Len Brown, eh? [Archive] - Page 2

Winston001

29th October 2013, 18:18

1. Men and women in positions of power and influence should not prey on their staff. In employment law that would generally lead to dismissal.

2. Men and women in positions of power and influence must avoid situations which will make them vulnerable to blackmail and corruption.

3. When a breach of these simple rules is discovered, that can be forgiven if the person shows genuine humility and shame.

Mr Brown was on tv a few moments ago and he continued to hold his head up looking into the far distance whilst smiling and making glib comments about moving on. If he has any humility any honest guilt - it is not apparent.

Compare him with Shane Jones who watched a couple of porn tapes on the taxpayer. He fessed up, didn't try to blame or misdirect, looked properly ashamed, and is more respected today than ever.

Bikemad

29th October 2013, 18:35

1. Men and women in positions of power and influence should not prey on their staff. In employment law that would often lead to dismissal. Agree

2. Men and women in positions of power and influence must avoid situations which will make them vulnerable to blackmail and corruption. Agree

3. When a breach of these simple rules is discovered, that can be forgiven if the person shows genuine humility and shame. Disagree

Mr Brown was on tv a few moments ago and he continued to hold his head up looking into the far distance whilst smiling and making glib comments about moving on. If he has any humility any honest guilt - it is not apparent. Agree

Compare him with Shane Jones who watched a couple of porn tapes on the taxpayer. He fessed up, didn't try to blame or misdirect, looked properly ashamed, and is more respected today than ever. Not by me...........have you seen how much that TOSSER has spent on domestic air travel for the last quarter

Robbo

29th October 2013, 18:39

Len does look rather pleased with himself, does'nt he. :2thumbsup

blue rider

29th October 2013, 18:44

Make sure she's not facing you, lick her clean, then get stuck in.

eeewwww why?

http://steelturman.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451bab869e20168e6323459970c-pi

Littleman

29th October 2013, 19:40

It's hard to believe another inadequate white male ends up with an asian chick.

mashman

29th October 2013, 19:54

eeewwww why?

A combination of low standards and, well, I just would :D

Smifffy

29th October 2013, 20:05

Yo Bevan: Any time someone tries to blackmail you, go to the cops. Even if they screw it up (it is the NZ police after all), it is hard to see how your reputation could be any more damaged than it is now. It is also less likely that the greasy Wewege would have been able to sell up and leave the country scot free.

PS Never take a photo you aren't prepared to have made public.

Lots of love

Smifffy

Winston001

29th October 2013, 20:09

Now we know the morals of the people who went public with the story are worse than those of Len Brown ... should these people (The Nats) be allowed to run a city let alone a country?

No. A man has just been sentenced in the Wellington(?) District Court for making the same threats to his ex-girlfriend.

All we can say is that Mr Wewegee is a nasty specimen, politics has nothing to do with it.

But just to consolidate the point, consider Richard Worth. He was a National MP for 10 years, well ensconced in government, one of the old boys and a Minister of the Crown. He sent some naughty texts - didn't even get some nooky - and was fired from the National government Cabinet. Gone. He had to resign as an MP which was an ignominious and shameful end to his career.

FWIW if he'd been Labour Helen Clark wouldn't have given him a pass either.

Brian d marge

29th October 2013, 20:26

It's hard to believe another inadequate white male ends up with an asian chick.
Im very adequate trust me and I wouldnt go a country mile near a kiwi bird
(Where is the cringe smiley when ya need it )
The asian birds i know. . . smoking hot bodys,
off like a rocket in bed and have ya breakfast ready when ya wake up
Mind u if ur taste is more hambeast oriented our liz could see her（its) way clear for one or two more
Stephen

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carbonhed

29th October 2013, 20:56

Im very adequate trust me and I wouldnt go a country mile near a kiwi bird
(Where is the cringe smiley when ya need it )
The asian birds i know. . . smoking hot bodys,
off like a rocket in bed and have ya breakfast ready when ya wake up
Mind u if ur taste is more hambeast oriented our liz could see her（its) way clear for one or two more
Stephen

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You do the 4", 2 Mins, zip up and leave schtick too?

oldrider

29th October 2013, 21:11

It's not "what" he did so much as "how" he did it and how he mingled it into his work place and time and how vulnerable to further corruption he proved himself to be!

Brown is now proven himself to be "vulnerable and subject to corruption and as such is an openly high risk politician", he should stand down!

At the very least he should be judged again (by ballot) by the ratepayers who voted before they knew the truth about his duplicity! :yes:

Berries

29th October 2013, 21:37

Im very adequate trust me and I wouldnt go a country mile near a kiwi bird
(Where is the cringe smiley when ya need it )
The asian birds i know. . . smoking hot bodys,
off like a rocket in bed and have ya breakfast ready when ya wake up
Mind u if ur taste is more hambeast oriented our liz could see her（its) way clear for one or two more
Stephen
How do you wipe your dick on the curtains when they are made of paper?

Brian d marge

30th October 2013, 00:19

You do the 4", 2 Mins, zip up and leave schtick too?

Fk at my age , I really DO get value for money the sily tarts should charge by the hour

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Brian d marge

30th October 2013, 00:45

How do you wipe your dick on the curtains when they are made of paper?

one big tissue

Stephen

MisterD

30th October 2013, 06:45

consider Richard Worth.

To be fair, the reason he got the sack was that he was over-economical with the truth with the PM, and Lyin' Len has no boss to give him the DCM that he deserves.

I guess Brown is more confident with every passing day that the muck his spinners have thrown around about Chaung has been enough to scare off the other women from coming forward.

Paul in NZ

30th October 2013, 07:02

Also - times change and what was not acceptable in one age is more tolerated in another... Openly Gay MP's in the 50's? Erm - no

Banditbandit

30th October 2013, 10:38

Oh fuck off you astroturfing lefty arsehole. There's precisely one elected public official here... that's "family man" Len Brown. One person shagging someone who he's in a position of power over... that's "family man" Len Brown. One person in a position of power writing references for someone who he's fucking... that's "family man" Len Brown. One person who bears the responsibilty for threatening texts to the whistleblowers... and that's "family man" Len Brown. One man in a position of power boning skanks in work time and on council property... and that's "family man" Len Brown.

Smearing the whistleblowers is standard scum practice.

Lefty Len needs the arse card ASAP.

This is not a left/right thing ... if it's about morality then I do not see what the problem is ... Len Brown is not in a position to pass laws affecting our morality so why the hell do his morals matter? If he was passing laws against adultery then I would have a problem with it - but he is not ... nor wil he ever be in that positiona s mayor ...

How does his affair affect his ability to be mayor to do a job - apart from the fact that he's lost a few supprters over this? To be mayor means you only need to be the highest polling candidate - which probably means that less than 50% of the voters actually voted for him ... so what's new?

So he fucked up - he's human ... I'd rather have human beings in positons like that than the scumbag blackmailers trying to oust him ... shagging a woman is natural and human ... shagging an attractive woman who is not your wife is an error .. a human error ... blackmailing other people is despicable ... I'm not blaming wedgwedgie (or whatever) for blowing the whistle at all .. I'm saying that his morals are worse than Brown's morals ... and that reflects badly on Pinocle (or whatever his master's name is and you can tell I don't live in Dorkland) ... do you really wasnt to replace an adulterer with a blackmailer ???

Was Brown in a position of power over her? .. when the affair started it does not seem that way to me ... and mayors do not employ staff - CEOs do ... that's the difference between governance and management ...

2. Men and women in positions of power and influence must avoid situations which will make them vulnerable to blackmail and corruption.

I do not beleive in this day and age that adultery, in and of itself, opens a person up to blackmail ...

Banditbandit

30th October 2013, 10:40

I guess Brown is more confident with every passing day that the muck his spinners have thrown around about Chaung has been enough to scare off the other women from coming forward.

Yeah - he's got bugger all chance of another affair now ...

Paul in NZ

30th October 2013, 10:54

Yeah - he's got bugger all chance of another affair now ...

I think you will find that it will actually enhance his chances. We humans are a sad lot...

MisterD

30th October 2013, 12:39

shagging an attractive woman who is not your wife is an error

Failing to negotiate a discount when you buy a car, is an error. A two year affair is practiced lying and deception...something that Aucklanders expect from Len policy-wise as well.

merv

30th October 2013, 13:18

... shagging an attractive woman who is not your wife is an error .. a human error ...

Would be a double error then shagging an ugly woman ...

Banditbandit

30th October 2013, 13:46

oldrider

30th October 2013, 15:00

So Len was human and pissed off his wife ... what the hell does that have to do with the rest of us ???

Nothing at all ... but it was his mingling of that liaison into and around his duties and accountabilities as Mayor of Auckland City that he fucked up on!

He is answerable to the ratepayers for that and should have "their official backing" to continue, not his own arrogant recommendation to "trust him"!

He has already demonstrated that he is not worthy of their trust ... he should quit until he has that "renewed" vote of confidence now that he has been outed!

That has always been custom and practice under similar circumstances in the past but Len Brown is trying to make his own rules! :facepalm:

Winston001

30th October 2013, 18:15

We have a deep biological drive to spread our genes around as far and as wide as we can ... that is to be human .. coupled with a religuious imperative to monogamy ... that's a human-created demand ...

I will go with being human ... bugger your stupid rules about monogamy ...

Yes and No. Spreading genes is a fundamental drive for all life on the planet no argument.

Monogamy however is not a recent idea introduced by human culture. It dates back at least 500,000 years and is an evolutionary trait because pair bonding is a successful strategy. Why? Being "married" ensures our babies are protected and cared for because they are helpless for much longer than any other animal's offspring. The bond ensures the male is protecting his own genetics.

Monogamy occurs in the animal kingdom - 90% of birds pair bond, some fish, insects, and even a species of worm.

pete376403

30th October 2013, 19:54

, and even a species of worm.

Is that another way of saying politician?

Berries

30th October 2013, 22:22

but it was his mingling of that liaison into and around his duties and accountabilities as Mayor of Auckland City that he fucked up on!
Get your facts right. I am pretty sure that Mingling is her sister and not linked to this at all.

Brian d marge

31st October 2013, 00:12

When u lot haved stopped arguing and len has had his way
Can i have a go

Stephen

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Smifffy

31st October 2013, 06:40

When u lot haved stopped arguing and len has had his way
Can i have a go

Stephen

At being mayor of D'Auckland?

Robbo

31st October 2013, 07:28

At being mayor of D'Auckland?

No, i think he want's to play "hide the sausage" with Bevan Chuang..:niceone:

Banditbandit

31st October 2013, 08:51

Get your facts right. I am pretty sure that Mingling is her sister and not linked to this at all.

:killingme "You must spread etc ..."

oldrider

31st October 2013, 08:59

:killingme "You must spread etc ..."

Plus one on that! :lol:

ac3_snow

31st October 2013, 09:10

We have a deep biological drive to spread our genes around as far and as wide as we can ... that is to be human .. coupled with a religuious imperative to monogamy ... that's a human-created demand ...

I will go with being human ... bugger your stupid rules about monogamy ...

So Len was human and pissed off his wife ... what the hell does that have to do with the rest of us ???

Take it your not married? Cool, completely agree, if your not in a long term relationship or married then hell yeah fuck as much and as many as you can. But not when your married and have taken vows to spend the rest of your life with some one. Religion has nothing to do with it and neither does being human. Saying that its human nature is a cop out that basically he didn't have the balls to live up to the promises he made to his wife.

Banditbandit

31st October 2013, 09:12

Take it your not married? Cool, completely agree, if your not in a long term relationship or married then hell yeah fuck as much and as many as you can. But not when your married and have taken vows to spend the rest of your life with some one. Religion has nothing to do with it and neither does being human. Saying that its human nature is a cop out that basically he didn't have the balls to live up to the promises he made to his wife.

Yeah - I'm married - done it twice now ... so much for "vows to sped the rest of my life ..." (never made that vow anyway)

Human beings are fuck ups - all of us ... that's the nature of human beings ... have you kept ALL of your promises ??? All the promises you ever made during your life?

And you know what promises Len made to his wife do you ???

scott411

31st October 2013, 09:22

ac3_snow

31st October 2013, 09:38

Yeah - I'm married - done it twice now ... so much for "vows to sped the rest of my life ..." (never made that vow anyway)

Human beings are fuck ups - all of us ... that's the nature of human beings ... have you kept ALL of your promises ??? All the promises you ever made during your life?

And you know what promises Len made to his wife do you ???

Oh well good on ya for not giving up! I think more marriages fail then not now days? I am not married, just young, dumb, naive and in love :love:
I haven't kept all my promises, you right doubt there is any one who has. I do disagree with saying that adultery is OK. Yea sure we are humans we fuck up a lot of the time. I don't feel as though that is a situation where, 'whoops sorry' is appropriate.

And I'm not talking in regards to Len brown apologizing to Auckland (let him get on with the job), I am referring to the fact that a husband cheated on his wife. Who knows maybe they have an 'open relationship'

Banditbandit

31st October 2013, 11:40

Oh well good on ya for not giving up! I think more marriages fail then not now days? I am not married, just young, dumb, naive and in love :love:
I haven't kept all my promises, you right doubt there is any one who has. I do disagree with saying that adultery is OK. Yea sure we are humans we fuck up a lot of the time. I don't feel as though that is a situation where, 'whoops sorry' is appropriate.

And I'm not talking in regards to Len brown apologizing to Auckland (let him get on with the job), I am referring to the fact that a husband cheated on his wife. Who knows maybe they have an 'open relationship'

I never said adultery was OK ... I said it was not illegal ... there is a huge difference ... yeah .. I don't think that "whoops, srry" is enough eitehr .. but I do think that it's between him and his wife and not a public matter .. (and flowers is not enough either ...)

I am glad that I can see a softening in your attitude ...

oldrider

31st October 2013, 12:49

And I'm not talking in regards to Len brown apologizing to Auckland (let him get on with the job), I am referring to the fact that a husband cheated on his wife. Who knows maybe they have an 'open relationship'

"The real question is": Does Len Brown have an open relationship with his electors? Apparently not!

Brown has made his peace with his family (fair enough) but he has "told" his electors to forgive him and "he" has arrogantly declared his own authority to continue!

The electors made their choice at the previous election based on incomplete "declared information" he should be judged now on the "full known facts"!

Brown is running rough shod over his electors and dictating the terms of acceptance to his office and to hell with their opinions or desires for his accountability!

So Auckland simply capitulates and surrenders to Browns dictatorial terms for "their" Mayoral office! ... Brown's way or the highway!

Good luck Auckland. :mellow:

Paul in NZ

31st October 2013, 13:51

Maha

31st October 2013, 14:10

I wonder what his Wife will think when he next phones home to say he is 'working late again'.

Zedder

31st October 2013, 14:44

"The real question is": Does Len Brown have an open relationship with his electors? Apparently not!

Brown has made his peace with his family (fair enough) but he has "told" his electors to forgive him and "he" has arrogantly declared his own authority to continue!

The electors made their choice at the previous election based on incomplete "declared information" he should be judged now on the "full known facts"!

Brown is running rough shod over his electors and dictating the terms of acceptance to his office and to hell with their opinions or desires for his accountability!

So Auckland simply capitulates and surrenders to Browns dictatorial terms for "their" Mayoral office! ... Brown's way or the highway!

Good luck Auckland. :mellow:

As written earlier, the official enquiry still has to run its course.

oldrider

31st October 2013, 16:14

I wonder how many bylaws are used to defy 'morals' inside the community? ie council by laws not govt ones...

I see how the mayor cannot lead morality debates on sexual issues but does the council provide any definitions?

Good question actually, every business must have structured governance but as the Super City is a recent establishment there probably isn't any documented trail!

The Mayors position is probably a trail blazing exercise for Brown! :doh: (Rodney Hide? :confused: did you do "your" job properly? :eek: )

Brian d marge

31st October 2013, 16:17

I wonder what his Wife will think when he next phones home to say he is 'working late again'.

I dont know about "Lens '' wife but I Know about mine

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scumdog

31st October 2013, 16:32

oldrider

3rd November 2013, 18:33

Sunday tonight ... Really! ... :doh:

Ender EnZed

4th November 2013, 06:18

Well, at least he wasn't smoking crack. (http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/9356806/Mayor-stands-firm-in-crack-pipe-saga)

oldrider

4th November 2013, 06:49

Well, at least he wasn't smoking crack. (http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/9356806/Mayor-stands-firm-in-crack-pipe-saga)

Wow, certainly trendy!

Same quality, different (that we know of?) theme or habit! :sick: Interesting changes in required/accepted standards of elected officials! :facepalm:

jazfender

4th November 2013, 08:33

Wow, certainly trendy!

Same quality, different (that we know of?) theme or habit! :sick: Interesting changes in required/accepted standards of elected officials! :facepalm:

Barely elected with that turnout.

Does anybody really give a fuck about Mayoralty? All of them from London to Toronto to Auckland are wackjobs, and that's something special to say within the realm of politics.

As far as influence goes, I think at a dinner party Mayors would be at the kiddie table.

carbonhed

4th November 2013, 08:50

Brown gave Chuang reference during the affair.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9357465/Chuang-confirms-mayor-was-referee-during-affair

Tigadee

8th November 2013, 12:50

Awww, but it was only a little violation, if you know what I mean...

HenryDorsetCase

8th November 2013, 12:55

Oh well good on ya for not giving up! I think more marriages fail then not now days? I am not married, just young, dumb, naive and in love :love:
I haven't kept all my promises, you right doubt there is any one who has. I do disagree with saying that adultery is OK. Yea sure we are humans we fuck up a lot of the time. I don't feel as though that is a situation where, 'whoops sorry' is appropriate.

And I'm not talking in regards to Len brown apologizing to Auckland (let him get on with the job), I am referring to the fact that a husband cheated on his wife. Who knows maybe they have an 'open relationship'

I have an open relationship. At least as far as my wallet goes. which is not that far.

oldrider

8th November 2013, 14:07

:tugger: Len Brown? :shutup: ... :thud: ... ( Didn't I do well?)

carbonhed

10th December 2013, 10:57

MisterD

10th December 2013, 12:17

Anybody seen lefty Len?

A mate of mine was involved in the Christmas...ummm..."installation" in Aotea square (bunch of Christmas trees made out of old fizzy pop bottles and stuff), the official opening was last night and sure enough it was Penny Hulse speechifying.

oldrider

10th December 2013, 12:53

Anybody seen lefty Len?

http://www.radiolive.co.nz/AUDIO-RadioLIVEs-Duncan-Garner-on-Auckland-Mayor-Len-Brown---and-the-long-awaited-misconduct-report/tabid/506/articleID/39523/Default.aspx#.UqZJ2eI_qby

Well, it should be Len finally saying, "it's goodbye from me and goodnight from him" but I wouldn't hold your breath. :wait:

( IMHO Brown should "at least" face a fresh election and win a new vote of confidence /or not!)

carbonhed

10th December 2013, 13:57

Apparently he's been working on his "sincere" face. Still got some way to go.

http://i2.wp.com/www.whaleoil.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/brownhonest-630x319.jpg?fit=630%2C319

MisterD

11th December 2013, 13:47

I think that's his "2 minute" face. :sick:

carbonhed

11th December 2013, 13:55

I think that's his "2 minute" face. :sick:

arrrgh fuck... now I've got to cleanse my mind you bastid!

carbonhed

11th December 2013, 16:26

And the death of a thousand cuts rumbles on :-

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/fran-osullivan/news/article.cfm?a_id=13&objectid=11170338

oldrider

13th December 2013, 17:41

Len Brown cleared! ........... Yeah right! .................................... What a joke. :killingme

Knowing what the voters know now, would he still be elected to be "their city leader"? .... It really needs a fresh new vote to prove that!

fridayflash

13th December 2013, 18:32

$9000.00 in hotel room 'upgrades' alone...jeepers!

carbonhed

13th December 2013, 18:51

It's amazing how "pants down Brown" who is opposed to pokies gets $32000 complimentary hotel upgrades and then miraculously supports Sky City. No. Nothing to see here. Let's move right along.

carbonhed

14th December 2013, 13:23

Aaaand the death of a thousand cuts rumbles on... and on...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11172236

oldrider

14th December 2013, 13:54

Humpty Dumpty sat on the wall.
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the Kings horses and all the Kings men.
Couldn't put Humpty together again!

Well Len (Humpty Dumpty) Brown has sure laid that old chestnut to bed for good.

Maybe he thinks that this is what identifies him as a progressive super city Mayor! :laugh:

I wonder how many future mothers will name their precious new born baby sons "Len"? ..... Probably prefer "Adolf". :rofl:

carbonhed

16th December 2013, 11:36

Stuff has a running poll on Lying Len's future. Currently it's sitting on 73% for resignation.

Even left wing commentators are beginning to see the light :-

http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2013/12/unacceptable.html

http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/thinking-my-way-through-the-whole-len-brown-thing/

http://imperatorfish.com/2013/12/16/why-len-must-stay/

http://yournz.org/2013/12/16/brown-criticised-left-right-and-centre/

oldrider

16th December 2013, 12:25

Brown gave his wife a fresh vote after the fact, now he should at least afford Auckland Super City ratepayers the same (equal opportunity) deal!

Go to the ballot box and let the major stakeholders have their say!

Should Len Brown continue as mayor? YES or NO

If he wins ... move on.

If he loses ... he will have to go! ..... Sorted! ..... the whole country can then move on!

Failure to act decisively and this sore will just fester and fester and finally cost a lot more money than a deciding ballot!

carbonhed

16th December 2013, 13:40

I never said adultery was OK ... I said it was not illegal ... there is a huge difference ... yeah .. I don't think that "whoops, srry" is enough eitehr .. but I do think that it's between him and his wife and not a public matter .. (and flowers is not enough either ...)

This post is from the 31st of October and I think it's the last time anybody could muster the energy to defend him. Quite telling IMO.

Banditbandit

16th December 2013, 14:43

This post is from the 31st of October and I think it's the last time anybody could muster the energy to defend him. Quite telling IMO.

Who said I was defending him ???

bluninja

16th December 2013, 16:15

Stuff has a running poll on Lying Len's future. Currently it's sitting on 73% for resignation.

Even left wing commentators are beginning to see the light :-

Well Auckland has Lying Len, and New Plymouth has Len Lye centre. In both places the top brass at the council say we're better off with them and eventually the wasted money will all be forgotten and they will be good for the city in the long run.

oldrider

16th December 2013, 16:43

Well Auckland has Lying Len, and New Plymouth has Len Lye centre. In both places the top brass at the council say we're better off with them and eventually the wasted money will all be forgotten and they will be good for the city in the long run.

Hmmmm some consistency there too, both of them have displayed wobbly phallic apparatuses in and around council property! :shifty:

At least Len Lye kept things seemly! :whistle:

carbonhed

18th December 2013, 06:48

Now even his staunch defender the Herald is burning him :-

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11174068

Ah the smell of napalm in the morning.

oldrider

18th December 2013, 12:27

Holy cow ... I would hate to have Len Brown on my arse for a wart ... there would be no getting rid of it that's for sure! :doctor:

carbonhed

18th December 2013, 21:03

buggerit

18th December 2013, 21:07

I see the media are bored again, I wonder how long their attention span is this time.

Brett

18th December 2013, 22:17

Down with Len, down with Len, down with Len.

Len Brown will let you down, Len Brown will let you down.

pete376403

18th December 2013, 22:36

oldrider

19th December 2013, 08:21

Funny seeing all the old wrinklies protesting Len over the fact that he was able to get a young, reasonably hot chick on the side for a couple of years, when all they have is a distant memory of what sex is. All the noise over the free or upgraded rooms is merely a cover for the fact that they can't have him sacked for doing what they wish they could.

Hang in there, Len. Remember how once they wanted Bill Clintons head on a pike over Monica, a few years down the track and now people say what a great statesman he was.

This post is inconsistent with your average sensible posting.

Do you really believe Bill Clinton was a great statesman?

Do you really think that the Brown thing is only about his romps with the hot chick?

Why do you suppose Brown is not allowed to hold an Auckland city credit card?

Brown has shot his own professional credibility to pieces over a long and consistent period of below par behaviour and it's all caught up with him now!

If he stays on as Mayor he will just become a total laughing stock without credibility and Auckland super city will suffer much the same fate!

He,s now what they call a lame duck mayor, nothing to do with left or right or simply shagging a hot chick, he's poohed the bed too many times. :corn:

Zedder

19th December 2013, 08:28

Down with Len, down with Len, down with Len.

Len Brown will let you down, Len Brown will let you down.

Dont foreget: Pants down Brown, pants down Brown.

Zedder

19th December 2013, 08:31

This post is inconsistent with your average sensible posting.

Do you really believe Bill Clinton was a great statesman?

Do you really think that the Brown thing is only about his romps with the hot chick?

Why do you suppose Brown is not allowed to hold an Auckland city credit card?

Brown has shot his own professional credibility to pieces over a long and consistent period of below par behaviour and it's all caught up with him now!

If he stays on as Mayor he will just become a total laughing stock without credibility and Auckland super city will suffer much the same fate!

He,s now what they call a lame duck mayor, nothing to do with left or right or simply shagging a hot chick, he's poohed the bed too many times. :corn:

That's a good summation. Apparently Lennie will learn his fate today, there's a big council meeting on this morning.

pritch

19th December 2013, 09:15

He still has a supporter! The Standard! The Left wing supporter of all that's good and decent :laugh:

Except Len Brown of course... because he's neither. But he is one of their own.

http://thestandard.org.nz/nz-herald-disgrace-to-democracy/

That's actually amusing in a sad way. The Standard accuses the Herald of being a right wing rag. Whaleoil and the right think the Herald a left wing conspiracy. Is it just possible that the Herald is doing it about right?

Our journalists are not particularly gifted however, Brown accepted more in favours from hotels than some people earn in a year, yet he lives only a short commute away from his office and has a car with driver at his disposal. Sadly for Len I feel there is more bad news to come, but it probably won't come from the Herald.

BuzzardNZ

19th December 2013, 09:43

He looks pretty pleased with himself here...

http://wa1.cdn.therock.net.nz/therock/AM/2013/10/15/27525/Len-Brown-thumb.jpg?quality=70

bluninja

19th December 2013, 10:27

Pleased by his SkyCity upgrade? :)

Robbo

19th December 2013, 11:49

Waiting, Waiting, Waiting.

:laugh:

Winston001

21st December 2013, 00:41

Funny seeing all the old wrinklies protesting Len over the fact that he was able to get a young, reasonably hot chick on the side for a couple of years, when all they have is a distant memory of what sex is. All the noise over the free or upgraded rooms is merely a cover for the fact that they can't have him sacked for doing what they wish they could.

LOL but really Pete?

Sex for any older person is overrated and the people protesting couldn't care less about it. They are simply and powerlessly angry because this rich man has no shame. He will brush aside and fumble any and all criticism just so he can keep his job. No doubt he expects to be reelected after 3 years given the public have short memories.

The problems with Mr Brown are as follows:

1. It is completely wrong both ethically and legally for an older man in a position of authority to prey on council staff. Imagine your daughter/niece etc working under him...

2. The council has already disciplined at least two staff for sexual activities but for some strange reason the mayor is exempt. Has the man no dignity, no shame? He will observe staff being dismissed but he gets a free pass?

3. Mr Brown was untruthful with respect to the extra financial benefits he received as Mayor - he completely failed to disclose them.

4. Mr Brown has not at any point shown true humility. He apologises and says how hard this has been on his family and on himself, but at no point does he raise his head open his heart and apologise to the people of Auckland.

The guy is totally selfcentred.

PrincessBandit

21st December 2013, 17:45

...........
Brown has shot his own professional credibility to pieces over a long and consistent period of below par behaviour and it's all caught up with him now!

If he stays on as Mayor he will just become a total laughing stock without credibility and Auckland super city will suffer much the same fate!

I thought the rest of the country either couldn't be bothered with or hated Auckland already...:(

oldrider

21st December 2013, 18:47

I thought the rest of the country either couldn't be bothered with or hated Auckland already...:(

Like it or not there would be no NZ without Auckland and the Mayor is the face of Auckland ... Len Brown Does not fit that face any more!

If his position is going to have so much effect on the whole country then the whole country should be involved in who is selected to fill it!

America's (USA) president has so much effect on the rest of the world and only American citizens choose who fills that position, is that right?

We (NZ citizens) rely on Aucklanders to make the right choice and in this case I believe Aucklanders have (unwittingly) been duped!

Only Aucklanders can sort the Len Brown fiasco out and so far it appears as though they are going to drop the ball.

Aucklanders should be given the vote to see if they want him to stay or go, only then can they (Aucklanders) be judged fairly! IMHO. :shifty:

Swoop

22nd December 2013, 14:34

...the Mayor is the face of Auckland ... Len Brown Does not fit that face any more!
Well... He is trying to get in touch with his Asian side...
(look at the percentage of Aucklanders who are Asian in the last census statistics)

We (NZ citizens) rely on Aucklanders to make the right choice and in this case I believe Aucklanders have (unwittingly) been duped!
The affair was kept very quiet until after the mayoral election. A re-election would be desirable to either confirm or reject this incumbent idiot's position.

Zedder

22nd December 2013, 16:50

Well... He is trying to get in touch with his Asian side...
(look at the percentage of Aucklanders who are Asian in the last census statistics) The affair was kept very quiet until after the mayoral election. A re-election would be desirable to either confirm or reject this incumbent idiot's position.

I see in the NZ Herald today, anti Len Brown councillor Cameron Brewer has admitted to not declaring a four day Gold Coast junket in 2012.

Who and what's next I wonder?

Robbo

22nd December 2013, 17:32

I see in the NZ Herald today, anti Len Brown councillor Cameron Brewer has admitted to not declaring a four day Gold Coast junket in 2012.

Who and what's next I wonder?

Turns out that Cameron Brewer did actually declare that trip, there was a retraction from the harold later today but no apology with it.
Pants Down Brown's attempt to shift the focus off him was rather premature it seems. He is now just a laughing stock with no credibility and can't be taken seriously. Time for a re-election.

Zedder

22nd December 2013, 17:43

Turns out that Cameron Brewer did actually declare that trip, there was a retraction from the harold later today but no apology with it.
Pants Down Brown's attempt to shift the focus off him was rather premature it seems. He is now just a laughing stock with no credibility and can't be taken seriously. Time for a re-election.

That's weird, I read he declared the 2011 trip but didn't see any retraction though.

Anyway, laughing stock etc is bang on.

Robbo

22nd December 2013, 17:48

That's weird, I read he declared the 2011 trip but didn't see any retraction though.

Anyway, laughing stock etc is bang on.

Yep, both the original news post and the retraction came down rather quickly. I'm guessing some editor got their arse kicked.
There is an article about it on the WhaleOil Blog site also.
http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2013/12/brewers-trip-declared-smear-backfires-brown/

Zedder

22nd December 2013, 18:04

Yep, both the original news post and the retraction came down rather quickly. I'm guessing some editor got their arse kicked.
There is an article about it on the WhaleOil Blog site also.
http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2013/12/brewers-trip-declared-smear-backfires-brown/

What a bloody fiasco!

Swoop

22nd December 2013, 18:16

Yep, both the original news post and the retraction came down rather quickly. I'm guessing some editor got their arse kicked.
Editors? Do NZ media outlets have editors?
Journalistic standards are already low and descending into subterranean.

Robbo

22nd December 2013, 18:27

Editors? Do NZ media outlets have editors?
Journalistic standards are already low and descending into subterranean.

Yep, you're right Swoop, it's almost got to the stage of believing half of what you see and nothing of what you read about.
Especially if it's in the Harold.

Smifffy

3rd January 2014, 21:07

NZ media simply publish any press release and then wait to see if anyone else complains.

Investigative reporting amounts to regurgitating a dead/beaten/arrested kid's facebook statuses or twitter feed.

MisterD

20th February 2014, 08:51

oldrider

20th February 2014, 10:13

Oh, well played Clr Stewart, very well played indeed:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11205861

If he doesn't go, he'll appear to have caved in to pressure and if he does he's now certain to attract protesters.

He won't go voluntarily he will have to be pushed kicking and screaming all the way ... the man has no crediblity left. :tugger: under the desk! :o eeeew!

Banditbandit

20th February 2014, 11:37

MisterD

20th February 2014, 11:40

(From a sauce (deliberate pun) inside the Supercuty ) ...

One of Len's "interpreters" eh? Knowhaddamean?

carbonhed

20th February 2014, 11:53

I hear that in about a month or three Len Brown will go away "for health reasons" .. and then he will resign after a suitable interval ...
(From a sauce (deliberate pun) inside the Supercuty ) ...

(Just recording it here so that if it happens I can go (ngaaangaa .. told ya so)

Fuck I hope he doesn't go before the election. Having a walking lefty corpse stinking up the place is a good reminder for people.

oldrider

20th February 2014, 12:09

I hear that in about a month or three Len Brown will go away "for health reasons" .. and then he will resign after a suitable interval ...
(From a sauce (deliberate pun) inside the Supercuty ) ...

(Just recording it here so that if it happens I can go (ngaaangaa .. told ya so)

Duly noted: I shall salute and celebrate with you ... oh wise one! :drinknsin

Robbo

20th February 2014, 12:19

I hear that in about a month or three Len Brown will go away "for health reasons" .. and then he will resign after a suitable interval ...
(From a sauce (deliberate pun) inside the Supercuty ) ...

(Just recording it here so that if it happens I can go (ngaaangaa .. told ya so)

Go on Bandit, you can reveal your sources safely here on KB with the knowledge it won't go any further. You know you want to.:corn:

Banditbandit

20th February 2014, 13:14

One of Len's "interpreters" eh? Knowhaddamean?

Naaa .. but someone who works for the new supercity ... NOT a Len supporter ...

Go on Bandit, you can reveal your sources safely here on KB with the knowledge it won't go any further. You know you want to.:corn:

Fuck off ..

Winston001

20th February 2014, 20:56

Fuck off ..

Ooooo and you were asked so nicely.

Cmon man, its KB, nobody comes here. You can share. ;)

oldrider

20th February 2014, 21:50

Fuck off ..

Ooooo and you were asked so nicely.

That language doesn't work BB .. people have been saying that to the Labour party and the Greens for years ... they just won't listen! :oi-grr:

Trouble is that just when they started to get the message they rebuilt with all the boat people, Pacific Islanders and Muslim country refugees! :Pokey:

:shit: Shit .. even Jehova witnesses know what it means! :rolleyes:

Berries

20th February 2014, 22:28

If y'all voted for this then you really do deserve him.

Tragic.

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Robbo

21st February 2014, 05:22

Fuck off ..[/QUOTE]

Fuck Off Yourself...

Banditbandit

21st February 2014, 08:29

Ooooo and you were asked so nicely.

Fuck Off Yourself...

Oh sorry .. it's impossible to get tone of voice across here .. I didn't mean it harshly ... hear it with a slightly bored voice, with a slight upward and then a downward inflection ... I didn't mean it as harshly as you both "heard" it ...

Robbo

21st February 2014, 10:48

No problem then Bandit and no offence taken. Cheers:msn-wink:

oldrider

22nd February 2014, 17:29

Len's "anti-fan" club have been busy out in the streets of Auckland today according to TV1 news! Pressure is mounting it seems! :shifty:

98tls

22nd February 2014, 17:40

Len's "anti-fan" club have been busy out in the streets of Auckland today according to TV1 news! Pressure is mounting it seems! :shifty:

Thankfully Len and Auckland seem in another country,long may it stay that way.

oneofsix

22nd February 2014, 17:58

Thankfully Len and Auckland seem in another country,long may it stay that way.

Oh how I wish that were but true, then we could be rid of most of our government politicians too.

98tls

22nd February 2014, 18:01

Oh how I wish that were but true, then we could be rid of most of our government politicians too.

Yep indeed,most of em are a fucking embarrassment.

haydes55

22nd February 2014, 18:12

98tls

22nd February 2014, 18:23

oldrider

22nd February 2014, 19:00

Protesters: "Len Brown must stand down!"
Reporter "Why?"
Protester "Because he had sex with a girl who wasn't his wife and he got free stuff from a company because he's a mayor"

Get over it, no ones perfect. It hasn't effected his job except for having to taking time away from mayoral duties to apologise to the public for something that doesn't effect them.

Would you give a shit if half way through designing your house you find out the architect you hired is staying for free at a motel he designed and cheats on his wife?

It's not just that simple, if it was, no problem, he carried it over into his work place, violated his work environment and broke rules and confidences of comparitive work practices!

His saving grace is that in their hurry to establish the position of the "super city mayoralty office" position they overlooked establishing rules of practice for the position etc!

It's a new position and such behaviour was unexpected and unaccounted for! :o Embarrasment all round ... vantage pants down Brown! :tugger:

Len knows this and is determined to stay put and take the money ... many Dorklanders couldn't care less but eventually the majority (I believe) will not let it rest until Len has gone!

It's a massive poker game and so far Len has not blinked but the opposition to him appears to be growing becoming more and more vocal!

It might make an interesting office sweep, along the lines of the Melbourne Cup! :shifty: My money is on Auckland Super City but I'm not holding my breath! :wait:

oneofsix

22nd February 2014, 20:06

It's not just that simple, if it was, no problem, he carried it over into his work place, violated his work environment and broke rules and confidences of comparitive work practices!

nah it is that simple. He is a politician so a lying shit, power is an afro... (oh stuff it,)a turn on, so he gets his end away and some hotels give him an upgrade due to repeat business (not because he is the mayor, I've even had these repeat business upgrades). Get the F over it and let the rest of us get on with caring about thing that really affect us, like water metering until the numbers are high enough to make it economic for one of the big three to take it over, your morning cupa bought to you by Coke anyone?

oldrider

22nd February 2014, 21:28

nah it is that simple. He is a politician so a lying shit, power is an afro... (oh stuff it,)a turn on, so he gets his end away and some hotels give him an upgrade due to repeat business (not because he is the mayor, I've even had these repeat business upgrades). Get the F over it and let the rest of us get on with caring about thing that really affect us, like water metering until the numbers are high enough to make it economic for one of the big three to take it over, your morning cupa bought to you by Coke anyone?

So many men so many opinions all will be revealed in the end! I didn't know there was a Kapiti in the Auckland super city area! :confused:

Madmax

23rd February 2014, 19:28

Len's "anti-fan" club have been busy out in the streets of Auckland today according to TV1 news! Pressure is mounting it seems! :shifty:

100 what a joke
You would get more people on a decent ride

:blink::blink:

Winston001

23rd February 2014, 19:35

Get over it, no ones perfect. It hasn't effected his job except for having to taking time away from mayoral duties to apologise to the public for something that doesn't effect them.

Would you give a shit if half way through designing your house you find out the architect you hired is staying for free at a motel he designed and cheats on his wife?

The architect isn't paid from the public purse. And if the other woman was a naive young employee - yes I would care.

1. With Len Brown we have a mature man who is in a position of authority and influence, a man who is popular and moves in circles of power.

2. On the other hand we have a young Chinese immigrant. Her culture tells her older men are to be respected and listened to. The Mayor of the city flatters her, flirts, calls her regularly, declares passion for her. Just imagine the opportunities and dreams she would have of where this might lead.

3. Miss Chuang was employed in and around council organisations. Older men preying on young women employees is wrong - and unlawful in employment situations. Its an abuse of power.

4. In conducting this affair Len Brown opened himself to being blackmailed and becoming corrupt. That is not an acceptable risk to the public.

5. There are cases of Auckland council staff engaging in sexual relations at work and facing dismissal. But strangely the Mayor who is at the very top of the Council doesn't face the same rules. Where is the fairness in that?

oldrider

24th February 2014, 08:52

Good call Winston but I think there is naivety in both parties and they were both preying on each other at the taxpayer/ratepayer's expense!

Fortunately (for Auckland) they exposed each other! ... Unfortunately "Auckland Super City" is too naive to recognise their opportunity to escape!

None so blind as those that will not see! :oi-grr:

oldrider

27th March 2014, 12:40

Bump ... Hey don't forget Auckland has still got Len Brown and now the rest of us are going to have Dot.Com! ... Is it open season for fuckwits in NZ? :facepalm:

Banditbandit

27th March 2014, 15:10

It's not just that simple, if it was, no problem, he carried it over into his work place, violated his work environment and broke rules and confidences of comparitive work practices!

His saving grace is that in their hurry to establish the position of the "super city mayoralty office" position they overlooked establishing rules of practice for the position etc!

I'xve seen this sort of thing in action - it's dangerous . the Council CEO reports to the council, chaired by te4h mayor .. ONLY the electors/voters can hold the mayor accountable .. If you have such rules who oversees and enforces them? The CEO ??? Who is responsible to the mayor, not the other way around.

I have seen employed staff use this situation, where there are "rules" for elected officials, to meddle in politics. NEVER a good idea.

5. There are cases of Auckland council staff engaging in sexual relations at work and facing dismissal. But strangely the Mayor who is at the very top of the Council doesn't face the same rules. Where is the fairness in that?

They are employed - not elected .. should we then apply the same thing to MPs? Everyone who gets caught in bed with the wrong people must resign? (We'd have bugger all left two months after an election ...) The fact that he is at the top suggests it - if he is at the top who holds him to account? Only the voters .. and 100 turned out (only 100) to protest ...

Quasievil

27th March 2014, 15:33

Len Brown is Corrupt (including Morally) end of story get rid of the prick.

Scouse

27th March 2014, 16:11

Len Brown is Corrupt (including Morally) end of story get rid of the prick.this unusual but I find myself agreeing with you totally on this

oldrider

27th March 2014, 16:22

I'xve seen this sort of thing in action - it's dangerous . the Council CEO reports to the council, chaired by te4h mayor .. ONLY the electors/voters can hold the mayor accountable .. If you have such rules who oversees and enforces them? The CEO ??? Who is responsible to the mayor, not the other way around.

I have seen employed staff use this situation, where there are "rules" for elected officials, to meddle in politics. NEVER a good idea.

They are employed - not elected .. should we then apply the same thing to MPs? Everyone who gets caught in bed with the wrong people must resign? (We'd have bugger all left two months after an election ...) The fact that he is at the top suggests it - if he is at the top who holds him to account? Only the voters .. and 100 turned out (only 100) to protest ...

Don't dissagree with you that much but Brown didn't simply have an affair in his private life, he intermingled it within his office as Mayor!

As such he should have been held accountable to his voters but that never happened and won't untill the next election!

Brown should have gone to the polls again to get a renewed vote of confidence (or not) but he conned the Auckland electorate by making his own rules!

I don't believe "sorry" cuts it and niether do a lot of Auckland electors ... he should have gone back to the people, that has been custom and practice in the past!

He was obviously afraid to do that and claimed "Trust me" and Auckland let him get away with it! FFS! :rolleyes:

If he had faced the people and won it would all be past him and his Mayoralty would be on a sound footing, now he will be presumed second rate forever! :sick: