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Scuba_Steve
29th September 2013, 13:04
A Senior Sergeant Ron Greatorex, who it seems likes to beat shit outta people.
(http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9222602/Victim-of-officers-beating-wins-compo)
Of-course he's still a patched member, gangs look after their own & NZ's biggest is no exception.

Madness
29th September 2013, 13:09
Byfield demanded to see formal police identification. Greatorex was unable to provide him with any.

Another one that can't follow simple procedures it seems :facepalm:

jim.cox
29th September 2013, 13:12
No mention of him being held accountable, prosecuted for assault or even disciplined.

Blue Gang look after their own, so I aint holding my breath - cunts

unstuck
29th September 2013, 13:56
Cant of been much of a black belt.:eek:

awa355
29th September 2013, 14:20
Cant of been much of a black belt.:eek:

A ' real ' black belt has the words, " Live To Ride " on a big buckle. :facepalm:

Flip
29th September 2013, 17:28
How did such a looser get to be senior sargent?

Mo NZ
29th September 2013, 17:31
He has many lives in the past. Hopefully this will be enough to publicly sack him. He has history of being a cock. NZP should have done it a long time ago. What a disgrace.

Wingnut
29th September 2013, 17:38
"pro ballroom dancer"!!! Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How the fuck can you make a living out of ballroom dancing!!!! JEBUS!!!!

Mo NZ
29th September 2013, 18:21
With rich cougers and the like man.

SMOKEU
29th September 2013, 20:19
"Greatorex was in an unmarked car, and not in uniform, when he flashed his lights to get Byfield to stop his SUV."

If someone was behind you flashing their headlights, would you stop? I certainly wouldn't, unless I had reason to believe beyond reasonable grounds it was a police officer.

FTP.

flyingcrocodile46
29th September 2013, 20:40
"pro ballroom dancer"!!! Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How the fuck can you make a living out of ballroom dancing!!!! JEBUS!!!!
By claiming also to be a proper black belt and charging other aspiring wannabes for dancing lessons.

But Yes! On a more serious note. The continued police community protection and/or aversion to dealing with obvious criminals and bullies amongst their ranks (like Greatox) is the reason why I have less respect for police than I do for the average stranger.

How can they expect respect when they continually fail to demonstrate that they can police themselves. Policing by fear isn't a long term solution and is a bad short term solution. Better to lead by example and have people want to cooperate.

There are good and bad in all walks of life and I know a couple or few police officers that I hold in high regard as outstanding human beings (which is what all cops should aspire to be), but they had a handicap to start with because of the sicko element of gang.

skippa1
29th September 2013, 20:55
"Greatorex was in an unmarked car, and not in uniform, when he flashed his lights to get Byfield to stop his SUV."

If someone was behind you flashing their headlights, would you stop? I certainly wouldn't, unless I had reason to believe beyond reasonable grounds it was a police officer.

FTP.
I'm with you on that

Laava
29th September 2013, 21:09
"Greatorex was in an unmarked car, and not in uniform, when he flashed his lights to get Byfield to stop his SUV."

If someone was behind you flashing their headlights, would you stop? I certainly wouldn't, unless I had reason to believe beyond reasonable grounds it was a police officer.

FTP.

You have read into that, something else.
It did not say headlights and as we all know, unmarked cars still have disco lights.
C,mon guys, put some thought into it.

Akzle
30th September 2013, 05:00
How did such a looser get to be senior sargent?

i think it's part of the job criteria.

Akzle
30th September 2013, 05:07
hahahahhhaaa.

just read it.


it had to be taken to the HIGH COURT.
this has cost this guy a lot of time and money, simply to defend himself against BS charges, while the BS charge-layers have all been getting paid to do it.

twere he to take the bob to task.... bahahahhaha.

no, fuck up y'all. pay tax. the system is good. the government knows what's best. shhhh. shhhh. back to work.


(thoughts and prayers with the poor cunt)

unstuck
30th September 2013, 05:20
Last time I followed someone home and gave them a bit of a slap, I got in quite a bit of trouble. But then maybe the dancing martial artist needed a good kicking too, some people just do.:Punk::Punk:

mashman
30th September 2013, 06:47
Dude was probably trying to take his shoes off.

The Reibz
30th September 2013, 07:26
Dude was probably trying to take his shoes off.

Lol ain't that the truth. Imagine the story if the cop got a hiding though.

Banditbandit
30th September 2013, 08:17
You have read into that, something else.
It did not say headlights and as we all know, unmarked cars still have disco lights.
C,mon guys, put some thought into it.

Yeah . .. that may be true - but also I see guys here driving police cars wearing overalls ... they're the mechanics who repair them ... so there's no gaurantee that anyone driving a cop car is a cop ... flashing lights or not ..

This pig couldn't even provide identification ... (and I say pig becauser this popo is ...)

avgas
30th September 2013, 08:20
Wait! Hang on a minute!

Someone actually has the surname "Greatorex"?

Where the fuck is he from? Cretaceous Period?

imdying
30th September 2013, 09:00
Well I hope you and all your colleagues spit on the piece of shit when you pass him in the corridors Rastus. Or is there more to this story than meets the eye... given he hasn't been locked up himself?

scissorhands
30th September 2013, 11:17
Wait! Hang on a minute!

Someone actually has the surname "Greatorex"?

Where the fuck is he from? Cretaceous Period?

In service of the lord of the land for some time
http://www.winster.org/History/Greatorex/The%20Name%20of%20Greatorex.htm

'The first record of the name is in the Derbyshire Archives in the year AD 1251 as GRET(E)RACHES a small farming .........'

GCSB Thought Police
30th September 2013, 12:17
Yeah . .. that may be true - but also I see guys here driving police cars wearing overalls ... they're the mechanics who repair them ... so there's no gaurantee that anyone driving a cop car is a cop ... flashing lights or not ..

This pig couldn't even provide identification ... (and I say pig becauser this popo is ...)

I am sure, with your record, you do not wish to upset the powers and authorities in our society. Action can still be taken, as there is no statute of limitations in New Zealand.

Geeen
30th September 2013, 14:51
Wait! Hang on a minute!

Someone actually has the surname "Greatorex"?

Where the fuck is he from? Cretaceous Period?

Could be from an Asterix comic......

http://asterixonline.info/wp-content/uploads/characters/romans/Ignoramus.jpg http://asterixonline.info/wp-content/uploads/characters/romans/Crismus-Bonus.jpg

Laava
30th September 2013, 17:40
Yeah . .. that may be true - but also I see guys here driving police cars wearing overalls ... they're the mechanics who repair them ... so there's no gaurantee that anyone driving a cop car is a cop ... flashing lights or not ..

This pig couldn't even provide identification ... (and I say pig becauser this popo is ...)

Not defending the guy, he sounds like a prize cunt, but making the point.
The guys servicing the HP cars up here have the disco lights all bagged up if they are driving them. Not sure what they do with the mufti cars tho of couse.

Gremlin
30th September 2013, 17:54
"Greatorex was in an unmarked car, and not in uniform, when he flashed his lights to get Byfield to stop his SUV."

If someone was behind you flashing their headlights, would you stop? I certainly wouldn't, unless I had reason to believe beyond reasonable grounds it was a police officer.

FTP.
From the article it sounds like he only stopped for a rail crossing arm. Refused to comply at that point, went home, guy followed and then beat him... that was how I read it at least.

Every industry has bad apples that give everyone a bad name. IPCA should be reviewing as the poor victim had to go all the way to High Court plus the years etc.

Mo NZ
30th September 2013, 18:00
IPCA should be reviewing as the poor victim had to go all the way to High Court plus the years etc. :eek:

I agree. I'm sure this matter has had a review before this.
They should hunt the reviewers as well. :niceone:

Akzle
30th September 2013, 20:35
Action can still be taken, as there is no statute of limitatoins in New Zealand.

its in the judicature act you fucking moron.

Madness
30th September 2013, 20:39
hahahahhhaaa.

(thoughts and prayers with the poor cunt)

You're getting soft.

Scuba_Steve
30th September 2013, 20:40
The IPCA is about as independent as Sprite is from Coke, of the very few cases they do accept most get passed onto the cops for investigation anyways making the whole process about as good as going to the cop that did wrong in the 1st place & asking them to prosecute themselves... yep it's a good system we done got

oneofsix
30th September 2013, 21:36
You have read into that, something else.
It did not say headlights and as we all know, unmarked cars still have disco lights.
C,mon guys, put some thought into it.

It didn't say red and blues neither, nor emergency lights. It means what it says, the dick wad only flashed his car lights, as in normal car lights. Stop trying to defend the indefensible, do you work for the IPCA?

Who said the Police have to be able to police themselves first is right. Fear doesn't last long as a control tool, it only take a minority to wake up to the fact there are more citizens than cops and that the cops are no longer their protectors. Just look at what happens at out of control parties now.

Why do the government really want the GCSB bill etc? Look past the maori four side show and look at all the 'normal' people that were only organising legal protests that were also raided. All lines up to stasi tactics and government suppression.


:corn: :blip:

Mushu
30th September 2013, 21:52
Poor guy, has he attempted to level assault charges against the agro pig, I wonder.
How can these pricks expect us to have any faith in them when this type of shit happens with no consequences for this fucking wanker, I'd love to hear if Rastus knows this guy and what his thoughts on the matter are but I notice not a peep from him nor any of the other patched up members who frequent KB.

I'd be running from a prick in a Commodore who can't sufficiently identify himself too but I'm not dumb enough to register my vehicles to the address that I actually reside so I wouldn't have to worry about the angry fucker turning up on my doorstep

scissorhands
30th September 2013, 22:07
Policeman's comment on raped child defies belief

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11132023

Drew
1st October 2013, 04:35
Policeman's comment on raped child defies belief

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11132023I don't know that it defies belief. The wife of the monster asked a specific question, and the cop answered it.

I think he should have added that the rapist getting consent from a ten year old, means absolutely nothing not just because of the charge. But because the child is not capable of understanding.

Rapist should get charged with some form of assault charge, for the emotional and mental scarring too. 10 years is not enough.

jim.cox
1st October 2013, 05:44
I notice not a peep from him nor any of the other patched up members who frequent KB.

That's only to be expected - they are not allowed to comment about their own - its part of the culture.

The actions of that Pig are so irrational, so over the top, that it makes me wonder if he wasn't coming down off some good class A's at the time. I reccon there is a good chance he was pilfering from the evidence lock-up...

Laava
1st October 2013, 06:42
Not defending the guy, he sounds like a prize cunt, but making the point.
The guys servicing the HP cars up here have the disco lights all bagged up if they are driving them. Not sure what they do with the mufti cars tho of couse.


It didn't say red and blues neither, nor emergency lights. It means what it says, the dick wad only flashed his car lights, as in normal car lights. Stop trying to defend the indefensible, do you work for the IPCA?

Who said the Police have to be able to police themselves first is right. Fear doesn't last long as a control tool, it only take a minority to wake up to the fact there are more citizens than cops and that the cops are no longer their protectors. Just look at what happens at out of control parties now.

Why do the government really want the GCSB bill etc? Look past the maori four side show and look at all the 'normal' people that were only organising legal protests that were also raided. All lines up to stasi tactics and government suppression.


:corn: :blip:
I was specifically making the point that it DOESN,T say headlights and that unmarked cars have disco lights concealed. Calm down fella!

scissorhands
1st October 2013, 09:19
Nobody seems to ever know the full story.

Possible scenario: Mr Ballroom scuba instructor likes babe hounding [as my experience of men who dance and dive instructors/ski instructors]and has inappropriately preyed on women many a time. Has used his black belt to deal out beatings under the guise of self defence. Mr Asterix knows this type of scum flies close to the letter of the law, and after slimball does a runner, he snaps and delivers a Karmic beating for all the victims of Mr Ballroom's philandering and fight picking.

PROBABLY NOT TRUE! but you never know the full story!

I think I would stop for a commodore, basically as respect to another motorist who wishes to speak to me

Scuba_Steve
1st October 2013, 09:33
I was specifically making the point that it DOESN,T say headlights and that unmarked cars have disco lights concealed. Calm down fella!

On the "unmarked" thing here's the crunch, everyone go back & read, you'll see it states "unmarked car" NOT unmarked police car meaning in all probable odds it was a standard civilian car & not a disco light wearing undercover car.

Akzle
3rd October 2013, 06:00
maybe kb should have a 'cop bashing' forum. Where we all can call em pigs and link to articles of their failings and complain to the internets how the system doesnt work, and then go about our daily, and vote the system in again.

GCSB Thought Police
3rd October 2013, 09:31
its in the judicature act you fucking moron.

I would be extremely pleased if you could quote the section of the judicature act that establishes a statute of limitation for major crimes or what you might call political crimes

Might I also suggest that you do a Level One Literacy course and learn to use capital letters.

onearmedbandit
3rd October 2013, 09:57
I would be extremely pleased if you could quote the section of the judicature act that establishes a statute of limitation for major crimes or what you might call political crimes

Might I also suggest that you do a Level One Literacy course and learn to use capital letters.

Full stops (aka periods) are useful at the end of a sentence, you know, to establish it is the end of the sentence.

Guess you and Akzle can swap notes in that Literacy course.

GCSB Thought Police
3rd October 2013, 10:03
Might I suggest that it is never a good idea to draw our attention to yourself.

avgas
3rd October 2013, 10:14
Might I suggest that it is never a good idea to draw our attention to yourself.
Attract.
To draw you must have something attached. You didn't noticed him before therefore you were not drawn to him. You were attracted to him.

Also makes you a homo :corn:

Scuba_Steve
3rd October 2013, 10:24
Attract.
To draw you must have something attached. You didn't noticed him before therefore you were not drawn to him. You were attracted to him.

Also makes you a homo :corn:

Altho he maybe correct, KB's probably been watched since well before it was "legal" & now the bandit has taken a little of their attention from the general KB & drawn it closer to himself

Akzle
3rd October 2013, 10:35
I would be extremely pleased if you could quote the section of the judicature act that establishes a statute of limitation for major crimes or what you might call political crimes

Might I also suggest that you do a Level One Literacy course and learn to use capital letters.

might i suggest reading it yourself,
followd closely by sending your daughter and/or wife to my caravan to suck my balls.

GCSB Thought Police
3rd October 2013, 10:36
Attract.
To draw you must have something attached. You didn't noticed him before therefore you were not drawn to him. You were attracted to him.

Also makes you a homo :corn:

Oxford Dictionary - "draw" "cause to move towards" ...

And I am terribly sorry, but homosexuality is still regarded as an activity fraught with potential security risks, so there are no homosexuals working for us (but, of course, I would deny that publically.)


Altho he maybe correct, KB's probably been watched since well before it was "legal" & now the bandit has taken a little of their attention from the general KB & drawn it closer to himself

We have been aware of the person who uses the persona Banditbandit for many years. We did not need to come to this forum to see what he was saying. He has not taken attention off other members of this forum. But we are concerned that he is contacting "like-minded people" as it were, through this forum.

If he attempts to contact you individually we would like to know.

onearmedbandit
3rd October 2013, 11:59
Wasn't even me. Bloody Banditbandit. From 'the' bandit. OG.

oneofsix
3rd October 2013, 12:05
If he attempts to contact you individually we would like to know.

Always knew you guys were slow. Any decent agency would know BEFORE the target of the approach. :killingme
Do you need some help? :nya:

oneofsix
3rd October 2013, 12:16
I was specifically making the point that it DOESN,T say headlights and that unmarked cars have disco lights concealed. Calm down fella!


Love your misquoting. This NOT the comment of yours I quoted;

"Quote Originally Posted by Laava View Post
Not defending the guy, he sounds like a prize cunt, but making the point.
The guys servicing the HP cars up here have the disco lights all bagged up if they are driving them. Not sure what they do with the mufti cars tho of couse."

so why did you link my comment to it? Are you trying to twist stuff.
The article doesn't mention unmarked police car nor emergency lights. Agreed it doesn't specifically say headlights however as it doesn't talk about any type of light that would be the implication. Also they don't flash emergency lights as they don't have a high and low beam so it would more correctly talk about flicking them on not flashing them.

Banditbandit
3rd October 2013, 12:37
We have been aware of the person who uses the persona Banditbandit for many years. We did not need to come to this forum to see what he was saying. He has not taken attention off other members of this forum. But we are concerned that he is contacting "like-minded people" as it were, through this forum.

If he attempts to contact you individually we would like to know.

In the voice of Neil from the Young Ones: "Oh - Scarey"


Wasn't even me. Bloody Banditbandit. From 'the' bandit. OG.

Bwhahaha .. are we vying for the troll's attention?

avgas
3rd October 2013, 12:57
Oxford Dictionary - "draw" "cause to move towards" ...
So to take your definition. Did you move?
If not your were attracted.

Homo.

willytheekid
3rd October 2013, 14:05
On behalf of scummy, Ras, berg & Co...

If you don't like the service the popo's provide?

...then step the fuck up and Join!, see if you can do a better job!...or handle the risks that they do!**

**http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_Zealand_police_officers_killed_in_the_ line_of_duty

Shit, even the police have Dickheads working for them!(Don't we all?)...but to tar them ALL with the same brush? :facepalm::no:

and you lot can all leave Rastus, scummy & berg etc out of it...they have done more for the NZ motorcycle community than all of you combined!! (...and they are fellow senior KBers FFS! - our mates!)


They do a difficult Job to the best of there abilities, under staffed, under paid, and usually out numbered and unarmed!...they risk a hell of alot for there communities...do you lot??


....or would you prefer this approach?
http://db3.stb.s-msn.com/i/B4/C4219D3CB286AFE2AE6A45495EC3.jpg
(Thats the French Gendarmerie!!...and so much as LOOK at these guys the wrong way...and they will fuck you up 7 ways from sunday!..and thats a fact!! -google them..not very nice at all!!)


...Or are our unarmed and friendly popo looking just a wee bit better now?
http://www.intergen.co.nz/Global/Images/CaseStudyImages/NZ%20Police/Nz%20police%20207%20x%20154.jpg
...theres always bad apples in a bunch, but they sure as shit don't taint the whole pie! (mmmm pie! :drool:)



PS...hang in there Gus** :(
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9239335/Police-dog-stabbed-in-Northland-incident

pps...sure as shit wasn't much of a fucking black belt was he! :nya:

Scuba_Steve
3rd October 2013, 15:30
On behalf of scummy, Ras, berg & Co...

If you don't like the service the popo's provide?

...then step the fuck up and Join!, see if you can do a better job!...or handle the risks that they do!**


Don't like what the KKK does, step da fuck up & join them
... doesn't make a whole lotta sense does it



Shit, even the police have Dickheads working for them!(Don't we all?)...but to tar them ALL with the same brush? :facepalm::no:


Biggest problem is the gang mentality, they won't go after their own. In-fact they are punished for even trying; So why I judge the individual on their actions I do count them as a collective & the collective gets tarred with the same brush tho the individual maybe spared



PS...hang in there Gus** :(
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9239335/Police-dog-stabbed-in-Northland-incident


That I can agree with you on, he was a good cop & doesn't deserve what happened.

Akzle
3rd October 2013, 15:39
They do a difficult Job to the best of there abilities, under staffed, under paid, and usually out numbered and unarmed!...they risk a hell of alot for there communities...do you lot??


I risk shitloads for my communities.

The police are some of the best paid 'public servants' (/tui), right after politicians, and with a similar level of accountability.
Afaik, They start on nearly twice the 'average kiwi wage'.
Methinks you troll.

And banditbandit? His names dave, hes from hamilton and he tried to subvert my impeccable national voting personality. Twice.

With hookers and blow.

But i was all liek, 'no, being a blue blood, i like to bum fuck little jew boys with my rich jew buddies, you cant corrupt me with a mere hooker, i kill hookers for lunch, while cruising in my bmw and laughing at poor brown people.'

willytheekid
3rd October 2013, 16:09
Don't like what the KKK does, step da fuck up & join them
... doesn't make a whole lotta sense does it


WHAT!...you mean the movies lied to me!

http://malialitman.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/bad-boys-one.jpg

:p

I hear you about the "look after there own" mate...but to view it from another angle...

I have friends and family in the force, all of which are great people, and your all right...they DO look after there own(Just as we KBers do!:D)...case in point

My Uncle "used" to be in the force, he gave decades!! of service to his community....but all that ended when he volunteered his free time to help with a festival on the west coast (he wasn't even a uniform cop at the time(CIB o sommin), he just offered to help out to ensure the festival could go ahead)
...he walked into a bar and was immediately set upon from behind! by a drunk patron armed with a steel bar stool, he had his skull crushed, and was left in a coma and fighting for his life for weeks!....all "because he was a PIG!" :(

So my family got to witness first hand how the police "look after there own"...they took care of everything for us, visits everyday and continued support when Uncle Al he got back on his feet...it was amazing to see how much of a family they truly were.

My uncle was never able to returned to service after that attack, but he went on to look after Dunedin street kids and youth (youth aid officer)...because he still wanted to serve his community.(Thats the type of bloke he is...and the type that make up a good chunk of the force)

hence, I do tend to get a tad...defensive, when people make judgment calls on the whole force!...they are mostly good people, and will give there lives to protect the community and there work mates...the very LEAST we can do...is support them! (they don't make the rules after all)

But I truly DO understand where your coming from...It does seem that they won't actively go for there own...but like any employer, its a fine line between disciplinary action & dismissal, and a wrongful dismissal Law suit!

...but as I said, they don't like working with dickheads just as much as you an me mate ;), but they do "sort them out" in due time.


And on a good note...Looks like Gus is gonna be fine:niceone:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9239335/Police-dog-stabbed-in-Northland-incident



As always Steve, all the best mate :D

oneofsix
3rd October 2013, 16:33
Yeah Gus is a hero and glad he will be OK. A pity it is so hard to get more of his caliber and get them trained up to the required standard.

The issue isn't with the individuals but the collective mentality and the protectionism that the bad apples get from that collective mentality the and groups around them that are meant to be the checks and balance but instead enable the shit-heads thereby endangering the good guys.

Uncle and Nephew in the force so not totally anti, but I do take issue with authority without proper functioning checks.
Understand what you are saying about the incident that happened to your uncle and hope the coast sorted the drunk as they would have in the past.

Which brings up another point, the police can't do their job without the support of the people, trouble is they think they work for the government forgetting sometimes that is government for the people = they work for the people. Things would often go a lot easier for them if they talked to the people as equals, all be it on guard, the case in question would not have occurred if the dick-head in the blue overalls had just talked to the guy and showed his Id, same as he expected from the guy he bet up.

willytheekid
3rd October 2013, 16:36
I risk shitloads for my communities.

The police are some of the best paid 'public servants' (/tui), right after politicians, and with a similar level of accountability.
Afaik, They start on nearly twice the 'average kiwi wage'.
Methinks you troll.
'

"Pay

Pay for police officers varies depending on their skills and experience.

During training, police officer recruits earn about $35,400 a year (total package $39,300, which includes benefits such as compulsory superannuation).
New graduates start on about $51,800 (total package $58,000, which includes benefits such as superannuation and payment for passing their Physical Competency Test).
With two years' service and on completion of their probationary period, police officers earn about $70,700 (includes benefits such as superannuation and life insurance).
After five years, this increases to about $76,000 (includes benefits such as superannuation and life insurance).

Pay also depends on a police officer's progression through the ranks.

Source: New Zealand Police."

I only make 55k a year to sit at desk, drink free coffee, play with friggin cool tech, and look after the nations IT infrastructure (Im a tech admin...who ironically looks after the popos IT "stuff" lol, and many many other customers)...but I don't get shot at, stabbed, spat at, beaten, abused, forced to work most holidays and treated like shit!!...just for doing my job (unless I break the trans-tasman link lol...again!:Oops:)

They EARN there money!, and no, its NOT enough..for the ultimate price that they may have to pay while serving there community
http://www.3news.co.nz/Police-officers-remember-fallen-comrades/tabid/423/articleID/314952/Default.aspx

Your a bloody smart guy Akzle (Can't fool me hippy!)...you know they have a prick of a job to do, and you know they would even throw themselves off a bridge to save your arse!!
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10911804

And lets not even go into the heartbreaking stuff they see & deal with on a disturbingly regular basis , such as road crashes, beaten children and such:(...there's simply no amount of "money" that will help officers deal with that stuff...and you know it!


...Ride safe mate

Willy

Scuba_Steve
3rd October 2013, 18:03
But I truly DO understand where your coming from...It does seem that they won't actively go for there own...but like any employer, its a fine line between disciplinary action & dismissal, and a wrongful dismissal Law suit!

...but as I said, they don't like working with dickheads just as much as you an me mate ;), but they do "sort them out" in due time.


I would like to see a completely independent department setup with all the powers of the police & courts exclusively for the investigation & prosecution of police, judges, lawyers & politicians answering only to "the people", but we all know thats never going to happen as then they'd all be accountable for their actions. But at the least it'd be nice if the cops not only went after their own but weren't punished for doing so.
Only a little over half the cops feel they could make a complaint against another gang member without fear of reprisal & it's no surprise with headliners like this -
The detective who blew the whistle on his alleged drug-dealing boss was removed from his squad and investigated before senior police took his concerns seriously.

These are the things taking police trust to all time lows, people are fed up with it & as you make mention to the police themselves are fed up with it; even if they want to do good they're constrained by the corruption that stems from the higher ranking in their gang.

Laava
3rd October 2013, 20:45
Not defending the guy, he sounds like a prize cunt.


Stop trying to defend the indefensible, do you work for the IPCA? :


Love your misquoting. This NOT the comment of yours I quoted;

"Quote Originally Posted by Laava View Post
Not defending the guy, he sounds like a prize cunt, but making the point.
The guys servicing the HP cars up here have the disco lights all bagged up if they are driving them. Not sure what they do with the mufti cars tho of couse."

so why did you link my comment to it? Are you trying to twist stuff.
The article doesn't mention unmarked police car nor emergency lights. Agreed it doesn't specifically say headlights however as it doesn't talk about any type of light that would be the implication. Also they don't flash emergency lights as they don't have a high and low beam so it would more correctly talk about flicking them on not flashing them.

You accused me of trying to defend the guy. I quoted myself from a previous post to show that I have no intention of that. Happy now?

scissorhands
3rd October 2013, 21:57
maybe kb should have a 'cop bashing' forum. Where we all can call em pigs and link to articles of their failings and complain to the internets how the system doesnt work, and then go about our daily, and vote the system in again.

But that is part of our daily, take it away and who else can we whinge about?

avgas
3rd October 2013, 23:28
But that is part of our daily, take it away and who else can we whinge about?
- Dole bludgers
- Waving
- Engine types
- World Economics
- Current forms of Govt
- Bike shop hours of operation
- The bible

just off the top of my head.

avgas
3rd October 2013, 23:29
Had another brain spurt
- Batteries
- Music
- Tyres
- Tyre pressures
- Houses

Akzle
4th October 2013, 04:46
- Dole bludgers
- Waving
- Engine types
- World Economics
- Current forms of Govt
- Bike shop hours of operation
- The bible

just off the top of my head.


Had another brain spurt
- Batteries
- Music
- Tyres
- Tyre pressures
- Houses

fuck you're a moaning cunt

Juniper
4th October 2013, 08:34
Hmmmm, good thread. If things don't turn out well with my "issue" with the Blue Gang I may just decide to put it up or go public.

The fuckers have gone through all my good will and patience. And I'm starting to suspect that they are trying to protect their own. Seems I'm getting strung along though.

avgas
4th October 2013, 09:34
fuck you're a moaning cunt
Nah those are just the topics I recall being on here. Probably more I have never seen.
As for being a moaning cunt. They are the best kind. Your significant other must be dissapointed.

Akzle
4th October 2013, 19:35
Hmmmm, good thread. If things don't turn out well with my "issue" with the Blue Gang I may just decide to put it up or go public.

The fuckers have gone through all my good will and patience. And I'm starting to suspect that they are trying to protect their own. Seems I'm getting strung along though.
dont. Send strongly worded letters daily. Theyll fuck you till they can tell you to fuck off, then 'oops, we're not legally obliged to do anything, fuuuuuuck yoooouuu'

As for being a moaning cunt. They are the best kind. Your significant other must be dissapointed.

i dont have one. I just borrow yours. Or grubby's homicidal daughter.

And i dont rate the sex by the womans feelings (if they actually exist), i rate it by how good I feel.

oneofsix
4th October 2013, 20:11
You accused me of trying to defend the guy. I quoted myself from a previous post to show that I have no intention of that. Happy now?

:sherlock: I see your mistake now. I didn't accuse you of defending the 'guy' when I quipped about defending the indefensible, I was referring to the police actions, and that doesn't refer to individuals like Rustus, Berg etc but the collective gang mentality.

scissorhands
4th October 2013, 20:19
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d7/RATMEvilEmpire.jpg

nzspokes
5th October 2013, 06:24
Hmmmm, good thread. If things don't turn out well with my "issue" with the Blue Gang I may just decide to put it up or go public.

The fuckers have gone through all my good will and patience. And I'm starting to suspect that they are trying to protect their own. Seems I'm getting strung along though.

Do the crime, do the time.

nzspokes
5th October 2013, 06:28
Thats the French Gendarmerie!!...and so much as LOOK at these guys the wrong way...and they will fuck you up 7 ways from sunday!..and thats a fact!! -google them..not very nice at all!!

I got questioned by one of them once. Try not to seem nervous when the guy yelling questions at you is holding a machine gun.

Once he realized I wasnt English, just a Kiwi tourist all was good and he asked about the All Blacks.

Juniper
5th October 2013, 07:31
Do the crime, do the time.

Thing is I didn't do any crime.

I'm on of those people that if I get caught doing something I shouldn't have been doing then oh well. Whatever I do e.g. Speeding I do with a knowledge of the law and that I am breaking it.

When I got my speeding ticket years ago I nearly said "is that all" when I got the fine. 14kph over $70.

nzspokes
5th October 2013, 07:33
Thing is I didn't do any crime.



Yup, prison is full of innocent people....:killingme

Juniper
5th October 2013, 07:50
Yup, prison is full of innocent people....:killingme

Haha it's not them against me. It's me against them. I wasent the one that did the crime.

Strongly worded letters nearly every second day because my good will got the better of me and let it go on for so long.

Scuba_Steve
5th October 2013, 08:01
Do the crime, do the time.

What like the senior cop who beat the shit outta someone in the OP?



Yup, prison is full of innocent people....:killingme

Wouldn't it be nice if that was just a joke

jim.cox
5th October 2013, 08:08
Strongly worded letters nearly every second day because my good will got the better of me and let it go on for so long.

I'm no fan of the blood sucking leeches that pass for lawyers in this country.

But they are very good at writing at writing nasty letters and can often get results where the ordinary citizens fail.

Maybe it is worth you talking to one.

Also if you are getting no satisfaction, you could take it up with the IPC, your local MP and with the Minister.