tailpipe is on the xr500 in the shot? cant see one...is it a miniscule supertrap?:2guns:

They were the rage back then

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We put them on everything (and still have a couple on a VMX bike today)
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fridayflash
5th July 2014, 22:33
Nice bike FF, whats with the box section swing-arm?

bit different eh muzz, seems like the 1982 models came out with that swingarm, although id never seen or noticed one before:wacko:
rode it for the first time today, out to bike show (which was a great success) and then on to clubrooms for a drink, then home again
about 60 kms round trip, engine starts and runs perfect, shocks are a bit bouncy bouncy and need replacing sooner than later
forks a bit soft, but will be improved with flush and fresh oil no doubt, oh and will change the back knob for a universal of sorts
but other than that its a great ride. spoke to quite a few guys today that all said..'fuck i want another 500' etc storys of xr's
xl's dr's tt's and sp's flowed like a confessional:rockon:

Muzz67
6th July 2014, 18:42
Rear shocks can be re-built, despite supposedly being non-rebuildable. New seals and oil, re-gas= all good!
I used to make new shafts 30mm longer, and fit a 30mm spacer between the spring seat and the eye. Doesn't give
any more travel, but lifts the back a fair bit. Any higher and the chain wrecks the slider too much!

NordieBoy
6th July 2014, 19:05
Aren't the shafts the same diameter as the ones in the cheap step fitness machines?

fridayflash
6th July 2014, 20:07
i must say i would like longer shocks, the xl is lower that the xr500, having 330mm shocks as standard, id like 420mm on the rear cos it def needs
the lift! so to rebuild the non rebuilders..how do ya get em apart? cut and re weld when seals and oil are done? any one got any ideas on replacement shocks? wemoto has cheapies, progressives are close to $400 on ebay

fridayflash
6th July 2014, 22:44
the xl keeping good company (xr250A) pics by steve (staq50)

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=298804&d=1404642804

dino3310
7th July 2014, 18:11
is it wrong to get a hard on looking at the pics in this thread :D

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staq50
7th July 2014, 19:56
that's a good pic for sure, got to congratulate you man for doing such a great job and putting together a great looking XR (XL)...:)
pic is Martin Corry's mint XL500, my XR 500 and Michael Mansell's (Dippy) Dr 400, just before heading out on a ride

we spent 8 hundy doing a motor rebuild on that DR, ....shortly after some scum stole it from where it was parked at the Angus Inn Hastings one afternoon while we were having a drink stop
never saw it again......... I don't even think it was insured either...

10bikekid
7th July 2014, 20:33
is it wrong to get a hard on looking at the pics in this thread :D

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Aah, your easy meat :crazy:

fridayflash
8th July 2014, 14:56
that's a good pic for sure, got to congratulate you man for doing such a great job and putting together a great looking XR
pic is Martin Corry's mint XL500, my XR 500 and Michael Mansell's (Dippy) Dr 400, just before heading out on a ride

we spent 8 hundy doing a motor rebuild on that DR, ....shortly after some scum stole it from where it was parked at the Angus Inn Hastings one afternoon while we were having a drink stop
never saw it again......... I don't even think it was insured either...

great pic lineup steve, thats what we need, a crowd of old thumpers patroling the streets:devil2: how did that dr400 go? ive never ridden one

staq50
9th July 2014, 20:26
The DR400's were also a great bike, a good solid bike and a reliable motor, thing is tho, we dont see any anymore.......why??????
they weren't exactly rare....who has one????

fridayflash
9th July 2014, 20:39
theres a few guys on here that have had them and swear by them, ive only ever ridden an sp370. my mate at highschool had a dr500 with long arse rear shocks and RM forks, a blue seat, white plastics and the small square enduro headlight with plastic grille strips over the lense and it looked and sounded so freakin cool!

Muzz67
9th July 2014, 21:08
When we started VMX 'racing' in Nelson, it was mostly on 4strokes and quite a few were on DR400's, They seemed to go ok, were troublefree but pretty heavy. An XR500 would waste them (no real surprise) but an angry XR250 would best them too.
they're probably still sitting in the garage, ready to go again!

staq50
9th July 2014, 21:11
yea sure, the SP and DR 370's were another popular ride of the times and yet not many seen now as well.....
Most of the XR's and DR's in Hastings at this time were street machines

Here's a couple of pics of my XR and my riding buddy Gavin Prentice's XR 500 on a trip to Hamilton one weekend 299010299009

speaking of such, anyone recognise those plate numbers and bikes? have wondered many times if they have survived

Pedrostt500
10th July 2014, 22:23
A couple of TT 500s back in the day, and also a Xl 500s, and Dr 400, also I thought the DT 250 rated quiet well.

fridayflash
11th July 2014, 17:56
fuck thats such a cool pic man!!! you should put it on for pic of the week! those xr's in that time period just 'scream' coolness!

Sensei
20th July 2014, 19:03
Just to keep things real .... Pic's from 2day. XR500R-82 is a fuel injected hybrid that a local mate has spent a lot of time sorting but has finially at the end of a long journey getting it running & starting as it should ... Also mates 83XR500R with full ported head /cammed /big valves etc , plus my TT500 ... Weather was trying its hardest to crap on our ride but we were not stopping 2day as we were having to much fun ...Go the old school !!!

10bikekid
20th July 2014, 22:20
Nice, you just got to respect that. :cool:

staq50
6th October 2014, 21:26
YEAH Cool as,
well, I just did it....couldn't find AN XR500A at a good price so what did I do....I brought an '81' DR400
yup, an 81 DR 400......but, any single thumper is better than 'no' thumper .. right guys.......it's a dog, but watch this space.........pics soon..:cool:

Muzz67
7th October 2014, 05:51
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-790038562.htm

staq50
7th October 2014, 18:55
already been sold.....

fridayflash
15th November 2014, 21:14
took the xl500 for a ride today, 400km's incl napier taupo road (wild n windy on the tops) into pohokura road/waipunga through to minginui/tewhaiti
then around waikaremoana and home to napier via putere/raupunga bike didnt miss a beat and sits nice and low so a good high speed gravel express bike:clap:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=305366&d=1416042501


p.s the people in the background were jehovahs witness, they offered me sandwiches and hot tea which was very nice of them

Muzz67
16th November 2014, 07:17
took the xl500 for a ride today, 400km's incl napier taupo road (wild n windy on the tops) into pohokura road/waipunga through to minginui/tewhaiti
then around waikaremoana and home to napier via putere/raupunga bike didnt miss a beat and sits nice and low so a good high speed gravel express bike:clap:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=305366&d=1416042501


p.s the people in the background were jehovahs witness, they offered me sandwiches and hot tea which was very nice of them
Awesome bike!!
Whats your range on a tank?
Is that rev counter standard?
How were the sandwiches?

DR Girl
16th November 2014, 10:10
Well done Ed :Punk: It's a good days riding. What a reliable beast the XL500 is :yes: AWESOME !
Last MMMMM ( done on the Sunday) Bernard & I added the Putere/Raupanga gravel on. Twas great:wings:
Did you end up doing the ride on your own or were you the only one who had to go get gas at Ruatahuna LOL?

Post you ride on HB Rideouts also Ed.

fridayflash
16th November 2014, 20:58
Awesome bike!!
Whats your range on a tank?
Is that rev counter standard?
How were the sandwiches?


cheers muzz, yes rev counter is standard, bike is an '82 model...i know the 79/80 models have the speedo and idiot lights combo unit. im tempted to fit xr headlight, single speedo, seat, shocks,forks,rear guard and tool pouch as ive got all the bits on a xr250z ,,i just love the twin shock 500 look.
fuel economy is good so far..but i havent worke out my exact k/pl yet..its really only the second time ive rode the bike, but id guess its around 160kms to dry at the mo, i hope to get a bit more out of it than that, could drop the needle one clip as its marginally rich atm. the bag bungied on the back is holding 5L of go-go juice :sunny:

p.s as a lapsed (collapsed) catholic i told those heathen JW's in no uncertain terms that i couldnt break bread with them,,,unless they had alter wine and irish stew..then i crossed myself and left them in a hail of gravel dust :2guns:

fridayflash
16th November 2014, 21:14
Well done Ed :Punk: It's a good days riding. What a reliable beast the XL500 is :yes: AWESOME !
Last MMMMM ( done on the Sunday) Bernard & I added the Putere/Raupanga gravel on. Twas great:wings:
Did you end up doing the ride on your own or were you the only one who had to go get gas at Ruatahuna?

Post you ride on HB Rideouts also Ed.

thanks robyn, was a perfect day out..a few others were out on the ride too, but left earlier than me so i did the reverse route of the way they went
...talk about four seasons in one day though!:sunny:

XRJohnny
17th November 2014, 11:45
Well done Ed :Punk: It's a good days riding. What a reliable beast the XL500 is :yes: AWESOME !
Last MMMMM ( done on the Sunday) Bernard & I added the Putere/Raupanga gravel on. Twas great:wings:
Did you end up doing the ride on your own or were you the only one who had to go get gas at Ruatahuna LOL?

Post you ride on HB Rideouts also Ed.

Hey dirgirl, Are you BLONDE??
Anyone could see that those gas pumps at Ruatahuna have not been used since 1983!!
Ed just stopped there for a photo op & to try & steal food off the old people.
We were laying low at Murapara at the time, having dropped Steve.S off at the Airport for a bit of Skydiving.
REMEMBER . . . . . don't ride on the road , in the rain , on Knobblies . . . . . They ARE Dangerous!!

10bikekid
17th November 2014, 20:28
cheers muzz, yes rev counter is standard, bike is an '82 model...i know the 79/80 models have the speedo and idiot lights combo unit. im tempted to fit xr headlight, single speedo, seat, shocks,forks,rear guard and tool pouch as ive got all the bits on a xr250z ,,i just love the twin shock 500 look.
fuel economy is good so far..but i havent worke out my exact k/pl yet..its really only the second time ive rode the bike, but id guess its around 160kms to dry at the mo, i hope to get a bit more out of it than that, could drop the needle one clip as its marginally rich atm. the bag bungied on the back is holding 5L of go-go juice :sunny:

p.s as a lapsed (collapsed) catholic i told those heathen JW's in no uncertain terms that i couldnt break bread with them,,,unless they had alter wine and irish stew..then i crossed myself and left them in a hail of gravel dust :2guns:

Being a Pentecostal I would have left with Tongues of Fire coming out the exhaust :eek5:
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husaberg
17th November 2014, 21:29
What are the shocks like I seem to remember the other Hondas of the vintage had the FVQ's I always thought it stood for F-ed very quickly....
That was in the 80's, I guess they may mature, mch like fine wine though.......

fridayflash
17th November 2014, 21:38
berg, the shocks are...you guessed it..shocking! well really one is the orig xl500s unit and its pukeru, the other is an xr250A unit and thats really good so overall i cant complain, shocks and forks both work fairly evenly and the bike does handle good (in a retro kinda way) :second:

Muzz67
18th November 2014, 05:56
Despite what Mr Honda says, the shocks can be rebuilt. Bit fiddly, but with new oil and seals they can be pretty good.
I made mine 30mm longer too, to match the front height better.

fridayflash
18th November 2014, 12:21
did you do the work yourself muzz? that might be a bit beyond me..do you give them a charge of nitrogen too? the extra ride height is needed at the rear i agree, for sure ill run the xr shocks i have, theyre 30mm longer

Muzz67
18th November 2014, 18:27
did you do the work yourself muzz? that might be a bit beyond me..do you give them a charge of nitrogen too? the extra ride height is needed at the rear i agree, for sure ill run the xr shocks i have, theyre 30mm longer
Yes, once you figure out how to pull them apart, it's not too bad.
I was goin to buy 12mm hard-chrome shaft at great expence, till I found 1/2 inch shaft on one of those exercize machines at the dump!
had the other end re-threaded to suit the honda eye, all good.
Had the thread longer then normal, and fitted a 30mm spacer between the eye and the spring seat.
No more travel than standard, just raises seat a bit.
Any more and the chain would tear the chain-slider to bits.

fridayflash
19th November 2014, 16:22
hehe classic stuff!! i wonder what was in the 'terry kit' that gave better suspenders and increased travel for xr500/250 i saw one on trademe a few years ago..new old stock!

puddytat
19th November 2014, 17:21
Baz from taupo years ago came up with the idea to move the swingarm shock mounts forward on my XR250....over did it a tad & it ended up with the turning ability of a trials bike.:laugh:
Looked awesum with mega travel, handled like shit:facepalm:

staq50
19th November 2014, 22:36
was a great ride all round, rained, blew, sun, had it all, awesome
These are taken at the lake, and on the waipunga section

Muzz67
30th April 2015, 19:51
Anyone know where to get new 23inch tyres?

Kickaha
30th April 2015, 20:53
Anyone know where to get new 23inch tyres?

http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/products/301-bridgestone_trail/11564-bridgestone_tw9_front_23_trail.aspx

Getting a 21 inch front rim laced on would give you a far better selection

pete376403
30th April 2015, 21:57
Not sure if they are road legal (pretty sure they are not) but speedway bikes use 23" fronts. Trials universal-like tread pattern. Should be ok for easy offroad tracks, a bit light for sharp rocks

http://goldentyre.co.nz/cart/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=73

NordieBoy
1st May 2015, 07:45
Anyone know where to get new 23inch tyres?
I think I've got a good condition older one sitting on a 23" XR wheel somewhere.

Muzz67
2nd May 2015, 17:48
http://gyazo.com/071455bf5b61c2718b1ec1709159cccf
http://i.gyazo.com/f4e7d582646ea3b42ea06c716f10da90.jpg

Tazz
2nd May 2015, 17:55
http://gyazo.com/071455bf5b61c2718b1ec1709159cccf
http://i.gyazo.com/f4e7d582646ea3b42ea06c716f10da90.jpg

Was wondering what you got when I saw the other one for sale.

What a piece of shit! I'll take that off your hands

:bleh:

NordieBoy
10th May 2015, 21:25
Anyone know where to get new 23inch tyres?
Knew I had some somewhere...
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/10/0503f1a28c5be104c4a19456cd1fc29a.jpg

10bikekid
23rd May 2015, 20:38
Bump
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Muzz67
24th May 2015, 07:58
like like!

XRJohnny
4th June 2015, 16:24
Hey TINBIKE, is that beautiful bike yours yet??

XRJohnny
4th June 2015, 16:34
312553
I plan to sell this lineup & purchase the best XR500A I can find.:scooter:

Night Falcon
4th June 2015, 19:05
I plan to sell this lineup & purchase the best XR500A I can find.:scooter:

Sounds like a plan Johnny :corn:

Muzz67
5th June 2015, 15:29
312553
I plan to sell this lineup & purchase the best XR500A I can find.:scooter:
Um, theres already a 500 in there.......

400sm
5th June 2015, 21:27
Um, theres already a 500 in there.......

It's not MINT, tho :no:

Here's the standard Monkey aspires to.... 312597312598312599 Brand new $2350

Taken from my 1979 album. :yes:

XRJohnny
8th June 2015, 16:21
Hey 400SM,
You weren't that cool in '79. Your HAT didn't match your new bike!

400sm
8th June 2015, 16:40
Hey 400SM,
You weren't that cool in '79. Your HAT didn't match your new bike!

Yeah, na.

Coolness must've ended in 1978............312657

XRJohnny
18th June 2015, 16:54
312882 A while back, 10BikeKid & Dino both quoted almost unbelievable top speeds out of XR250's. I have recent experience that backs up their claims.
Last winter on a quick ride to Taihape, I was most impressed to see 140k's on a downhill stretch. By far the best speed I had ever seen ( usually around the 120 mark in normal conditions). Then, not long ago on a long straight, with obviously ideal conditions I got it "off the clock" to 150!!!
This bike is a very stock ( except for a straight thru muffler ) & very worn original 1980 XR250A.
Wouldn't have believed it unless I saw it with my own eyes. :shit:

Muzz67
19th June 2015, 18:40
'79 XR250,Used to get 130kph indicated occasionally, got that on a '76(?) XL250 yellow and black too!
Prety sure a GPS would prove how crap the speedo's were tho......

10bikekid
27th July 2015, 20:49
312882 A while back, 10BikeKid & Dino both quoted almost unbelievable top speeds out of XR250's. I have recent experience that backs up their claims.
Last winter on a quick ride to Taihape, I was most impressed to see 140k's on a downhill stretch. By far the best speed I had ever seen ( usually around the 120 mark in normal conditions). Then, not long ago on a long straight, with obviously ideal conditions I got it "off the clock" to 150!!!
This bike is a very stock ( except for a straight thru muffler ) & very worn original 1980 XR250A.
Wouldn't have believed it unless I saw it with my own eyes. :shit:

Nice, And you thought we were full of it <_<, pretty sure the one I rode was running much higher gearing and I may have been slipstreaming behind my own XR500 that was two up at the time
My old fragile memorie is thinking 155kph speedo :confused:

10bikekid
27th July 2015, 20:54
It's not MINT, tho :no:

Here's the standard Monkey aspires to.... 312597312598312599 Brand new $2350

Taken from my 1979 album. :yes:

The Memories come flooding back, Remember how frightened I was hoping on that New Shiny 500Z I picked up from Cycle Spot, the power was astounding even in run in mode
Slighted modded by this stage and wheelie crazy
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Muzz67
31st July 2015, 07:50
I need an airbox for a 79-80 XR500( twinshock model). If anyones got a spare or knows of one,,,,,,
Cheers,
Muzz.

puddytat
4th August 2015, 23:26
I need one of these.....314397

I purchased one of these new as an apprentice & ran it in on the ride down from Taupo to Petone Polytech for a block course.
I had it for about 6 mths then some wankers who I thought were mates, pinched it . The cops found it a few months later out at the Opepe reserve.
It was not until several years later that I found out who had stolen it so :finger:Leon:finger:Kerry:finger:John. No doubt you're all still as fucking useless as you were then.

dino3310
6th August 2015, 21:51
Nice, And you thought we were full of it <_<, pretty sure the one I rode was running much higher gearing and I may have been slipstreaming behind my own XR500 that was two up at the time
My old fragile memorie is thinking 155kph speedo :confused:

Yip mine had they higher gearing, used it for trips up to mums in tirua, the downhill on one ton straight always saw 140+, pretty gutless but with the lower gearing is was more than enough for a young fella to blast around papamoa beach on.
Remember the old stand on the back pegs to get the front up for wheelies:Punk:

10bikekid
9th August 2015, 17:28
Yip mine had they higher gearing, used it for trips up to mums in tirua, the downhill on one ton straight always saw 140+, pretty gutless but with the lower gearing is was more than enough for a young fella to blast around papamoa beach on.
Remember the old stand on the back pegs to get the front up for wheelies:Punk:


Can remember riding my XL500 home after taking delivery and thought it was going to wheel stand whenever I took off but I had been riding a Honda CG110 loaner bike for 2 weeks waiting for it.

Yer I came off a yellow and black XL250 which prior to the 500 I thought was a grunter.
I remember that my cousin who had the XR250 used to ask me how come your bike wheelies all the time :crazy:
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Black Knight
2nd September 2015, 10:54
Can anyone tell me which Hi-Flo oil filter fits the XR400/500 say 2002-Thanks in advance.

Muzz67
2nd September 2015, 17:04
RFVC engines use the HF112.

Muzz67
2nd September 2015, 21:30
Can get the 500 to cruise easy at 100kph, but then you're doin 40kph at idle in 1st,, not ideal for tricky bits!
Thinkin meybe if the overdrive 6th gear-pair from an 82 XR250 would fit in place of the 500's 5th gear-pair??
Last time I had both in parts on the bench, I figured the entire 6 speed cluster would fit into the 500 cases,,
but not much point really. lower gears would probably bust anyway.
Would also loose the rear balancer, and be doubtful the front one alone would do much either.
Day-dreamin,,,,,,

NordieBoy
3rd September 2015, 08:27
NordieBro has my old XR engine collection, including 6 speed setups and a new 6 speed crank.
The gears should fit.
There was just one bit of case that needed machining or something for the conversion?

Black Knight
3rd September 2015, 11:02
RFVC engines use the HF112.

Thanks Muzz

Muzz67
5th September 2015, 19:41
Wow, what a difference on the smooth seal/asphalt!
Much smoother, don't feel every power-stroke like the bolt-on hub.
Recommend.:niceone:

10bikekid
18th September 2015, 22:01
Can get the 500 to cruise easy at 100kph, but then you're doin 40kph at idle in 1st,, not ideal for tricky bits!
Thinkin meybe if the overdrive 6th gear-pair from an 82 XR250 would fit in place of the 500's 5th gear-pair??
Last time I had both in parts on the bench, I figured the entire 6 speed cluster would fit into the 500 cases,,
but not much point really. lower gears would probably bust anyway.
Would also loose the rear balancer, and be doubtful the front one alone would do much either.
Day-dreamin,,,,,,

Don't remember that being an issue, think it was a 38T rear that gave the 100mph gearing, seemed to cruise easy at about 110-120, first would still wheelie on the throttle and second also so all good :woohoo:

Muzz67
9th October 2015, 07:06
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/pocket-pit-bikes/auction-962047747.htm

puddytat
9th October 2015, 21:54
I thought of you Muzz when I saw that....

Black Knight
12th October 2015, 10:14
I have just bought a clutch kit for my XR400--All my other bikes run wet clutches and I oil soak before fitting-This is my first dry clutch fit,do I fit dry straight out of the box or oil-Or any other "tricks"-Thanks in advance.

Muzz67
12th October 2015, 15:35
It will be a wet clutch. Soak overnight.

Black Knight
13th October 2015, 07:45
It will be a wet clutch. Soak overnight.

Thanks Muzz,for some reason I had it in my head that seeing it runs a separate oil tank that it was a dry sump.
Will soak as advised-thanks again.

husaberg
17th October 2015, 11:24
Thanks Muzz,for some reason I had it in my head that seeing it runs a separate oil tank that it was a dry sump.
Will soak as advised-thanks again.

Dry sump yes, but wet clutch. The idea is, it just stores the oil in the frame rather than the bottom of the engine for better oil cooling and more oil capacity without making the engine bulkier. Possibly less windage as well.

Muzz67
20th October 2015, 17:49
Can anyone tell me if twinshock XR250/500's had High and low beam headlights?
Did they even have a headlight on/off switch?
Cheers.

husaberg
20th October 2015, 18:35
Can anyone tell me if twinshock XR250/500's had High and low beam headlights?
Did they even have a headlight on/off switch?
Cheers.

no idea what it was but it had a light switch of some sort
http://www.partzilla.com/parts/search/Honda/Motorcycle/1979/XR500+A/CONTROL+LEVERS+%2B+SWITCHES+%2B+CABLES/parts.html
the same part was used on these models

1981 ATC250R A CONTROL LEVERS + CABLES + SWITCHES 81

1979 XR185 A HANDLE LEVER + SWITCHES + CABLES

1979 XR500 A CONTROL LEVERS + SWITCHES + CABLES

1980 XR200 A CONTROL LEVERS + SWITCHES + CABLES

1980 XR500 A CONTROL LEVERS + SWITCHES + CABLES

Any bugger on this thread have a XR250 or 200 RFVC primary gear I can borrow to compare the tooth pattern

Muzz67
6th January 2016, 08:20
is a good one!
https://i.gyazo.com/66670cf423e93ede907f13f3d67f2a42.png

10bikekid
29th February 2016, 19:59
Nice one, man there aint much to the old Xr's compared to now days, no wonder they went like cut cats, pretty much even with a DR750 with a pipe when I drag raced my mates which was stock, and the thing felt like a 750 with all the torque and no weight

Black Knight
16th March 2016, 10:54
Who in NZ would be best at repairing a cracked head and also valve guides?

husaberg
16th March 2016, 19:26
Who in NZ would be best at repairing a cracked head and also valve guides?

You might be better off buying one off Ebay likely $250-300NZD landed
http://www.ebay.com/itm/83-HONDA-XR500-XR-500-R-OEM-ENGINE-MOTOR-CYLINDER-HEAD-/201401832950

There actually was one with new valves and guides last month for 200NZD landed for a 82 model

Black Knight
17th March 2016, 08:04
Thanks Husa-This enquiry was for a mate so I will put him on to E-bay.

Muzz67
17th March 2016, 14:01
Who in NZ would be best at repairing a cracked head and also valve guides?
Pretty common for older 250's to crack through the plug/valve bridge, I've not seen a 500 do it.

Muzz67
2nd April 2016, 11:45
Who in NZ would be best at repairing a cracked head and also valve guides?

What was the outcome?

Muzz67
8th July 2016, 19:59
Can one have too many?
https://i.gyazo.com/9111f5580159523ec7cc6cec32d7e272.png

10bikekid
21st July 2016, 23:13
Nice, I have a new ride as well we see if can remember how to post pic

puddytat
22nd July 2016, 14:39
A couple of old prolinks on trademe at the moment
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-1124084046.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-1127653695.htm

Muzz67
22nd July 2016, 14:46
https://i.gyazo.com/8c98f622a876105e5b29697acd0f40c0.png

https://i.gyazo.com/e3e1e4c3389dc7e8c141dbb0437fb063.jpg

Now all I need is some better bags to drape over it,, and some days not working........

Muzz67
22nd July 2016, 14:49
A couple of old prolinks on trademe at the moment
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-1124084046.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-1127653695.htm

that one with the disc front is pretty good value.....
how you been,, not heard much from ya.
Muzz.

puddytat
22nd July 2016, 18:00
Its all good down this way Muzz.....catching up on jobs around the place over winter. the bees'll start buzzing soon.
Had the 4hundy apart doing the swingarm etc & I have just done the valve clearances which was a first for me.....your posts on TT were helpful:2thumbsup.
Put a Motoz hybrid on it, but the Jury is still out to lunch about that choice....
Yeah I liked the look of the disk one too, but she who must be obeyed has deemed it that I must fix up the TLR & Spada before I go getting another one....

Muzz67
22nd July 2016, 20:03
Its all good down this way Muzz.....catching up on jobs around the place over winter. the bees'll start buzzing soon.
Had the 4hundy apart doing the swingarm etc & I have just done the valve clearances which was a first for me.....your posts on TT were helpful:2thumbsup.
Put a Motoz hybrid on it, but the Jury is still out to lunch about that choice....
Yeah I liked the look of the disk one too, but she who must be obeyed has deemed it that I must fix up the TLR & Spada before I go getting another one....
Must get down there for a guided tour on of these weekends,, but lookin at the forecast, meybe not THIS weekend!

puddytat
22nd July 2016, 20:18
Yeah, do it sometime....the loggers have put in quite a few kms of track right next door at huge expense, for our use:laugh:

10bikekid
23rd July 2016, 17:34
Well its been nearly 3 years since I started this thread but I finally got there, there is a lesson in here about having a dream I think :mellow:
<a href="http://s603.photobucket.com/user/800rider/media/20160522_083800_zpsbvxon2kq.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt119/800rider/20160522_083800_zpsbvxon2kq.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 20160522_083800_zpsbvxon2kq.jpg"/></a>

Muzz67
23rd July 2016, 20:49
looks friggen incredible,, well done.

Scubbo
23rd July 2016, 21:33
whoa that looks fresh!

10bikekid
23rd July 2016, 22:42
Ta guys, its done 2600 miles in unrestored original condition, pretty happy with it, Rides like i remember my original New one that I picked up from the Shop about 37 years ago
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Muzz67
2nd September 2016, 20:48
On the hunt for 2 XR500 carbs to finally get the other 2 bikes running as they should.
currently using XL500 ones but boy, are they gutless........

10bikekid
3rd September 2016, 19:44
On the hunt for 2 XR500 carbs to finally get the other 2 bikes running as they should.
currently using XL500 ones but boy, are they gutless........

I am surprised that XL the pumper carb is that much worse if I remember rightly the XL was better and smoother down low but lost about 3hp up top, i always presume that was the cam but maybe not ?

Muzz67
3rd September 2016, 20:02
I am surprised that XL the pumper carb is that much worse if I remember rightly the XL was better and smoother down low but lost about 3hp up top, i always presume that was the cam but maybe not ?
Neither of the XL carbs are pumpers. Think that only the 250's had them?
Just swapped the XR carb to an XL today,, goes considerably better.
could probably bore the 2 XL carbs out, but would rather track down XRcarbs.
https://i.gyazo.com/d1555dd91d76b98ea24730e5408eab72.jpg

10bikekid
10th September 2016, 18:17
Neither of the XL carbs are pumpers. Think that only the 250's had them?
Just swapped the XR carb to an XL today,, goes considerably better.
could probably bore the 2 XL carbs out, but would rather track down XRcarbs.


They did originally, found about 5 sites reverencing http://www.nrp-carbs.co.uk/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=39&sort=pd.name&order=DESC
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Honda/honda_xl500s%2079.htm

Muzz67
11th September 2016, 18:42
They did originally, found about 5 sites reverencing http://www.nrp-carbs.co.uk/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=39&sort=pd.name&order=DESC
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Honda/honda_xl500s%2079.htm
I have 2 34mm round slide carbs , both from '79-82 XL500's. neither have a pump.
different markets seem to have different carbs. possibly due to the (then) new Californian Emmision Rules??
one of your links shows a twinshock but states 32mmCV carb, the other is an '83 model (which also sported a weird reed valve on the inlet side. )
clymer/Haines often show different stuff too,,
All I know is I want 2 roundslide 36mm non-pump XR500 carbs.

10bikekid
17th September 2016, 00:18
I have 2 34mm round slide carbs , both from '79-82 XL500's. neither have a pump.
different markets seem to have different carbs. possibly due to the (then) new Californian Emmision Rules??
one of your links shows a twinshock but states 32mmCV carb, the other is an '83 model (which also sported a weird reed valve on the inlet side. )
clymer/Haines often show different stuff too,,
All I know is I want 2 roundslide 36mm non-pump XR500 carbs.

I wonder if it might be easier to get something from another bike or even the performance carbs that whites brothers used to sell 36 & 38mm Mikuni's which should not be to hard to get a hold of ?

10bikekid
15th August 2019, 20:47
New Garage Friend

Scubbo
16th August 2019, 11:06
tidy as!, that's great!

Dak S83
16th August 2019, 12:59
New Garage Friend

Nice, looks like a minter

Muzz67
21st August 2019, 19:56
New Garage Friend
The 'Never been started' bike? Stunning!

Temporary-Kiwi
25th August 2019, 22:41
I have 2 34mm round slide carbs , both from '79-82 XL500's. neither have a pump.
different markets seem to have different carbs. possibly due to the (then) new Californian Emmision Rules??
one of your links shows a twinshock but states 32mmCV carb, the other is an '83 model (which also sported a weird reed valve on the inlet side. )
clymer/Haines often show different stuff too,,
All I know is I want 2 roundslide 36mm non-pump XR500 carbs.
I'm fairly sure the 90's xr400 carbie is a 36mm roundslide
non pump carb, should be readily available

husaberg
23rd September 2021, 22:00
Does anyone out there still have a 81-82 XR500R handy

Muzz67
27th September 2021, 16:51
Does anyone out there still have a 81-82 XR500R handy

Got a shabby '79 XR500, and a really tidy one with reg, both to sell soon......

husaberg
27th September 2021, 17:30
Got a shabby '79 XR500, and a really tidy one with reg, both to sell soon......

Cheers thanks for your reply Muzz i was after a measurement on a part that i think was only on the 81-82 engine.
looking at the parts fiche for the 79-8-0 its seems like a different setup.

Muzz67
28th September 2021, 09:11
Cheers thanks for your reply Muzz i was after a measurement on a part that i think was only on the 81-82 engine.
looking at the parts fiche for the 79-8-0 its seems like a different setup.
What is it you're after?

husaberg
28th September 2021, 15:44
What is it you're after?

HI I was wanting to know the reed cadge bolt spacing.
349724
also to have a good look at the reed stuffer
349725349726
Plus the length on the intake.
349727

I knew some had the reed but i never knew it was a full 2t set up.
But the lengths and spacings really.
Just the normal stuff;)

Muzz67
28th September 2021, 16:04
Never seen one that still had reedblock still in it. Commonly biffed before they fell apart and went through the mill...

husaberg
28th September 2021, 17:30
Never seen one that still had reedblock still in it. Commonly biffed before they fell apart and went through the mill...

id would have just pulled out the SS reeds and left the rest the flow would be abysmal with a huge cavity and no reed or spacer. looking up old parts number for boyseen fiberglass reeds for a later IT175 should fit.

Only really interested to see exactly what the bolt spacing to see if its the same as a CR125 (which i suspect it is) plus the intake length. the rest is idle curiosity.
But the stuffer looks far superior to the CR /RS of the era

if i had an XR or a XL 250 or 500 of that era i would be buying some R&D or similar valve springs as Honda have delisted them along with some other top bits.
there is still some list OEM on ebay but buggar all.

Muzz67
2nd November 2021, 16:23
id would have just pulled out the SS reeds and left the rest the flow would be abysmal with a huge cavity and no reed or spacer. looking up old parts number for boyseen fiberglass reeds for a later IT175 should fit.

Only really interested to see exactly what the bolt spacing to see if its the same as a CR125 (which i suspect it is) plus the intake length. the rest is idle curiosity.
But the stuffer looks far superior to the CR /RS of the era

if i had an XR or a XL 250 or 500 of that era i would be buying some R&D or similar valve springs as Honda have delisted them along with some other top bits.
there is still some list OEM on ebay but buggar all.
How did you get on?
Found a NOS camchain tensioner in a drawer , looked on Ebay at prices,, HOLY COW!

husaberg
2nd November 2021, 16:55
How did you get on?
Found a NOS camchain tensioner in a drawer , looked on Ebay at prices,, HOLY COW!

no joy, i could ask on ebay or on a XR site I guess.