View Full Version : Police bike, before, during and after
rastuscat
9th September 2013, 20:18
Before.
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During.
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After.
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I was trying to put the video directly on here, too bloody dumb to manage it, sorry.
DrunkenMistake
9th September 2013, 20:19
Roast pork.
:shifty:
I hope no one was injured? what caused it?
rastuscat
9th September 2013, 20:20
Roast pork.
:shifty:
I hope no one was injured? what caused it?
Nobody hurt.
Battery lead positive shorted against the frame. Boom.
skippa1
9th September 2013, 20:22
I was trying to put the video directly on here, too bloody dumb to manage it, sorry.
The tarpy and pull start rope came out of the fire surprisingly un harmed.
rastuscat
9th September 2013, 20:27
The tarpy and pull start rope came out of the fire surprisingly un harmed.
The plastic bag on the tarp was recovered too.
onearmedbandit
9th September 2013, 20:41
So are they giving you a new one?
george formby
9th September 2013, 20:42
Nobody hurt.
Battery lead positive shorted against the frame. Boom.
What species of battery was it? Just out of interest. For the members of the Kiwi Battery Forum......
Drew
9th September 2013, 20:47
What species of battery was it? Just out of interest. For the members of the Kiwi Battery Forum......I was gonna ask this.
With all the stuff on a cop bike, I imagine the charging system would be beefed up, but the battery should be able to remain pretty much standard. My electrical knowledge is shit house though, so I'm probably wrong and the things run two truck batteries.
Ocean1
9th September 2013, 20:53
What species of battery was it? Just out of interest. For the members of the Kiwi Battery Forum......
Assaultn.
...
BigAl
9th September 2013, 21:23
Now that's what I call a 'burn out'! :eek5:
Oblivion
9th September 2013, 21:29
Bit of paint and you got yourself a rat bike ;)
nzspokes
9th September 2013, 21:32
Tyres look better than I would have thought afterwards.
Racing Dave
9th September 2013, 21:33
...and then there was one.
rastuscat
9th September 2013, 21:40
I walked around a bit that day and said to people "It'll buff out".
Basically, I needed a laugh, coz it felt pretty shithouse looking after a bike for 6 years then seeing it go that way.
Here's a pic of the same spot on my personal R1200RT.
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Where the red lead runs adjacent to the frame cross member, that's where the short happened on the work bike.
Note that on my one, there's a small piece of insulation where the cable gets close to the frame. Maybe VMW knew it was a problem by 2009, the year my one was built.
For the techies, the battery was a BMW factory one, about 12 months old. Don't blame the battery, it was the cable chafing on the frame.
Still feeling pretty shithouse about it actually, like I've lost a friend.
rastuscat
9th September 2013, 21:41
Tyres look better than I would have thought afterwards.
Yeah, we all thought that too. A close examination however showed that in the hottest spot, the rubber had melted away, and you could view the wires normally hidden.
rastuscat
9th September 2013, 21:47
I was gonna ask this.
With all the stuff on a cop bike, I imagine the charging system would be beefed up, but the battery should be able to remain pretty much standard. My electrical knowledge is shit house though, so I'm probably wrong and the things run two truck batteries.
The differences between my personal RT and a work RT-P are quite vast.
The RT-P has a second battery, responsible for running the flashing lights, siren and radios. That way, you can leave the flashing lights on at a scene, run that battery flat, and still have the main battery to start the bike with.
The problem we had though, was that the RT and RT-P are a touring bike, but we use them mostly around town, where they have their greatest strategic advantage.
Man Hoover Billy-T
Maneuverability.
If you don't keep the revs above 2000 for a fair proportion of the time, the aux battery just wouldn't charge. You'd lose your sirens first, then the lights would fail, due to the reducing voltage as the aux battery declined.
It's not the bikes, which I love. It's the way we use them, the job we give them to do.
Sigh.
Gremlin
9th September 2013, 22:13
One thing you may be interested in, I believe the older RT-P ('07) had standard transmissions, but I suspect somewhere around '09 ish the RT-P's got the altered first gear, which makes the low speed work easier, plus the strain on clutch and transmission... Can't confirm that tho...
So about that better work stories... I think I'd rather keep my bike intact thanks :eek:
btw, was he stealing the road cones or retrieving them?
T.W.R
10th September 2013, 00:07
After.
:lol: Geesh that jerry built stuff stands up to a cooking better than the things the wops build :yes:
pic is a few years old
gloplg
10th September 2013, 01:06
Glad you are ok Rastus. Shame about your bike, I guess shit happens.
5150
10th September 2013, 06:15
That will buff out.... :whistle:
nzspokes
10th September 2013, 06:31
The differences between my personal RT and a work RT-P are quite vast.
The RT-P has a second battery, responsible for running the flashing lights, siren and radios. That way, you can leave the flashing lights on at a scene, run that battery flat, and still have the main battery to start the bike with.
The problem we had though, was that the RT and RT-P are a touring bike, but we use them mostly around town, where they have their greatest strategic advantage.
Man Hoover Billy-T
Maneuverability.
If you don't keep the revs above 2000 for a fair proportion of the time, the aux battery just wouldn't charge. You'd lose your sirens first, then the lights would fail, due to the reducing voltage as the aux battery declined.
It's not the bikes, which I love. It's the way we use them, the job we give them to do.
Sigh.
Easy fix. :yes:
roogazza
10th October 2013, 10:55
Noel Talent ?
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willytheekid
10th October 2013, 11:25
...If you don't keep the revs above 2000 for a fair proportion of the time, the aux battery just wouldn't charge. You'd lose your sirens first, then the lights would fail, due to the reducing voltage as the aux battery declined.
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Between bursting into flames & the above...they reallly shouldn't have passed a WOF check huh :shifty:
...we may have to start pulling YOU over for vehicle checks! :killingme
Hope the bike gets replaced in time for summer mate :niceone:
Edbear
10th October 2013, 12:18
Easy fix. :yes:
:yes: :done:
R650R
10th October 2013, 16:36
For the techies, the battery was a BMW factory one, about 12 months old. Don't blame the battery, it was the cable chafing on the frame.
Hhhhhmmmmm these things always tend to happen after a trip to the workshop. Had similar thing with truck but no fire, mechanic fitted new batteries, didn't quite route the cables the same and battery box cover not properly refitted (the design allows lazy people to secure it improperly....) Another driver had same thing and the lights/electrics went out as he was doing the slingshot across the Mohaka bridge at night. He needed a new seat cover after that, was a dark night too, no moon even...
Then there's that American brand of truck that keeps doing mobile BBQs on the ones that have had a second steer axle retrofitted in NZ which of course means the wiring loom gets disturbed/rerouted....
Kickaha
3rd November 2013, 05:51
I found you a replacement for the one you barbecued Rastus
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=657729229
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rastuscat
11th November 2013, 15:08
I found you a replacement for the one you barbecued Rastus
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=657729229
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It's in my hood too, might just check it out.
HenryDorsetCase
11th November 2013, 15:59
It's in my hood too, might just check it out.
strip it and make it into a Paulo bike.
HenryDorsetCase
11th November 2013, 16:00
http://victorypolicemotorcycles.com/
I like these
rastuscat
13th November 2013, 21:43
Those Victorys look awesome Henry
onearmedbandit
14th November 2013, 10:15
Here's another option for a replacement bike...
Tazz
14th November 2013, 13:22
Here's another option for a replacement bike...
My god that thing is hideous!
I love it!
Banditbandit
14th November 2013, 13:38
Here's another option for a replacement bike...
A Noddy Bike - quite a few of them still around in the classic clubs. I haven't seen one kept like that before ...
GrayWolf
15th November 2013, 17:40
Here's another option for a replacement bike...
fuck off....
i remember them, do you have ANY idea how fucking quiet those 'noddy' bikes are???
onearmedbandit
15th November 2013, 17:42
fuck off....
i remember them, do you have ANY idea how fucking quiet those 'noddy' bikes are???
No, I'm afraid I don't.
varminter
19th November 2013, 18:43
I remember them, didn't know why they were called 'noddy bikes' though. That's another bit of trivia to file away, thanks.
scumdog
19th November 2013, 19:18
No, I'm afraid I don't.
Never heard one huh???;)
BMWGSER
24th November 2013, 13:48
Hi Rastus
Have You got Ya new bike yet? Sore a couple of new RT-P s sitting in at Experience BMW on Friday, they must be slow getting these bikes thru the system and kitted out for You. It might be there before X-mas
rastuscat
26th November 2013, 06:24
Hi Rastus
Have You got Ya new bike yet? Sore a couple of new RT-P s sitting in at Experience BMW on Friday, they must be slow getting these bikes thru the system and kitted out for You. It might be there before X-mas
They are busy prototyping the comms outfitting.
Hoping to have the new one before Feb, need it for our annual recertifications.
SuperMac
12th January 2014, 11:52
I remember them, didn't know why they were called 'noddy bikes' though. That's another bit of trivia to file away, thanks.
IIRC it was because riders couldn't salute senior officers they were permitted to nod instead.
unstuck
12th January 2014, 12:31
IIRC it was because riders couldn't salute senior officers they were permitted to nod instead.
Come on now, you read that in the pic at the top of the page didn't you?:msn-wink:
scumdog
12th January 2014, 18:53
No, I'm afraid I don't.
They were known as "The silent grey fellow' or 'the grey ghost' or something similar due to their silence.
SuperMac
13th January 2014, 03:08
Come on now, you read that in the pic at the top of the page didn't you?:msn-wink:
I posted from my phone - it would had to have been read out for me to know what it said!
Waihou Thumper
13th January 2014, 14:33
Was it the smell of burning or was your bum getting warm or was it parked and then caught alight?
Always an issue with the electrics hidden, pays to look and inspect frequently for chafing, rubbing etc.
My Motobatt posts can come loose with vibration, nice batteries but you got to be aware!
Good luck on the new ride :)
rustic101
13th January 2014, 15:35
Best replacement option:
Two wheels, handle bar, man ooo ver raaa Billy T, disco lights and a sound system everything you ever wanted for ChCh - No?
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and to catch those that exceed the machines 21kph use this tactical option...
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:rolleyes:
G4L4XY
13th January 2014, 15:39
I waved out to a couple of bikie cops as I was heading out of Whangamata one time...bastards didn't even acknowledge me.
rastuscat
25th January 2014, 16:49
Our cunning plan to get 56 replaced has paid off. Torching the 2007 R1200RT-P back in August has finally paid off, as I rode the new 2013 R1200RT-P (DOHC this one) back from Wellytown today.
30 kgs lighter (the bike, not me), handles and accelerates beautifully. Nothing uncivilized, just predictable power and handling.
Cool. See yaz out there, Cantabrians.
tigertim20
25th January 2014, 17:48
Our cunning plan to get 56 replaced has paid off. Torching the 2007 R1200RT-P back in August has finally paid off, as I rode the new 2013 R1200RT-P (DOHC this one) back from Wellytown today.
30 kgs lighter (the bike, not me), handles and accelerates beautifully. Nothing uncivilized, just predictable power and handling.
Cool. See yaz out there, Cantabrians.
does this one come with an extinguisher as standard equipment?:shifty:
Gremlin
25th January 2014, 18:42
Our cunning plan to get 56 replaced has paid off. Torching the 2007 R1200RT-P back in August has finally paid off, as I rode the new 2013 R1200RT-P (DOHC this one) back from Wellytown today.
30 kgs lighter (the bike, not me), handles and accelerates beautifully. Nothing uncivilized, just predictable power and handling.
Noice :lol: Just remember you can't do that every week aye? It's a special method...
Would be interested to know if the transmission ratio is lower in this one, ie, you can do a slower speed before needing the clutch.
rastuscat
26th January 2014, 07:05
Noice :lol: Just remember you can't do that every week aye? It's a special method...
Would be interested to know if the transmission ratio is lower in this one, ie, you can do a slower speed before needing the clutch.
Actually feels like it could use another gear at cruising speed. I looked for 6th a few times when already in 6th.
Will comment on it again after a few rides. And after my guys have their time on it.
willytheekid
26th January 2014, 08:33
Our cunning plan to get 56 replaced has paid off. Torching the 2007 R1200RT-P back in August has finally paid off, as I rode the new 2013 R1200RT-P (DOHC this one) back from Wellytown today.
30 kgs lighter (the bike, not me), handles and accelerates beautifully. Nothing uncivilized, just predictable power and handling.
Cool. See yaz out there, Cantabrians.
Nice one Ras, great to see the fleet back up to strength :niceone: (nothing better than seeing a cunning plan pay off)
I found this video review of the bike: (Yank version)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tEPIcmtOO4
...Look forward to your ride review of the new toy (30kg lighter!!, thats a hell of alot of weight to loose:yes:...did they ditch the donut storage? :killingme)
ps...can we have a go?:eek:
rastuscat
26th January 2014, 16:56
The one in the vid is the old model. I have a personal one of those.
in 2010 they went to DOHC, and that's the model we have now, except it's a 2013.
The bigger differences are
Lighter
More oomph
different lights and siren aka bells and whistles
heated seat
Traction control
Better enforcement switch gear
The next gen has water cooling, and hasn't been released yet. The one we have now is a new model, but the water cooled one is a game changer, when it arrives.
rastuscat
26th January 2014, 16:58
ps...can we have a go?:eek:
It's too Cherman for you.
blackdog
26th January 2014, 17:05
The one in the vid is the old model. I have a personal one of those.
in 2010 they went to DOHC, and that's the model we have now, except it's a 2013.
The bigger differences are
Lighter
More oomph
different lights and siren aka bells and whistles
heated seat
Traction control
Better enforcement switch gear
The next gen has water cooling, and hasn't been released yet. The one we have now is a new model, but the water cooled one is a game changer, when it arrives.
Brakes are 'sposed to be pretty good too.
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DMNTD
26th January 2014, 17:34
Cool. See yaz out there, Cantabrians.
Awesomeness....feel free to wave out, only :niceone:
Madness
26th January 2014, 18:07
heated seat
I would have thought the seat was pretty toasty on the old one, if only on the final ride...
EJK
26th January 2014, 19:06
The next gen has water cooling, and hasn't been released yet. The one we have now is a new model, but the water cooled one is a game changer, when it arrives.
Built in sprinklers eh? Not bad!
rastuscat
26th January 2014, 19:39
The H2O cooled ones might become steam driven, if we get our way.......
Drew
1st February 2014, 11:40
Brakes are 'sposed to be pretty good too.
292996Chris Pfeifer is the fucken MAN!
Brett
1st February 2014, 11:49
I walked around a bit that day and said to people "It'll buff out".
Basically, I needed a laugh, coz it felt pretty shithouse looking after a bike for 6 years then seeing it go that way.
Here's a pic of the same spot on my personal R1200RT.
287333
Where the red lead runs adjacent to the frame cross member, that's where the short happened on the work bike.
Note that on my one, there's a small piece of insulation where the cable gets close to the frame. Maybe VMW knew it was a problem by 2009, the year my one was built.
For the techies, the battery was a BMW factory one, about 12 months old. Don't blame the battery, it was the cable chafing on the frame.
Still feeling pretty shithouse about it actually, like I've lost a friend.
Can I ask respectfully, if you ride the R1200RT daily for work why you would own the same bike as a personal ride? I mean, I know that they are a pretty good bike, but wouldn't you have something different for bit of a change when riding for leisure?
Also - are the cop bikes not like the sergeant cars having locked firearms and ammunition in/on them? If they are...that could have made the fire a fair bit worse.
Glad to see you have a new ride now though :)
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