The WR250 Thread

[oneblackflag]

Hi,

I'm looking into getting my 1st 'proper' dirt bike since my KDX80 as a kid.

Have been having a bit of fun on the old mans DRZ250 lately and its been bringing a smile to my face.

I really would like something dual purpose and road legal. Some fun in the dirt and short rides on the road just to get to the shops etc to save money on gas. From what I've read and seen I like the thought of getting a WR250.... the 250r would be best I guess but they seem a bit pricy and rare... I've read in other posts people having road legal WR250f 's but they are older posts. I see on the Yamaha website the new ones are 'learner approved' so i'm guessing they can go on road....

If I brought a WR250f thats not rego'd can I just buy indicators/ road legal tyres etc for it then get a vin reg and warrant?? ebay.com/itm/Street-Legal-Kit-WR250F-WR-250F-WR400-WR426-400-426-/221218212113 one of these?

Sorry if this is so obvious and is asked alot...

Thanks for any info

[fridayflash]

gidday blackflag, welcome to kiwibiker..yes you 'can' go through the hassle of getting a trailbike vinned and legal but buying a ready to roll machine is a much better bet unless your already an expert on the above. is price an issue and what would your budget be? easy to find a drz250 road legal or splash out more for the bike you want...wr250r!

[oneblackflag]

gidday blackflag, welcome to kiwibiker..yes you 'can' go through the hassle of getting a trailbike vinned and legal but buying a ready to roll machine is a much better bet unless your already an expert on the above. is price an issue and what would your budget be? easy to find a drz250 road legal or splash out more for the bike you want...wr250r!

Thanks for that. I was only hoping to to spend 5-6k... wanting to sell my current farm bike a CTX200 which i don't need. A DRZ would do the trick alright but really like the look of a WR more (not the best justification). Wouldn't be a problem if I sold my car which im 50-50 about, and just had a single car household! If I did sell my car would I be better of getting the 450 as i would probably do more road riding?

[Drew]

In the 250, I think the only one with the required wiring and stuff for the road is the WR250R.

I nearly bought one a while back, cool bikes.

Bit gutless, but the motors are built for long service intervals.

You'd get a second hand KTM enduro for that money I expect, but you'd wanna be bloody handy with the spanners. They need a rebuild as often as a lot of two strokes.

Edit. It's the R model that's road legal.

[pete-blen]

The WR250F is not a long lived motor... not going to get the same mileage as you would from the R version...
WR250F & YZF250 are based on the same platform but the WR250R is a totaly diffrent bike/diffrent motor.
If yer after a water cooled motor than can clock up the Km...kawasaki KLX250
all just depends on what yer really want to do with it... & what you may want to do tomorrow... longer
road ADV rides etc..

[Drew]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-637469064.htm

If ya wanna have some real fun!

[george formby]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-637469064.htm

If ya wanna have some real fun!

How reliable are them? Need another road legal trailie in the family & like light with might but I'm rubbish with spanners. WR 250r has been on the radar, too. Some folk are having epic adventures on them. Check out the ADVforum.

[pomgolian]

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You can buy them street legal this WR250F i bought in 2004 new for 13k and kept it until about 18 months ago sold it for 6k before buying a DR650, used the WR for trail riding and alot of gravel, changed the oil regularly with quality fully synthetic oil & never had any issues motor was never touched other than checking the valve clearances which never needed adjustment. Great bike just no good for long distance riding. Coupled with horror stories on advrider mainly in the US of engine blow ups, motor revved to 14,000 rpm i think which i rarely used and it seemed all the US blow ups were high revving use.

Buying used i would be very wary unless it was the WR250R which seems the much better package for general use.

[Drew]

How reliable are them? Need another road legal trailie in the family & like light with might but I'm rubbish with spanners. WR 250r has been on the radar, too. Some folk are having epic adventures on them. Check out the ADVforum.Short service intervals I think...



You can buy them street legal this WR250F i bought in 2004 new for 13k and kept it until about 18 months ago sold it for 6k before buying a DR650, used the WR for trail riding and alot of gravel, changed the oil regularly with quality fully synthetic oil & never had any issues motor was never touched other than checking the valve clearances which never needed adjustment. Great bike just no good for long distance riding. Coupled with horror stories on advrider mainly in the US of engine blow ups, motor revved to 14,000 rpm i think which i rarely used and it seemed all the US blow ups were high revving use.

Buying used i would be very wary unless it was the WR250R which seems the much better package for general use.The WR250F is a completely different beast to the "R" I think. Not sure about the older ones though. I know ya can't get the road legal 450 anymore.

The R motor is more akin to one slug of an R1, then to a YZF.

[pete-blen]

Short service intervals I think...

The WR250F is a completely different beast to the "R" I think. Not sure about the older ones though. I know ya can't get the road legal 450 anymore.

The R motor is more akin to one slug of an R1, then to a YZF.

They stoped importing the road legal WR250F when the WR250R came to be about 2008..
WR250F prier to 2005 only has a kick start... No sissy button..
The WR250F has 2 maps in the CDI...WR & YZF map... If they are standard they
put out 21hp @ 7500rpm... but disconect the gray wire on the CDI & they go to
the YZF map... 30hp @ 13,000 rpm... and adjust the throttle stop / pull the baffle out..
So if you can find a unmodded one the motor should be in pretty good shape still...

[oneblackflag]

Loving the input here guys.

Pretty sure i'm wanting the WR250r after seeing shootouts between them the DRZ, KLX and CRFL.... just gotta wait for a used one to come up near Auckland/Hamilton and I'll be kicking muck in your eyes... the xtra $$ brings tears to my eyes though.

Yamaha still has the 450f as road a road legal option in the catalogue, but yea I think the 250 will suit my needs fine with the usual mods.

Emailed a couple sellers on trademe mainly south island.... is it too risky to buy without inspection? they 'seem' like tidy lowish-mid k's bikes seemingly un-moded engines 3-8000k's

[Night Falcon]

Loving the input here guys.

Pretty sure i'm wanting the WR250r after seeing shootouts between them the DRZ, KLX and CRFL.... just gotta wait for a used one to come up near Auckland/Hamilton and I'll be kicking muck in your eyes... the xtra $$ brings tears to my eyes though.

Yamaha still has the 450f as road a road legal option in the catalogue, but yea I think the 250 will suit my needs fine with the usual mods.

Emailed a couple sellers on trademe mainly south island.... is it too risky to buy without inspection? they 'seem' like tidy lowish-mid k's bikes seemingly un-moded engines 3-8000k's

if you ask nicely maybe one of the SI inmates could look at a bike for you and give an opinion - still your risk though. I've bought cars and bikes on the sellers word before and had mixed results - but still happy with what I got, buyer beware and all that - a dude wanting to dump a clanger will tend to "accentuate" the positives and "gloss over" the negatives so buying sight unseen is not without its dangers - some folks call lying and cheating salesmanship :Police:

Most adventure riders tend to be "salt of the earth" people though so are reasonably honest....reasonably.... some KLR owners can be pretty dodgy though :shifty: Don't be afraid to post picks on here, someone may know a bikes history - its a small world.

Its always exciting buying a new bike and seeing what you finally end up with -good luck :corn:

[oneblackflag]

if you ask nicely maybe one of the SI inmates could look at a bike for you and give an opinion - still your risk though. I've bought cars and bikes on the sellers word before and had mixed results - but still happy with what I got, buyer beware and all that - a dude wanting to dump a clanger will tend to "accentuate" the positives and "gloss over" the negatives so buying sight unseen is not without its dangers - some folks call lying and cheating salesmanship :Police:

Most adventure riders tend to be "salt of the earth" people though so are reasonably honest....reasonably.... some KLR owners can be pretty dodgy though :shifty: Don't be afraid to post picks on here, someone may know a bikes history - its a small world.

Its always exciting buying a new bike and seeing what you finally end up with -good luck :corn:

I've emailed these sellers asking a few basic things like has it had engine/exhaust mods previously, come with org tank etc and $$shipping

Anyone in any of these towns and willing to take time out to have a look... or even just look at listing and give ur opinion on price/cond etc, would get my thumbs up :2thumbsup


http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=638073573 -ChCh
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=632408439 -Invercargill
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=624544010 -Nelson
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=632948328 -New Plymouth

[pete-blen]

I've emailed these sellers asking a few basic things like has it had engine/exhaust mods previously, come with org tank etc and $$shipping

Anyone in any of these towns and willing to take time out to have a look... or even just look at listing and give ur opinion on price/cond etc, would get my thumbs up :2thumbsup


http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=638073573 -ChCh
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=632408439 -Invercargill
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=624544010 -Nelson
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=632948328 -New Plymouth

Ask Transalper to have a look at the CHCH one if yer intrested in it...as he has a WR250F..

[Transalper]

I have the WR250R and i bought new because I don't have the foggiest what I'm looking at second hand.
It's taken a bit to get used to the way the power is delivered but I'm liking it a lot more now.
My Safari tank only holds 13 liters so don't know how he gets 16 in the pone on TM but still good for 350km+

[Drew]

I have the WR250R and i bought new because I don't have the foggiest what I'm looking at second hand.With those things, if it doesn't look to have been off road a lot, listen for rattles in the motor. The rest is covered by the WOF if it was done at a bike shop.

[pete-blen]

I have the WR250R and i bought new because I don't have the foggiest what I'm looking at second hand.
It's taken a bit to get used to the way the power is delivered but I'm liking it a lot more now.
My Safari tank only holds 13 liters so don't know how he gets 16 in the pone on TM but still good for 350km+


opps... Sorry TA... ment "R"

[oneblackflag]

Well I did it... got a WR250r... and i'm pretty stoked with it.

[Drew]

Well I did it... got a WR250r... and i'm pretty stoked with it.Choice bike, do a wheelie mista!

[pete-blen]

Good choice...:cool:

[oneblackflag]

Choice bike, do a wheelie mista!

Fo shawa! .

[Night Falcon]

nifty bike...and the side reflectors work supremely well :clap:

[pipe]

Tidy bike.

Read up on the popular mods for these bikes then get your credit card and a box for the bits that come off ready:laugh:

There is a huge difference between standard and one that has all the popular modifications makes them in to a good all rounder.

[oneblackflag]

Tidy bike.

Read up on the popular mods for these bikes then get your credit card and a box for the bits that come off ready:laugh:

There is a huge difference between standard and one that has all the popular modifications makes them in to a good all rounder.

Yea cant wait to get started... kinda maxed out my card getting it so it'll be awhile before the more expensive items like exhaust and tuner. Is there a good priced NZ source for all the bits and pieces i'll be wanting? Hope to get on a Waikato group ride once i get my licence... :Police:

[pipe]

Cheapest option for most parts is from the states especially the pipe and tuner.

For any suspension work talk to Wayne at Blackwoods he has done my forks and shock giving a major improvement in handling.

[dino3310]

Cheapest option for most parts is from the states especially the pipe and tuner.

For any suspension work talk to Wayne at Blackwoods he has done my forks and shock giving a major improvement in handling.

this is :Offtopic: but.... Gidday Pipe:wavey: good to see you still around mate.



as you were gentleman

[pipe]

this is :Offtopic: but.... Gidday Pipe:wavey: good to see you still around mate.



as you were gentleman

Hey Dino

good to see your still clocking the K's up.

[Dave h]

How are you liking the WRR?

I've had mine for awhile now and I'm in the process of turning it back from a farm hack to a wof'ed and rego'd adv bike

Farkles so far are force radiator guard an bashplate and have doubletake mirrors on order

[oneblackflag]

How are you liking the WRR?

I've had mine for awhile now and I'm in the process of turning it back from a farm hack to a wof'ed and rego'd adv bike

Farkles so far are force radiator guard an bashplate and have doubletake mirrors on order

Yea loving it aye. Just got my license today, so hope get out on a good ride soon. My only farkel so far is the drc edge tail light, i just finished installing today, really cleans up the look of the bike. Next thing is probably a EFI programer since ive opened up the air box a bit and have baffel out... Would like the fmf pipe and headder but $$$ really need a bash plate and radiator gaurd too!

[Dave h]

How did you go in your theory? 35/35 they should give you a choclate fish or something aye.

How easy was the edge to install?

[That looks like fun]

https://sites.google.com/site/sandmanparts/home/freedom-case-saver-kit :niceone:

[oneblackflag]

How did you go in your theory? 35/35 they should give you a choclate fish or something aye.

How easy was the edge to install?

No choccy fish for me... 34/35 :spanking:

The DRC was pretty easy, I just ran in to trouble when half way through the install I realised I couldn't fit the stock flashers to it... Got some pretty ones today for it.

[oneblackflag]

https://sites.google.com/site/sandmanparts/home/freedom-case-saver-kit :niceone:

Looks good. Thanks for that.

[JimmyC]

The DRC was pretty easy, I just ran in to trouble when half way through the install I realised I couldn't fit the stock flashers to it... Got some pretty ones today for it.

You can order the DRC with flashers can't you? I'm interested in getting one for my bike since I managed to kick that silly standard long tail thing during a half arsed mounting attempt and bent it all out of shape...

Did you source yours locally or from the US? I was looking at getting one from soloracer.com.

[oneblackflag]

You can order the DRC with flashers can't you? I'm interested in getting one for my bike since I managed to kick that silly standard long tail thing during a half arsed mounting attempt and bent it all out of shape...

Did you source yours locally or from the US? I was looking at getting one from soloracer.com.

Yea I see you can choose to get them with flashers from soloracer. I just took the part number to my local bike shop and it was delivered the next day. Cost wise it was $40 nz more expensive than the soloracer one, but then you have to add shipping...

Im not surprised the stock one got beat up, I broke mine just backing the bike around in the garage and it bumped the wall, the number plate light part came right off.

What farkels do you have on your bike?

[oneblackflag]

I'll just add another thing about the DRC tail light that could catch some out: You wont have a rear reflector which (I think) you need for a WOF. You can get the DRC one (another extra $$) http://www.northern.co.nz/products/131-electric_and_electronic_compon/1031-drc_motoled_reflector.aspx ooor you can do what I've done and put a small L bracket (fixed on top of the DRC light brcket) with one of the side reflectors off the stock unit attached. This looks better IMO. I'll post a pic of what I've done soon.

[oneblackflag]

Pictures.......

[JimmyC]

My bike came with Zeta hand guards, other than that it was bog standard. I've only added grip puppies, 30mm bar risers and a set of Dunlop 606's to date. Had to replace the factory shifter after a piece of drift wood flicked up and broke the hinge. The OEM shifter is incredibly fragile... got all MacGyver on it and tied it together with some flax on the trail to get back to civilisation. Added duct tape to my tool kit now :Oops:

I'll definitely get the DRC kit but I'm not sure how long I'll have the bike so not sure how many farkles I'll get. Bash plate would probably be next, and if I do decide to keep it, a Safari tank will definitely be a goer.

Thanks for the tip on the reflector. I can see one on the original tail end so I'm sure that'll be on the WoF list for those that look for such things.

[oneblackflag]

My bike came with Zeta hand guards, other than that it was bog standard. I've only added grip puppies, 30mm bar risers and a set of Dunlop 606's to date. Had to replace the factory shifter after a piece of drift wood flicked up and broke the hinge. The OEM shifter is incredibly fragile... got all MacGyver on it and tied it together with some flax on the trail to get back to civilisation. Added duct tape to my tool kit now :Oops:

I'll definitely get the DRC kit but I'm not sure how long I'll have the bike so not sure how many farkles I'll get. Bash plate would probably be next, and if I do decide to keep it, a Safari tank will definitely be a goer.

Thanks for the tip on the reflector. I can see one on the original tail end so I'm sure that'll be on the WoF list for those that look for such things.

Nice work with the flax :niceone:

You thinking of getting a bigger bike at some stage?

[JimmyC]

Nice work with the flax :niceone:

You thinking of getting a bigger bike at some stage?

I felt positively triumphant yet decidedly muppet like at the same time for not having that sort of thing covered but hey, a good learning experience.

The more I ride it, the more I love the WRR, it's such a neat bike that does so many things well. I'd like to venture much further afield though whilst maintaining that off-road bias so yeah... I know some guys literally ride them round the world but it wouldn't be my idea of the ideal machine for that job. In the perfect world I'd keep it and buy something else as well but reg and insurance just sucks the life\money\fun out of it for me... Very happy for the time being tho :-)

[Dave h]

That looks much betterer than the stock boat anchor.

I just tried to order one through soloracer but when I got to the "checkout" there doesn't seem to be a way to enter an international address,
anyhows Ive sent them an email.

Did order a Wolfman enduro tank bag from revzilla though so all is not lost :)

[Dave h]

Has anyone got the 3 gallon IMS tank on their WRR? I'm getting annoyed with the range of the stock tank and am looking at this as an option along with the Safari tank.

[dino3310]

pretty sure "thatlookslikefun" has

[That looks like fun]

One that looks like this?

[Bonzo]

One that looks like this?

all you need is some supermoto wheels for it! :headbang:

[Transalper]

One that looks like this?

So that would be the Safari then.
Everyone I've seen has the Safari option. Safari is a nice size on the bike, looks good and holds about 13.5 litres was it? But is expensive.
IMS in the pictures looks a bit more bulbous, holds more and as a bonus is cheaper from what I remember when looking. I was worried the extra capacity when full may affect feel of the bike where as with a full safari tank I'm not sure I even notice it.
That's all I know of them.
Obviously I have the Safari too, got mine direct from my local Yamaha dealer here in NZ since Yamaha NZ are now Safari agents.

[dino3310]

One that looks like this?


So that would be the Safari then.
.

almost 2 safari tanks in that picture:lol:

[That looks like fun]

So that would be the Safari then.
Everyone I've seen has the Safari option. Safari is a nice size on the bike, looks good and holds about 13.5 litres was it? But is expensive.
IMS in the pictures looks a bit more bulbous, holds more and as a bonus is cheaper from what I remember when looking. I was worried the extra capacity when full may affect feel of the bike where as with a full safari tank I'm not sure I even notice it.
That's all I know of them.
Obviously I have the Safari too, got mine direct from my local Yamaha dealer here in NZ since Yamaha NZ are now Safari agents.



13.8 ltrs :headbang: (I did put 14 in it one day)
All the extra wieght is carried lower than the original fuel tank as it is down in the wings or flaps or whatever you call them :banana:
As the bike is fuel injected Safari have a vacuum opoerated pump that lifts the fuel in the tank up to the area that the fuel pump draws from. :2thumbsup
Radiator is protected by the fuel tank so no need to buy a flash as (and costly) radiator shield :clap:
Range, about 300 to 350 ks. Although others might do better :whistle:

Which only leaves one thing unanswered, :scratch: Supermoto wheels <_< Yeahsaywhat?why? :oi-grr:

[Dave h]

Cheers for the replies. The IMS tank I was looking at is the smaller one (11.3 litres ?) which fits inside the stock shrouds. Around $450ish.

The Safari does seem the more popular one here though and as mentioned can be got through my local yammie dealer so I think that's what I'll do.

[oneblackflag]

Cheers for the replies. The IMS tank I was looking at is the smaller one (11.3 litres ?) which fits inside the stock shrouds. Around $450ish.

The Safari does seem the more popular one here though and as mentioned can be got through my local yammie dealer so I think that's what I'll do.

Let us know how much you get it for, I'm really in the market too after doing a 4k walk/push of shame the other day :facepalm:. One thing that puts me off the Safari is it seems to have their logo visibly stamped into it, I'd rather it was just a clean slate (I'm being anal I know).

Edit: I get about 170k's out of my stock tank which is really annoying... I do fang it though...

[oneblackflag]

[QUOTE= Which only leaves one thing unanswered, :scratch: Supermoto wheels <_< Yeahsaywhat?why? :oi-grr:[/QUOTE]

To be honest I have looked into Supermoto wheel sets.... would be nice to change sets depending on what you're riding but I think the cheapest were $1500 US (came with tyres tho)... them and some black plastics would be the business, but each to their own and all that :rolleyes:.

[Transalper]

July last year the safari cost me NZ$724 from the local yamaha shop. Think we already said they were expensive aye. I have no regrets though and would do it again.
They do get scratches in them when sliding on their sides on firm ground though. Can't help that, they are just there where the action is.
I'd like a cover to protect the corners but haven't done anything about it other than reading ADVGD's thing he did to the DRZ400 oversized tank which was prone to the same damage.

[oneblackflag]

all you need is some supermoto wheels for it! :headbang:

:headbang::headbang::headbang:

[oneblackflag]

July last year the safari cost me NZ$724 from the local yamaha shop. Think we already said they were expensive aye. I have no regrets though and would do it again.
They do get scratches in them when sliding on their sides on firm ground though. Can't help that, they are just there where the action is.

No problems with it busting and leaking fuel out though?

[Transalper]

Never heard of anyone actually springing a leak and seems to be plenty of meat there.
Could probably try get a picture of the scratches on mine tomorrow, it's taken some good hits with a couple of good slides and me dragging the bike around trying to pick it up in awkward places.
Mines blue and the safari logo looks good on it in my opinion, not as obvious as on the transparent ones... but I can't see my gas level which was pretty cool when I had a transparent tank on the DR650 I had..

[oneblackflag]

Do you guys with wrr's find that the throttle is really choppy from/to idle. I've read some threads regarding this but they all seem to do different things to fix it... Or not. Some say once you get a fuel programer its smooth others say its smooth when you put a larger sprocket on the rear ie 47 tooth.. Then there are others that say neither helped.

Intersested if you experience the harsh chops and if you have solved it.

I kinda worry about if i ever roll off throttle in a corner its gonna just chop the gas and i'll bin the bike. I know idealy you wouldent be trying to slow during a turn but there can be times its justified.

[Dave h]

I've started to notice that snatchiness off idle alot more since I've been commuting with the bike the last couple of weeks, seem to be getting used to it though. Never really noticed it trailriding. Maybe it's just the nature of EFI.

Ordered a Safari tank today through my local yammie dealer, was $743. Its coming from aus and should be here next Tuesday. Also got the edge tail tidy and flashers going on around the same time :)

Still waiting for my doubletake mirrors to turn up, ups track an trace thing says they left LA on the 5th of October wtf?

[Transalper]

Tank scratches at their worst on my WR... attached

Mine is a little snatchy too, kind of assume it's injector related, changing gearing makes a difference to the severity only because of the lowered gearing effect meaning it needs to rev more for the same pull... something like that. It helped a bit but mostly I got used to it and use the clutch to smooth things out in some circumstances.

[That looks like fun]

Do you guys with wrr's find that the throttle is really choppy from/to idle. I've read some threads regarding this but they all seem to do different things to fix it... Or not. Some say once you get a fuel programer its smooth others say its smooth when you put a larger sprocket on the rear ie 47 tooth.. Then there are others that say neither helped.

Intersested if you experience the harsh chops and if you have solved it.

I kinda worry about if i ever roll off throttle in a corner its gonna just chop the gas and i'll bin the bike. I know idealy you wouldent be trying to slow during a turn but there can be times its justified.

I have one of those flash as WRsssssssssssss, its got a clutch :scooter:

[That looks like fun]

almost 2 safari tanks in that picture:lol:


One thing that puts me off the Safari is it seems to have their logo visibly stamped into it, I'd rather it was just a clean slate (I'm being anal I know).

An interesting (well to me anyway) side note, Phil and I stopped somewhere one day to get gas and we were asked about these "Safari" motorbikes we were riding, apparently the joker had never heard of them before :killingme

[pete-blen]

I've started to notice that snatchiness off idle alot more since I've been commuting with the bike the last couple of weeks, seem to be getting used to it though. Never really noticed it trailriding. Maybe it's just the nature of EFI.



Tank scratches at their worst on my WR... attached

Mine is a little snatchy too, kind of assume it's injector related,

It is.... there is a mod to the twist grip that helps..

what happens is the TPS is senceing the small movement of the throttle you make with out knowing..
every time it sences a movement the ECU richen the fuel mixture thinking you are going to accelerate
when you don't it leans it back out... It's this jumping between the two fuel ratios " open & closed fueling loops" thats what makes the bike surge..
On my XT660R constance throttle fuel ratio is 13.6:1 closed loop , accelearation it's 14.7:1 open loop...

The mod is to change the twist grip to a duel ratio so the first 1/3 of the thottle is at a lower ratio..
so any movements are smaller & the TPS dose not sence them so easly...
Also to much chain slack & worn / lose cush drive rubbers will make the XTR surge...

thats why you don't notice the surging trail rideing... off & on the gas all the time... not at a constant throttle setting..

[oneblackflag]

It is.... there is a mod to the twist grip that helps..

what happens is the TPS is senceing the small movement of the throttle you make with out knowing..
every time it sences a movement the ECU richen the fuel mixture thinking you are going to accelerate
when you don't it leans it back out... It's this jumping between the two fuel ratios " open & closed fueling loops" thats what makes the bike surge..
On my XT660R constance throttle fuel ratio is 13.6:1 closed loop , accelearation it's 14.7:1 open loop...

The mod is to change the twist grip to a duel ratio so the first 1/3 of the thottle is at a lower ratio..
so any movements are smaller & the TPS dose not sence them so easly...
Also to much chain slack & worn / lose cush drive rubbers will make the XTR surge...

thats why you don't notice the surging trail rideing... off & on the gas all the time... not at a constant throttle setting..

So it looks like you cut a little grove into the grip, correct? I'll have to have a look at this tomorrow. Seems like people get good results adjusting the TPS position if its out of spec, same goes for increasing the idle up towards 1650: http://wr250rforum.forumotion.com/t5568p60-throttle-on-off-at-idle?highlight=Throttle+Position+SEnsor

Will have a play around tomorrow see if I can get some results....

Yea you could just use the clutch more I know but... Im lazy :sweatdrop:

* Well that was easy, just turned up the idle quite a bit, didn't bother going into diagnostics mode to see the tachometer. Feels a whole lot better now, not 100% may adjust the TPS at some stage.

[Dave h]

Got my Safari tank fitted last week, fits well and seems solid as and fark its good not having to gas up every 5minutes :woohoo:

Had a strange electrical prob yesterday though which has me stumped.

Went for a 2 hour trail ride (karapoti from the akas end, pram track etc ) did a couple of shallow river crossings and rode through a lot of puddles, came off once but not in water.
Got back to the parking area and turned bike off with key. One ciggie later turned key back on, made the same noise it always does (fuel pump priming?) but the noise just kept on going and hitting the start button did nothing.

Crash started it and back home 40mins later tried the key and it was fine. Its water related i'm sure but I want to get it sorted because if it happens in a place where I cant crash start it then there will be tears :crybaby:

[dino3310]

i put vaseline or simular on any electrics that may/possibly be prone to shorting, connections like that thing at the top of the spark plug lead

[clint640]

Got back to the parking area and turned bike off with key. One ciggie later turned key back on, made the same noise it always does (fuel pump priming?) but the noise just kept on going and hitting the start button did nothing.

Crash started it and back home 40mins later tried the key and it was fine. Its water related i'm sure but I want to get it sorted because if it happens in a place where I cant crash start it then there will be tears :crybaby:

That sounds suspiciously like a clutch/neutral switch starter interlock fault. Most newer e-start bikes won't switch on the starter motor unless the clutch is pulled in &/or the bike is in neutral so check those switches & their associated wiring 1st.

Cheers
Clint

[Transalper]

That sounds suspiciously like a clutch/neutral switch starter interlock fault. Most newer e-start bikes won't switch on the starter motor unless the clutch is pulled in &/or the bike is in neutral so check those switches & their associated wiring 1st.

Cheers
Clint

Interesting you say that, I had my whole side stand mount including the switch off and sitting kind of upside down/sideways..ish the other day while I drilled a hole in the bottom chain bump rubber under the swing arm to mount my chain oiler through, anyway when I turned it all right way up a heap of water dribbled out of the switch. I'm surprised it was still working so that switch may indeed be a good thing to check.
Don't know why it took an inversion to bring the water to the surface.

[Dave h]

Thanks for the advice guys I'll check the wiring you suggested.

It's been fine since then, I've hosed it down and today been riding in pissing down rain and it's all good. After reading your replies though I went out to the shed and sprayed the sidestand switch with wd40 :)

Going to wire in a usb charger next week so while I'm doing that I'll have a nosey.

[That looks like fun]

Mr Yamaha builds a darn fine bike :Punk:
Unfortunatly his electrics and switchs appear (in my humble opinion) to be crap :argh: Indicators are a piece of turd to try and turn off, you sort of push wiggle and hold the button down :brick: I have actually given up using them as it pisses me off when people pull out in front of me because I am rideing down the road with my indicator on :angry2: Just because I am indicating doesnt mean I am going to turn, they should know that :Oops:
I have also had issues with the bike failing to wind over, hold the starter for a few seconds and away it goes :scooter: Oh yes I am so excited about waiting for the day it dont go and I am parked up to my eyelids in papa mud, yessiree indeed :violin:
Got the local dealer to look at them (under warrenty), much worse now :facepalm:.

Love the rest of the bike :2thumbsup

[pete-blen]

Mr Yamaha builds a darn fine bike :Punk:
Unfortunatly his electrics and switchs appear (in my humble opinion) to be crap :argh: Indicators are a piece of turd to try and turn off, you sort of push wiggle and hold the button down :brick: I have actually given up using them as it pisses me off when people pull out in front of me because I am rideing down the road with my indicator on :angry2: Just because I am indicating doesnt mean I am going to turn, they should know that :Oops:
I have also had issues with the bike failing to wind over, hold the starter for a few seconds and away it goes :scooter: Oh yes I am so excited about waiting for the day it dont go and I am parked up to my eyelids in papa mud, yessiree indeed :violin:
Got the local dealer to look at them (under warrenty), much worse now :facepalm:.

Love the rest of the bike :2thumbsup

Don't know about the WR250R... but the XTR wireing is a issue... wires are so thin & the plastic wares though if the are rubbing on anything... steering head area is real bad...

[Transalper]

Had the blinker switch issue too, dismantled, cleaned, packed full of TF2 Lithium grease, heaps better now, almost works like new.
Stuff a heap of the same grease down the key hole when cleaning the bike too, the ignition key was a bit catchy at times prior to that.
No other issues like those spring to mind.

[JimmyC]

Haven't had any issues with my indicator switch but the ignition does play hard to get from time to time... thanks for the tip.

[That looks like fun]

Blue grease works best :innocent:

[Transalper]

had another blinker issue after a dunking last weekend, just traced it to a small bit of river grit or a very very small stone if you like, it was stuck in a spot that prevented the switch from actually going all the way to the on position to activate my left blinker.
Stone removed and cleaned the whole thing out again and all is well with the blinkers once more.

Now, what makes a wheel out of round and how much out of round is too much?
At 50kph it feels quite annoying, at 100 it's gone again or just added vibration.
Wonder if they did that on the service it just had by tightening the spokes wrong... or can an out of balance tyre (was my first thought is it simply may be in need of balancing) pull the wheel out of round?
Just spun it by hand up on the jack and can see it's not totally true.

[That looks like fun]

had another blinker issue after a dunking last weekend, just traced it to a small bit of river grit or a very very small stone if you like, it was stuck in a spot that prevented the switch from actually going all the way to the on position to activate my left blinker.
Stone removed and cleaned the whole thing out again and all is well with the blinkers once more.

Now, what makes a wheel out of round and how much out of round is too much?
At 50kph it feels quite annoying, at 100 it's gone again or just added vibration.
Wonder if they did that on the service it just had by tightening the spokes wrong... or can an out of balance tyre (was my first thought is it simply may be in need of balancing) pull the wheel out of round?
Just spun it by hand up on the jack and can see it's not totally true.

Tyre/wheel imbalance will generally alter with speed, most vehicles (bikes included) seem affected worst through the forties (kph). Its not that the imbalance has gone away at higher or lower speeds its merely affecting the vehicle differently.
Poor spoke tuning will definatly pull a rim out of true. However adjusting the spokes to rectify a bent rim is not a ggod option.
Do the sound check on the spokes, not amazingly accurate but all spokes should have an equal tension. Stick the wheel in a vice and hold by the axle so it is horizontal, give it a spin and use a ruler from your bench up to the rim. If it really is deformed I would be going back to the guy who did the service and asking some questions.

[dino3310]

ah just drop the psi a little and ride faster;)

[oneblackflag]

had another blinker issue after a dunking last weekend, just traced it to a small bit of river grit or a very very small stone if you like, it was stuck in a spot that prevented the switch from actually going all the way to the on position to activate my left blinker.
Stone removed and cleaned the whole thing out again and all is well with the blinkers once more.

Now, what makes a wheel out of round and how much out of round is too much?
At 50kph it feels quite annoying, at 100 it's gone again or just added vibration.
Wonder if they did that on the service it just had by tightening the spokes wrong... or can an out of balance tyre (was my first thought is it simply may be in need of balancing) pull the wheel out of round?
Just spun it by hand up on the jack and can see it's not totally true.


How'd ya get on with this issue?

[oneblackflag]

I've gone and ordered a FMF Powercore 4 pipe and EFI programer... Next I'll get the hedder... Just couldn't help myself.

Qute keen on the Athena 290 too.. Love the bike but its just a little under powered for long hills, passing and strong head winds.... Peope say im mad and if I want more power get a bigger bike... But this bikes so darn near perfect and reqires minimal mantanince. Dont see my self seling it. May buy a streat bike next year as well for carving up the twisties.

Oppinions? (On doing the big bore kit).

Exhaust, airbox, emissions seem to take it from 25hp to 27-28hp add the athena kit and should be well into the 30s

[dino3310]

I've gone and ordered a FMF Powercore 4 pipe and EFI programer... Next I'll get the hedder... Just couldn't help myself.

Qute keen on the Athena 290 too.. Love the bike but its just a little under powered for long hills, passing and strong head winds.... Peope say im mad and if I want more power get a bigger bike... But this bikes so darn near perfect and reqires minimal mantanince. Dont see my self seling it. May buy a streat bike next year as well for carving up the twisties.

Oppinions? (On doing the big bore kit).

Exhaust, airbox, emissions seem to take it from 25hp to 27-28hp add the athena kit and should be well into the 30s

yeah go for it

[Dave h]

Looking forward to hearing your impressions once you've got it all bolted on Oneblackflag.

Got a few more bits an pieces for mine in the last month or so;
Doubletake mirrors turned up finally
Protaper bars
Fastway evo air pegs
Tail rack
Wolfman duffel

It's neverending and to make matters worse I've started to lust over Klim riding gear :crazy:

Next week I'm going to change the gearing to 13/47, Transalper I think you mentioned in another thread that you changed yours, if you read this could you let us know what you did and how it worked out?

[oneblackflag]

Looking forward to hearing your impressions once you've got it all bolted on Oneblackflag.

Got a few more bits an pieces for mine in the last month or so;
Doubletake mirrors turned up finally
Protaper bars
Fastway evo air pegs
Tail rack
Wolfman duffel

It's neverending and to make matters worse I've started to lust over Klim riding gear :crazy:

Next week I'm going to change the gearing to 13/47, Transalper I think you mentioned in another thread that you changed yours, if you read this could you let us know what you did and how it worked out?

Addictive huh. You must be happy with the bars, I put Renthals on wich had a higher bend and the difference was night and day. Need that taill rack and bag myself... Not to mention the tank...

As for your gearing how much open road do you do? I put a 12 up front for a while which is a similer ratio to what you're considering , was great for dirt/gravel but IMHO to much revs on the road (although it could pull my fat arse to a higher speed 150 vs 130... On a closed track of course) GPS indicated...

[oneblackflag]

yeah go for it

You say the sweetest things Dino:2thumbsup

[Transalper]

How'd ya get on with this issue?
Another man gave an opinion saying it was fine, when I compare it to the two other spoked wheels my womanly friend and I have between us they are a lot rounder.
Since he said it was fine we balanced the wheel to see if that does it, first test will be this Sunday coming.


...Next week I'm going to change the gearing to 13/47, Transalper I think you mentioned in another thread that you changed yours, if you read this could you let us know what you did and how it worked out?
My gearing has changed several times, not even sure what stock was any more but it was needlessly tall.
I currently do almost everything on 13/49 including the long roady bits as necessary. It is a little low, going to 13/48 next round.
I know several people who use 13/47 for ADV and still change to 12/47 for the proper farm trail rides.
My intention is to not need to change the sprockets for the various types of rides, just make do with the inbetween... use the clutch a bit more where needed and I don't mind the extra highway revving toooo much. It still pulls 100kph (by GPS) two gears down from top with the 13/49 so just go closer to redline then back it off, it (the vibs etc) won't feel so bad after that... kind of.

[Transalper]

How'd ya get on with this issue?

Update on the bumpy ride, balancing the wheel made a difference, good enough now that I'm not sure if i'm still feeling it a little bit or if it's just Christchurchs and surrounding areas damaged warped bumpy roads. It was very obvious before.

[oneblackflag]

Seems like im waiting forever for this pipe to turn up... USPS tracking shows it was last processed in Chicago on the 27th. I ended up getting the hedder pipe too and it showed up a week ago. Found out today US call centers are more annoying than here.. No music.. Just adds for different postal services looped over and over :brick: had to hang up in the end.

Rant complete.

[Dave h]

Has it turned up yet? How many times have you clicked on the tracking link? :eek:

Nothing new to report with my one other than my garmin Montana hit the ejector button at 90kph on sunday because I never checked it was locked into the mount properly :facepalm:

[oneblackflag]

Has it turned up yet? How many times have you clicked on the tracking link? :eek:

Nothing new to report with my one other than my garmin Montana hit the ejector button at 90kph on sunday because I never checked it was locked into the mount properly :facepalm:


Turned up finaly on Tuesday :niceone:. Got all bolted on: header, pipe and programmer. Made the rookie mistake of combined shipping and had to pay out customs and the tax man :faceplam:. Leason learned.

I was pretty surprised with how much more lively she is now. I have a long gravel driveway and the back is spinning and fishtailing the whole way. Seems to rev out and accelerate alot quicker :headbang:.

Havent taken the AIS off yet or tweek the fulling from fmf's setting.

The Powercore 4 is loud oh so loud but sounds alot deeper and badass, probably will need the quiet insert for WOF purposes :devil2:.

Alass I wont be able to ride for a month, went for spinal surgery on Wednesday got out today, 3 months till i can work again.. :doctor:.

Overall if you have the cash and are so inclined its worthwile but probably only if you can get all 3 components.

Next on the list is the IMS 3.1 gallon tank.

Did the Garmin survive?

[oneblackflag]

Also might try a 13/45 gearing change from 13/43 stock since im doing most my k's on road. Have it at 12/45 on tracks maybe :scratch:

[Dave h]

I'll have a look into getting a pipe etc once the silly season has passed. The guy that raced his WRR in the 2012 Australasian Safari had the same combo as you from memory.

No the Garmin didn't survive :weep:

[oneblackflag]

291279

Nice to look at, can't wait to get back on her.

[Waihou Thumper]

Good for the long haul then if you look after them...:) AND has done nothing to it either mechanically.

[oneblackflag]

Awasome. It's more fun spending on farkels than repairs:yes:.



Good for the long haul then if you look after them...:) AND has done nothing to it either mechanically.

[oneblackflag]

Speaking of farkels.. Went on another spending spree tonight:laugh:.

3 gal IMS tank
Nomadic Cycle Racks, rear fender
Wolfman, peak tail bag

[dino3310]

so when you back riding mate

[oneblackflag]

so when you back riding mate


Hopefully by month's end... Thompson's should be ripe then aye Dino?

[dino3310]

Hopefully by month's end... Thompson's should be ripe then aye Dino?

yeah should be good up there now, dont think it will get much drier..... talked to a couple of young fellas who did it yesterday, was pretty muddy on the east but the got right through it:Punk:

[dino3310]

WR250f v 450f etc...
What period of riding, mileage, terrain etc dictates your oil change frequency?
I got the scoop on a good road legal WR450f....So....was wondering. As there is only about a litre in there, I guess the more the better right?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=669745036

heres a freebie http://www.yamahaownershandbook.com.au/lib/download.php?f=5TJ-28199-71.pdf

[Waihou Thumper]

heres a freebie http://www.yamahaownershandbook.com.au/lib/download.php?f=5TJ-28199-71.pdf

Thanks but will not need it now.

[oneblackflag]

Finaly got around to fitting the IMS 3Gal tank yesterday.

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2807/12685175784_3e80bfece6.jpg

Ordered a Black one, ended up with Neutral :facepalm::argh:. Anyway looks ok I think.

Where I have circled I've had to color in the tank blue with a marker because the farings dont quite cover it, and you end up with ugly/weird white bits shoing through; knew about this design flaw, thats why I really wanted the black tank. The coloring in did the trick and its not noticeable.

Now of to do some more remote exploring with the new range.

[oneblackflag]

What have you done with you're WRR lately?

Maybe the thread name should be changed to 'The WRR thread'? :wait:

[dino3310]

PM one of the Mods/administrators for a name change.... makes sense its the only WR dedicated thread

[oneblackflag]

PM one of the Mods/administrators for a name change.... makes sense its the only WR dedicated thread

Done :niceone:

[Dave h]

You'll be liking that extra range with the new tank aye :yes:

I've been running 13/47 on mine for a few weeks now, do like. Can't imagine any reason I'd go back to the stock gearing.
It's a bit busier at 100kph in 6th but not that bad and second gear is a lot more betterer now in tighter stuff when trail riding :woohoo:

Also lowered the rear suspension via the stock adjustment and dropped the triple clamps a tad. before I was on tip toes now I'm on the balls of my feet so all good.

How does everyone find the stock seat? I did 370 odd k's on Tuesday and was feeling it towards the end, so been thinking about getting a seat concepts seat or maybe
I just need to HTFU :violin:

[oneblackflag]

You'll be liking that extra range with the new tank aye :yes:

I've been running 13/47 on mine for a few weeks now, do like. Can't imagine any reason I'd go back to the stock gearing.
It's a bit busier at 100kph in 6th but not that bad and second gear is a lot more betterer now in tighter stuff when trail riding :woohoo:

Also lowered the rear suspension via the stock adjustment and dropped the triple clamps a tad. before I was on tip toes now I'm on the balls of my feet so all good.

How does everyone find the stock seat? I did 370 odd k's on Tuesday and was feeling it towards the end, so been thinking about getting a seat concepts seat or maybe
I just need to HTFU :violin:

Changing the gearing is on of the best mods I reckon. I went to 13 45 just to keep the same size chain, even that woke her up.

Extremely happy to have more range now:woohoo:

Yea anything over 300ks and I'm starting to stand whenever there is a chance. Might try some cycle shorts under my pants.... Be cheaper than a seat... Spent too much on the bike already :sweatdrop lucky the other half has no idea :argue:

What tyres are you running Dave?

[Dave h]

I'm running Vee Rubber knobs at the moment which are ok but I've found they don't last that long when you add commuting into the mix.

Got a set of Mitas E 09's that are going on next though.

[oneblackflag]

End up getting a new seat Dave? Ive been trying out bike pants... Makes it slightly more bearable..

Changed the gearing to 12/45 for a trail ride tomorrow, would be slightly lower than ur 13/47... Seems to go like a raped ape in the dirt now, power wheelies in 2nd and still gets over 100kph nicly.

Got the Piralli Mt21 on the front Mich AC 10 rear feels a good setup.

[pipe]

End up getting a new seat Dave? Ive been trying out bike pants... Makes it slightly more bearable..

Changed the gearing to 12/45 for a trail ride tomorrow, would be slightly lower than ur 13/47... Seems to go like a raped ape in the dirt now, power wheelies in 2nd and still gets over 100kph nicly.

Got the Piralli Mt21 on the front Mich AC 10 rear feels a good setup.

if u do more trail rides over winter the AC10 is not so good in the real muddy rides. I used them on a Brittens waikato rides then changed to Piralli Scorpion X(F/R) way better on and off road not a Dot rated tyre if that matters.

Have u done anything with your suspension?

[oneblackflag]

if u do more trail rides over winter the AC10 is not so good in the real muddy rides. I used them on a Brittens waikato rides then changed to Piralli Scorpion X(F/R) way better on and off road not a Dot rated tyre if that matters.

Have u done anything with your suspension?

Yea the AC10 is on its last legs will look into the scorpion.

Nothing done on suspension.. Think the soft front contributed to the broken spokes in the weekend.

[pipe]

Yea the AC10 is on its last legs will look into the scorpion.

Nothing done on suspension.. Think the soft front contributed to the broken spokes in the weekend.

Did wonder if that's was the case my WR tried to get me a few times before we did the suspension normally the lack of damping in the rear shock. Wayne at Blackwoods did both ends on my WR Completely different bike.

[JimmyC]

Considered Dunlop 606's? DOT rated, big knobby. Very happy with mine on and off road...

[oneblackflag]

Considered Dunlop 606's? DOT rated, big knobby. Very happy with mine on and off road...

Yea pricey though.

[oneblackflag]

if u do more trail rides over winter the AC10 is not so good in the real muddy rides. I used them on a Brittens waikato rides then changed to Piralli Scorpion X(F/R) way better on and off road not a Dot rated tyre if that matters.


Did you mean these?http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/products/326-pirelli_trail/2176-pirelli_scorpion_pro_fim.aspx Tried to get some last week but apparently being discontinued...

[pipe]

Did you mean these?http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/products/326-pirelli_trail/2176-pirelli_scorpion_pro_fim.aspx Tried to get some last week but apparently being discontinued...

More offroad then that.
http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/products/332-pirelli_off_road/3247-pirelli_scorpion_mx_extra.aspx

[oneblackflag]

More offroad then that.
http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/products/332-pirelli_off_road/3247-pirelli_scorpion_mx_extra.aspx

Ah I see. Could have them as a trail set... Really feel like a second wheel set, sick of changing tyres....

[oneblackflag]

Dunno the legality's of running non dot on road... Just thinking insurance wise.

[pipe]

Ah I see. Could have them as a trail set... Really feel like a second wheel set, sick of changing tyres....

depends on the riding u will be doing plenty of trail rides around.

[JimmyC]

Yea pricey though.

Get what you pay for ;)

[XF650]

Dunno the legality's of running non dot on road... Just thinking insurance wise.

Scorp front knobbly I have here is DOT - I think they used them on the Six Day bikes?

[oneblackflag]

Get what you pay for ;)

Thats true mate, A mate has them and loves em. I use a TCK80 front and Shinko 700 rear for adv (good wear), so just thinking of the others for trail only duties really.

[oneblackflag]

Scorp front knobbly I have here is DOT - I think they used them on the Six Day bikes?

Yea will be the one the bike shop told me was getting discontinued... could be wrong... looked bloody good.

[gwynfryn]

Whatever you get will be a compromise just as a trail bike is a compromise, thats why you don't see hardly any registered bikes at trail rides. Its just not worth the hassle.
If you want to ride(slow and steady) to a trail ride and ride all the sections then a Kenda 760 would be the most economical yet aggressive tyre for your wr.
Pirelli mt43 trials on the rear is another option but not so good on wet grass and mud.
Personally I think you can learn a lot and have fun riding a more trail bias tyre just let some pressure out but if you really have the off road bug then save for a bike/trailer/car.

[Dave h]

End up getting a new seat Dave? Ive been trying out bike pants... Makes it slightly more bearable..

Changed the gearing to 12/45 for a trail ride tomorrow, would be slightly lower than ur 13/47... Seems to go like a raped ape in the dirt now, power wheelies in 2nd and still gets over 100kph nicly.

Got the Piralli Mt21 on the front Mich AC 10 rear feels a good setup.

Hey mate no haven't got a new seat yet I'm about to fork over some coin for another mountain bike so a new seat will have to wait :)

How did your bike go on the trailride? Did I read in another thread that you binned it at some point :shutup: :)

[oneblackflag]

Hey mate no haven't got a new seat yet I'm about to fork over some coin for another mountain bike so a new seat will have to wait :)

How did your bike go on the trailride? Did I read in another thread that you binned it at some point :shutup: :)

Haha.... Yep that was me:stupid:

[calfinm]

Reading this threads inspired me to get my one out again as its been neglected lately.. Ive got an X (Supermoto version of R). It is a great little bike.

http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o335/calfinm/wr250x_zpsbe877b91.jpg

[oneblackflag]

Well fuck me it seems in a year the big bore kit has nearly doubled in price about $700 US :rolleyes:... Off my xmas list. From memory it was $4-500 and the exchange rate was much better.:no:

[That looks like fun]

Well bugger me! It stopped :shit:
My ever so faithful fun machine came to a grinding halt on Moa nui Rd (out back of Matawhai). Went round a corner and big flat spot, next corner, another flat spot. Nek minnut, a ruuurlly big flat spot, in fact a dead engine :gob:
Pulled the tank off, plenty of fuel in that, checked the spark, lots of that. It seemed to have every essential of life but no way would she go.
After about an hour of faffing about we decided to tow her to Matawhai while Al rode to Roto-Vegas for the rescue trailer :innocent: Phil towed me out with the Beemer (that is what tractors are for after all). After breakfast at Matawhai I sent the others on there way through the Motu and made a bed on the pavement to rest while I waited for Al. An awesome local gave me and the bike a ride down to Opotiki which surprised the buggers who had gone the long way ;)
After getting back to the Naki spent some more time trying to get noise from the exhaust before finally admitting defeat and taking her to the Dr's.
Took them a while to find the problem also. It turned out I had run out of petrol :facepalm:
Ok stop laughing ya mongrel's :angry2: Those who know my bike know I have the big Safari tank on her and you can see the fuel level inside :oi-grr:
When the tank was assembled the pick up hose's for the vacuum powered transfer pump had not been threaded through the holders inside the tank :blink: So apparently they can end up too high as a result of, say maybe falling off (not that I do that sort of thing :innocent:). The result being that no fuel gets to the injector pump and your bike stops :crybaby:
So anybody taking off your fuel tank for any reason I would recommend that while you have it off you drop the pump out and check it
:scooter:

[RGVforme]

Well bugger me! It stopped :shit:
My ever so faithful fun machine came to a grinding halt on Moa nui Rd (out back of Matawhai). Went round a corner and big flat spot, next corner, another flat spot. Nek minnut, a ruuurlly big flat spot, in fact a dead engine :gob:
Pulled the tank off, plenty of fuel in that, checked the spark, lots of that. It seemed to have every essential of life but no way would she go.
After about an hour of faffing about we decided to tow her to Matawhai while Al rode to Roto-Vegas for the rescue trailer :innocent: Phil towed me out with the Beemer (that is what tractors are for after all). After breakfast at Matawhai I sent the others on there way through the Motu and made a bed on the pavement to rest while I waited for Al. An awesome local gave me and the bike a ride down to Opotiki which surprised the buggers who had gone the long way ;)
After getting back to the Naki spent some more time trying to get noise from the exhaust before finally admitting defeat and taking her to the Dr's.
Took them a while to find the problem also. It turned out I had run out of petrol :facepalm:
Ok stop laughing ya mongrel's :angry2: Those who know my bike know I have the big Safari tank on her and you can see the fuel level inside :oi-grr:
When the tank was assembled the pick up hose's for the vacuum powered transfer pump had not been threaded through the holders inside the tank :blink: So apparently they can end up too high as a result of, say maybe falling off (not that I do that sort of thing :innocent:). The result being that no fuel gets to the injector pump and your bike stops :crybaby:
So anybody taking off your fuel tank for any reason I would recommend that while you have it off you drop the pump out and check it
:scooter:

Also known as the "Safari tank shuffle".....I have heard so many people in ADV circles caught out by this.

[Transalper]

Good to know, glad it wasn't really an issue with the bike itself.

[Addo007]

Let’s get this back to the top. Is there still plenty of these around? And has everyone with a 2008-2015 had the stator coil replaced under warranty? I only recently found out and about it and mine goes in this week for it.

[Addo007]

This is mine, a 2008

[That looks like fun]

And has everyone with a 2008-2015 had the stator coil replaced under warranty?

Had mine replace by Mach 1 Yamaha a year or 2 ago. Came back with the thread stripped on one of the bolts that held the tank on and the vacuum pipe left off the Safari Tank. Was suitably unimpressed. They knew they had stripped the thread as they had then tried to glue it in with Loc-Tite. It was a little bit disappointing.
However in fairness the business has now changed hands and the new owner seems like a good bugger.

By the way, your bike is far too clean :msn-wink:

[pomgolian]

Just a few farkles - engine is still standard thought I’d wait till the two year warranty is up later this year.

[testastretta]

My 2017 has no engine mods and not sure I will bother. Will add a 47 tooth rear sprocket when I put some more dirt worthy tyres on later in the year.

[That looks like fun]

Running a 14 52 combo on mine to try and keep the chain away from that front chain slider. I have found running the chain too loose is just as bad as running it too tight. On future long distance multi day rides I will be taking a spare slider with me. Included a pic of by far the best modification I have done to the bike so far :cool:

[Addo007]

Running a 14 52 combo on mine to try and keep the chain away from that front chain slider. I have found running the chain too loose is just as bad as running it too tight. On future long distance multi day rides I will be taking a spare slider with me. Included a pic of by far the best modification I have done to the bike so far :cool:

Two of the best mods from what I can see, looks like you have solved both the sore ass and the lack of range from the tiny standard tank. I’ve just fitted a rotopax tank and mount on the back. What tyres are you running?

I’ve geared it at 13/47 with a speedo drd healer. Seems to be geared ok for my use.

[Addo007]

Just a few farkles - engine is still standard thought I’d wait till the two year warranty is up later this year.

That is a fantastic photo, is that on the east coast? Full exhaust and fuel programmer transforms the bike, really lets it breath easier.

[That looks like fun]

Two of the best mods from what I can see, looks like you have solved both the sore ass and the lack of range from the tiny standard tank. I’ve just fitted a rotopax tank and mount on the back. What tyres are you running?

I’ve geared it at 13/47 with a speedo drd healer. Seems to be geared ok for my use.

Tyres? I am a bit of the "go with what's available" type of tyre guy. Been very happy with the AC 10's although the rear couldn't handle the South Island and chewed out in under 3000 ks.:angry:
Ran a Shinko on the rear for the rest of the trip and it did the business nicely :Punk: Got back into the North Island and that Shinko had to go :gob:

[pomgolian]

That is a fantastic photo, is that on the east coast? Full exhaust and fuel programmer transforms the bike, really lets it breath easier.

Love the WR I think riding a smaller bike harder is easier than riding a big bike slower, will look at more mods as time goes by.

Pic is up Mount Patriarch near Blenheim earlier this year.

[Addo007]

I'm looking at getting a sandman sprocket cover from the state's in order to run a 14 tooth front sprocket. They do what is called a freedom set which comes with a few other protection pieces, just Google them for more info. I emailed the guy and they are $75 usd plus $32 usd shipping. He said he can ship two sets for that price so if someone is keen let me know, I can get them sent to me and forward the second set on. That works out to be $91 usd with the combine shipping. About 132 nzd. Let me know in the next few days if anyone is interested.

[That looks like fun]

Totally recommend these. I have one on my bike. It lets all the mud and shite out from around the sprocket plus it looks cool. And looking cool is what's ruuurlly important. Any one want a lowering link for their WR? Fitted it, rode the bike round the South Island and decided I didn't really need it so its done approx. 6000 ks.
https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjTpODAipbbAhVMG5QKHQBsCOAQFggpMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.solomotoparts.com%2FML2-Racing-Yamalink-Lowering-Link-for-the-WR250R-X-08-14%2F&usg=AOvVaw0JuA7NGmejR1HALekO2V0I

[Transalper]

I know someone may be looking to lower a WR soon. Will point him here in case he is in the market.

Edit: nope, he's sorted already sorry.

[That looks like fun]

Its made of Aluminium so its not going rusty :shifty: Sooner or later someone will take it :bye:

[Addo007]

I'm looking at getting a sandman sprocket cover from the state's in order to run a 14 tooth front sprocket. They do what is called a freedom set which comes with a few other protection pieces, just Google them for more info. I emailed the guy and they are $75 usd plus $32 usd shipping. He said he can ship two sets for that price so if someone is keen let me know, I can get them sent to me and forward the second set on. That works out to be $91 usd with the combine shipping. About 132 nzd. Let me know in the next few days if anyone is interested.


A KB user has taken me up on the offer and covers are now ordered, cheers

[rok-the-boat]

I have been looking at WR250 bikes. here is a good link: http://www.bigdogadventures.com/WR250R.htm?fbclid=IwAR1JCBfpQJsEc9_w0S2-57T91_Yj_buub1zCSs92XKZRC9rtiw8diSQi_yE

[Dave h]

I have been looking at WR250 bikes. here is a good link: http://www.bigdogadventures.com/WR250R.htm?fbclid=IwAR1JCBfpQJsEc9_w0S2-57T91_Yj_buub1zCSs92XKZRC9rtiw8diSQi_yE

Good find, I remember reading about his adventures on adv back when I got my WRR

[Dave h]

Taking mine down South on Saturday, plan is Molesworth on sat then a couple of nights in Hanmer before heading back through Rainbow on Monday. Be my first trip on the ferry with a bike.

[banditrider]

Hmmm, this is an old thread. Anyone watch it anymore?

signed,

A new WR owner...

[Dumruat]

Hmmm, this is an old thread. Anyone watch it anymore?

signed,

A new WR owner...

Im a fellow new owner. Bought one in October . Finally got it to 500km . Have to catch up for a ride sometime
Cheers

[banditrider]

Im a fellow new owner. Bought one in October . Finally got it to 500km . Have to catch up for a ride sometime
Cheers

Had mine up in the 'naki over Xmas. Puttered around on the farm on it a little. Hoping to get it dirty before I go back to work.

[Muzz67]

Anyone got a larger tank to sell, or recommendations on brand and where to buy from? Cheers.

[banditrider]

I've got a spare standard one ;)

Just replaced mine with a Safari - not a cheap process. FYI, the IMS 18L is cheaper than the Safari 13.6L - talk to Bruno at Cycletreads. I ended up getting a reasonable deal on the Safari - thought the 18L was getting a bit over the top size/weight wise...

[husaberg]

Its made of Aluminium so its not going rusty :shifty: Sooner or later someone will take it :bye:

Do you still have the lowering link? my son has just brought a WR250R.