Failed parent gives boys a kicking. And shit.

[Akzle]

Not sure how many people heard about this.
The story goes, that an off duty senior cunt, was called out to the beach in the middle of the night, where his on duty cunt buddies had found his 14 year old daughter with a couple of boys.
everyone was being passive, but he decided to give them a kick anyway. (not his daughter, though)

now, asides from the abject failure of the "justice" system to do anything about it (500$ to each of the boys and 120$ court costs - 120$ probably only bought their coffee, when normal god fearin folk go to court the costs are much higher)

to me, this seems almost unaccountable violence, kicking someone when they're down, ie. and speaks volumes as his failure as a parent, and also casts grave speculation on him that he is not all lovvy-dovvy at home, giving his daughter a damn good reason to want to get away.

so, i must ask the KB cuntmunity a) if they've been in a similar position and b) what they would, or think they would, do, if e'er they twere...

discuss.

[skippa1]

Not sure how many people heard about this.
The story goes, that an off duty senior cunt, was called out to the beach in the middle of the night, where his on duty cunt buddies had found his 14 year old daughter with a couple of boys.
everyone was being passive, but he decided to give them a kick anyway. (not his daughter, though)

now, asides from the abject failure of the "justice" system to do anything about it (500$ to each of the boys and 120$ court costs - 120$ probably only bought their coffee, when normal god fearin folk go to court the costs are much higher)

to me, this seems almost unaccountable violence, kicking someone when they're down, ie. and speaks volumes as his failure as a parent, and also casts grave speculation on him that he is not all lovvy-dovvy at home, giving his daughter a damn good reason to want to get away.

so, i must ask the KB cuntmunity a) if they've been in a similar position and b) what they would, or think they would, do, if e'er they twere...

discuss.

If you can get away with it, kick em.....the bacon should've been more careful who he kicked em in front of though

[The Reibz]

I had 5 cops show up to my house to arrest me once. 4 Cuntsables and a Sargent. I had a bottle of wiskey in me and was in no mood for police intervention.
Silence is your best weapon against the pigs and I always choose to use it. It frustrates the living hell out of them. They were in my living room for 45 minutes and I didn't say a single word to them, man were they getting furious. One of the cunts started making personal remarks towards me to try and get a reaction but I wasn't buying it. They ended up leaving me alone but took my bottle (churr khhhhuunttttts)

At the end of the day the police are only here for one thing. To arrest people. If you assault one of them you will get the bash at the station and they know they will get away with it. At the end of the day who is the judge going to believe?

[Akzle]

we have enough cop whinging threads.
Btw, punctuate your silence with 'with protest and under duress' and 'i do not consent, gtfo my home'

this is supposed to be a parenting thread...

[mashman]

He's a cop. They are allowed to be hypocrites and have double standards.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Not sure how many people heard about this.
The story goes, that an off duty senior cunt, was called out to the beach in the middle of the night, where his on duty cunt buddies had found his 14 year old daughter with a couple of boys.
everyone was being passive, but he decided to give them a kick anyway. (not his daughter, though)

now, asides from the abject failure of the "justice" system to do anything about it (500$ to each of the boys and 120$ court costs - 120$ probably only bought their coffee, when normal god fearin folk go to court the costs are much higher)

to me, this seems almost unaccountable violence, kicking someone when they're down, ie. and speaks volumes as his failure as a parent, and also casts grave speculation on him that he is not all lovvy-dovvy at home, giving his daughter a damn good reason to want to get away.

so, i must ask the KB cuntmunity a) if they've been in a similar position and b) what they would, or think they would, do, if e'er they twere...

discuss.

I jumped out the window and got away quick :niceone:

[Oscar]

He was dobbed in by the other plods who attended the call.
He has been disciplined and demoted, but is still a cop.
Then the Cops left it to the Crown Prosecutor and the Judge gave him a pass like any number of other first time offenders in a case at the lower end of an assault charge.
The Judge said that convicting him would be out of all proportion to the severity of the crime.

[unstuck]

120$ court costs - 120$ probably only bought their coffee, when normal god fearin folk go to court the costs are much higher)




Only cost me $50 for the offenders levy in court last week, so that fucks your above statement methinks azzy.:bleh:

[Paul in NZ]

I think he had bare feet or jandals or summat - hardly the crime of the century...

[Oscar]

I think he had bare feet or jandals or summat - hardly the crime of the century...

Yup, bare feet - kicked each little shit once.

[Laava]

There is so much detail missing from this story it would be hard to really form an opinion. Was the girl with the boys willingly and was there drugs and alcohol happening? How old were the boys? There is a big difference to the scenario between them being 14 or being 19. Maybe a kick up the arse was appropriate. Men can get very protective of their daughters and if they feel that someone is taking liberties...
Maybe you should have provided a link.
Was one of them you akxzle?

[Akzle]

Was one of them you akxzle?

no. I was at home with my daughters.

Ive yet to meet the cop dumb enough to lay hands on me.

[flyingcrocodile46]

no. I was at home with my daughters.

Ive yet to meet the cop dumb enough to lay hands on me.

Hygiene problems huh!

[tigertim20]

Yup, bare feet - kicked each little shit once.

each little shit?
were they gang fucking her against her will?
holding her at knife point forcing her to drink alcohol?
holding her at gun point making her smoke weed?

bit excessive to come to that response without the other details! she was probably there by her own design. unless they were forcing her to do something, the guy didnt have any right to discipline anyone other than his own kid. Id be getting pretty physical myself if someone else decided to physically discipline my teenage child!

[Laava]

no. I was at home with my daughters.

Ive yet to meet the cop dumb enough to lay hands on me.

Chuck Norris is that you?

[Maha]

Chuck Norris is that you. And Shit?

Fixed that for ya.

[Banditbandit]

so, i must ask the KB cuntmunity a) if they've been in a similar position and b) what they would, or think they would, do, if e'er they twere...

discuss.


I'm not sure - do you have a photograph of the position they were in ???

What would I do ? depends what sort of position I was in .. and whether I was one of the boys or the father ..

[Akzle]

I'm not sure - do you have a photogrpah of the position they were in ???

What would I do ? depends what sort of position I was in .. and whether I was one of the boys or the father ..

apparently kids were sitting on the grass verge.

Wondering as a father

[Paul in NZ]

I'm sure it will all become obvious to you when your kids get to a certain age. Calling this guy a 'failed' parent is a bit bloody rich as there are a hell of a lot of factors at play which will determine which direction your own kids will travel...

For myself - I've done what he did and much much worse. But being insulted and spat at by under aged drop kicks at the early hours when you have had no sleep and been trying to track down a wayward daughter in the early hours will do that to you. I considered it a life lesson for them...

Good luck to you - you will need luck as much as skill in raising a child...

[Mushu]

.....For myself - I've done what he did and much much worse. But being insulted and spat at by under aged drop kicks at the early hours when you have had no sleep and been trying to track down a wayward daughter in the early hours will do that to you. I considered it a life lesson for them...

Having been in the other end of some girls father getting violent for very little reason an argument escalated but the father involved actually started it (but I guarantee his version of events has it as being my fault) perhaps you should have been asking your daughter about the company she keeps rather than attacking some teenage boys that have done nothing but be teenage boys, beating her boyfriends isn't going to change your daughters behavior is it, and it's pretty much the same situation for the cop in the OP.

[duckonin]

Cop or not good on him, he is the lasses father. If I had ever caught a couple of cunts trying to get my daughter drunk at 14 I would of more than kicked the fucken mongrels.:msn-wink:

[Drew]

Without knowing the whole story, it's hard to know what anyone would do.

My daughter would get the first kick in the arse if she was out late at night at 15 though.

[Banditbandit]

Cop or not good on him, he is the lasses father. If I had ever caught a couple of cunts trying to get my daughter drunk at 14 I would of more than kicked the fucken mongrels.:msn-wink:

Where did it say the boys were trying to get her drunk ???

How about the boys' fathers?? What would you do if your son came home and told you that some twat had kicked the shit out of him for talking to a girl ?

[Paul in NZ]

Having been in the other end of some girls father getting violent for very little reason an argument escalated but the father involved actually started it (but I guarantee his version of events has it as being my fault) perhaps you should have been asking your daughter about the company she keeps rather than attacking some teenage boys that have done nothing but be teenage boys, beating her boyfriends isn't going to change your daughters behavior is it, and it's pretty much the same situation for the cop in the OP.

Funny - you don't know me but I'm actually a very reasonable chap. There are people here that know me in real life - probably ask them??? I hardly go into situations swearing and swinging - especially when its 10 to 1. BUT - Sometimes you cannot walk away - especially when your kid has got into a situation that has escalated out of control and they or you are seriously worried for their safety and cannot leave.. Young men and too much alcohol turning up in groups where they shouldnt be? In a couple of cases a moments weakness would have had the whole poxy lot of them down on me like a pack of rabid dogs... Call the cops? Sure but in the time its going to take for them to get there someone could have been seriously injured or worse... Or are you telling me you would just stand there and watch your daughter get assaulted or raped while you went outside and called their parents?

Please don't trot out some crap about you would make sure she never got into that situation because it does happen in the best of regulated circumstances...

I'm not justifing what happened but I'm saying that its very very easy to judge others based on a few lines in a newspaper. Sometimes you need the whole story and end of the day the officer kicked a couple of lads with his bare feet... I'm just saying I've done worse... (for that matter they were all bigger than me - just drunker and dumb...)

On one hand we all moan about slipping standards and how back in my day the cops would give us a kick up the bum and nothing more was said... pfftt...

FWIW other times I've had to ferry drunk teenagers to homes where parents don't care and been abused for bringing them home - taken them to A&E and administered first aid. None of them have been my kids but everyone of them was in serious trouble - they were the same kids I've also got into tussles with... A few of them even thanked me afterwards...

[Banditbandit]

Again, you are escalating the situation into drunk teenagers, pack rape ... I have no doubt that you reacted appropriately in those situatuions you describe, however ... Where did those things crop up in the original narrative?

[Paul in NZ]

Again, you are escalating the situation into drunk teenagers, pack rape ... I have no doubt that you reacted appropriately in those situatuions you describe, however ... Where did those things crop up in the original narrative?

Last post on this - I was there - you were not. Situation was spirally out of control and so I did what I felt I had to do. Others may have acted differently.

Pack rape comment was a question in that would you stand by and do nothing if you see shit like this happening? My comment originally was that I had done much worse - I suppose technically it was assault? Technically I suppose I was also a repeat offender. Comments reflect several different instances but in the pack rape situation it was actually someone elses daughter as I already had mine in tow. A bit of hi jinks and sexy teasing rapidly escalates to scary shit in some circumstances.... She was already in tears and had a ripped top - I suppose you would be happier if I just left the kid there?

Look - every place and time is different. BUT when you are in the middle of a group for hyped up young men hell bent on mayhem and starting in on the racial comments its not the time to act like the good fairy. If you think there was not some fairly robust discussion afterwards you would be wrong...

Some here started slagging off this guy because he was a cop. He kicked two people with his bare feet...

I have done worse - I did what I felt needed to do, its not flash but neither were any of the other options... I hope you never need to make choices like that but sometimes you have to...

[Drew]

some teenage boys that have done nothing but be teenage boys, That's a bit vague chief.

I was a teenage boy, if I was lucky enough to be hanging out with a chick late at night and her dad showed up, you can be damn sure I wouldn't be trying to wind the guy up!

This is getting off track anyway. From the tiny bit of information given by Akzle in the first post, no one can say what they'd do.

If I saw a young girl in tears, with her top ripped and a bunch of louts however, it'd be time to start hoping my size and eye gouging skills were up to the task of helping her.

[Banditbandit]

Last post on this - I was there - you were not. Situation was spirally out of control and so I did what I felt I had to do. Others may have acted differently.

Pack rape comment was a question in that would you stand by and do nothing if you see shit like this happening? My comment originally was that I had done much worse - I suppose technically it was assault? Technically I suppose I was also a repeat offender. Comments reflect several different instances but in the pack rape situation it was actually someone elses daughter as I already had mine in tow. A bit of hi jinks and sexy teasing rapidly escalates to scary shit in some circumstances.... She was already in tears and had a ripped top - I suppose you would be happier if I just left the kid there?

Look - every place and time is different. BUT when you are in the middle of a group for hyped up young men hell bent on mayhem and starting in on the racial comments its not the time to act like the good fairy. If you think there was not some fairly robust discussion afterwards you would be wrong...

Some here started slagging off this guy because he was a cop. He kicked two people with his bare feet...

I have done worse - I did what I felt needed to do, its not flash but neither were any of the other options... I hope you never need to make choices like that but sometimes you have to...

Mate - did you pass comprehension at school ??? I said you probably acted appropriately in the situation you described ...

But you seem to justify this cop kicking teenagers (albeit with his bare feet) because they were teenage boys trying to get his daughter drunk.

All I asked was where did the idea that the teenage boys were trying to get his daughter drunk come from ??? It is not in the original post ...

[Mushu]

Well as you say it's impossible to figure who's to blame with the information available to us in either the case of the OP or in the case as described by Paul. I've been on either side of this, don't have kids but I do have younger sisters and have been in fights because of the bad decisions of one of them, a girl being where she shouldn't be is no reason to assault somebody else involved even if there is language back and forward, there are situations that may require intervention but nothing like that had been mentioned in either the OP or Pauls post that I replied to.
Once rape is involved I support the fathers right to whatever he does to the offender.

[duckonin]

Where did it say the boys were trying to get her drunk ???

How about the boys' fathers?? What would you do if your son came home and told you that some twat had kicked the shit out of him for talking to a girl ?

:eek: Drinking alcohol has a tendency to make idiots drunk, more so those who are under age and are not meant 'TO BE DRINKING'. WHO had the 'SHIT KICKED OUT OF THEM'? A kick to the shin is not having the shit kicked out of fuck ! To the other question you pose. After having been a LAD, I would of told him "he probably deserved" it as most older persons with 14 year old daughters would not go off half cocked without provocation. More to the point, he would not of wanted me to know about it at all.

[Akzle]

Hperhaps you should have been asking your daughter about the company she keeps rather than attacking some teenage boys that have done nothing but be teenage boys, beating her boyfriends isn't going to change your daughters behavior is it
+1

Cop or not good on him, he is the lasses father. If I had ever caught a couple of cunts trying to get my daughter drunk at 14 I would of more than kicked the fucken mongrels.:msn-wink:
who ever said that?
and, tbh, so what if they were?, i drank at 14 (granted, i did the impregnating, rather than the receiving) but evreryone i was with was there by their own consent. yes, children may not make the most enlightened decisions, but no-one was being forced into anything against their will.


My daughter would get the first kick in the arse if she was out late at night at 15 though.
that's what i thought.

you would just stand there and watch your daughter get assaulted or raped

Sometimes you need the whole story and end of the day the officer kicked a couple of lads with his bare feet...
pretty much. which is why i question how you've equated three teenagers, by all accounts passive, detained by police to be drunken louts on a raping mission.




Some here started slagging off this guy because he was a cop. He kicked two people with his bare feet...
i was specifically trying to avoid that.
the failing there lie with the "justice" system. although i do have the belief that cops are cops 24/7, if you choose a lifestyle of policy enforcement, that is what you are. (there's no such thing as an off duty cop) and the fact that kangaroo court did SFA about it... hardly unexpected.

but i was interested in this situ from the perspective of a father with two daughters (myself)
i'm fairly libertarian, ie, i pretty much let them do what they want as long as they're doing no harm. while the threat of my 12 gauge does hang over the heads of any boys who look too closely, i rely on my own kids sense of determination, so i can spend more time drinking beer and playing with my 12 gauge. (not to mention, i live way the fuck away from anywhere, so there's nowhere to 'sneak out' to.

Well as you say it's impossible to figure who's to blame with the information available to us in either the case of the OP or in the case as described by Paul. I've been on either side of this, don't have kids but I do have younger sisters and have been in fights because of the bad decisions of one of them, a girl being where she shouldn't be is no reason to assault somebody else involved even if there is language back and forward, there are situations that may require intervention but nothing like that had been mentioned in either the OP or Pauls post that I replied to.
Once rape is involved I support the fathers right to whatever he does to the offender.
+1

[Fatjim]

Having been in the other end of some girls father getting violent for very little reason an argument escalated but the father involved actually started it (but I guarantee his version of events has it as being my fault) perhaps you should have been asking your daughter about the company she keeps rather than attacking some teenage boys that have done nothing but be teenage boys, beating her boyfriends isn't going to change your daughters behavior is it, and it's pretty much the same situation for the cop in the OP.

If you were doing some shit with my daughter that I didn't approve of, regardless of whether it "was your fault" of not. I'd give you a kicking. I'd make sure you thought twice about doing that shit again, and hopefully your mates would to. Its not right or wrong, just works. and when it comes to your own kids, what works is best. Mind you, you'd already know you were in for a kicking, as I would have warned you to make sure my daughter didn't get into any trouble. Thats the price you would have to pay to earn the right to take my daughter out.

[Akzle]

here's one:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10900944

According to the summary of facts, Wilkie, 51, kicked and swore at the two youths after a group of teens, including his daughter, sneaked out of their homes late one night in April. Two police officers found them in a park with alcohol.
...
Once his daughter was in the car, he crossed to one of the boys sitting on the grass verge and kicked him firmly in the shin with a bare foot. He kicked the next youth in the thigh and demanded his full name, then said: "That's the last time I ever see your f***** face."

He thanked the police officers present, then drove off
...
He wasn't acting in self-defence ... there was no physical provocation or weapons
...

[Fatjim]

In the good old days, a father would get away with that. What a sad place the world has become.

[Akzle]

In the good old days, a father would get away with that. What a sad place the world has become.

what? Assault?
On what grounds?

[Drew]

what? Assault?
On what grounds?On the grounds, that fathers of teenage girls should not be fucked with!

[Akzle]

On the grounds, that fathers of teenage girls should not be fucked with!

i dont want to fuck with YOU. I want to fuck with..//

[Drew]

i dont want to fuck with YOU. I want to fuck with..//...dead hookers?

[Akzle]

...dead hookers?

i was going for a 'your teenage daughter' angle, but thought it was a bit far. Even for Akzke (tm)

[avgas]

You guys are missing the key point here.
Is she hot?

[Drew]

i was going for a 'your teenage daughter' angle, but thought it was a bit far. Even for Akzke (tm)It wasn't lost on me, don't worry.

[Banditbandit]

here's one:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10900944


According to the summary of facts, Wilkie, 51, kicked and swore at the two youths after a group of teens, including his daughter, sneaked out of their homes late one night in April. Two police officers found them in a park with alcohol.
...
Once his daughter was in the car, he crossed to one of the boys sitting on the grass verge and kicked him firmly in the shin with a bare foot. He kicked the next youth in the thigh and demanded his full name, then said: "That's the last time I ever see your f***** face."

He thanked the police officers present, then drove off
...
He wasn't acting in self-defence ... there was no physical provocation or weapons

Thank you - that answers my question. See - it ws not that hard and I was not attacking anyone .. it was a very simle question.

[HenryDorsetCase]

no. I was at home with my daughters.

Ive yet to meet the cop dumb enough to lay hands on me.

that's the thing, it won't be one: in those circumstances it will be two or more. many more. plus you will get a slippering.

[Akzle]

Thank you - that answers my question. See - it ws not that hard and I was not attacking anyone .. it was a very simle question.

i dont even know what your question is

[HenryDorsetCase]

If you were doing some shit with my daughter that I didn't approve of, regardless of whether it "was your fault" of not. I'd give you a kicking. I'd make sure you thought twice about doing that shit again, and hopefully your mates would to. Its not right or wrong, just works. and when it comes to your own kids, what works is best. Mind you, you'd already know you were in for a kicking, as I would have warned you to make sure my daughter didn't get into any trouble. Thats the price you would have to pay to earn the right to take my daughter out.

The dirty bitch snuck out of her house to get it on with these guys. Do none of you remember being teenagers? Fucksakes.

[Akzle]

If you were doing some shit with my daughter that I didn't approve of, regardless of whether it "was your fault" of not. I'd give you a kicking. I'd make sure you thought twice about doing that shit again, and hopefully your mates would to. Its not right or wrong, just works. and when it comes to your own kids, what works is best. Mind you, you'd already know you were in for a kicking, as I would have warned you to make sure my daughter didn't get into any trouble. Thats the price you would have to pay to earn the right to take my daughter out.

if i was doing anything with your daughter it would be teaching her syntax and grammar, she sure aint gunna get it from you!

(and maybe some oral)

[Drew]

if i was doing anything with your daughter it would be teaching her syntax and grammar, she sure aint gunna get it from you!

(and maybe some oral)Pffft, you can do better than that Rob.

All this biting of your tongue, and you'll chew the fucken thing off!

[Laava]

i pretty much let them do what they want as long as they're doing no harm. while the threat of my 12 gauge does hang over the heads of any boys who look too closely,1

I laughed at this tho Rob! You sound exactly like the guy you are posting about.
Troll lol lol!

[HenryDorsetCase]

perhaps the dad was worried about the sexual jihad

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/9199436/Tunisian-girls-caught-up-in-sexual-jihad


I just really like the phrase sexual jihad so needed somewhere to post it.

[scumdog]

He's a cop. They are allowed to be hypocrites and have double standards.

And don't you lot forget it!

(Oh, that and the fact you pay them...)

[Madness]

If you were doing some shit with my daughter that I didn't approve of, regardless of whether it "was your fault" of not. I'd give you a kicking. I'd make sure you thought twice about doing that shit again, and hopefully your mates would to. Its not right or wrong, just works. and when it comes to your own kids, what works is best. Mind you, you'd already know you were in for a kicking, as I would have warned you to make sure my daughter didn't get into any trouble. Thats the price you would have to pay to earn the right to take my daughter out.

No young fella in their right mind is going to hang about while a fat old cunt named Jim works up enough momentum to administer a kicking, they'd simply leg-it.

[scumdog]

I feel you would be more of a failed parent if you had to ask on KB 'what would you do'?:rolleyes:

[unstuck]

I would of at least put my boots on before kicking anyone, and the first one to be kicked would of been the daughter. But then you would still get done for assault if it was your own kid you were kicking. Now if it was me getting kicked and I knew the daughter, I would be making sure I knew where she lived and daddy would be getting his shit fucked with, And I don't mean that literally for all you GHEY Honda riders.:nono: But I would be sneaking around in the night letting his tires down and filling his mower with sand, but then I am not right in the head either.:Punk::Punk:

[Akzle]

but then I am not right in the head either.:Punk::Punk:

must be the drugs. you fucking criminal.

[Banditbandit]

I feel you would be more of a failed parent if you had to ask on KB 'what would you do'?:rolleyes:

asking is one thing ... but I'd be even more concerned if they thought they could get useful answers here ...