Kenya bombing

[Mo NZ]

"Somalia's Islamic extremist group al-Shabab claimed responsibility and said the attack was retribution for Kenyan forces' 2011 push into Somalia.
The rebels threatened more attacks.'

Shit this lot must be tough motherfuckers.

I say hunt every one of the motherfuckers down and exterminate them.
No mercy.

[Akzle]

I say hunt every one of the motherfuckers down and exterminate them.
No mercy.

yes. that's proven to work in the past...

//o. wait on...

[AllanB]

Sounds horrid but I've become immune to this shit from that side of the planet. It has gone on for centuries and will continue for another. Life appears very 'cheap' in some countries.

[R2D2]

I thought it was purely a shooting, the only bombs involved being grenades they threw?

[RDJ]

"Somalia's Islamic extremist group al-Shabab claimed responsibility and said the attack was retribution for Kenyan forces' 2011 push into Somalia.
The rebels threatened more attacks.'

Shit this lot must be tough motherfuckers.

I say hunt every one of the motherfuckers down and exterminate them.
No mercy.

Politely disagree with you on the extent of their toughness. How tough do they need to be to machine gun small children (at the time of writing, youngest known gunshot victim's age 2) and their mothers and fathers in a mall with not even mall cops on Segways to stop them?

Certainly we have reaped the whirlwind of having in the past said "why do they hate us, let us understand them while they kill us". Past time to go the full mediaeval crusader on them.

[mashman]

Somalia eh... haven't they relatively recently shifted to a democratic model of governance following a civil war?

[RDJ]

yes. that's proven to work in the past...

//o. wait on...

Actually it hasn't been proven to work in the past because it hasn't been tried in the past. We persist in trying to convince by words the present religious terrorists to not machine gun civilians, cut the heads ofd journalists, and blowup random passers-by. We certainly haven't taken the approach that is most like to be effective; which worked rather well not that many years ago with the National Socialist Workers Party and their Thousand Year Reich.

There should be no sanctuary and no quarter for people who murder deliberately, in cold blood, women and children, even checking their religion before they shoot them so as to spare those who know the name of their Prophet's mother.

Perhaps the way Gen Havelock followed up after 200 women and children were murdered in cold blood at the siege of Cawnpore, would reduce the risk of another Nairobi, another Mumbai...

[Berg]

Allah is good, Allah is peace.........yea, I call bullshit! More like Allah tells us to kill innocent women and children. My silly cousin married a Somali Muslim and he would be one of the biggest assholes in existence. Treats her like shit, the first born son like a god and their daughter like a piece of trash that he'd rather throw away. Him and his kind are not welcome in my house.......ever!

[Road kill]

Politely disagree with you on the extent of their toughness. How tough do they need to be to machine gun small children (at the time of writing, youngest known gunshot victim's age 2) and their mothers and fathers in a mall with not even mall cops on Segways to stop them?

Certainly we have reaped the whirlwind of having in the past said "why do they hate us, let us understand them while they kill us". Past time to go the full mediaeval crusader on them.

I think you might find that whites going "full crusade" on muslim people that until that time had done nothing to them is the very reason this shit is going on today.

They hate you because you are dirty murdering cunts that to this day still refuse to admit or face up to your own filthy history.

[RDJ]

I think you might find that whites going "full crusade" on muslim people that until that time had done nothing to them is the very reason this shit is going on today. They hate you because you are dirty murdering cunts that to this day still refuse to admit or face up to your own filthy history.

Well, the tone of your discourse does not suggest any debate with you would be fueled by reason. Nor indeed much else other than your sense of historical perpetual grievance.

In your terms, what some people did to some other people who you feel descended from, was wholly due to the ancestors of people now alive who you so describe in terms of genitals; said people should therefore pay for the assumed sins of their ancestors.

Since you're unlikely to change your mode of thought and expression, debate is conceded. Venom makes for bitter marinade.

[Mo NZ]

Modern Kenya was a new democracy driven country, with a great future and prospects.

Islamic extremist groups al-Shabab and the like seek nothing more than death to all who do not practice their values.
They are willing to travel and enter other countries to force their beliefs by actions that wound,maim and cause maximum death and destruction to whomever they locate.

There are many countries throughout the world where different religions cohabitate and live along side each other in relative harmony without these actions occurring with a Muslim beliefs.

Its these Islamic extremist groups al-Shabab and the like responsible for these actions in more than one country.
They do not want anything else but to force their beliefs on the people they encounter.

For evil to succeed all the good people have to do is nothing.

[Mo NZ]

Just in case you forgot, some more of the carnage inflicted.

Damage caused by the Jerusalem bulldozer attack on 2 July 2008
Indonesia 5 August 2000 – Christmas Eve 2000 Indonesia bombingskilling 18 [4]
Yemen 12 October 2000 – Attack on the USS Cole in the Yemeni port of Aden. 17 American sailors were killed, 39 injured.
Israel March 4, 2001 – 2001 Netanya bombing, Netanya. 3 dead
Israel May 18, 2001 – 2001 HaSharon Mall suicide bombing, Netanya. 5 dead
Israel June 1, 2001 – Dolphinarium discotheque suicide bombing, Tel Aviv. 21 dead
Israel August 9, 2001 – Sbarro restaurant suicide bombing, Jerusalem. 15 dead
Israel September 9, 2001 – Nahariya train station suicide bombing, Nahariya. 3 dead
United States 11 September 2001 – 4 planes hijacked by 19 al-Qaeda hijackers: two planes crashed into World Trade Center and one into the The Pentagon. Nearly 3000 dead.[5]
Israel November 29, 2001 – Pardes Hanna bus bombing, Israel. 3 dead
Israel December 1, 2001 – Ben Yehuda Street Bombing, Jerusalem. 11 dead
Israel December 2, 2001 – Haifa bus 16 suicide bombing, Haifa. 15 dead
India 13 December 2001 – Suicide attack on Indian parliament in New Delhi by Pakistan-based Islamist terrorist organizations, Jaish-E-Mohammad and Lashkar-e-Toiba. Aimed at eliminating the top leadership of India and causing anarchy in the country. 7 dead, 12 injured.
Israel January 25, 2002 – 2002 Tel Aviv outdoor mall bombing, Tel Aviv. 25 injured
Israel January 27, 2002 – 2002 Jaffa Street bombing, Jerusalem. 1 dead
Israel February 16, 2002 – Karnei Shomron Mall suicide bombing, Israel. 3 dead, 30 injured
Israel March 2, 2002 – Yeshivat Beit Yisrael massacre, Jerusalem. 11 dead
Israel March 9, 2002 – Café Moment bombing, Jerusalem. 11 dead
Israel March 20, 2002 – Umm al-Fahm bus bombing, Israel. 7 dead
Israel March 21, 2002 – King George Street bombing, Jerusalem. 3 dead
Israel March 27, 2002 – Suicide bomb attack on a Passover Seder in a Hotel in Netanya, Israel. 30 dead, 133 injured.
India 30 March 2002 and 24 November 2002 – Attacks on the Hindu Raghunath temple, India. Total 25 dead.
Israel March 29, 2002 – Kiryat HaYovel supermarket bombing, Jerusalem. 2 dead
Israel March 31, 2002 – Matza restaurant suicide bombing, Haifa. 15 dead
Israel April 10, 2002 – Yagur Junction bombing, Yagur. 8 dead
Israel April 12, 2002 – 2002 Mahane Yehuda Market bombing, Jerusalem. 6 dead
Israel May 7, 2002 – 2002 Rishon LeZion bombing, Rishon LeZion. 15 dead
Algeria May 7, 2002 – Bombing in al-Arbaa, Algeria. 49 dead, 117 injured.
Israel May 19, 2002 – Netanya Market bombing, Netanya. 3 dead
Israel May 23, 2002 – Pi Glilot bombing attempt, Tel Aviv. dead
Israel June 5, 2002 – Megiddo Junction bus bombing, Megiddo Junction. 17 dead
Israel June 11, 2002 – 2002 Herzliya shawarma restaurant bombing, Herzliya. 1 dead
Israel June 18, 2002 – Patt Junction Bus Bombing, Jerusalem. 19 dead
Israel June 19, 2002 – 2002 French Hill suicide bombing, Jerusalem by the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades. 7 dead, 35 injured.
Israel July 16, 2002 – 2002 Immanuel bus attack, Israel. 9 dead
Israel July 17, 2002 – Neve Shaanan Street bombing, Tel Aviv. 5 dead
Israel July 31, 2002 – Hebrew University bombing, Jerusalem. 9 dead
Israel August 4, 2002 – Meron Junction Bus 361 attack, Israel. 9 dead
Israel September 19, 2002 – Allenby Street bus bombing, Tel Aviv. 6 dead
India September 24, 2002 – Machine Gun attack on Hindu temple in Ahmedabad, India. 31 dead, 86 injured.[6][7]
Indonesia 12 October 2002 – Bombing in Bali nightclub. 202 killed, 300 injured.[8]
Israel October 21, 2002 – Karkur junction suicide bombing, Israel. 14 dead
Israel October 27, 2002 – Sonol gas station bombing, Ariel, West Bank. 3 dead
Russia 23 October 2002 – Moscow theater hostage crisis; Some 40 to 50 Islamist militant separatist seized a crowded Moscow theater taking 850 hostages. 170 killed, 700 injured.[9]
Israel November 21, 2002 – Kiryat Menachem bus bombing, Jerusalem. 11 dead
Israel January 5, 2003 – Tel Aviv central bus station massacre, Tel Aviv. 23 dead
Israel March 5, 2003 – Haifa bus 37 suicide bombing, Haifa. 17 dead
Israel April 30, 2003 – Mike's Place suicide bombing, Tel Aviv. 3 dead
Morocco May 16, 2003 – Casablanca Attacks – 4 simultaneous attacks in Casablanca killing 33 civilians (mostly Moroccans) carried by Salafia Jihadia.
Israel May 18, 2003 – 2003 French Hill suicide bombing, Jerusalem. 7 dead
Israel May 19, 2003 – Afula mall bombing, Afula. 3 dead
Israel June 11, 2003 – Davidka Square bus bombing, Jerusalem. 17 dead
Indonesia August 5, 2003 – 2003 Marriott Hotel bombing in Mega Kuningan, South Jakarta, Indonesia; suicide bomber detonated a car bomb outside the JW Marriott Jakarta lobby, killing 12 and injuring 150
Israel August 19, 2003 – Shmuel HaNavi bus bombing, Jerusalem. 23 dead
Israel September 9, 2003 – Tzrifin bus stop attack, Israel. 9 dead
Israel September 9, 2003 – Café Hillel bombing, Jerusalem. 7 dead
Israel October 4, 2003 – Maxim restaurant suicide bombing, Haifa. 21 dead
Israel December 25, 2003 – Geha Interchange bus stop bombing, Israel. 4 dead, 20 injured
Israel January 14, 2004 – 2004 Erez Crossing bombing, Gaza Strip. 4 dead
Israel January 29, 2004 – Gaza Street bus bombing, Jerusalem. 11 dead
Israel February 22, 2004 – Liberty Bell Park bus bombing, Jerusalem. 8 dead
Israel March 14, 2004 – 2004 Ashdod Port bombings, Port of Ashdod. 10 dead
Spain 11 March 2004 – Madrid train bombings. 191 killed, 1460 injured (alleged link to Al-Qaeda).
Israel August 31, 2004 – Beersheba bus bombings, Beersheba. 16 dead
Russia 1 September 2004 – Beslan school hostage crisis, approximately 344 civilians including 186 children killed.[10][11]
Indonesia 9 September 2004 – 2004 Australian Embassy bombing in Jakarta, Indonesia; suicide bomber exploded a one-tonne car bomb, which was packed into a small Daihatsu delivery van, outside the Australian embassy at Kuningan District, South Jakarta killing 9 and injuring over 150
Egypt October 7, 2004 – 2004 Sinai bombings, Sinai peninsula, Egypt. 34 dead
Israel November 1, 2004 – Carmel Market bombing, Tel Aviv. 3 dead
Netherlands 2 November 2004 – The murder of Theo van Gogh (film director) by Amsterdam-born jihadist Mohammed Bouyeri.[12]
Israel 13 January 2005 – Karni border crossing attack, Gaza Strip. 6 dead
Nigeria 4 February 2005 – Muslim terrorists attacked the Christian community in Demsa, Nigeria, killing 36 people, destroying property and displacing an additional 3000 people.
Israel 25 February 2005 – Stage Club bombing, Tel Aviv. 5 dead
India 5 July 2005 – Attack at the Hindu Ram temple at Ayodhya, India; one of the most holy sites of Hinduism. 6 dead.
United Kingdom 7 July 2005 – Multiple bombings in London Underground. 53 killed by four suicide bombers. Nearly 700 injured.
Israel July 12, 2005 – HaSharon Mall suicide bombing (July 12, 2005), Netanya. 5 dead
United Kingdom 21 July 2005 London bombings – Four attempted bomb attacks disrupted part of London's public transport system two weeks after the 7 July 2005 London bombings. The explosions occurred around midday at Shepherd's Bush, Warren Street and Oval stations on London Underground, and on a bus in Shoreditch. A fifth bomber dumped his device without attempting to set it off.[13]
Egypt 23 July 2005 – Bomb attacks at Sharm el-Sheikh, an Egyptian resort city, at least 64 people killed.
Indonesia 1 October 2005 – 2005 Bali bombings in Jimbaran & Kuta, Bali, Indonesia; a series of bombings kills at least 20 and injures over 100
Israel October 26, 2005 – Hadera Market bombing, Hadera. 7 dead
India 29 October 2005 – 29 October 2005 Delhi bombings, India. Over 60 killed and over 180 injured in a series of three attacks in crowded markets and a bus, just 2 days before the Diwali festival.[14]
Jordan 9 November 2005 – 2005 Amman bombings. a series of coordinated suicide attacks on hotels in Amman, Jordan. Over 60 killed and 115 injured.[15][16] Four attackers including a husband and wife team were involved.[17]
Israel December 5, 2005 – HaSharon Mall suicide bombing (December 5, 2005), Netanya. 5 dead
India 7 March 2006 – 2006 Varanasi bombings, India. A series of attacks in the Sankath Mochan Hanuman temple and Cantonment Railway Station in the Hindu holy city of Varanasi. 28 killed and over 100 injured.[18]
Israel March 30, 2006 – Kedumim bombing, Kedumim. 4 dead
Israel April 17, 2006 – 2006 Tel Aviv shawarma restaurant bombing, Tel Aviv. 11 dead, 68 injured
Canada 2–3 June 2006 – A series of attacks erupted against targets in Southern Ontario, Canada, and the June 2, 2006, counter-terrorism raids in and around the Greater Toronto Area that resulted in the arrest of 18 people (dubbed the "Toronto 18") found to be members of an Islamic terrorist cell. 18 Al-Qaeda members were behind this attack plot. They were trying to storm the Canadian Broadcasting Centre, the Canadian Parliament building, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) headquarters, and the parliamentary Peace Tower, to take hostages and to behead the Prime Minister and other leaders. No one was hurt
India 11 July 2006 – 2006 Mumbai train bombings, Mumbai, India; a series of seven bomb blasts that took place over a period of 11 minutes on the Suburban Railway in Mumbai. 209 killed and over 700 injured.
Germany 31 July 2006 – 2006 German train bombing plot was a failed attempt for bombing two regional trains in Germany.
Czech Republic 23 September 2006 – 2006 Prague terror plot – Islamist extremists were planning to take Jews captive in a Prague synagogue and then blow up the building, killing everybody inside.[19][20]
Israel January 29, 2007 – Eilat bakery bombing, Eilat. 3 dead
United Kingdom 1 February 2007 – The 2007 plot to behead a British Muslim soldier – A group of British Pakistanis in Birmingham, England planned to kidnap and behead a British Muslim soldier in order to undermine the morale of the British Army and inhibit recruitment of Muslims.[21]
Morocco March and April 2007 – 2007 Casablanca bombings, Casablanca, Morocco; seven suicide bombers killed one and injured four over a five-week period
Scotland 30 June 2007 – 2007 Glasgow International Airport attack, Glasgow, Scotland; A car loaded with propane canisters was driven into the glass doors of the Glasgow International Airport terminal and set ablaze. 1 killed and 5 injured.[22]
Iraq 14 August 2007 – Qahtaniya bombings: Four suicide vehicle bombers massacred nearly 800 members of northern Iraq's Yazidi sect in the deadliest Iraq war's attack to date.
Pakistan 23 December 2007 – The Tehreek-e-Nafaz-e-Shariate-Mohammadi (TNSM) claimed responsibility for a suicide bombing targeting a military convoy on behalf of the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan. The blast in the Mingora area of the Swat Valley killed five soldiers and six civilians.[23]
Pakistan 27 December 2007 – The Pakistani government implicated the network in the December 2007 assassination of Benazir Bhutto although the group denies the charge. The U.S. Central Intelligence Agency also confirmed its belief of Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan's involvement in January 2008.
Israel February 4, 2008 – 2008 Dimona suicide bombing, Dimona. 1 dead, 9 injured
Somalia 5 February 2008 – February 2008 Bosaso bombings by Al-Shabaab. 25 dead, 80 injured.
United Kingdom 2008 Exeter bombing – A failed attack which happened on 22 May 2008, at the Giraffe cafe and restaurant in Princesshay, Exeter, United Kingdom. Nicky Reilly, 22, a Muslim convert from Plymouth, pleaded guilty to launching a failed suicide attack on 15 October. The bomber was the only person injured.[24]
Israel 2 July 2008 – In the Jerusalem bulldozer attack, an Arab resident of east Jerusalem identified as Hussam Taysir Duwait (also referred to as Hussam Duwiyat,[25] Hossam Dawyyat,[26] or erroneously as Jabr Duwait[27]), attacked several cars on Jaffa Road in Jerusalem, Israel using a front-end loader (erroneously referred to as a bulldozer in the media[28]), killing three people and wounding at least thirty other pedestrians, before being shot to death.[25][29] Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev said that an inquiry indicated the attacker had been acting alone. 3 dead, 30+ injured.[30] Three copycat attacks have occurred since then.
India 26 July 2008 – 2008 Ahmedabad bombings, India. Islamic terrorists detonate at least 21 explosive devices in the heart of this industrial capital, leaving at least 56 dead and 200 injured. A Muslim group calling itself the Indian Mujahideen claims responsibility. Indian authorities believe that extremists with ties to Pakistan and/or Bangladesh are likely responsible and are intent on inciting communal violence.[31] Investigation by Indian police led to the eventual arrest of a number of terrorists suspected of carrying out the blasts, most of whom belong to a well-known terrorist group, The Students Islamic Movement of India.[32]
Somalia 3 August 2008 – The 2008 Mogadishu bombings in Somalia. 21+ dead, 46+ injured.
Pakistan 21 August 2008 – Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan spokesman Maulvi Umar claimed that the group was responsible for 21 August 2008 suicide bomb attack on a military complex.
Pakistan 23 August 2008 – Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan claimed responsibility for the 2008 Swat Valley bombing.
India 13 September 2008 – Bombing series in Delhi, India. Pakistani extremist groups plant bombs at several places including India Gate, out of which the ones at Karol Bagh, Connaught Place and Greater Kailash explode leaving around 30 people dead and 130 injured, followed by another attack two weeks later at the congested Mehrauli area, leaving 3 people dead.
Somalia 29 October 2008 – 2008 Hargeisa–Bosaso bombings by Al-Shabaab. 30 dead, 80 injured.
Pakistan 6 November 2008 – Someone using the name Abdur Rehman claimed that the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan was behind a 6 November 2008 suicide bombing that targeted tribal elders, who had gathered in the Bajaur tribal area to discuss efforts to coordinate with the government against the Pakistani Taliban. The blast took the lives of 16 and injured 31.[33]
Pakistan 13 November 2008 – The [[N:Taliban in Pakistan captures convoy bound for NATO troops|Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan intercepted a military convoy]] along the Khyber Pass bound for NATO troops in Afghanistan.
India 26 November 2008 – Muslim extremists kill at least 474 people and wound numerous others in a series of coordinated attacks on India's financial capital, Mumbai. The government of India blamed Pakistan based militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba and stated that the terrorists killed/caught were citizens of Pakistan, a claim which the Pakistani government first refused but then accepted when given proof. Ajmal Kasab, one of the terrorists, was caught alive.[34][35]
Pakistan March 3, 2009 2009 attack on the Sri Lanka national cricket team – A bus carrying Sri Lankan cricketers, part of a larger convoy, was fired upon by 12 gunmen, near the Gaddafi Stadium in Lahore, Pakistan.[36] The cricketers were on their way to play the third day of the second Test against the Pakistani cricket team. Six members of the Sri Lanka national cricket team were injured. Six Pakistani policemen and two civilians were killed.[30] These were the first attacks on a national sports team since the Munich massacre of Israeli athletes by Palestinian militants in 1972.[37][38]
Pakistan 30 March 2009 – In telephone interviews with news media Mehsud claimed responsibility for the 30 March 2009 attack on the police training academy in Lahore.[39][40] He told the BBC that the attack was in retaliation for continued missile strikes from American drones for which the Pakistani government shared responsibility. In the same interview Mehsud claimed two other attacks: a 25 March attack on an Islamabad police station and a 30 March suicide attack on a military convoy near Bannu.[39]
Pakistan 4 April 2009 – Mehsud claimed responsibility for the Binghamton shootings, stating that they were in retaliation for continued missile strikes from American drones. The FBI denied this claim and stated this was nothing to do with Massod[41]
Somalia 18 June 2009 – 2009 Beledweyne bombing by Al-Shabaab. 35 dead.
Indonesia 17 July 2009 – 2009 Marriott and Ritz-Carlton Hotels bombing in Mega Kuningan, South Jakarta, Indonesia; suicide bombers hit the Marriott and 5 minutes later the Ritz-Carlton. 9 killed and 53 injured
Pakistan 27 August 2009 – Azam Tariq, spokesman of the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan, claimed responsibility for a suicide bombing at a security checkpoint along the Pakistan-Afghan border near Torkham on 27 August 2009. Tariq said by telephone that the attack was the first in retaliation for the death of Baitullah Mehsud. Although the exact number of casualties was unknown, a doctor at a nearby hospital told Dawn News that they had received 22 bodies and local people working at the blast site said they had retrieved 13 bodies.[42]
Pakistan 5 October 2009 – Azam Tariq claimed responsibility for a suicide attack that killed five at the UN's World Food Programme Islamabad offices on 5 October 2009.[43]
Pakistan 12 October 2009 – The Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan, through Azam Tariq, claimed responsibility for the October 2009 attack on the army's headquarters at Rawalpindi. Tariq told the Associated Press that the attack was carried out by its "Punjabi faction" although the military insisted the attack originated in South Waziristan.[44]
Pakistan 15 October 2009 – The Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan claimed responsibility for three separate coordinated attacks in Lahore. 10 militants targeted buildings used by the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA), the Manawan Police Training School and the Elite Police Academy.[45]
Iraq 25 October 2009. Baghdad, Iraq. During a terrorist attack, two bomber vehicles detonated in the Green Zone, killing at least 155 people and injuring 520.
Pakistan 28 October 2009 – Peshawar, Pakistan. A car bomb is detonated in a woman exclusive shopping district, and over 110 killed and over 200 injured.
United States 5 November 2009 - Fort Hood shooting, at Fort Hood near Killeen, Texas.
Somalia 3 December 2009 – The 2009 Hotel Shamo bombing in Mogadishu, Somalia. A male suicide bomber disguised as a woman detonates in a hotel meeting hall. The hotel was hosting a graduation ceremony for local medical students when the blast went off. 25 dead – including four government ministers – and 60 injured.[46]
Pakistan 30 December 2009 – The Pakistani Taliban, as well as the Afghan Taliban, claimed responsibility for the 30 December 2009 attack on Camp Chapman, a base of operations for the CIA, inside Khost Province, Afghanistan. The Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan released a video of Hakimullah Mehsud sitting next to the suicide bomber, Humam Khalil Abu Mulal al-Balawi, a Jordanian national who had been working with the CIA. In the video, al-Balawi states that the attack is in retaliation for the killing of Baitullah Mehsud. Many analysts doubted that the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan acted alone.[47][48]

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Police investigating on the site a few hours after the 2011 Marrakech bombing
Pakistan 1 January 2010 – Lakki Marwat, Pakistan. A suicide car bomber drove his explosive-laden vehicle into a volleyball pitch as people gathered to watch a match, killing more than 100 people.[49]
India 14 February 2010 – 2010 Pune bombing, Pune, Maharashtra, India. bomb blast ripped through the city's popular German Bakery, close to the Osho Ashram and diagonally across from the Jewish Chabad House[50] killing 17 people and injuring 65.Maharashtra Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) claimed involvement of Pakistan based Lashkar-e-Taiba's (LeT).Police arrested Mirza Himayat Baig Inayat Baig,who allegedly heads Lashkar-e-Taiba's (LeT) module in the state.ATS has also arrested Bilal Baba Hussain Fareed Shaikh (27).In its chargesheet filed in a Pune court, the ATS has also named six other accused – all co-conspirator and absconding – Mohsin Choudhary, Yasin Bhatkal, Riyaz Bhatkal, Iqbal Bhatkal, Faiyaz Kagzi and Zabihuddin Ansari.[51]
United States 1 May 2010 – 2010 Times Square car bombing attempt, New York, New York, USA. Faisal Shahzad, an Islamic Pakistani American who received an American citizenship in December 2009, attempted to detonate a car bomb in Times Square working with the Pakistani Taliban or Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan.
Pakistan 28 May 2010 – Attacks on Ahmadi Mosques Lahore, Pakistan. Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan claimed attacks on two mosques simultaneously belonging to the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, killing nearly 100 and injuring many others.[50]
India 7 December 2010 – 2010 Varanasi bombing, India. 2 dead, 37 injured.
Egypt 1 January 2011 – Alexandria, Egypt. A car bomb exploded outside a Coptic Orthodox church after worshippers had gathered for a prayer celebration on New Year's Eve. 21 dead, 97 injured.[52]
Russia 24 January 2011 – Domodedovo International Airport, Moscow, Russia. A suicide bomb attack in the international arrivals hall of Domodedovo International Airport, Moscow killed at least 37 people and injured some 180.[53] Attacks were later attributed to the Caucasus Emirate an Islamist terrorist organisation.
Philippines 25 January 2011 – Manilla, Philippines. A bomb under a bus seat detonated on a passenger bus commuting in Manilla. 5 dead, 14 injured.[54] The attack has been attributed to the Islamist Terrorist Organization Jemaah Islamiyah.
Russia 26 January 2011 – Khasavyurt, Russia. A car bomb explosion detonated by the Caucasus Emirate an Islamist terrorist organisation ripped through a cafe, with the blast killing and injuring both cafe workers and customers within the Russian city of Khasavyurt. 4 dead, 6 injured.[55]
Germany 02 March 2011 – 2011 Frankfurt Airport shooting, Frankfurt, Germany. The 2011 Frankfurt Airport shooting occurred on 2 March 2011 at Frankfurt Airport in Germany. The shooter, Arid Uka, was arrested and charged with killing two United States airmen and seriously wounding two others. He was sentenced to life in prison on 10 February 2012. The shooting was the first deadly attack in Germany with an Islamist background.
Thailand 18 April 2011 – Pattani, Thailand. Suspected Muslim insurgents have set off a car bomb that killed one soldier and wounded 25 people in restive southern Thailand.[56]
Nigeria 25 April 2011 – Maiduguri, Nigeria. An explosion at a hotel killed 3 people and wounded 14 others in northeastern Nigeria. A second explosion went off at a cattle market in the town of Maiduguri; it is suspected that the attacks have been perpetrated by the radical Islamic sect Boko Haram (figuratively, "Western or non-Islamic education is a sin")[57]
Morocco 28 April 2011 – 2011 Marrakech bombing, Marrakesh, Morocco. A suicide bombing struck a cafe in Djemaa el Fna square, killing mostly foreigners and several Moroccan's, in the centre of Morocco's southern city of Marrakesh, which is located in southern Morocco. 16 dead and at least 20 injured.[58] The attack was attributed to the Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group.
Thailand 8 June 2011 – Narathiwat, Thailand. Suspected Islamic militants killed two Buddhist monks and left a bomb at the scene that subsequently exploded and wounded five police officers. 2 dead, 5 injured.[59]
China 18 July 2011 – 2011 Hotan attack, Hotan, China. A group of 18 young Uyghur men who opposed the local government's campaign against the full-face Islamic veil perpetrated a series of coordinated bomb and knife attacks and occupied a police station on Nuerbage Street, killing two security guards and taking eight hostages. The attackers yelled religious slogans, including ones associated with Jihadism.
China 30–31 July 2011 - 2011 Kashgar attacks, Kashgar, China. A series of busy markets and restaurants were attacked by the East Turkestan Islamic Movement in the city of Kashgar, by carbombs and stabbing attacks, killing 23 and wounding 42 people in total.[60]
Iraq 5 January 2012 Iraq bombings, Baghdad and Nasiriyah, Iraq by Islamic State of Iraq. 73 dead, 149 injured.
Iraq 14 January 2012 Basra bombing, Basra, Iraq. 53 dead, 130 injured.
Iraq 27 January 2012 Baghdad bombing, Baghdad, Iraq by Al-Qaeda in Iraq. 32 dead, 71 injured.
Iraq 27 January 2012. Baghdad, Iraq. Suicide bomber kills 33 at funeral procession.[61]
Iraq 23 February 2012 Iraq attacks, Baghdad, Iraq by Islamic State of Iraq. 83 dead, 250+ injured.
China 28 February 2012 - 2012 Yecheng attack, Yecheng, China. At around 6 p.m. on February 28, 2012, a group of eight Uyghur men led by religious extremist Abudukeremu Mamuti attacked pedestrians with axes and knives on a crowded street. Local police fought with Mamuti's group, ultimately killing all and capturing Mamuti. One police officer died and four police were injured, while 15 pedestrians died from Mamuti's assault and 14 more civilians were injured.[62]
Iraq 20 March 2012 Iraq attacks, Baghdad and at least 9 other cities, Iraq. 52 dead, ~ 250 injured.
France 20 March 2012 – 2012 Midi-Pyrénées shootings in Toulouse, France Algerian gunman on a motorcycle kills 4 at a Jewish school. 7 dead, 5 injured.
Nigeria 30 April 2012 – Gunmen of Boko Haram kill 15 people and wound many more in Nigeria.[63]
Mali 10 July 2012 - Timbuktu, Mali. Islamist militants of the Ansar Dine group destroy tombs of the Djingareyber mosque, a UNESCO World Heritage site.[64]
LibyaUnited States 11 September 2012 - On the anniversary of the 2001 September 11th attacks in the United States, Islamist militants killed 4 and wounded 7 in the Benghazi U.S. Consulate attack including American Ambassador Christopher Stevens.
Bangladesh 29–30 September 2012 Muslims Attack Buddhist Temples, Homes Over Quran Facebook Photo in Chittagong. The latest reports indicate that about 15 temples and pagodas and about 100 houses of Buddhists living in the area had been set on fire.[65][66]
Israel 21 November 2012 - Tel-Aviv, Israel. Bus explodes on Tel Aviv's Shaul Hamelech Street; 28 wounded, one seriously, one moderately.[67]
India 21 February 2013. Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh. A series of two bomb blasts in a crowded place killed 16 people and 119 were injured. There were two blasts on Thursday at 6.58 p.m. and 7.01 p.m. The bicycle had a bag hung to its carrier, which the police believe had an Improvised Explosive Device (IED).
United States 15 April 2013. Boston Marathon bombings. Two brothers, Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnev, planted two bombs near the finish line of the Boston Marathon. The blast killed 3 and injured 183 others.[68]
Pakistan 7 May 2013. Hangu, Pakistan. In a wave of pre-election sectarian violence a suicide attack, at a rally for a candidate of the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam, a pro-taliban religious party, killed at least 15 people and injured more than 40 including an election candidate.[69][70][71]
United Kingdom 22 May 2013 Two men with cleavers kill British soldier, Lee Rigby in London.[72][73]
Dagestan 25 May 2013 – Makhachkala, Dagestan. A female suicide bomber blew herself up in southern Russia's restive Dagestan, wounding 12 people.[74]
Iraq 25 May 2013 – Samarra, Iraq. A car bomb exploded near a bus killing six Iranians and one Iraqi. 14 others were wounded.[75]

If you bothered to cast your eyes down the list you will have seen this is spreading throughout the world.
Its like a cancer.

[Banditbandit]

Past time to go the full mediaeval crusader on them.

What ??? You mean eat them ?? I thought we were way passed cannibalsim ...

And to free which holy land? Tell me again .. which religion holds Kenya and Somalia to be "holy land"

Now - I do not particularly condone the actions of these terrorist groups .. but perhaps we should remember Abu Ghraib and the torture conducted there ..

Perhaps we shoud remember how many women and children have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan by American troops ??? Do the western powers really hold the moral high ground ??



Actually it hasn't been proven to work in the past because it hasn't been tried in the past. We persist in trying to convince by words the present religious terrorists to not machine gun civilians, cut the heads ofd journalists, and blowup random passers-by. We certainly haven't taken the approach that is most like to be effective; which worked rather well not that many years ago with the National Socialist Workers Party and their Thousand Year Reich.

How many terroists have been captured, killed, assassinated, how many are lock up in GitMo ??? How many died in the caves of Afghanistan ???


There should be no sanctuary and no quarter for people who murder deliberately, in cold blood, women and children,

Has there been quater gven? I see no evidence of it ... and does the asame apply to the invaders who kll women and children in these countries???




Perhaps the way Gen Havelock followed up after 200 women and children were murdered in cold blood at the siege of Cawnpore, would reduce the risk of another Nairobi, another Mumbai...

Unfortunately, and I am not trrying to justify this at all - every dead terroist is a martyr who inspires more of them .. killing them multiplies their numbers.

How about you look at the reaons why these people commit these attacks ... maybe there is another way of dealing with this ??? If you remove the reasosn for their anger and hatred then just maybe we wil be able to stop terrorist attacks ... maybe not the current crop of angry and disaffected people - but we might stop them breeding and multiplying ..

Simple justice will not work ..

[Paul in NZ]

I don't know - maybe its just me getting old and fearful but I have a very bad feeling about all of this..

This ongoing war by Islamic extremists has the potential to tear the world apart and burn the whole thing to cinders.

Sigh....

[SMOKEU]

"Somalia's Islamic extremist group al-Shabab claimed responsibility and said the attack was retribution for Kenyan forces' 2011 push into Somalia.
The rebels threatened more attacks.'

Shit this lot must be tough motherfuckers.

I say hunt every one of the motherfuckers down and exterminate them.
No mercy.

That group, al Shabab have quite a few videos online where they do beheadings with a knife and chop off hands and feet. They're just as fucked up as the rest of those stupid raghead niggers. Allahu snackbar.

[Oscar]

Just in case you forgot, some more of the carnage inflicted.

If you bothered to cast your eyes down the list you will have seen this is spreading throughout the world.
Its like a cancer.

Gee, that's terrible.
It's a good thing that Isreal and the USA didn't ramp things up by doing shit like shelling Gaza with phosperous shells, or using drones to kill wedding parties in Pakistan...oh, wait a minute...

[T.W.R]

Send the Poms in so they can do a second instalment of their Scorched Earth Policy that worked so well in South Africa during the Boer War :rolleyes: flatten everything, 150K+ in concentration camps and nearly 28K fatalities of women & children at the end of it all

[awa355]

I don't know - maybe its just me getting old and fearful but I have a very bad feeling about all of this..

This ongoing war by Islamic extremists has the potential to tear the world apart and burn the whole thing to cinders.

Sigh....

I have to agree with this outlook. In a few years most of northern Africa will be Islamic dominated. Also spreading through out SE Asia and east Europe to a far greater degree than they are now.

What amazes me is how so many idiots can get swept up in an idealogy that delivers little in the ways of humanity, compassion and tolerance to others.

[SMOKEU]

I have to agree with this outlook. In a few years most of northern Africa will be Islamic dominated. Also spreading through out SE Asia and east Europe to a far greater degree than they are now.

What amazes me is how so many idiots can get swept up in an idealogy that delivers little in the ways of humanity, compassion and tolerance to others.

It's a bit late for that - North Africa has already been plagued by these unwanted pests that further spread this infectious disease (jizzlam) further south, by the sword. Fucking pigs!

[Banditbandit]

It's a bit late for that - North Africa has already been plagued by these unwanted pests that further spread this infectious disease (jizzlam) further south, by the sword. Fucking pigs!

Oh my .. I seem to remember indigenous groups saying exactly the same thing about Christians ...

[RDJ]

So... the False Moral Equivalence Fairy visits again.

Even stipulating that one thing is the same as another - that was then this is now. Do y'all ever move on? Or is it good to massacre these days because there were massacres in history?

[Banditbandit]

Hang on .. when did I ever say it was good to massacre - let alone justify it by referencing historical events ???

I was suggesting that SmokeU's judgement of Islam mirrored indigenous judgement of Christianity ...

I had hoped we had moved on, but judgemental stances like SmokeU show that people have not moved on at all .. it's the same old shit century after century ...

[SMOKEU]

Oh my .. I seem to remember indigenous groups saying exactly the same thing about Christians ...

Yet Christians don't go around butchering people just because they believe in a slightly different version of the same extremist bullshit, or even not believing it at all.

I am aware of history regarding how violent the Christians were several hundred years ago, but we have moved on from those times and are more civilized today. Except for the extremist pigs.

[Banditbandit]

Yet Christians don't go around butchering people just because they believe in a slightly different version of the same extremist bullshit, or even not believing it at all.

I am aware of history regarding how violent the Christians were several hundred years ago, but we have moved on from those times and are more civilized today. Except for the extremist pigs.

And the same can be said for Islam ... moved on except for the extremists .. (Of which, I admit, there are a few .. just as there are extremist Christians)

[Oscar]

Yet Christians don't go around butchering people just because they believe in a slightly different version of the same extremist bullshit, or even not believing it at all.

.

Northern Ireland.
Bosnia.
Recent examples of extremist Christians killing people because they have a slightly diferent view of the great spirit in the sky..

One also wonders where the US would be, politically - if it were not for the Christian right.

[slowpoke]

What ??? You mean eat them ?? I thought we were way passed cannibalsim ...

And to free which holy land? Tell me again .. which religion holds Kenya and Somalia to be "holy land"

Now - I do not particularly condone the actions of these terrorist groups .. but perhaps we should remember Abu Ghraib and the torture conducted there ..

Perhaps we shoud remember how many women and children have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan by American troops ??? Do the western powers really hold the moral high ground ??




How many terroists have been captured, killed, assassinated, how many are lock up in GitMo ??? How many died in the caves of Afghanistan ???



Has there been quater gven? I see no evidence of it ... and does the asame apply to the invaders who kll women and children in these countries???





Unfortunately, and I am not trrying to justify this at all - every dead terroist is a martyr who inspires more of them .. killing them multiplies their numbers.

How about you look at the reaons why these people commit these attacks ... maybe there is another way of dealing with this ??? If you remove the reasosn for their anger and hatred then just maybe we wil be able to stop terrorist attacks ... maybe not the current crop of angry and disaffected people - but we might stop them breeding and multiplying ..

Simple justice will not work ..

Good post.

"We" seem to think ourselves as holding the higher ground yet from "their" perspective it must look so very different:

- There has never been a US President who declared themselves either Atheist or of an alternate faith, with nearly all US Presidents declare themselves as devout Christians.

- Current UK Prime Minister David Cameron is a practising member of the Church of England

- Previous UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown is the son of a Church of Scotland minister and member of the church himself. He gave a rallying speech for all religions to basically treat each other other as you'd like to be treated. Pity he gave it from St Pauls Cathedral which pretty much alienated most of the people he was talking to.

- Tony Blair was said by his political aide to regularly consult the bible when making important decisions, and by being George Dubya's finger puppet co-initiated the Afghanistan clusterfuck we will live with for the foreseeable future.

- Angela Merkel, Chancellor of Germany, her party is the Christian Democratic Party, and her father is/was a Pastor.

- John Howard, Kevin Rudd, Tony Abbot, Prime Minsiters of Australia are all devoutly Christian, with Abbott attending a theological college and considered becoming a priest.

- our own John Key professes to be agnostic....yet attends church.

So from the other side, the side who aren't welcome in "our" world (I work on an Australian offshore facility and the language regarding refugees/boat people is often "just shoot/sink the fuckers"). It's very much rich/greedy/Christian/white/democracy vs the rest and little wonder extremists go to, well, extremes. Our leaders, military, businesses, and actions have lit the fuse a thousand times over and it's just a matter of waiting for the explosions.

So yell "Exterminate! Exterminate!" like daleks all ya like but it does nothing to help the situation. Realistically it can't even be done, with extremists blending in with rest of the 99.999999% peaceful population, 99.999999% of the time. What are you going to do, shoot everyone? I reckon a few folks would probably say "Yes!".....but just who would "everyone" be? Everyone who doesn't look like you? Everyone in a certain place? Everyone who's not Christian?

As long as it's us vs them, as long as "we" prop up dictators, "we" remove democratically elected leaders, "we" clutch at more and more of the Earth's wealth, "we" put money before mankind, "we" pay more attention to footy scores than holding our leaders to account then we are just adding fuel to the fire.

I in no way shape or form condone any of "their" actions but I can understand why people would want to lash out. Lord knows (excuse the pun) enough people here want to lash out without experiencing even a single moments discomfort other than reading/watching a news report.

[SMOKEU]

And the same can be said for Islam ... moved on except for the extremists .. (Of which, I admit, there are a few .. just as there are extremist Christians)

Look at the scale of things. The media take to terrorism like a Catholic priest to a little boy - they're all over it. If Christians were blowing each other up, or beheading non believers, then why aren't these cases reported in the media? Every day there are new articles in the media about how some sand nigger blew up a mosque from an opposing sect, or how someone snackbared another jihadists head off, or whatever. If you go on certain websites that specialize in showing gore, then why is it that every day there are new fucked up videos about ragheads giving someone the chop or shooting them, yet Christian murder videos are very uncommon. Why?

Ever since the inception of jizzlam, their bullshit has been spread by the sword - not by peace and tolerance.


Northern Ireland.
Bosnia.
Recent examples of extremist Christians killing people because they have a slightly diferent view of the great spirit in the sky..

One also wonders where the US would be, politically - if it were not for the Christian right.

Those cases were not always religiously motivated, but more about political views than anything else. In the majority of white countries, there has been an increasing separation of church and state in the past 100 years. Many Islamic countries base their entire laws on Sharia, and that is the huge difference between them and us. Their whole pathetic, meaningless lives are ruled by their religion, and everything from the food that they eat to the clothes that they wear are heavily influenced by Islam. We often change our laws based on what the masses want, and on societal change. Islamic law doesn't change - what's in the Quran is what goes, and simply attempting to question it often results in receiving the chop. The most basic internationally recognized human rights are blatantly ignored, all because of their "religion".

In most Islamic countries, blasphemy is punishable by either lengthy terms of imprisonment or even death. Name me some Christian countries that still do that. To take the violence and hatred out of Islam is like taking the engine out of a motorbike; it's not longer really a motorbike. Normally I am quite tolerant about the religious beliefs of others, and I really don't give a fuck what anyone says on the matter, but the incredible brutality of Islam is completely unacceptable in this modern day and age.

[Banditbandit]

You're talking about theocracies that follow the Shari'a Law ..

Name them .. come on name the multitude of countries that are Islamic theocracies which enforce Shari'a Law ...

I'll give you a hint - Syria is NOT - Iraq was NOT - the Ba'arth party was secular/socialist - and it is still not .. Pakistan is NOT ... Libya under Gadaffi was NOT

So come on .. name these "many Islamic countries ... "


And Christian's bombing and killing ??? It's in the media al the time ... just it's not called Terrorism ... it's called War, or Police Action .. or 'merika being the world policeman ..

Don't care what it is called - it's Christians killing people ... and they are prolly better at it than any others .. lots of practice ..

[Trade_nancy]

As Egypt, Libya and Syria have recently found out - it isn't too important who is running the show - if there's enough of you - get rid of the leader and implement what you want. If they want what this article suggests - we're in it fairly deep.
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/08/21/319820/islamic-awakening-states-favor-shariah/

[Banditbandit]

I know that you are aware of this stuff .. but it's wiorth repeating ...

Here are the Rules of War as laid down by trhe prophet Mohammed inthe Koran ...

"O people! I charge you with ten rules; learn them well…for your guidance in the battlefield! Do not commit treachery, or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Neither kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man. Bring no harm to the trees, nor burn them with fire, especially those which are fruitful. Slay not any of the enemy's flock, save for your food. You are likely to pass by people who have devoted their lives to monastic services; leave them alone."


So - I would suggest that the terrorists - who are not following these rules - are not good Moslems .. they kill women, children and aged men for a start ...

[SMOKEU]

You're talking about theocracies that follow the Shari'a Law ..

Name them .. come on name the multitude of countries that are Islamic theocracies which enforce Shari'a Law ...

I'll give you a hint - Syria is NOT - Iraq was NOT - the Ba'arth party was secular/socialist - and it is still not .. Pakistan is NOT ... Libya under Gadaffi was NOT

So come on .. name these "many Islamic countries ... "


And Christian's bombing and killing ??? It's in the media al the time ... just it's not called Terrorism ... it's called War, or Police Action .. or 'merika being the world policeman ..

Don't care what it is called - it's Christians killing people ... and they are prolly better at it than any others .. lots of practice ..

Have a look here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_of_sharia_by_country) on Sharia law by country.

All this war, police etc action that you speak of is not due to result of Christianity. These are all politically related issues. Don't confuse the two.

Just have a read of this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_religious_police). With government sanctioned "police" forces going around enforcing Sharia law, it often turns into nothing more than a vigilante group bent on their interpretation of a book written well over 1,000 years ago that has no context in relation to the alleged "offence".

Show me proof of extreme modern day Christians blowing up innocent people and butchering up on a large scale IN THE NAME OF THEIR RELIGION, and then your argument may develop some credibility.

And then, there's shit like this...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHTsrraXYGc

[mashman]

Have a look here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_of_sharia_by_country) on Sharia law by country

White mans law... well, lack of it and much more indiscriminate i.e. your only crime is being.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFqyK8kB1Vk

[Banditbandit]

Have a look here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_of_sharia_by_country) on Sharia law by country.

THat shows that not even a majority of so called Moslem countries completely follow Shari'a Law


All this war, police etc action that you speak of is not due to result of Christianity. These are all politically related issues. Don't confuse the two.


It's you who are confused - Politics is about the exercise of power - Religion is just one way to exercise power ... ther distinction is only made by western people .. not by the rest of the world.



Just have a read of this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_religious_police). With government sanctioned "police" forces going around enforcing Sharia law, it often turns into nothing more than a vigilante group bent on their interpretation of a book written well over 1,000 years ago that has no context in relation to the alleged "offence".

I don't disagree ...


Show me proof of extreme modern day Christians blowing up innocent people and butchering up on a large scale IN THE NAME OF THEIR RELIGION, and then your argument may develop some credibility.


George W Bush declared the war in Afghanistan a "Christian Crusade" - fortunately the Pope and the Archibishop of Canterbury disagreed ...

http://www.acommonword.com/pope-benedict-archbishop-of-canterbury-cancel-george-bushs-crusade/


[/QUOTE]

[Swoop]

Al Shabaab have been operating for quite a long time and are nothing new. The addition of the Al Queda terrorists who have relocated to Africa, quite sensibly to avoid being dead in Afganistan, have upped the stakes.

23 September 2013: In Nairobi, Kenya the fighting with Somali al Shabaab gunmen in a mall continues. The government says that most hostages have been freed and that troops are closing in on the remaining terrorist gunmen. An Internet announcement said the terrorists in the mall were holding hostages, which they would kill if security forces continued attacking them. Last night the government said the mall was being cleared and would soon be safe. The hostages have been used as human shields, complicating army and police efforts to eliminate the terrorists inside the mall. Al Shabaab describes the mall attack, which has left nearly a hundred dead and 200 wounded, as retaliation for Kenyan peacekeepers coming into Somalia to fight the Islamic terror group.

The Kenyan government repeated promises that attacks like this will not lead to a withdrawal of Kenyan troops from southern Somali. What’s going on between Somalia and Kenya goes back a long time. The Somalis have been raiding what is now Kenya for centuries, and for once the Kenyans have the upper hand. They are not dissuaded by terror attacks. Al Shabaab believes that an attack of this magnitude would change that. So far the Kenyan reaction appears more anger than fear and that bodes ill for Somalis (citizens and refugees) living in Kenya.

Al Shabaab sponsored terror attacks in Kenya over the last few years has created a backlash against the Somali population there. There is growing tension between Kenyan Christians and Somalis. About ten percent (4 million) of Kenyans, mostly along the coast, are Moslems and most of these are ethnic Somalis. There has always been some Islamic radical activity among Kenyan Moslems, but the police have been particularly attentive to it after Kenyan Moslems were found to be involved in terrorist operations in the 1990s.

What the police have not done, however, is make much of a dent in the criminal infrastructure that supports smuggling, money laundering, a black market for guns, IDs and drugs and much else. The cops are often bought off, and the criminal gangs (especially the many Arab and Somali ones) provide support for terrorist operations in Somalia and Kenya. For example, a lot of the pirate ransom money ended up in Kenya, either for purchases of goods shipped to Somalia, or to be laundered and invested. Wealthy Somalis often find it prudent to go into exile, and Kenya is a popular place to retire to.

Then there are the overseas Somalis. Most of these are in Britain (300,000) and the United States (150,000). There are also half a million Somali refugees in northern Kenya and several hundred thousand more in places like Ethiopia and Yemen. Somali Islamic radicals often send their families into exile, to protect them, and some Islamic radicals have themselves gone into exile. There, Somali men, usually young (teenager to early 20s), are recruited and sent back to Somali for more indoctrination and training. Some are killed there, and some return to the U.S. and Britain to help with recruiting and, it is feared, to carry out terrorist attacks. This Western source of recruits has been largely shut down but Somalis outside Somalia continue to be a source of radicalized recruits for al Shabaab and cash for terrorist organizations.

The Somali Islamic radicals have long been recruiting from among Kenya's Moslem population. This recruiting has slowed in the last year, because of the many defeats al Shabaab has suffered recently in Somalia. But many radicalized young Somalis are still living among the refugees and Moslem populations of Kenya. Police attempts to find and arrest Islamic radicals are often clumsy and result in innocents being rounded up or killed. This just creates more anger in the Moslem neighbourhoods. The mall murders are expected to increase the police pressure on Kenyan Somalis. Many al Shabaab believe that this might trigger a Moslem uprising in Kenya and lead to a combined Somali-Kenyan Islamic state. This is pure fantasy but it’s the sort of thing Islamic terrorism thrives on. The mall attack and continued terror attacks in Somalia appear to be al Shabaab’s way of remaining in the news. A group like al Shabaab survives only as long as it can attract new recruits and cash donations. Western governments are trying to cut off the flow of cash to al Shabaab, and that is having some impact. But the fanatical puritanism and righteousness of Islamic terror groups still appeals to some young Moslem men, who see little future for themselves. Most Moslem societies have major problems with providing education and curbing corruption. This combination discourages foreign investment and economic growth. The Islamic radical solution is a mirage, but to the young, unemployed, uneducated and violence prone it resonates.

It is believed that al Shabaab attacked this particular mall because it is popular with foreigners and wealthy Kenyans. Many Moslems work or shop there and some are believed to have died despite al Shabaab efforts to spare Moslems. Al Shabaab also made much of the fact that some of the mall owners are Israeli and Israel has been helping Kenya with intelligence and expert advice that has been useful in the fight against Islamic terrorists.
In Mogadishu two years of increasing security has attracted more foreigners (diplomats, aid agencies and entrepreneurs) and that has sent real estate values increasing by a factor of ten or more. This has forced out many long-term renters and led to corrupt officials assisting in the theft of some properties. This is usually done using false ownership documents obtained by bribing a government official and then bribing police to assist in the eviction. Court officials are then bribed to make the theft stick. This is causing a long of anger in the city. In addition the government is forcing over a hundred thousand refugees from areas outside the city.

21 September 2013: In Nairobi, Kenya some 15 al Shabaab gunmen stormed into an upscale mall and began killing people. Those who could prove they were Moslem were spared but all others were killed. Automatic weapons and grenades were used and by the end of the day 59 were confirmed dead and over 200 wounded. Many of the casualties were women and children. Soldiers and police responded quickly and drove the attackers into a single location where the gunmen kept shooting and said they had hostages. Israeli counter-terrorism experts who were in Kenya quickly went to the mall to assist the security forces. Israel offered additional help.
Al Shabaab had its twitter account shut down again for violating Twitter terms of service by announcing the Nairobi attack and taking credit for it. Al Shabaab had that account shut down on September 6th for more Terms of Service violations but the terrorist group started a new account on September 10th. Last February al Shabaab began using a new Twitter account and criticized Twitter for shutting down al Shabaab’s original (since 2011) account on January 20 because the Islamic terrorists had used Twitter to make specific threats against several people on January 16th. This is not allowed by the Twitter terms of service. The al Shabaab account had over 20,000 followers.

16 September 2013: Some 30 kilometres north of Mogadishu peacekeepers and Somali troops forced al Shabaab out of Mahadeey. The town is one of dozens of small places still held by al Shabaab gunmen. Al Shabaab rarely fights to hold onto these places anymore and flees at the approach of troops. The al Shabaab men will find some other place to set up shop. If cornered, groups like this will often fight to the death.
Uganda has ordered 24 of its peacekeepers to return home tomorrow and face charges of corruption. Those recalled include some officers, one them was the general commanding the Ugandan peacekeepers, whose next job was to be the military attaché at the Ugandan embassy in Kenya. The soldiers were caught stealing supplies meant for Ugandan peacekeepers and selling the food and fuel on the black market. Some junior officers reported suspicions that some of their superiors in Somalia were involved. The Ugandan troops had been complaining of shortages and the government quietly conducted an investigation.

14 September 2013: Al Shabaab fired on a peacekeeper base outside Marka (70 kilometres south of Mogadishu) and apparently set off a bomb inside the town. Although AU peacekeepers and Somali troops drove al Shabaab gunmen out of the port town of Marka a year ago, there are still armed al Shabaab operating in the area. This town has long served as a base for al Shabaab terrorists carrying out attacks in Mogadishu.

13 September 2013: In Kismayo, some al Shabaab gunmen attacked a military base. No casualties were reported but there were believed to be dead and wounded on both sides.

12 September 2013: In Kismayo a car bomb exploded near the convoy of Ahmed Mohamed Islam (the senior government official in the southern region now called Jubbaland). Several civilians were killed but the intended target was unharmed. It’s not known if the attack was carried out by al Shabaab or local political rivals of Ahmed Mohamed Islam.
In the south (Al Baate) an American (Omar Shafik Hammami) member of al Shabaab was killed in a shootout with other al Shabaab members. Hammami has been with al Shabaab since 2006 and handled Internet propaganda for the terrorist group. Last year he was condemned to death by al Shabaab leaders who objected to Hammami accusing them of corruption. Six months ago the U.S. announced a $5 million reward for help in capturing Hammami, who has been hiding out in Somalia, apparently unable to get out of the country. Islamic terrorists with a large price on their heads and condemned to death by their fellow terrorists have limited options when it comes to finding sanctuary. There were many other Islamic terrorists, including some al Shabaab members, who supported Hammami. Apparently two of these allies died with Hammami. Some terrorist groups criticized al Shabaab for killing Hammami rather than clearing up the corruption charges.

11 September 2013: Near the Ethiopian border (Hiran, central Somalia) al Shabaab executed two of its own men, one for spying and the other for armed robbery.

9 September 2013: In Mogadishu al Shabaab fired mortars at a residential areas and an army base. There were no casualties.

8 September 2013: In Mogadishu al Shabaab used a roadside bomb to attack a military convoy, but only managed to damage one vehicle.

7 September 2013: In Mogadishu al Shabaab set off two bombs in a parking lot, killing 18 people.

3 September 2013: Outside Mogadishu al Shabaab used a roadside bomb to attack a convoy carrying the president. The target was unharmed.

[RDJ]

Islam's bodycount: high and rising. > 21,000 attacks by Islamic terrorists since 9/11. How many deaths? well, in 2008 they killed 165 in Mumbai; in 2004 they killed 190 at Atocha Station; between 70 and 80 have died so far in the Nairobi and Peshawar attacks just the last couple of days - all part of the 21,000 attacks.

[SMOKEU]

THat shows that not even a majority of so called Moslem countries completely follow Shari'a Law



It's you who are confused - Politics is about the exercise of power - Religion is just one way to exercise power ... ther distinction is only made by western people .. not by the rest of the world.




I don't disagree ...




George W Bush declared the war in Afghanistan a "Christian Crusade" - fortunately the Pope and the Archibishop of Canterbury disagreed ...

http://www.acommonword.com/pope-benedict-archbishop-of-canterbury-cancel-george-bushs-crusade/


[/QUOTE]

So where are all these beheadings and stonings done by Christians because they feel that everyone should believe what they believe? If it's all about Christians wanting to attack snackbarists, then why hasn't the USA launched a war on Indonesia, the world's largest Muslim country?

These terrorists are killing one another with epic proportions in the continued sectarian war. If they're fucked up enough to do that sort of shit to their own people, then what makes you think it's Christians to blame? Why aren't Christians still beheading one another, if they're that bad? Why are there daily terrorist bombings in snackbaristan, but not in any non Muslim countries? I suggest you go on www.bestgore.com, www.theync.com and www.liveleak.com and watch what sick shit they do to each other. Open your eyes to what is really going on, instead of being so ignorant.

[Oscar]

Islam's bodycount: high and rising. > 21,000 attacks by Islamic terrorists since 9/11. How many deaths? well, in 2008 they killed 165 in Mumbai; in 2004 they killed 190 at Atocha Station; between 70 and 80 have died so far in the Nairobi and Peshawar attacks just the last couple of days - all part of the 21,000 attacks.

How many were killed by the US/UK in Iraq and Afganistan since 2001?
How many Palestinians killed by the IDF since 1967.

These things may not seem related to the west, but from a Muslim point of view, it's all part of a continuing attack on them by the west.

[SMOKEU]

How many were killed by the US/UK in Iraq and Afganistan since 2001?
How many Palestinians killed by the IDF since 1967.

These things may not seem related to the west, but from a Muslim point of view, it's all part of a continuing attack on them by the west.

Well someone had to intervene to stop them from murdering innocent civilians by the tens of thousands.

[Oscar]

Well someone had to intervene to stop them from murdering innocent civilians by the tens of thousands.

Them?
Who's them?

The US invasion og Iraq killed tens of thousands of civillians.
Israel shelled residential parts of Gaza with white phosepherous killing women and children.
Were these innocent civilians not worthy of life because they were Muslim?

[SMOKEU]

Them?
Who's them?

The US invasion og Iraq killed tens of thousands of civillians.
Israel shelled residential parts of Gaza with white phosepherous killing women and children.
Were these innocent civilians not worthy of life because they were Muslim?

Them = snackbarists

The US are the good guys. I'm sure that the innocent civilian deaths were accidental, and certainly pales in comparison to the number of civilian murders carried out by jihadists.

[Oscar]

Them = snackbarists

The US are the good guys. I'm sure that the innocent civilian deaths were accidental, and certainly pales in comparison to the number of civilian murders carried out by jihadists.

:lol::lol::lol:
The US are the good guys - you're funny.
They are very good at efficient methods of killing.
Those mofo's have killed more people in Iraq than Al Queda could kill in 100 years...

[avgas]

How many were killed by the US/UK in Iraq and Afganistan since 2001?
Iraq - 500,000
Afghanistan - 350,000

Or at least that is the last figure I heard (about 2 years ago), its probably gone up since then.\

Makes 21,000 seem like piss in the ocean doesn't it?

[Oscar]

Iraq - 500,000
Afghanistan - 350,000

Or at least that is the last figure I heard (about 2 years ago), its probably gone up since then.\

Makes 21,000 seem like piss in the ocean doesn't it?

Oh yes.

The next comment will be something like "but they started it", which is a gordian knot in itself.
A lot of septics think that 9/11 came out of a clear blue sky...

[Banditbandit]

These terrorists are killing one another with epic proportions in the continued sectarian war.

I am anything but ignorant about what is going on .. I am, blown away that you seem to care about people in these countries ... Yes, they are killing each other ... been doing it for hundreds of years ... it's a total clusterfuck ... why should we get involved? It just pisses them off even more ...


Well someone had to intervene to stop them from murdering innocent civilians by the tens of thousands.

Why ??? Who appointed you judge and executioner of those peple ..

They probably say the same thing about us "Someone should stop them ..." but when they try we get angry and blow the shit out of them .. (but yes, whi is "them" ?)

You position is completely inconsistent and not well thought out - and it's a complete fuck up and we should stay out of it ..

[avgas]

Oh yes.
The next comment will be something like "but they started it", which is a gordian knot in itself.
A lot of septics think that 9/11 came out of a clear blue sky...
Morpheus: We don't know who struck first, us or them. But we do know it was us that scorched the sky. At the time, they were dependent on solar power. It was believed they would be unable to survive without an energy source as abundant as the sun.

[jasonu]

Niggers behaving like niggers is all.

[Banditbandit]

Niggers behaving like niggers is all.

People behaving like people you racist arsehole !!!

[slowpoke]

Niggers behaving like niggers is all.

Congratulations you've just perfectly validated the terrorist's actions. Welcome to the land of "ignore".

[SPman]

Iraq - 500,000
Afghanistan - 350,000

Or at least that is the last figure I heard (about 2 years ago), its probably gone up since then.\

Makes 21,000 seem like piss in the ocean doesn't it?

Add - Pakistan & Yemen, (Lots of drone activity with attendant "collateral damage/cock-ups there)

[300weatherby]

Politely disagree with you on the extent of their toughness. How tough do they need to be to machine gun small children (at the time of writing, youngest known gunshot victim's age 2) and their mothers and fathers in a mall with not even mall cops on Segways to stop them?

Certainly we have reaped the whirlwind of having in the past said "why do they hate us, let us understand them while they kill us". Past time to go the full mediaeval crusader on them.

Big white flash, problem solved permanently. Cost effective. No need to understand third world animals, just kill em all and solve the problem. Same for Afghan and co.

[jasonu]

People behaving like people you racist arsehole !!!

Not people mate. Sub humans at best.

[Road kill]

Not people mate. Sub humans at best.

Haven't seen the news have you ?

One of the groups leaders would seem to be a white British woman.

Guess she just likes the black cock huh.:killingme

[unstuck]

Sub humans at best.

Great choice.:Punk::Punk:

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[RDJ]

Congratulations you've just perfectly validated the terrorist's actions. Welcome to the land of "ignore".

Um, since when is racist rhetoric (nasty name-calling) equivalent to bombing and gunning down civilian shoppers in the name of religion? Neither of these things is civilized but they are not equivalent. Freedom of speech is also freedom to be stupidly racist.

[SPman]

Big white flash, problem solved permanently. Cost effective. No need to understand third world animals, just kill em all and solve the problem. Same for Afghan and co.
Hmmmm - same thoughts, no doubt, as most fundamentalists, Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Jewish, Buddhist (yes - there are fundamentalist Buddhists who are not averse to killing "others") etc etc would put out..........

One of the nicest, gentlest, most decent and funniest people we know is a devout Muslim - and Iranian, shock horror!

[SMOKEU]

I am anything but ignorant about what is going on .. I am, blown away that you seem to care about people in these countries ... Yes, they are killing each other ... been doing it for hundreds of years ... it's a total clusterfuck ... why should we get involved? It just pisses them off even more ...



Why ??? Who appointed you judge and executioner of those peple ..

They probably say the same thing about us "Someone should stop them ..." but when they try we get angry and blow the shit out of them .. (but yes, whi is "them" ?)

You position is completely inconsistent and not well thought out - and it's a complete fuck up and we should stay out of it ..

Why should we stay out of it? Because these people are flooding into white countries and bringing their extremist ideology with them. I don't want to be out walking my dog and then find some severed limbs or heads in the local park, or to find a bunch of them snackbaring about whatever.


Niggers behaving like niggers is all.

+1 to that. WPWW.


Congratulations you've just perfectly validated the terrorist's actions. Welcome to the land of "ignore".

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[Banditbandit]

Why should we stay out of it? Because these people are flooding into white countries and bringing their extremist ideology with them. I don't want to be out walking my dog and then find some severed limbs or heads in the local park, or to find a bunch of them snackbaring about whatever.


Fuck me .. have you been into the stash jar again ??? You're suffering from short term memory loss

You said they were killing each other in their thousands .. and I said stay out of it ... Hold the thread of a conversation for a while can't ya .. it's not hard especfially as you can go back and read what you wrote !!!


It's a different matter if they come here ... come here and I'll happily shoot them here ... but not go there and shoot them ..

[Banditbandit]

Niggers behaving like niggers is all.






+1 to that. WPWW.




And white trash being white trash .. one living in the largest theme park in the world and the other a refugee from Boerland .. ..

[SMOKEU]

Fuck me .. have you been into the stash jar again ??? You're suffering from short term memory loss

You said they were killing each other in their thousands .. and I said stay out of it ... Hold the thread of a conversation for a while can't ya .. it's not hard especfially as you can go back and read what you wrote !!!


It's a different matter if they come here ... come here and I'll happily shoot them here ... but not go there and shoot them ..

I've been clear in what I've said.


And white trash being white trash .. one living in the largest theme park in the world and the other a refugee from Boerland .. ..

lol!

[unstuck]

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[300weatherby]

And white trash being white trash .. one living in the largest theme park in the world and the other a refugee from Boerland .. ..

Oi ! Trashy isn't even here yet,leave him alone!:innocent:

[Brett]

I think you might find that whites going "full crusade" on muslim people that until that time had done nothing to them is the very reason this shit is going on today.

They hate you because you are dirty murdering cunts that to this day still refuse to admit or face up to your own filthy history.

Do a bit of research and then come back here with that shit. Don't want to go too far back, start with the Ottoman empire and then work forward, you might be surprised. The fact is that in many nations, followers of Islam have become increasingly militant towards those they consider Infidels. If you're not a believer, you're lower than a dog and likely to be treated so. A gross generalisation of course as there are many peaceful Muslim's but you have to have blinkers on not to realise their growing militance towards the west.

[Winston001]

Well shag, late to this party. :eek5:

Too much too many posts to reply to.

Al-Shabaab are a Somali-based Islamic organisation. They are nasty vicious bandits who are feared and hated in Somlia and Kenya.

In our liberal way we sometimes view Islamic extremists as pure religionists driven by their honest belief that the world would be a better place if it was returned to the First Caliphate of the 9th century.

Yes, there are some idealistic young men who live and breathe this aim but many more are simply robbers who want wealth and power. Islamic fundamentalism has become a useful cover for simple brutality.

So far as I can tell these criminals are a minority in Islamic societies but murder is appalling and draws fame and notoriety to them. So they do it cos it works.

The tragic thing about Islam is the violence is mostly against each other. If you look at terrorists events around the world, it is in Islamic countries.

As-salam alaykum

[jasonu]

And white trash being white trash .. one living in the largest theme park in the world and the other a refugee from Boerland .. ..

Have you actually visited either of those two countries? (a week at Disneyland doesn't count)

[avgas]

Tis a shame we need an excuse like religion to call people dicks. It is blazingly obvious to me reading through this thread that arseholes are everywhere.

This is why I have no faith in Christians or Muslims as people. Because if it has the ability to override their natural human instincts to care for others they are not people they are religious machines.

Just remember folks, hate crimes create hate crimes. You're writing your own self-fulfilling prophecies.

[SMOKEU]

Do a bit of research and then come back here with that shit. Don't want to go too far back, start with the Ottoman empire and then work forward, you might be surprised. The fact is that in many nations, followers of Islam have become increasingly militant towards those they consider Infidels. If you're not a believer, you're lower than a dog and likely to be treated so. A gross generalisation of course as there are many peaceful Muslim's but you have to have blinkers on not to realise their growing militance towards the west.

+1. Almost everything we do in our lives, from the clothes that we wear, to the food that we eat is completely un-Islamic.


Well shag, late to this party. :eek5:

Too much too many posts to reply to.

Al-Shabaab are a Somali-based Islamic organisation. They are nasty vicious bandits who are feared and hated in Somlia and Kenya.

In our liberal way we sometimes view Islamic extremists as pure religionists driven by their honest belief that the world would be a better place if it was returned to the First Caliphate of the 9th century.

Yes, there are some idealistic young men who live and breathe this aim but many more are simply robbers who want wealth and power. Islamic fundamentalism has become a useful cover for simple brutality.

So far as I can tell these criminals are a minority in Islamic societies but murder is appalling and draws fame and notoriety to them. So they do it cos it works.

The tragic thing about Islam is the violence is mostly against each other. If you look at terrorists events around the world, it is in Islamic countries.

As-salam alaykum

Just remember that the videos don't lie.

[Road kill]

+1. Almost everything we do in our lives, from the clothes that we wear, to the food that we eat is completely un-Islamic.



Just remember that the videos don't lie.

Try to keep in mind that most Kiwi's see "you" are being the blow in that has come to our country with
"your" extremist views that are not a part of "our" culture.

So how about you fuck off you two faced piece of shit.

Now run off to the mods an tell on me,,,go on you know you want to,,,shit head.

[SMOKEU]

Try to keep in mind that most Kiwi's see "you" are being the blow in that has come to our country with
"your" extremist views that are not a part of "our" culture.

So how about you fuck off you two faced piece of shit.

Now run off to the mods an tell on me,,,go on you know you want to,,,shit head.

I didn't come to NZ and bring my racist, intolerant and extremist beliefs with me. What exactly is it that you're referring to?

If you think I'm bad, then you obviously haven't seen how sharia law treats fags and non believers.

[jasonu]

And white trash being white trash .. one living in the largest theme park in the world and the other a refugee from Boerland .. ..


Have you actually visited either of those two countries? (a week at Disneyland doesn't count)

That's what I thought.

[Akzle]

Muslim's but you have to have blinkers on not to realise their growing militance towards the west.
yeah, you're right.a milleania old civilisation should just bow down to the consumeristic western jew way, then we'd all just get along...

it's the arrogance that presupposes "west is best", that fucks people off ALL OVER THE PLACE.


Al-Shabaab are a Somali-based Islamic organisation. They are nasty vicious bandits who are feared and hated in Somlia and Kenya.

...

So far as I can tell these criminals are a minority in Islamic societies but murder is appalling and draws fame and notoriety to them. So they do it cos it works.
i think somalians have a reputation, ahead of/asides from islam, for violence and irrationality.
it's just that "al-quaeda" (sp?) is a great headline and white cunts in teh west are emotionally attached to it. it's a brand (largely created by jew-media) that sounds like the CIA know more than when you just say "terrorist".

as far as notoriety for murder, yeah, sort of, but that any western murder (the daily in new york) goes largely uncared about, certainly militant action (state sanctioned murder) by the us (done under the flag of.... err, not-islam) goes either unreported, or cheered.

I didn't come to NZ and bring my racist, intolerant and extremist beliefs with me. What exactly is it that you're referring to?

If you think I'm bad, then you obviously haven't seen how sharia law treats fags and non believers.

i doubt little ole white christchurch gave you your extreme racism.

a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. you certainly have a very, very, little bit.

for someone who watches bestgore, for fun, you have a lot of opinions that normal people deem irrelevant.
forming your world view, based on it... i've said it before. highly misguided.

[avgas]

Just remember that the videos don't lie.
Who were you in District 9?

[Banditbandit]

Just remember that the videos don't lie.

Fuck - I never knew that Lord of the Rings was real !!!

And The Thing .. and Zombie vidoes .. Aaaawwww fuck .. I wish I'd never thougtht of the last one - now I'll worry about the Zombies attacking ... videos never lie you know ..