So what do you think is wrong with my bike?

[bosslady]

The answer isn't the person riding it btw. Taking my bike back to the bike store to have it checked tomorrow but curious what yous fullas think it could be. Basically I have noticed over the past couple weeks that my bike felt really wierd when turning, particularly sharp turns into streets etc. This week, especially today it was REALLY bad. Push out on the right hand bar to turn right and the bike leans over way too easily, too quickly and feels like it will drop unless you push out pretty darn hard on the left hand bar to get her back upright again. And when turning left far out, thats worse, feels very stiff and you practically have to shove it to get it to turn, shove might be an exaggerated word but I'm talking about almost run onto the opposite side of the road shit, took me totally by surprise and gave me a bloody fright! Originally I thought maybe it was all in my head and perhaps I was feeling intimidated by my bike, but a friend rode my bike and agreed with the above.

Anyway what's your vote? tyre pressures are fine, I checked them, so did friend. No cables seem to be caught either.

And before you say anything - no I didn't take it to the AA and no, no one messed with my rear brake ;)

[Laava]

Sounds like you are doing the right thing taking it to a bike shop.

[tigertim20]

a bearing perhaps?

[gammaguy]

steering head bearings

[bosslady]

steering head bearings

I wonder if that kind of thing is covered under the warranty? would be pretty pissed, only had the bike not even two months, got it at 5000k and have ridden it fuck all!

[TimeOut]

I wonder if that kind of thing is covered under the warranty? would be pretty pissed, only had the bike not even two months, got it at 5000k and have ridden it fuck all!

Worth a try, but yea bearing

[BigAl]

Like the others have said most probably steering head bearings.

May also be a good idea to check both wheels are in line, I had a brand new Honda many years a go that always leaned one way better than the other.
When checked wheel alignment it was out by a good couple of inches, needless to say shop sorted it.

[bosslady]

Like the others have said most probably steering head bearings.

May also be a good idea to check both wheels are in line, I had a brand new Honda many years a go that always leaned one way better than the other.
When checked wheel alignment it was out by a good couple of inches, needless to say shop sorted it.

how much do bearings usually sting you? I'm not looking forward to riding the bike to the shop this morning.

[nzspokes]

If its only just come on, has to be either head bearings or tyre wear. Neither is a big deal to sort out.

[haydes55]

I was going to say head bearings, but everyone else said that. So to be different I'll say your wheel/wheels are loose, swingarm bearings are shot and your suspension has adjusted itself.

I don't see the issue, you can get your knee down now ;)

[AllanB]

I was thinking wheel alignment - have you adjusted the chain recently? Maybe the rear axle nut or adjusters have moved.

[bosslady]

I was thinking wheel alignment - have you adjusted the chain recently? Maybe the rear axle nut or adjusters have moved.

nope haven't touched it

[nzspokes]

Taken it in yet?

[bosslady]

Taken it in yet?

Yup sure have

[BuzzardNZ]

The answer isn't the person riding it btw.

Glad you clarified that, as that was my first thought.

[BigAl]

Yup sure have

Well......

[bosslady]

Well......

They think it's what everyone has already said but I guess they don't know until they look. I just left the bike there for them to sort out, guess I'll get it back some time next week.

[Grizzo]

Sweet, another Bosslady thread....wait what's it about?:confused:

[Laava]

Sweet, another Bosslady thread....wait what's it about?:confused:

Does it matter? Get yourself on a tangent and go for broke!

[leathel]

you get a heads up from the shop today?

Hope it no biggie :)

[bosslady]

you get a heads up from the shop today?

Hope it no biggie :)
Actually no I did not. I meant to call them and ask when it would be ready but they were closed by the time I realised what time it actually was (6pm). Also I don't want to hassle the guy and text him. I'll call tomorrow...

[Banditbandit]

Hassle him .. if you don't then all the other "urgent" jobs will get done first and you'll keep dropping down the queue .. When I drop a bike off I tell them "I'll pick it up after work" ... and I expect it to be ready ...

[Maha]

Your front tyre is on back to front.

[kiwi cowboy]

Your front tyre is on back to front.

:rolleyes:bullshit; its upside down ya dumbarse:ar15::ar15:

[Banditbandit]

:rolleyes:bullshit; its upside down ya dumbarse:ar15::ar15:

Upside down and back to front are the same thing on a tyre ...

Are you sure it is not inside out ???

[Maha]

:rolleyes:bullshit; its upside down ya dumbarse:ar15::ar15:


Upside down and back to front are the same thing on a tyre ...

Are you sure it is not inside out ???

So it’s conceivable that it could be a simple matter of the atmospheric conditions working against, rather than for, the vulcanised circumference of the front end attachment?

[Banditbandit]

So it’s conceivable that it could be a simple matter of the atmospheric conditions working against, rather than for, the vulcanised circumference of the front end attachment?

That would depend on the ambient temperature, combined with the internal air pressure inside the tyre and the external pressure outside the tyre - i.e. whether it was running a a low pressure climate system or a high pressure climate system.

And then you'd have to factor in the pressure inside the dampers on the front end attachment.

[Drew]

Sounds to me like low tyre pressure.

[Smifffy]

Isn't it a motard? Why is the front wheel on the ground? Hooliganism yeah right.

:lol::lol::lol:

[Maha]

That would depend on the ambient temperature, combined with the internal air pressure inside the tyre and the external pressure outside the tyre - i.e. whether it was running a a low pressure climate system or a high pressure climate system.

And then you'd have to factor in the pressure inside the dampers on the front end attachment.

....and tipping into a corner with that in mind would cause the open plane parabolic curvature formed by those combined additional extremities to adversely affect the synchronous line taken. Simple really.

[Smifffy]

....and tipping into a corner with that in mind would cause the open plane parabolic curvature formed by those combined additional extremities to adversely affect the synchronous line taken. Simple really.

Looks like someone left their lunch at home today and had to eat the office dictionary...

[Banditbandit]

....and tipping into a corner with that in mind would cause the open plane parabolic curvature formed by those combined additional extremities to adversely affect the synchronous line taken. Simple really.

And the actual curvature of the Earth at the point of entry would impact in the frictional contact between the tyre and the road - so a point closer to the equator will produce a tighter turning radius than a point nearer the poles, where there is a lower curvature.

[Smifffy]

And the actual curvature of the Earth at the point of entry would impact in the frictional contact between the tyre and the road - so a point closer to the equator will produce a tighter turning radius than a point nearer the poles, where there is a lower curvature.

Possibly true, however the effect will be far outweighed by other macro forces, given the radius of the curvature of the earth is so large cf the area of contact. Turn in on an oil coated steel plate at the equator and at the poles and see how you get on. In fact temperature is likely to have a greater bearing on the result...

[Mom]

Low tyre pressure, probably caused uneven tyre wear. Front hoops are not too expensive though...

[bosslady]

Hassle him .. if you don't then all the other "urgent" jobs will get done first and you'll keep dropping down the queue .. When I drop a bike off I tell them "I'll pick it up after work" ... and I expect it to be ready ...
I rang them today, they had to get the parts in, fair enough I understand. I will call them again tomorrow to check on the progress. I don't expect them to have every part for every bike sitting around so I'm not fussed if I don't get it back till Friday anyway as long as I can have it for the weekend.


Sounds to me like low tyre pressure.
Nah that was checked by myself and a friend (who actually knows stuff and things). Pressures are / were fine.


Isn't it a motard? Why is the front wheel on the ground? Hooliganism yeah right.

:lol::lol::lol:

I'm sorry... I disappoint...


Low tyre pressure, probably caused uneven tyre wear. Front hoops are not too expensive though...

As above, not low tyre pressure.

It's what everyone else said, the bearings. However I guess I will have a definitive answer if anything else contributed to the issue when I pick the bike up.

[nzspokes]

It's what everyone else said, the bearings. However I guess I will have a definitive answer if anything else contributed to the issue when I pick the bike up.

Cool, at least now you know and its getting sorted.

[bosslady]

Cool, at least now you know and its getting sorted.
Absolutely. It's an awful feeling because at first I thought it was all in my head (as most things tend to be). So it's nice to know that it's not me and there IS something wrong (with the bike, not me).

[BuzzardNZ]

So it's nice to know that it's not me and there IS something wrong (with the bike, not me).

Probably both.

[Laava]

So it’s conceivable that it could be a simple matter of the atmospheric conditions working against, rather than for, the vulcanised circumference of the front end attachment?

Very important to also check that the outer diameter of the tyre is greater than the inner diameter. This is essential for the effective captivation of tyre pressurisation medium.

[Kickaha]

How I miss the good old days when the moderators weren't absolute crap and kept the maintenance forums free of drivel, It's sad to see how the standards have slipped ;)

[nzspokes]

How I miss the good old days when the moderators weren't absolute crap and kept the maintenance forums free of drivel, It's sad to see how the standards have slipped ;)

I would say the days of coming to KB for actual advise on bikes is long gone.

[Drew]

How I miss the good old days when the moderators weren't absolute crap and kept the maintenance forums free of drivel, It's sad to see how the standards have slipped ;)The problem has been diagnosed and indeed, fixed. This thread is fair game now.


I would say the days of coming to KB for actual advise on bikes is long gone.I dunno. From time to time people get lucky.

[Banditbandit]

How I miss the good old days when the moderators weren't absolute crap and kept the maintenance forums free of drivel, It's sad to see how the standards have slipped ;)

Awww ... diddums ... did we make you sad ?? Get mummy to kiss it all better ...

[Madness]

How I miss the good old days when the moderators weren't absolute crap and kept the maintenance forums free of drivel, It's sad to see how the standards have slipped ;)

Bosslady is as entitled to start a thread in the maintenance section as anyone else... :yeah:

[Maha]

How I miss the good old days when the moderators weren't absolute crap and kept the maintenance forums free of drivel, It's sad to see how the standards have slipped ;)

A catastrophic molecular structure collapse of the item in question…resulted in a proton imbalance causing a very slight but resounding restructure of magnificent distortion (aka) the NEDWN effect.
Any dumb arse could have worked that out.

[swbarnett]

A catastrophic molecular structure collapse of the item in question…resulted in a proton imbalance causing a very slight but resounding restructure of magnificent distortion (aka) the NEDWN effect.
Any dumb arse could have worked that out.
So what you're really saying is that they all fell in to a black hole?

[Maha]

So what you're really saying is that they all fell in to a black hole?

...the one that has not been discovered yet.....yes.

[swbarnett]

...the one that has not been discovered yet.....yes.
It may not be strictly correct to say it hasn't been discovered. Those that fell in may have begged to differ as they became invisible dots on the invisible dot that is at the core of every black hole.

[haydes55]

It may not be strictly correct to say it hasn't been discovered. Those that fell in may have begged to differ as they became invisible dots on the invisible dot that is at the core of every black hole.



Stop dividing by zero fool!

[bosslady]

Bearings it was...
It feels like a totally different bike now, I can't believe It!!
All was covered under the three month warranty too.

[nzspokes]

Bearings it was...
It feels like a totally different bike now, I can't believe It!!
All was covered under the three month warranty too.

Sweet, big ride then this weekend?

[nerrrd]

Bearings it was...
It feels like a totally different bike now, I can't believe It!!
All was covered under the three month warranty too.

Two thumbs up, and here they are... :2thumbsup:


Any dumb arse could have worked that out.

Dunno, my arse is quite dumb.

[bosslady]

Sweet, big ride then this weekend?

dunno maybe

[leathel]

dunno maybe

Pink ribbon ride Sunday.... some are heading up to Riverhead to watch some blues bands playing from 2pm... No entry fee, Black Dog well half of the band played at Howick RSA last week and were pretty cool so I want to see them again :D

Sunday the weather is looking OK, not looking to good Saturday :)

[nzspokes]

Wetter the better on Saturday, got a trail ride at Woodhill on Sunday.

[bosslady]

Bike is so much nicer now, it must have been shit from the start but got progressively worse or something. Honestly does feel like a totally different bike, so much so i have to learn how it corners all over again! I used to have to pull the clutch in a tiny bit whike keeping the revs up in 2nd when going around some corners, roundabouts etc. but now it seems i can take corners with just a little bit more speed now, so i dont have to do that anymore, primo!

[Banditbandit]

Cool. Just be careful of the speed - you've already got one ticket this month ...

[bosslady]

Cool. Just be careful of the speed - you've already got one ticket this month ...
Yea yea yea, lol :P

[Tigadee]

Bearings it was...
All was covered under the three month warranty too.

What the hell have you been doing to the poor bike?! :eek5:

:laugh: Lucky it was covered...

[Maha]

What the hell have you been doing to the poor bike?! :eek5:

:laugh: Lucky it was covered...

Almost fucked when bought, but a seller would rarely mention any such fault hoping it would hold out until after the warranty date has expired.

[Smifffy]

Almost fucked when bought, but a seller would rarely mention any such fault hoping it would hold out until after the warranty date has expired.

Probably been thrashed and trashed. Too many wheelies, skids and a shitload of offroad stuff. BL can just keep thrashing it like a hooligan. Yeeehaaa!! :Punk::Punk::Punk::innocent:

[Maha]

Probably been thrashed and trashed. Too many wheelies, skids and a shitload of offroad stuff. BL can just keep thrashing it like a hooligan. Yeeehaaa!! :Punk::Punk::Punk::innocent:

Yip, bound to something else to follow the flogged out bearing.

[nzspokes]

Almost fucked when bought, but a seller would rarely mention any such fault hoping it would hold out until after the warranty date has expired.

Well as you both got bikes at the same place I guess the same rule applies to both.

[Drew]

There is no such thing as an almost fucked bearing. There is inside, and outside the manufactures tolerances.

If there was such a thing as an almost fucked bearing, there's certainly no fucking way to know about it.

[bosslady]

I did my first sort of proper wheelie the other day. But I wont say where cause I might get in trubble.

[Maha]

Well as you both got bikes at the same place I guess the same rule applies to both.

Wrong....difference being mine was brand new, nothing to disclose there.

[Crasherfromwayback]

There is no such thing as an almost fucked bearing. There is inside, and outside the manufactures tolerances.

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No. But you can obviously have one over adjusted that makes it feel fucked...or one too loose that also creates a problem. Can even have one with the odd wee flat spot that is only a prob in a certain range of steering but not in others.

[Drew]

I did my first sort of proper wheelie the other day. But I wont say where cause I might get in trubble.

There is also no such thing, as a "sort of proper wheelie".

If you were trying and the wheel came up, it was a wheelie. If you weren't trying, it was a fuck up due to being caused by your poor control.

[nzspokes]

No. But you can obviously have one over adjusted that makes it feel fucked...or one too loose that also creates a problem. Can even have one with the odd wee flat spot that is only a prob in a certain range of steering but not in others.

I guess one thats been over adjusted will be stuffed pretty quickly I would have thought?

[Crasherfromwayback]

I guess one thats been over adjusted will be stuffed pretty quickly I would have thought?

Not so much of a prob with steering head brgs on a motorsickle. But tapered wheel brgs on a car etc is not so cutey cutey.

[bosslady]

There is also no such thing, as a "sort of proper wheelie".

If you were trying and the wheel came up, it was a wheelie. If you weren't trying, it was a fuck up due to being caused by your poor control.

Ok it was a proper wheelie then.

[Drew]

No. But you can obviously have one over adjusted that makes it feel fucked...or one too loose that also creates a problem. Can even have one with the odd wee flat spot that is only a prob in a certain range of steering but not in others.Over tightened tapered bearings wouldn't pass a warrant, or at least they shouldn't. It's one of the few things that get check on every bike in my experience.


I guess one thats been over adjusted will be stuffed pretty quickly I would have thought?Sure would.


Not so much of a prob with steering head brgs on a motorsickle. But tapered wheel brgs on a car etc is not so cutey cutey.Makes it well bloody hard to ride in a straight line, when they're over tightened like.

[nzspokes]

Ok it was a proper wheelie then.

Good work. Get Drew to teach you how to do long ones next.

[Drew]

Good work. Get Drew to teach you how to do long ones next.My first advice, usually negates the need for any consecutive.

[bosslady]

Good work. Get Drew to teach you how to do long ones next.

Fortunately I dropped her back down straight. Last time i tried to wheelie i only got it like 5cms off the ground, must have been a fair bit higher this time!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Over tightened tapered bearings wouldn't pass a warrant, or at least they shouldn't. It's one of the few things that get check on every bike in my experience.

Sure would.

Makes it well bloody hard to ride in a straight line, when they're over tightened like.

Yeah I'm aware of these things mate. My meaning was....having them over tight on a bike won't cause much damage to the brg it's self as such...unlike over tight wheel brgs in other vehicles. That causes major and sig wear and damage.

[leathel]

Yeah I'm aware of these things mate. My meaning was....having them over tight on a bike won't cause much damage to the brg it's self as such...unlike over tight wheel brgs in other vehicles. That causes major and sig wear and damage.


It wont ever heat like a wheel bearing but it will still bruise the polished face and thus wreck the bearing and give a "notchy" feel


But really who the F*ck cares...its sorted now :)



a reel wheel stand is when you reach balance point and you no longer need full throttle to hold it there IMHO so take it higher until you think it will go over then back the throttle off .... I keep my feet on the foot pegs so the rear brke can be used if you gas it too much when flicking up through the gears :P

[Crasherfromwayback]

It wont ever heat like a wheel bearing but it will still bruise the polished face and thus wreck the bearing and give a "notchy" feel


But really who the F*ck cares...its sorted now :)


I agree with you Bro.

[nerrrd]

I did my first sort of proper wheelie the other day. But I wont say where cause I might get in trubble.

You never forget your first...or so I've heard.

[Drew]

a reel wheel stand is when you reach balance point and you no longer need full throttle to hold it there IMHO so take it higher until you think it will go over then back the throttle off .... I keep my feet on the foot pegs so the rear brke can be used if you gas it too much when flicking up through the gears :P

Spoken by someone who can't do wheelies, or is the greatest in the world at them.

I consider myself neither.

[leathel]

Spoken by someone who can't do wheelies, or is the greatest in the world at them.

I consider myself neither.


?????? why do you say that? I have no problems popping wheel stands but am no expert. After a few off the back wheel stands years ago (XR600) the brake is vital when you are getting it to the top gears.... dont want to go over the back in top gear! I am struggling hitting top gear (and staying on balance) on the DRZ400 ATM

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[bosslady]

I need to practice more. At least I figured out I should only keep two fingers on the clutch so i can drop it quicker / smoother, was harder when I had all four fingers on, i usually use all four when using the clutch. I can only do it from a stand still, no idea how to do it while im rolling. Baby steps?

[leathel]

I need to practice more. At least I figured out I should only keep two fingers on the clutch so i can drop it quicker / smoother, was harder when I had all four fingers on, i usually use all four when using the clutch. I can only do it from a stand still, no idea how to do it while im rolling. Baby steps?

I use the pop the clutch method, in that I let the revs build and dump it while moving (2 finger so you have better control of the bars), I usually pop up in second while going at a slow speed, changing up gears I don't use the clutch just flick it up while not on the gas then gas it when the gear has changed, do it fast enough and its seamless, do it to slow and you loose the balance point, that's were I loose it in the upper gears on the 400 ATM, not enough grunt to get back to balance (on sand anyway due to wheel spin) Not done wheel stands on the road with the 400.... Got good tires and don't want them wrecked on Tarmac

if this works you can her I usually on/off the gas to keep where I want, at the end you her the throttle stay full as I had dropped of balance and in that case I dropped in 4th due to dropping to much on the shift, didn't get much on the cell and even then my daughter had the phone and held it the wrong way hence the narrow footage

http://s222.photobucket.com/user/leathel-one/media/wheelstand.mp4.html

[Drew]

If you're at the balance point, there's no need to change gear.

Hooking the wheel up from a stand still is not the way to do it. Rolling at low speed and use the clutch to get a quick rev spike as you roll the throttle on.

Fourth gear is a bad place to on one wheel. You're getting along pretty quickly and when it goes tits up it hurts a lot.

[leathel]

If you're at the balance point, there's no need to change gear.

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4th/5th gear stands are way more fun...... Not enough grunt to pop it up in those gears... That video was a fail stand as I let it drop changing to 4th, But its the only video of a wheel stand I have ;)

[Crasherfromwayback]

If you're at the balance point, there's no need to change gear.



Fourth gear is a bad place to on one wheel. You're getting along pretty quickly and when it goes tits up it hurts a lot.

Only the upper gears are fun on a dirt bike Bro.

[Bonzo]

Heres some good wheelie how to vids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjotp1ZeWwo&list=TLSpyOZKzhhGAywHFcZQkHHpcVZ2nyKFhr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCF81q7h6Vs

clutch throttle clutch whheeeeeeliiiieeee!! :Punk:

[Drew]

Only the upper gears are fun on a dirt bike Bro.

Fourth gear on a 400SM is pushing 60-80ks. That's about as slow as I can hold the RF if I hoist it in second...which ya have to hoist at around 100 since it's a big unsuited beastie. Picking it up in first I can wobble along at around 30-40 though, and that's much harder and more fun. More time to look around and see how impressed people aren't.

[Maha]

Zed was the wheelie king, well prince really, Death_inc is the crowned king of wheelie'dom. (that I have seen)

[Drew]

Zed was the wheelie king, well prince really, Death_inc is the crowned king of wheelie'dom.Frenchy is pretty handy. Ghost Rider (haven't seen him online for a long long time) is the best I've seen in New Zealand.

I gave up on the stunt bike, when it was time to start dropping the thing every five minutes trying to do circle wheelies.