Tardme - yet another rant

[HenryDorsetCase]

I have come to the conclusion that a lot of people who think they are trying to sell stuff on tardme aren't really trying to sell things, particularly motorbikes, at all.

They use it as an online vanity project: See my cool bike? Isn't it awesome. Yes its five years old and has done 50,000kms and because I have put tassels and these bitchin new handgrips on it, of course it is "worth" 90% of the price of a brand new one with a two year warranty.

Get real!

[Hitcher]

Indeed. In the current market, once a bike has been rolled out of the showroom, it's worth much less.

And Mr Insurance Company will happily tell one what one's bling is worth if one makes a claim. It's largely worth nothing.

[BoristheBiter]

No one is ever going to put their bike up for sale for what it's worth to be pushed lower.
If you don't want to buy the said bike at said price then don't, but calling the wambulance is a bit ott.

[Danger Dave]

I have recently sold one of my bikes on Trade Me, i had it priced quite high for a while as i didn't really want to sell it but the wife said i had to many bikes that weren't being used so one had to go :angry: but in the end it sold fo a good price and i used the money to buy another bike :Punk: haha the wife wasn't to impressed when i got it home.

[The Reibz]

A set of Yoshi end cans is considered a "Trick mod" by many people which "dramatically raises horsepower and torque" so no doubt the bikes worth an extra 3k just for the exhausts...

Got my Busa with 29,000km on the clock for $7900 and it included 3 sets of gear and a pack rack. Deal of the century in my eyes, there are genuine people on there but there are also a fark load of dreamers...

[Crasherfromwayback]

TM has certainly made my job tougher. "but they're going for 25k on TM!!". Ummm...no they're not. That's why it's still there...

[scott411]

TM has certainly made my job tougher. "but they're going for 25k on TM!!". Ummm...no they're not. That's why it's still there...

yes its a lot like that now, if you are trading a bike you look at the highest price example on trademe and that sets the market price apprantly, however if you are buying one you find the cheapest and that sets the market price in a lot of poeples eyes,

If you dont think the bike is worth that price, dont buy it,

also learn how to use the expired listings search, very handy to see what is actually selling and not just sitting there

[Crasherfromwayback]

yes its a lot like that now, if you are trading a bike you look at the highest price example on trademe and that sets the market price apprantly, however if you are buying one you find the cheapest and that sets the market price in a lot of poeples eyes,

If you dont think the bike is worth that price, dont buy it,

also learn how to use the expired listings search, very handy to see what is actually selling and not just sitting there

Yep. Was a good thing at the beginning...could sell old shitters you didn't want etc...but now? Pah.

[Banditbandit]

I have come to the conclusion that a lot of people who think they are trying to sell stuff on tardme aren't really trying to sell things, particularly motorbikes, at all.

They use it as an online vanity project: See my cool bike? Isn't it awesome. Yes its five years old and has done 50,000kms and because I have put tassels and these bitchin new handgrips on it, of course it is "worth" 90% of the price of a brand new one with a two year warranty.

Get real!

Yeah .. people are fucked up, egotistical, dumb and stupid ... get over it ...

[Voltaire]

I'm happy, parted out a car for almost twice what I had it listed for as a classified.
Other than the VW world being made of tight arses who want stuff for nothing. $1 reserves meet the market.

Watched a bike for the last month and bought it for a grand less than he started with.
Sold a Triumph project in a day....I doubt if it was a good investment but it sure saved me from it becoming a money pit.

[5150]

yes its a lot like that now, if you are trading a bike you look at the highest price example on trademe and that sets the market price apprantly, however if you are buying one you find the cheapest and that sets the market price in a lot of poeples eyes,

If you dont think the bike is worth that price, dont buy it,

also learn how to use the expired listings search, very handy to see what is actually selling and not just sitting there

Mind you, I see lot of bike dealers going on TM too and finding the cheapest price for said model and telling you that that what it is worth to for him to trade. Even if it is 2-3 years older and has 10-20K more milage then the one you are trading...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Mind you, I see lot of bike dealers going on TM too and finding the cheapest price for said model and telling you that that what it is worth to for him to trade. Even if it is 2-3 years older and has 10-20K more milage then the one you are trading...

Funnily enough...even the cheapest ones are often still sitting there on TM not going anywhere!

[scott411]

Mind you, I see lot of bike dealers going on TM too and finding the cheapest price for said model and telling you that that what it is worth to for him to trade. Even if it is 2-3 years older and has 10-20K more milage then the one you are trading...

i have no doubt they do, but ifs its on trademe its still not sold, it is a good reference tool when used right, but in the end, something is only worth what someone else will pay for it,

[5150]

Funnily enough...even the cheapest ones are often still sitting there on TM not going anywhere!


i have no doubt they do, but ifs its on trademe its still not sold, it is a good reference tool when used right, but in the end, something is only worth what someone else will pay for it,

I totally agree. I see bikes sitting on there for 6-12 mnths and sellers still beleive that they are worth an outrageous asking price. I guess it all depends if it is a model that is popular and how much someone is willing to pay for it. I had one dealer tell me that my old 08 CB900F with 8K on the clock was only worth 4k to trade, and he had an 05 model with 45K sitting there for $8.5K. Went to the dealer next door and got offered $6.5K for the same bike not more then 20 minutes later.

[SMOKEU]

If you want to see the biggest ripoffs on TM, take a look at what people are asking for their wreck of a Landcruiser or Safari/Patrol that is 10 years overdue to be scrapped. Same goes with Hiluxes.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yeah .. people are fucked up, egotistical, dumb and stupid ... get over it ...

The problem is


I can't get over it.

I expect everyone in the South Pacific Socialist Paradise that we call home to be honest, reasonable, friendly, open, and working toward the common good.

I am often disappointed :(

[HenryDorsetCase]

If you want to see the biggest ripoffs on TM, take a look at what people are asking for their wreck of a Landcruiser or Safari/Patrol that is 10 years overdue to be scrapped. Same goes with Hiluxes.

There will be less of that now that those chop shops have been raided.....

[Edbear]

The problem is

I can't get over it.

I expect everyone in the South Pacific Socialist Paradise that we call home to be honest, reasonable, friendly, open, and working toward the common good.

I am often disappointed :(

Hang on, aren't you a lawyer..?

[Drew]

Hang on, aren't you a lawyer..?Could be worse....He could be a battery salesman.

[Edbear]

Could be worse....He could be a battery salesman.

I was referring to his expectations of people... :bleh:

[Drew]

I was referring to his expectations of people... :bleh:...So was I.

[avgas]

Trade in you bike bro. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulances are cheap on trademe.

[Edbear]

...So was I.

Oh, Nah, I have no such expectations... :yes:

[mossy1200]

I was a little tired of the tardme troll so I went on fleebay and looked for some bling for my bike. 130 pags of oggy knobs and wheel bearings later I came home to tardme.

[Erelyes]

No one is ever going to put their bike up for sale for what it's worth to be pushed lower.
If you don't want to buy the said bike at said price then don't, but calling the wambulance is a bit ott.

Had a guy once tell me a story about a car he was selling.

Put it up for* a bit over what he was after and he had about 5 people lowball him.

After a couple months he dropped it to what he was actually after and someone came around, inspected, and bought it at that advertised price without haggling as they felt it was a fair price.

That little anecdote has always stuck with me.

[Drew]

Had a guy once tell me a story about a car he was selling.

Offered a bit over what he was after and he had about 5 people lowball him.

After a couple months he dropped it to what he was after and someone came around, inspected, and bought it at that advertised price without haggling as they felt it was a fair price.

That little anecdote has always stuck with me.

Prolly because it makes little to no sense.

Do you mean he asked for a little bit more than he really wanted, and got lowballed. Then when he dropped to what he actually wanted, it sold for that, no questions?

[gammaguy]

TM has certainly made my job tougher. "but they're going for 25k on TM!!". Ummm...no they're not. That's why it's still there...

My company is running over one thousand auctions at any one time worldwide

If I had a dollar for every message I get that reads"did you know that wing ping corporation of Wong pong are selling theirs online for half your price bla bla....."I would be a millionaire

[mossy1200]

My company is running over one thousand auctions at any one time worldwide

If I had a dollar for every message I get that reads"did you know that wing ping corporation of Wong pong are selling theirs online for half your price bla bla....."I would be a millionaire

Wing ping corporation of Wong pong are selling them for just a dollar profit and they are millionaires.

[Crasherfromwayback]

My company is running over one thousand auctions at any one time worldwide

If I had a dollar for every message I get that reads"did you know that wing ping corporation of Wong pong are selling theirs online for half your price bla bla....."I would be a millionaire

Hahahaha...I bloody bet mate!

[avgas]

"did you know that wing ping corporation of Wong pong are selling theirs online for half your price bla bla....."
Holy Shit that is a place! Well sort of...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Pong_District

[Erelyes]

Prolly because it makes little to no sense.

Do you mean he asked for a little bit more than he really wanted, and got lowballed. Then when he dropped to what he actually wanted, it sold for that, no questions?

Thats what I meant, I put 'offered' instead of 'asked for'... mea faila

[nzspokes]

A set of Yoshi end cans is considered a "Trick mod" by many people which "dramatically raises horsepower and torque" so no doubt the bikes worth an extra 3k just for the exhausts...


Shit yeah. My bike has doubled in value for having a Yoshi. :woohoo:

Yet at even twice of what I paid for it dealers are selling similar bikes for more. :blink:

[mossy1200]

Shit yeah. My bike has doubled in value for having a Yoshi. :woohoo:

Yet at even twice of what I paid for it dealers are selling similar bikes for more. :blink:

I got 2;):motu:

[nzspokes]

I got 2;):motu:

But your Yoshi's would have cost more than my bike. :nya:

[Rhys]

Imagine what it would they be worth if people actually cleaned it before taking pictures and putting it on t/m

[mossy1200]

But your Yoshi's would have cost more than my bike. :nya:

Nah cost under a 1k but makes the bike worth an extra 10k maybe more.

[nzspokes]

Nah cost under a 1k but makes the bike worth an extra 10k maybe more.

I gained 50 HP on the butt dyno. :eek::laugh:

[mossy1200]

I gained 50 HP on the butt dyno. :eek::laugh:

That's a great result.

[nzspokes]

That's a great result.

Its a Hyperbike now. :blink::no:

[AllanB]

Its a Hyperbike now. :blink::no:

What about the suspension?........

[gammaguy]

Wing ping corporation of Wong pong are selling them for just a dollar profit and they are millionaires.

Yup.and so am I

[nzspokes]

What about the suspension?........

Well it has a yellow spring.:lol:

[Banditbandit]

If you want to see the biggest ripoffs on TM, take a look at what people are asking for their wreck of a Landcruiser or Safari/Patrol that is 10 years overdue to be scrapped. Same goes with Hiluxes.

Scrap a Hilux ??? Never .. they do not break ... just ask Top Gear ...

[Drew]

Scrap a Hilux ??? Never .. they do not break ... just ask Top Gear ...They break, their just still driveable afterwards.

[superjackal]

I have come to the conclusion that a lot of people who think they are trying to sell stuff on tardme aren't really trying to sell things, particularly motorbikes, at all.

They use it as an online vanity project: See my cool bike? Isn't it awesome. Yes its five years old and has done 50,000kms and because I have put tassels and these bitchin new handgrips on it, of course it is "worth" 90% of the price of a brand new one with a two year warranty.

Get real!

Other TM dislikes:

1. No photo on search page. FFS - for the fees they charge you could get one free frickin photo to make people able to search your site more easily!
2. Excessive fees - greedy pigs.
3. Extra charges for everything. A$$holes.
4. Excessive fees - greedy pigs.
5. Crappy search functionality.
6. Limited buying/selling history.
7. Reverts to Featured First everytime you change search.
8. Excessive fees.
9. Allowing negative feedback from buyers who never pick up their sh*t.
10. Excessive fees.
11. You have got to go to your watchlist to find items you're bidding on.
12. Excessive fees.

It's a shame ebay never took off as it's functionality is 100 x better....

[5150]

Other TM dislikes:

1. No photo on search page. FFS - for the fees they charge you could get one free frickin photo to make people able to search your site more easily!
2. Excessive fees - greedy pigs.
3. Extra charges for everything. A$$holes.
4. Excessive fees - greedy pigs.
5. Crappy search functionality.
6. Limited buying/selling history.
7. Reverts to Featured First everytime you change search.
8. Excessive fees.
9. Allowing negative feedback from buyers who never pick up their sh*t.
10. Excessive fees.
11. You have got to go to your watchlist to find items you're bidding on.
12. Excessive fees.

It's a shame ebay never took off as it's functionality is 100 x better....

You forgot to mention the excessive fees

[Erelyes]

Other TM dislikes:

1. No photo on search page. FFS - for the fees they charge you could get one free frickin photo to make people able to search your site more easily!
2. Excessive fees - greedy pigs.
3. Extra charges for everything. A$$holes.
4. Excessive fees - greedy pigs.
5. Crappy search functionality.
6. Limited buying/selling history.
7. Reverts to Featured First everytime you change search.
8. Excessive fees.
9. Allowing negative feedback from buyers who never pick up their sh*t.
10. Excessive fees.
11. You have got to go to your watchlist to find items you're bidding on.
12. Excessive fees.

It's a shame ebay never took off as it's functionality is 100 x better....

1. Shit sanity filters on their searching. 2cc car (2L)? Made in 0093 A.D.? No problem.
2. Dealer listings. Usually have fuckall content, 1/4 of which will be incorrect, and a 50cc scooter in the 'tourers' category? (Complained about one of these listings and still in the wrong category 2 months later)
3. Mobile site is pants, I can't figure out how to get to the 'Helmets, Clothing and Footwear' category without switching to full version.
4. Excessive fees!!!!
5. No free tech support chat for established customers (say, over 50 feedback)
6. Categorisation is terrible for some things. For example.
Clothing > Unisex accessories > Unisex Bags > Backpacks
Clothing > Womenswear > Bags and Handbags > Backpacks
Clothing > Boys > Bags and Accessories > Backpacks
Clothing > Girls > Bags and Accessories > Backpacks
Clothing > Kids > Bags and Accessories > Bags & backpacks
(sorry menswear, no backpacks for you, but you can have....)
Sports > Camping & outdoors > Packs > Day packs

etc.....

[SMOKEU]

One of the worst things are all the over sensitive cry-babies that go bitching to the mods every time they see a post on the TM message boards that they are too stupid to comprehend.

The fuckers banned me from there several years ago.

[jasonu]

One of the worst things are all the over sensitive cry-babies that go bitching to the mods every time they see a post on the TM message boards that they are too stupid to comprehend.

The fuckers banned me from there several years ago.

Did someone object to you using the word 'Kaffir'

[gammaguy]

Did someone object to you using the word 'Kaffir'

He probably used a word with more than two syllables,so the dimbulbs on there couldn't understand it.To play safe they decided to get offended by it instead

To guage mentality,check out this gem of a question I received on one of my auctions there today

"
can u give me the pacific websyt 4 this please because i cant not find or it gives me 1nz i cnt understand ":no:

[SMOKEU]

Did someone object to you using the word 'Kaffir'

Not that word, but apparently the words "fuck" and "shit" are apparently deemed offensive enough to initiate a lifetime ban.




To guage mentality,check out this gem of a question I received on one of my auctions there today

"
can u give me the pacific websyt 4 this please because i cant not find or it gives me 1nz i cnt understand ":no:

You should say "Sorry, I don't speak that language. Please rephrase it English".



What's really interesting is to check out some of the listings and auctions on early to mid 1990's Japanese "performance" cars such as a WRX, Mitsubishi Evo, and in particular the RWD Nissans like the Skylines, Laurels and A31 Cefiros. Some of the language takes quite some time to decipher. The Q&A section in auctions is known to be especially entertaining.

[Banditbandit]

One of the worst things are all the over sensitive cry-babies that go bitching to the mods every time they see a post on the TM message boards that they are too stupid to comprehend.

The fuckers banned me from there several years ago.

We'd prolly ban you here too - but its not up to us ... it's an Afrikaaner habit ...

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/52092/banning

[Crasherfromwayback]

He probably used a word with more than two syllables,

I doubt that very much.

[SMOKEU]

We'd prolly ban you here too - but its not up to us ... it's an Afrikaaner habit ...

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/52092/banning

I've never even heard of it until now! Cheers for sharing.

[jasonu]

We'd prolly ban you here too - but its not up to us ... it's an Afrikaaner habit ...

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/52092/banning

What is all this 'we' shit? Speak for yourself mate.

[gammaguy]

Not that word, but apparently the words "fuck" and "shit" are apparently deemed offensive enough to initiate a lifetime ban.



You should say "Sorry, I don't speak that language. Please rephrase it English".



What's really interesting is to check out some of the listings and auctions on early to mid 1990's Japanese "performance" cars such as a WRX, Mitsubishi Evo, and in particular the RWD Nissans like the Skylines, Laurels and A31 Cefiros. Some of the language takes quite some time to decipher. The Q&A section in auctions is known to be especially entertaining.


The transport and entertainment of choice for the mono brain celled trailer trash troglodytes euphemistically called car enthusiasts.

Not surprisingly,as they are barely in the same time space continuum as the rest of intelligent life,neither is their language.

Laugh?
I nearly went to ethiopia

[SMOKEU]

The transport and entertainment of choice for the mono brain celled trailer trash troglodytes euphemistically called car enthusiasts.

Not surprisingly,as they are barely in the same time space continuum as the rest of intelligent life,neither is their language.

Laugh?
I nearly went to ethiopia

I usually just refer to them as white trash.